its a really common comparison when talking about light speed and distance that humans have interacted with things outside of our planet. meaning, that Olympic games broadcast (at least in theory) is the farthest ... thing... humans have ever sent out into space. ever.
I mean, if we're taking the cube-world theory of Minecraft at face value... _Well and truly beyond a scale even numbers can aptly describe._ Like, if you need to understand what pentation is in order to be able to understand the expression of size... Does it really matter anymore? :D
It's a flat plane that has no perspective applied so is a fixed size. When you move the player/camera, the backdrop/atmosphere/sun follows the camera so position doesn't affect it but it still rotates with the cam. So you can never walk to the sun plane because it follows you. It's a fixed pixel size, not meters... so super super tiny I guess? Memory cells in RAM is small...
To be fair, this video is about heavily modded Minecraft hitting a computer's 64-bit floating-point limit, not the actual base game. Vanilla Minecraft's true maximum scale (combining all possible seeds within the hard-coded border) is actually 27 light-years, still quite tiny compared to the relative size of the observable universe which is broken down perfectly in Corridor Crew's video "VFX Artist Reveals the True Scale of Minecraft"
The mods just allow players to actually see what's intended to be there, but can't be rendered due to old limitations. It's not like it's adding brand-new content.
@ThePpwatergod27 Every time you call someone a name for being smarter than you, you've actually done the opposite. Called yourself out for being upset you don't get it.
@StewartAchrom It doesn't take much research, honestly, if you're interested to know. I mean, the first part, the second is down the deepest end. Fermi paradox is such a joke. But the implications of that are big.
@SpawnGameplaysOficial069 even if the wither storm expanded at the same rate as the universe it still wouldnt be able to eat the world in any reasonable time, assuming farthest lands are canon
And the fun part is that we can still see a moon and a sun and if we go by normal logic. The observable universe for them is probably so large it would be nearly imposdible to comprehend its existence
Someone has walked to the edge of minecraft but no one has walked to the edge of the universe btw Edit: (I did watch the whole video before commenting this. The purpose of this comment is that the universe is always expanding. Whilst a minecraft world may seem like it goes on forever beyond the farlands, no computer is strong enough to compute an infinite amount of data. It all eventually comes to an end or edge)
@Bix-p9d Should be vanilla but the devs gave up and are too busy holding votes on irrelevant content only to give us diseases that nobody asked for. Typical.
The problem with this is that it's in a singular direction. If you go void to build limit, Minecraft ends up being a lot smaller than most of these things, because it's just a very very thin shell.
Rumor Has It that the edge of Minecraft is where MissingNo was born and that at the end of Minecraft is the beginning of the video game multiverse. When you start bending the laws of physics in the original Pokemon games it tears a hole in SpaceTime allowing MissingNo to Traverse from the end of Minecraft into Pokemon.
This is a super commonly discussed thing in the science/sci fi community. It's a great example to use when talking about the furthest distance humanity has affected/touched. Hitler's speech is, unfortunately, the first message aliens would receive if the signal isn't too degraded for them.
07:07 correction here. The light from outside the observable universe cannot ever reach us. It is not a matter of time but a matter of expansion. Universe is expanding faster than the information we could obtain. So observable universe can get smaller if anything.
@Someoneyoudon-tknowI think they mean the observable universe would get smaller, not the universe itself. My super laymen understanding is that distance between us and distant light can expand faster than the speed of light, so that light would never reach us because the distance is increasing faster than the light can travel.
@Someoneyoudon-tknowThe part you can see/potentially observe is getting smaller. So the information you could acquire gets smaller not the universe. Sir Arthur Eddington have book called Expanding Universe or something. Check it out if you can.
