This is the moment I realized choosing dark Urge was an excellent choice. The moment you realize you've entered a place in which literally everybody knows you but don't tell, and you struggle trying to understand why.
I love how it starts in act 1 that "haha you are some murderous psychopath" which transforms by act 2&3 with *EVERY* bad guy knowing exactly who you are and either quakes in their boots or will do everything to put you down.
Normal PC: "That dude took that chop to the neck like it was nothing... how do I beat someone like that?" Dark Urge: "Ooo! He healed so fast from those attacks! I could torture him all day and seven bloody days a week, wonderful!"
The move is to tell the goblins to stop breathing, I never felt so powerful in this game as I did in that moment. The power to command someone to not even choke themselves. To stop breathing until they die is insane
Like you have enough control over them that you’re commanding their their unconscious mind. Like they obey even while unconscious. Otherwise you’d have only knocked them out
Ironic, or perhaps poetic, that Ketheric says The Dark Urge should take whatever pleasure he could in this diminished state. Because this is the only time, if I recall correctly, Ketheric smiled, or smirked.
Definitely gives me KOTOR I vibes too. Spoilers like with Revan having lost his memories and having to decide whether to redeem himself or keep going down the Dark path.
Despite playing through this game and getting to this scene like a dozen times, I never realised the goblin that attacks didn't show any signs of being under the Absolutes control. Little details like that are why I love this game. Giving a little story to a character you never get to interact with shows how much love they put into the game
He's been fighting wars for more than a 100 years. At least 100 of those years he was immortal. Im sure he's bored of getting stabbed / slashes / mauled by now.
do a non-lethal takedown, take a long rest and she will be replaced by a female dragonborn named Quill. Just make sure that the scene triggers first, if any other interaction happens(Wyll getting transformed,Astarion biting you,etc) then you need to reload the safe and let that interaction happen before knocking her out.
@@cooperblackwell1392You would lose out on so many damn companions too. Really, I don't think you can have more than like 2 companions by the end of the game at your side if you never resist the urge.
Everyone talking about whether resiting or embracing Dark Urge is best. The fools, I find it more interesting to start off resisting, but slowly start to embrace it until eventually he’s back to his old self more or less and takes his place back
Or the reverse, where you initially give in but over time you learn to resist and overcome the worst parts of your nature, with a fair deal of encouragement from your companions
@@nathanfivecoate5848 This is why I think the "camp murder" is narrativley important. You can't be a durge that, trough save scumming or luck, resisted their urge every time. At the very least there was this one time you gave in. I did my normal good tav run. Next run is definitely gonna be "give into the dark urge slowly". Also wanna do a "resist the urge without save scumming the checks" run
Three friends and I went into BG3 blind, and I picked Dark Urge FighterLock. We, very obviously, noticed thimgs being very odd/wrong with my character (Alfira was a private cutscene so no one 'knew' what happened) but when we walked into the throne room... Ho boy. We all went silent as we realised that my character KNOWS one of the BBEGs.
I'd really love to know the piece of music that plays during the scene when the goblin attacks Ketheric, like what piece in the OST x) It's expertly timed.
How strange... I had NONE of this dialogue when my Dark Urge went to Moonrise! It was the exact same. Ketheric told me to kill the goblins, so I did, but there was no indication that he knew me or anything of this level! I stayed silent, but Ketheric addressed me like a total stranger. "Our guest should decide their fate" and all that. Bummer that I missed this! But at least I know it now, I guess. Tonight I delve into Thorm Mausoleum.
Same here! I just did it today and it played this dialogue ones but glitched out so I reloaded to fix the glitch. Only it never played this dialogue again, after reloading multiple times. It only played the generic scene. It's like it forgot I was a Dark Urge once it reloaded. The Warden knew me though, later on.
Same, maybe a bug. Some other scene that should appear because I'm surge doesn't happen, only some of it, I don't know why. Maybe because I changed my appearance?
@@ghiffaribara2949I think that makes a lot of sense actually. They should only be able to recall your former appearance, not what form you take in this new life, at least until they look into your tadpole. It's probably a bug but lorewise it does make sense.
@@evrimenustun9548 I walked in under Disguise Self, so naturally they didn't recognize me. Seems intentional that they only recognize your original appearance.
My favorite way to kill them is by telling them to just stop breathing. It's metal as hell since they're literally incapable of resisting your commands.
huh... i played dark urge and got none of this. Just the normal dialogue choices. Feels like a bug then? Kind of lame as this is really cool. I was never referred to in act 2 like people knew me.