@Someoneyoudon-tknowif the universe is expanding faster than light, and seeing light is how we measure the length of the universe, then we can never see that far because we are faster than the light that we need to see in order to measure the universe
How does that even make sense, the universe I getting bigger but the observable universe is getting smaller. Wouldn’t we theoretically get more information as time progresses about the edge of the observable universe albeit slower than the expansion but it’s still larger than what we knew before
@actuallyGhostie_homie That’s farplane2 which is able to use rough generation to generate terrain in lower detail. Distant horizons would neither be able to generate the terrain before the death of our sun, nor be able to render actually render it due to the extremely high RAM usage
7:28 we will never, even if we live forever see further than the observable universe because the universe starts expanding faster than the light can reach us. This doesn't violate relativity because the distance between points in the frame can get bigger faster than light. Just thinks traveling to the frame can't travel faster than light. Basically the grid can expand faster than light.
This could be negated if we develop FTL spaceships, hopefully in the future. It won’t be able to literally moving faster than light, but bending space itself around to allow us to move.
I love scary things of scale like "outside" the walls and "outside" the farlands. Is this cosmic horror? I imagine things like the last episodes of the HxH with the tree being a sapling
I don't believe him, but accurately, i do not trust his math. True, a "professional mindcrafter," who does not design outside of mindcraft like these guys do: ruclips.net/video/juQASG4Jy-E/video.htmlsi=EYP0NhVpcOVGc_3C
If we are going to be counting modifications towards the size of Minecraft itself, try arbitrary-precision decimal types (the limit of the size is now bound by being able to fit coordinates in memory, and this can be applied to some variant of the world generator though this would remove Far Lands effects) combined with camera-local rendering (this would cause most of the visual defects that occur to disappear as the "game" shown on screen is fixed to the numbers the computer can interpret). This makes Minecraft's size bounded by the number of permutations of matter in our Universe instead, which is necessarily quite a lot bigger. These arguments can also be made for every modern video game---modify it to allow you to use double precision, and you can travel far further than our own universe would permit us to.
OMG YOU ARE SAYING WORNG. WHEN HE SAID CENTILLION IT MEANS 1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 METER LONG. WHAT YOU ARE THINKING ABOUT IS CENTIMETER WHICH IS 0.01 METER, THAT MEANS CENTIMETER IS 100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 TIMES SMALLER THAN CENTILLION METER
It feels almost mystical in a way. Like ancient stories of people falling off the edge of the world back when people thought the world was flat, like if you travel too far to the edge of the world you fall off into a backrooms dimension where time is distorted, reality falls apart, and you’re never heard from again. Not dead, but forever stuck in limbo. Even though this wasn’t intentional, it’s strangely beautiful and weirdly poetic.
Maybe our reality wasn’t modded to expand further out yet and we all live in a simulation where the creators keep adding more and more thus expansion of the universe.
I don't believe him, but accurately, i do not trust his math. True, a "professional mindcrafter," who does not design outside of mindcraft like these guys do: ruclips.net/video/juQASG4Jy-E/video.htmlsi=EYP0NhVpcOVGc_3C
Reality does fall apart when you travel past the edges of the earth. The sun doesn't set and one day night cycle lasts for many months. The sky starts to dance with bright green and pink waving colors, and the unicorn horn can be acquired from a rare fish that breathes air and has only one tusk. The magnetic compasses begin to get distorted as the literal direction of north changes location. There a monstrous beast lurks with fur as white as snow and preys on human wanderers without fear. The Vikings knew not to travel past the edges of the earth. But those who could venture into that strange land where reality seems to work differently, catch a unicorn horn and bring it back would become very rich on return.
You're forgetting that there are roughly 18,446,744,073,709,551,616 seeds that can be generated in Java mod (not including bedrock). That'd be another cool vid idea. 😂
Except that the minecraft world is only 256 blocks high, making it virtually 2 dimensional, wheras the universe expands infinitely in all 3 spatial dimensions
@deadalt34 no, he literally chose it for engagement. There are sooo many more ways to measure this scale other than hitler's 1936 Olympic Games speech. It's just the event that feels the most theatrical for this context, hence, engagement bait. Basic psychology, he knew people would specifically comment a variation of "why did you choose this specific event" So even if it's the earliest sound sent this far into outer space, it was not the only reason.
well yeah i get it folks , but technically it's only about "a dimension" what you keep getting surprised about , and again can you even imagine the emergent sophisitcation and information present every "millimeter cube " of area even on earth . it's like comparing how all the dna in a human body can strech upto 600 times of distance between sun and the earth to the actual reality between the sun and earth ......... well it can't compare:- there's like a difference . a difference of nearly infinitesimal....... of information . minecraft is basically a blank line that much longer than the compared universe:- the universe which is basically still an incomprehensible , nearly infinte territory , with all we have are approximations . .
@macroraptor-j5f we know exactly how big the observable universe is. We can measure it. It's that bit at the end, when he gives a calculated value for the entire universe, that value is a guess. One of many guess values for the universe's actual size, but we genuinely don't know if *any* of those is correct.
You don't need to know how big a house is in order to talk about the road in front of it. All this is, is comparing numbers. It's a direct calculation of an observed space. That's why anything beyond our observable universe was theorized, and estimations are made based on our current knowledge about the universe that we hope to later prove. Not all get proven, but there's been some incredible minds that have figured out how things work that we'll never be able to see. But the theory was simply stated to create the example of how large Minecraft would be compared to the observable universe (and the estimated, thorized unobservable universe) packed into a grain of sand. We just need a base number and measurement, in order to make the same comparison to anything else.
@themadwarden6603 indeed. The entire universe could be infinitely bigger than the observable universe or could actually be smaller. There’s no way for us to know.
Video about Minecraft ends at 1:24, the game is literally unplayable beyond that size so the rest is just a discussion about floating point precision. Any 64 bit 3d game is bigger than the universe too if you just keep noclip flying past the end of the world as well, that literally has nothing to do about the game itself at that point. Maybe if you started stacking minecraft worlds with different seeds side by side you'd have an interesting comparison going.
Okay, I remember in corridor crew’s video, they mentioned something that made this even larger: other seeds. They did the math, and it turned out, if you combined every seed in Minecraft, just including the 60,000,000 by 60,000,000 area, that 27 light years across. I don’t know how large that would equate to in this version, but it’s probably a little big
I feel like it’s important to note that at this point you’ve practically exited the Minecraft world and entered some weird liminal void. It’s like if we discovered a separate reality that doesn’t abide by normal laws and then added this measurement as if it’s the same thing. The far lands and everything beyond that point is soo bugged out the software literally cannot process it, making it a place where Minecraft’s rules (aka the game’s reality) don’t apply. If you came across a giant clean cut cliff wall with holes to the abyss and exploring it just resulted in finding progressively more distorted land, I think it’s safe to say it’s not Earth anymore,.
@tosterzy yea, physicists are starting to come to a conclusion of alternate universe theory, and to be honest, i think its correct. still though, minecrafts pretty big.
JESUS FUCKING CHRIST BRO, THATS like the largest genuine number ive seen in a while besides infinity, but we all know that infinity isn’t really a number but more like a concept
So basically, Minecraft is bigger then the (observable) universe by an unfathomable amount, to the point that the game registers you're position as "Infinity" :I
@soulofartorias9928 Buddy, did you watch the video? Long story short, the game can generate terrain beyond that point. That's just where the hardcoded world border is.
Observable vs unobservable, od course we can only know the observable universe. The unobservable might be infinite. Or at least insanely bigger than the observable one
You didn't say 1 thing how fast Steve is. But don't worry I got it. We see AntVenom traveling from 6545465765743255E48 to 1.0E300 and he did that in 7 seconds so Steve travels 1.5 cotillion times the speed of light. That number is so big it is followed but 57 zeros...
You could also point out the /tp command but I'm not counting that beacause in minecraft it has been shown that you can only travel 20m blocks down and 19.9 m blocks straight but if you go on an angle it becomes much bigger. So the total distance you can travel is about 90m cubic blocks. I know that's fast but we can go faster.