I tried all of the options and it didn't trigger for me. It actually did trigger at first but the scene glitched and I reloaded. After that it never triggered again. I hope it doesn't mess anything else up.@@sectcamp
@@TheRealUFOsAreDemonic yeah I think mine was bugged. I am the DU and I definitely did not get this response. Oh well, I’ve already started a second playthrough as durge and hopefully it will work this time!
it makes no sense, if he knows me, why did he send me to find balthazar and secure the nightsong? if everyone knows me, why do they give me so much shit and attitude?
@@jsmith434w The game is unfortunately buggy and certain scenes that should have triggered have not been. It may have been the case with your play through that the game bugged out and you didn't get the scene shown here.
@a1374034 Spoiler Its due to Orin telling everyone she fucked you up mentally so bad you're either dead (which you are in non durge playthrough) or basically a new willing slave since the chosen do not have worms in them. To have one is to become subjegated to their command and will. You're "disgraced" the same way Minthara is if left alive, where they erase your personality and being via the worm.
Fair warning, using shape shift of any kind will prevent any and all Durge events from playing out. Just had to watch this after I realized I missed it... Wondering what else I missed at the end of act 1...
Do u mean shape shifitng at this particular interavtion or jist shape shifting in general? Cause i have in act 1 but i only got part of this interaction.
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This is the moment I realized choosing dark Urge was an excellent choice. The moment you realize you've entered a place in which literally everybody knows you but don't tell, and you struggle trying to understand why.
Thorm find it amusing every one else is scare shitless.
@@ufuk5872the dark urge must of done some fucked up shit there b4
I love how it starts in act 1 that "haha you are some murderous psychopath" which transforms by act 2&3 with *EVERY* bad guy knowing exactly who you are and either quakes in their boots or will do everything to put you down.
At my first playthrough i though i will be forced to make an evil decisions. And it turned out that you can have a good playthrough with it.
Resist Dark Urge that saves Minthara is best
He knows you and he wants you to get pictures of Spider-Man!
Or he thinks YOU are Spider-man!
Its the same voice actor of JJJ?
@@CaueJulio Absolutely, I blew my mind trying to realize who this is
"Get me more paintings of Drider-Man!"
@@silverblade357 I killed the Drider, what do I get?
3:15 The way the camera tilts is so unsettling. Perfect.
Normal PC: "That dude took that chop to the neck like it was nothing... how do I beat someone like that?"
Dark Urge: "Ooo! He healed so fast from those attacks! I could torture him all day and seven bloody days a week, wonderful!"
What's a week and why's there only 7 days in it?
There's ten days in a tenday, and that sounds like a much better time for murder and mayhem
The move is to tell the goblins to stop breathing, I never felt so powerful in this game as I did in that moment. The power to command someone to not even choke themselves. To stop breathing until they die is insane
Like you have enough control over them that you’re commanding their their unconscious mind. Like they obey even while unconscious. Otherwise you’d have only knocked them out
Oh boy, I feel like you gonna villain if you are in the game, just the way you talk, I can feel it.
Ironic, or perhaps poetic, that Ketheric says The Dark Urge should take whatever pleasure he could in this diminished state.
Because this is the only time, if I recall correctly, Ketheric smiled, or smirked.
dark urge lore is insane
You and Gortash were the mastermind behind this whole Absolute plan,
You can chose to finish what you started, or seek redemption like Total Recall
@@cyberdoge1857 This plot reminded me of something and I couldn't remember. It was Total mfing Recall.
@@cyberdoge1857 I know right, it was a 2 man heist, and Raphael doesn't have any idea who Gortash worked with for that. It's crazy, if only he knew.
@@cyberdoge1857 Not Gortash, its just you who is the mastermind behind it.
Definitely gives me KOTOR I vibes too. Spoilers like with Revan having lost his memories and having to decide whether to redeem himself or keep going down the Dark path.
What the hell, I got none of this dialogue as Durge.
I love how Ketheric looks like he doesnt know what to say
HUH. I didn't get the first half of this. I stayed silent and only later realized "wait... Wait a minute I'm connected to Moonrise!"
Yeah I think you have to say something for that first half of dialogue to trigger
Same thing happened to me. He never ended up acknowledging me, though other characters did.
is very awesome when he says, "try again"
Despite playing through this game and getting to this scene like a dozen times, I never realised the goblin that attacks didn't show any signs of being under the Absolutes control. Little details like that are why I love this game. Giving a little story to a character you never get to interact with shows how much love they put into the game
I didnt get this in my dark urge play through apparently...
This scene really gave me a sense of how strong goblins really are. No wonder people in this world find them formidable.