Still smaller than other software like space engine. 27 lightyears in vanilla minecraft is TINY compared to the distances portrayed in the simulation of space engine.
this is a really cool concept and a cool look at the entire minecraft world. i had a theory that everybody thinks that the minecraft planet is like earth but a lot larger and such, but i think it's not really a sphere planet but like a fortnite flat like planet in a dome with the farthest farlands being the border. i think you'd have a fun time trying to imagine what the actual planet of minecraft would look and function, id think it be hilarious if you were to include the nether and end dimension.
I don't believe him, but accurately, i do not trust his math. True, a "professional mindcrafter," who does not design outside of mindcraft like these guys do: ruclips.net/video/juQASG4Jy-E/video.htmlsi=EYP0NhVpcOVGc_3C
I was imaging If every meter in Minecraft were equivalent to a millennium. Even so, it would be a paltry number compared to the infinite time that God has lived/lives.
The 2,147,483,647 is the 32 bit limit for computers if it were 2’s compliment meaning it had equally as many negative numbers it would be the 64 bit limit in 2’s compliment. Makes sense why the game struggles to load anything past this point.
Yep, and the mod mentioned at the end just changes the 64 bit long (in java) to a floating point double, which is able to store that wild 1x10^308 number
I don't believe him, but accurately, i do not trust his math. True, a "professional mindcrafter," who does not design outside of mindcraft like these guys do: ruclips.net/video/juQASG4Jy-E/video.htmlsi=EYP0NhVpcOVGc_3C
Its not bigger.... just cause its "endless" doesnt really mean its as big. If it was even a fraction of the size of the universe the amount of data needed would literally collapse into a black hole
Here's one more fun thought: The terrain generation math breaks down over time. Each step in the far lands sacrifices detail, becoming more and more simplified, until in the end, all that is left are individual lines of blocks spanning on one axis. These lines also stop eventually. The way the farlands glitch works actually means it's not restricted to the horizontal axes - it also happens in the sky and the void. You can check it for yourself by editing the noise scale value, the sky and void far lands will close in to the point where they can render. So if we removed the build limit in both sky and void, what would be left is a cube with an edge 25000 kilometers in length, half air and half rock. The inner surface is the world we play on. Extrapolating from this idea, the farther and fartherer lands and farthest lands will also expand in all six directions from this cube - and as the breakdowns start to occur, the world takes the shape of a six-pointed star, since the diagonal breakdown would in essence be double the intensity. I'm not sure just how big this star would be, the only way we can even study the phenomenon is by compressing the noise scale and the math to revert this into normal numbers is complex, but it would be INCREDIBLY large. Many trillions of lightyears across.
Trillions is probably a understatement here. I'll use the end of terrain as an example. Similar to in bedrock edition. The java farlands (what I assume is being talked about here) eventually decay not just into the farther lands and so on. But eventually into the fringe lands. Which actually exist starting quindecillions of blocks away. Where because of the formula for terrain getting a number near the 1024 bit limit (Where the infinity overflow happens. 1.79×10^308) Terrain starts to decay into 4 block pillars and lines. And eventually ends at probably the 6th root of the 1024 bit limit for a hard limit. Approximation 1Ly to 9Qa meters. 9×10^15. The fringe lands happen at 10^45 meters (roughly). Or almost the third power of a light year (And the fringe lands pass over that boundary for sure. As they extend possibly into the thousands of quindecillions). Making it over a Nonillion light years to that
@ArchieR-v8lthe biggest number the computer can make, compared to block size, means minecraft's size is a trillion, trillion trillion, light years big. Tri is 3, Non is 9.
Minecraft is bigger than the universe, but yet it fits in the universe? What’s next? You gonna start telling us Ants are bigger than Elephants or something?
I don't believe him, but accurately, i do not trust his math. True, a "professional mindcrafter," who does not design outside of mindcraft like these guys do: ruclips.net/video/juQASG4Jy-E/video.htmlsi=EYP0NhVpcOVGc_3C
@CloudMouth27 Radio signals were broadcasted in the 1936 Olympics. 90 years later, they have reached a distance of 90 LY. It is to show the scale. Maybe you didn't watch the whole video.
Programmer here, so about the infinity thing, i wouldn't call it the world size, it's the 32 bit float limit (similar to the integer limit), if you go by that, I can make a game that's 270 orders of magnitude biger of times bigger, just by using double precious floats (you have a limit of 10^308 instead of 10^38) so I wouldn't define it that way. But interesting nonetheless.
Also it's not that computers can't handle numbers bigger than the 64bit integer limit, you just have to use a different data type, like float or 128 bit, or something like javas bigInteger
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It's not btw, it fits in my pc
i also fit in my pc btw
It fits my pc scren btw
Ya it fits in my PC btw
fits in my phone
Fits on my playstation
It’s so big that he had to drag Hitler into the conversation
Awesome
The 1936 Olympics, man... I wasn't expecting a _Minecraft_ map-size examination to veer into Hitler, either. 😂
Godwin's Law
Bro imagine some racist aliens pulled up and was like so the Jews dead yet 😭😭😭
reading this before getting to that part is wild lmao
5:00 - 5:05 bro i just skipped 5 seconds what did just happend 😭
LOLLL
what did just happen? are you 5?
@tinydog0731
Are you?
@tinydog0731 dont think typos exist?
@tinydog0731either typo or he is not an English speaker
5:01 Achievement unlocked: how did we get here?
more like "HOW THE HELL DID WE GET HERE!?!?!??!"
probably from the old vsauce video WE have all seen and learned this information from
@ender.verified how the f you are verified
letting the dayyyys go by
😂Frr
5:01 bro went from minecraft to meinkampft
Nah fr tho 🤣🤣
Top comment 😂😂😂
Wtf is my fav book doing in this comment
MeinKraft
@ruski9861the hell
5:01 nearly spit out my food, tf did this come from 💔🙏
its a really common comparison when talking about light speed and distance that humans have interacted with things outside of our planet. meaning, that Olympic games broadcast (at least in theory) is the farthest ... thing... humans have ever sent out into space. ever.
Carl Sagan's book Communion referenced it, having the aliens contacting us by sending us our own signals back to us. "Hey, this is you guys, right?"
It’s from Contact by Carl Hawkins, the physicist that invented light speed from his wheel chair.
“Alright back to crack” ahh💔
@Drue-e9s 3 intelligent comments vs 1 tiktok commenter ahh 🥀
The size of the Minecraft sun must be incomprehensible.
Yes kr
Nah it's probably the same size as ours
Or smaller since everything isn't gigantic
It's just allot of block
I mean, if we're taking the cube-world theory of Minecraft at face value... _Well and truly beyond a scale even numbers can aptly describe._
Like, if you need to understand what pentation is in order to be able to understand the expression of size... Does it really matter anymore? :D
well, since the sun stays around the world no matter how high you fly up, the minecraft sun might be INFINITE
It's a flat plane that has no perspective applied so is a fixed size. When you move the player/camera, the backdrop/atmosphere/sun follows the camera so position doesn't affect it but it still rotates with the cam. So you can never walk to the sun plane because it follows you.
It's a fixed pixel size, not meters... so super super tiny I guess? Memory cells in RAM is small...
5:00 Holy change in topic
FR LMAOO❤
Fr
Perfectly timed lol
Frfr lol😂
@AnExcessiveAmountOfToast yt syncs the comments with timestamp to the video
6:26 "using extremely powerful modifications" opens cheat engine
Got jumpscared when he whipped out hitler out of absolutely freaking nowhere
😂😂😂😂
its so we will know why the aliens hate us.
It's just science
great guy
Never seen this channel before so when that happened i got REAL nervous
5:01 bruh i was listening off tab and that was UNSKIPPABLE
I was watching this vid in the background, saw ur comment, forgot about it, and then 2 minutes later i hear 'adolf hitler' 😭😭
To think that Hitler would be aliens' first impression of humans...