I wonder if that shit hurts or not when he be getting stabbed because it's not like his ass is impenetrable just heal quickly
of course he feels the pain. he's immortal tho, so he just got used to it
@@PoppyGaming43 I'm surprised he's just completely unphased by it tho bro literally tears a halberd out of his chest
@@Kringerel like i said, he got used to it
@@KringerelI believe you see him grunting though, when he pulls it out.
He's just a bad motherfucker
He's been fighting wars for more than a 100 years. At least 100 of those years he was immortal. Im sure he's bored of getting stabbed / slashes / mauled by now.
Omni man don’t fuck around.
WTF I walked in and IMMEDIATELY he told everyone to kill me??
The gobbo was not on his tempo.
I just got them and im dying to know if its explained later how the hell this dude knows us?
it absolutely is 👀 keep playing!
i dont get this cutscene, maybe because minthara was still alive for me? but he doesn't say anything to me to act like he knows me
@@arc_1704 was it as Dark Urge? I think a lot of this is Urge specific.
@@sectcamp yeah
evil dark urge specifically
Hm... I didn't get this dialogue option...?
playing dark urge with a trainer that allows me to never fail a dice roll so I can resist every single urge.
Sucks that Alfira still dies tho :(
do a non-lethal takedown, take a long rest and she will be replaced by a female dragonborn named Quill. Just make sure that the scene triggers first, if any other interaction happens(Wyll getting transformed,Astarion biting you,etc) then you need to reload the safe and let that interaction happen before knocking her out.
@@sspilexquill dies tho haha
@@RJTheCerealGuy yeah but fuck quill.
@@RJTheCerealGuyYeah but fuck Quill
narrator: "hells, they all know you. Even the dog knows you."
me, who didn't listen at all at the fact that I'm known: "there's a dog!?"
Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah something something dog blah blah blah
An undead dog at that
So glad J.k simmons is getting these evil roles, he's so good at that quiet confident malicious tone, it's so good
No wonder he sounded so familiar!
Is he using a British accent or just his normal voice?
exactly, like the US president
“Think Urge, think!”
That back and forth looking reminding me of the sound "He looked at me. And I looked at him." 😂
just finished my first playthrough. Im so glad i went as a "resist the Urge" character, cant imagine any other approach top this experience
I did it as a cleric/paladin of Kelmvor. It just felt so satisfying narratively as the perfect background combo for a defiant dark Urge.
Trust me. Embracing it is fun too. Just pure unhinged evil
I agree, the dark urge “I’m going to surrender to the urge constantly seems so boring . And against what the origin characters backstory even suggests
Nah I’d prefer in bhaal’s name
@@cooperblackwell1392You would lose out on so many damn companions too. Really, I don't think you can have more than like 2 companions by the end of the game at your side if you never resist the urge.
Everyone talking about whether resiting or embracing Dark Urge is best. The fools, I find it more interesting to start off resisting, but slowly start to embrace it until eventually he’s back to his old self more or less and takes his place back
Or the reverse, where you initially give in but over time you learn to resist and overcome the worst parts of your nature, with a fair deal of encouragement from your companions
@@nathanfivecoate5848 This is why I think the "camp murder" is narrativley important. You can't be a durge that, trough save scumming or luck, resisted their urge every time. At the very least there was this one time you gave in.
I did my normal good tav run. Next run is definitely gonna be "give into the dark urge slowly". Also wanna do a "resist the urge without save scumming the checks" run
@@Vinxian1 Karlach and Shadowheart I can see easily being important characters for a durge on the road to resisting and overcoming their urges
You'd think Kethric would either be happy you could replace Orin again or annoyed that there is a bhaalspawn walking around his area.
Three friends and I went into BG3 blind, and I picked Dark Urge FighterLock. We, very obviously, noticed thimgs being very odd/wrong with my character (Alfira was a private cutscene so no one 'knew' what happened) but when we walked into the throne room... Ho boy. We all went silent as we realised that my character KNOWS one of the BBEGs.
Astarion is so good to play with dark urge haha
Never before have I felt a shiver down my spine when someone tells me to “Try again”
3:00 The moment Throrm became Omniman
He suddenly convinced me to get state farm insurance and pictures of spiderman.
I'm sad I couldn't save the Gobbo that threw the halberd.
Because that was skillful empalement.
*Try Again* Always makes that shiver run down your spine.
I'd really love to know the piece of music that plays during the scene when the goblin attacks Ketheric, like what piece in the OST x) It's expertly timed.
How strange... I had NONE of this dialogue when my Dark Urge went to Moonrise! It was the exact same. Ketheric told me to kill the goblins, so I did, but there was no indication that he knew me or anything of this level!