@nomansblog2025 If they received the message today, it wouldn't be that far off from current humans...
It's just science
@TheFrantastic "guys if you enter the country illegally by breaking the law it's okay i give you the pass to break the law"
5:05 well… that took a dark turn
5:01 I genuinely had to pause mid eating cuz WHERE did that come from 😭 nephew
its the first message we send into space so aliens would hear it first and he used it as mesurements
Well i learned something today 😅🤌
Croatiatia
It's not the first radio message not even by 2 decades
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welp... now i know what ill be doing for the next 342,356,375,245,245,975,961,000 years
It would be a lot longer than that.....
ill join you
theres a game bigger than this by the way, called 4d miner
@Cheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeese it has no size nor any rotation or position, btw
That's 342.356375245245975961000 sextillion years, btw
5:16 "kocmoc", "at the speed of light" yeah youre not slick buddy i know my gd refferences
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Title wave
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Boobawamba
Eyes in the water
Good enough, welcome back vsauce.
lmao right on point! or was it?
@bhishmap1tamah*insert vsauce music*
Pepperoni 🍕😭🙏
when you go so far into your minecraft world it turns into terraria:
kill your pet fish
@WeAreNotTollwardensWeAreHumans ..Excuse me?
@WeAreNotTollwardensWeAreHumanshourglass2048 core but replace fish with blonde people
@WeAreNotTollwardensWeAreHumansreport tgus gut vruh
6:28 "extremely powerful mods"
shows cheat engine
5:01 swapped from nostalgia to nostalgia
That was pretty actually pretty funny
Why does the second word nostalgia look different, what did you do 😩😭💀
6:17 are we deadass with that fake ending
To be fair, this video is about heavily modded Minecraft hitting a computer's 64-bit floating-point limit, not the actual base game.
Vanilla Minecraft's true maximum scale (combining all possible seeds within the hard-coded border) is actually 27 light-years, still quite tiny compared to the relative size of the observable universe which is broken down perfectly in Corridor Crew's video "VFX Artist Reveals the True Scale of Minecraft"
Nerd
Yeah, the universe doesn't stop following the laws of physics after measly 27ly, so it definitely doesnt use java.
The mods just allow players to actually see what's intended to be there, but can't be rendered due to old limitations. It's not like it's adding brand-new content.
@ThePpwatergod27 Every time you call someone a name for being smarter than you, you've actually done the opposite. Called yourself out for being upset you don't get it.
@jim@jimmio3727 👍 it a joke
but he is very smart tho:0
Sorry:(((((
5:27 imagine if the first ever thing aliens heard from earth was hitler’s speech lmao
Well that solves the Fermi paradox, no one would want to go anywhere near the source of THAT message!
Lols aside, nah, this merits extra lols, ET's have long been here, some even had a hand in orchestrating ww2.
@steelwasp9375 What?
@StewartAchrom It doesn't take much research, honestly, if you're interested to know. I mean, the first part, the second is down the deepest end. Fermi paradox is such a joke. But the implications of that are big.
@steelwasp9375 proof?
It's gonna take a bit longer than Jesse expected for the Witherstorm to eat the world.
lol fr
Maybe the WitherStorm would get bigger and would be easier.
@SpawnGameplaysOficial069 even if the wither storm expanded at the same rate as the universe it still wouldnt be able to eat the world in any reasonable time, assuming farthest lands are canon
@ScrimbsterFarlands exist, so I don't doubt it.
@ScrimbsterWait, wouldn't that be worse? A WitherStorm evolving endlessly without stopping.
And the fun part is that we can still see a moon and a sun and if we go by normal logic. The observable universe for them is probably so large it would be nearly imposdible to comprehend its existence
Someone has walked to the edge of minecraft but no one has walked to the edge of the universe btw
Edit: (I did watch the whole video before commenting this. The purpose of this comment is that the universe is always expanding. Whilst a minecraft world may seem like it goes on forever beyond the farlands, no computer is strong enough to compute an infinite amount of data. It all eventually comes to an end or edge)
We don't have the mods for that yet
@Loshe001I hate to spill the beans to you but no one in our lifetime is ever walking to the edge of the universe 💀
@chromeohno one ever in any lifetime I'll add; walking, swimming or flying. It breaks causality to do so.
@jawajadeGotta mod causation then
@Bix-p9d Should be vanilla but the devs gave up and are too busy holding votes on irrelevant content only to give us diseases that nobody asked for. Typical.
Funny thing is that you didn't even mention Minecraft seeds which there are 18,446,744,073,709,551,616 of them
What about the fact that seeds change between editions (like Bedrock and Java) and Versions (like 1.17 and 1.18) so it’s even higher
maybe cause its unrelated to the size of a world
@smb930 it's arguable that each seed could be its own planet which would immensely scale up the size of the minecraft universe
@LowQuality_Roblox1 they are all connected into one big world, the barrier blocks each world off from each other.
@SteamingBowlofSoup thats just not true
The problem with this is that it's in a singular direction. If you go void to build limit, Minecraft ends up being a lot smaller than most of these things, because it's just a very very thin shell.
3:28 The blocks in Terraria are 2 feet, does that mean we actually got A Terraria Movie instead?
And Minecraft even has a Multiverse, as every seed has his own entire world
Rumor Has It that the edge of Minecraft is where MissingNo was born and that at the end of Minecraft is the beginning of the video game multiverse. When you start bending the laws of physics in the original Pokemon games it tears a hole in SpaceTime allowing MissingNo to Traverse from the end of Minecraft into Pokemon.
4:53 uh huh...uh huh.... What?
the size of the ort cloud
?
@bewtnewt5:02
The oart cloud
WHY WOULD THE ORT CLOUD BE CLOSER THAN ALPHA CENTAURI ALSO MENTIONED IN THIS VIDEO AT 3:47 😭😭😭😭??? I'M SO CONFUSED WTH
5:04 Bro, what?
I especialy like how you Are the Only one who got the timemark right
@KarelMotejzìkYooo thank you
This is a super commonly discussed thing in the science/sci fi community. It's a great example to use when talking about the furthest distance humanity has affected/touched. Hitler's speech is, unfortunately, the first message aliens would receive if the signal isn't too degraded for them.
@ps_cymekunfortunately?
@johanmohnke are you a hitler fan or what? ofc it's unfortunate that i's him
would never expect to hear words minecraft and Adolf Hitler in the same video
07:07 correction here. The light from outside the observable universe cannot ever reach us. It is not a matter of time but a matter of expansion. Universe is expanding faster than the information we could obtain. So observable universe can get smaller if anything.
If its expanding how can it get smaller
@Someoneyoudon-tknowI think they mean the observable universe would get smaller, not the universe itself. My super laymen understanding is that distance between us and distant light can expand faster than the speed of light, so that light would never reach us because the distance is increasing faster than the light can travel.
@Someoneyoudon-tknowThe part you can see/potentially observe is getting smaller. So the information you could acquire gets smaller not the universe. Sir Arthur Eddington have book called Expanding Universe or something. Check it out if you can.
@Someoneyoudon-tknowif the universe is expanding faster than light, and seeing light is how we measure the length of the universe, then we can never see that far because we are faster than the light that we need to see in order to measure the universe
How does that even make sense, the universe I getting bigger but the observable universe is getting smaller. Wouldn’t we theoretically get more information as time progresses about the edge of the observable universe albeit slower than the expansion but it’s still larger than what we knew before
0:31 WHAT KIND OF PC DOES BRO HAVE??!??