I stayed silent, but Ketheric addressed me like a total stranger. "Our guest should decide their fate" and all that. Bummer that I missed this! But at least I know it now, I guess. Tonight I delve into Thorm Mausoleum.
Same here! I just did it today and it played this dialogue ones but glitched out so I reloaded to fix the glitch. Only it never played this dialogue again, after reloading multiple times. It only played the generic scene. It's like it forgot I was a Dark Urge once it reloaded. The Warden knew me though, later on.
I think Hear hear is what the dark urge would say and it spook ketheric for a momment, the silence ease him knowing that you can't remember anything.
Same, maybe a bug. Some other scene that should appear because I'm surge doesn't happen, only some of it, I don't know why. Maybe because I changed my appearance?
@@ghiffaribara2949I think that makes a lot of sense actually. They should only be able to recall your former appearance, not what form you take in this new life, at least until they look into your tadpole. It's probably a bug but lorewise it does make sense.
@@evrimenustun9548 I walked in under Disguise Self, so naturally they didn't recognize me. Seems intentional that they only recognize your original appearance.
I can't believe i didn't get this scene on my Durge!
My favorite way to kill them is by telling them to just stop breathing. It's metal as hell since they're literally incapable of resisting your commands.
huh... i played dark urge and got none of this. Just the normal dialogue choices. Feels like a bug then? Kind of lame as this is really cool. I was never referred to in act 2 like people knew me.
hrmmm i noticed minthara wasn't here so maybe her being dead triggers it?
Think goblin, THINK!
I felt so bad for these goblins. rip.
I played dark urge and didn’t get this cutscene. Did I do something wrong?
same here. I'm kind of sad. It must be a bug. This is really cool.
So annoying that you can completely miss this for choosing the wrong first option smh
Good thing I killed these goblins in act 1 so they woulnd't have to get slaughtered here.
Oh the goblins are always there. Minthara is there too if you for whatever reason don't wind up killing her in act 1
Must've patched the interaction. My Dark Urge didn't get this interaction when I entered.
If you choose to keep silent it won't trigger. Option 3 (and likely 1) trigger it.
@@sectcampI chose option 1 and it did not trigger. Didn’t know this scene existed until just now lol.
I tried all of the options and it didn't trigger for me. It actually did trigger at first but the scene glitched and I reloaded. After that it never triggered again. I hope it doesn't mess anything else up.@@sectcamp
@@TheRealUFOsAreDemonic yeah I think mine was bugged. I am the DU and I definitely did not get this response. Oh well, I’ve already started a second playthrough as durge and hopefully it will work this time!
That armor is completely useless.
Goblin roll a nat 20 😂
Fantasy depictions of armour in a nutshell. They might as well all be made of paiper mache.
I missed this in my first durge playthrough because I went in with seeming up 😂
the only time in game I have felt bad for goblins so far
in forgotten realms, there’s always a worse evil
@@Slop_Dogg At least you're not a swarm-that-walks
I’m so sad I picked to use the colony to attack so I had no interaction at moonrise
I played as a customized Durge and didn't get this dialogue. Does it have to be the default white dragonborn?
No, you do need to make specific dialogue choices though.
looking like hector from breaking bad
uh, he has never acknowledged me like that when i played durge.
it makes no sense, if he knows me, why did he send me to find balthazar and secure the nightsong? if everyone knows me, why do they give me so much shit and attitude?
@@jsmith434w The game is unfortunately buggy and certain scenes that should have triggered have not been. It may have been the case with your play through that the game bugged out and you didn't get the scene shown here.
@a1374034
Spoiler
Its due to Orin telling everyone she fucked you up mentally so bad you're either dead (which you are in non durge playthrough) or basically a new willing slave since the chosen do not have worms in them. To have one is to become subjegated to their command and will. You're "disgraced" the same way Minthara is if left alive, where they erase your personality and being via the worm.
Fair warning, using shape shift of any kind will prevent any and all Durge events from playing out. Just had to watch this after I realized I missed it... Wondering what else I missed at the end of act 1...
Do u mean shape shifitng at this particular interavtion or jist shape shifting in general? Cause i have in act 1 but i only got part of this interaction.
@@itsmeboo6074 in general. Using disguise person removes the "haunted one" tag and stops Durge content
Hmm....why so many Dragonborn Sorc Dark Urges? Ppl didn't realise you can change job/class/race???
Yes, we know, but we dont want to.
There's ppl that like the default Dark Urge. I myself like It too. I'm just gonna change his class when I get to play it