Its the mod distant horizons
@actuallyGhostie_homiepretty sure that still requires like petabytes of disk space
@actuallyGhostie_homie That’s farplane2 which is able to use rough generation to generate terrain in lower detail. Distant horizons would neither be able to generate the terrain before the death of our sun, nor be able to render actually render it due to the extremely high RAM usage
@gooberbunchofrandomnumbers nope because it doesn't save any chunks
Got that Uranium pc🌱🌱🌱
7:23 Yeah there's definitely intelligent aliens somewhere. Likely multiple different civilizations
7:28 we will never, even if we live forever see further than the observable universe because the universe starts expanding faster than the light can reach us. This doesn't violate relativity because the distance between points in the frame can get bigger faster than light. Just thinks traveling to the frame can't travel faster than light. Basically the grid can expand faster than light.
This could be negated if we develop FTL spaceships, hopefully in the future. It won’t be able to literally moving faster than light, but bending space itself around to allow us to move.
@StarlightXvoidwhat's the point of going that far
@Soda_and_me why not go that far?
6:53
....mommy im scared.
I love scary things of scale like "outside" the walls and "outside" the farlands. Is this cosmic horror? I imagine things like the last episodes of the HxH with the tree being a sapling
Peak mentioned
How fast the topics change when me and bro are speaking : 5:01
Bro is cool ✋️
I don't believe him, but accurately, i do not trust his math. True, a "professional mindcrafter," who does not design outside of mindcraft like these guys do: ruclips.net/video/juQASG4Jy-E/video.htmlsi=EYP0NhVpcOVGc_3C
The random cut to Hitler is insane
If we are going to be counting modifications towards the size of Minecraft itself, try arbitrary-precision decimal types (the limit of the size is now bound by being able to fit coordinates in memory, and this can be applied to some variant of the world generator though this would remove Far Lands effects) combined with camera-local rendering (this would cause most of the visual defects that occur to disappear as the "game" shown on screen is fixed to the numbers the computer can interpret).
This makes Minecraft's size bounded by the number of permutations of matter in our Universe instead, which is necessarily quite a lot bigger.
These arguments can also be made for every modern video game---modify it to allow you to use double precision, and you can travel far further than our own universe would permit us to.
8:07 eh i can walk that distance.
OMG YOU ARE SAYING WORNG. WHEN HE SAID CENTILLION IT MEANS 1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 METER LONG. WHAT YOU ARE THINKING ABOUT IS CENTIMETER WHICH IS 0.01 METER, THAT MEANS CENTIMETER IS 100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 TIMES SMALLER THAN CENTILLION METER
UMM AKTUALLY☝🏻🤓 I WROTE "WORNG" IT'S "WRONG" BY THE WAY
my grandpa walked that distance to school every day
5:09 Ah this was not expected
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Made me clicked off the video 😂😂😂
Aroace twin?
@KennethV2000 why
Nah wee finna be invaded by space nazis now 😨
4:56 ---》 Crasiest example to explain something
3:09 I’m still chuckling at the snapping fingers. That was a well worth edit
It was so well-executed I didn’t really appreciate how funny it was until I read this comment.
“Fartherer lands”
7:17 so Minecraft could be smaller than the unobservable universe
Correct. We don’t know how big it is. Until we observe “nothing” we have to assume something is out there, which would make it infinite
I'll just leave this here
6:48
It feels almost mystical in a way. Like ancient stories of people falling off the edge of the world back when people thought the world was flat, like if you travel too far to the edge of the world you fall off into a backrooms dimension where time is distorted, reality falls apart, and you’re never heard from again. Not dead, but forever stuck in limbo. Even though this wasn’t intentional, it’s strangely beautiful and weirdly poetic.
Maybe our reality wasn’t modded to expand further out yet and we all live in a simulation where the creators keep adding more and more thus expansion of the universe.
I don't believe him, but accurately, i do not trust his math. True, a "professional mindcrafter," who does not design outside of mindcraft like these guys do: ruclips.net/video/juQASG4Jy-E/video.htmlsi=EYP0NhVpcOVGc_3C
Reality does fall apart when you travel past the edges of the earth. The sun doesn't set and one day night cycle lasts for many months. The sky starts to dance with bright green and pink waving colors, and the unicorn horn can be acquired from a rare fish that breathes air and has only one tusk. The magnetic compasses begin to get distorted as the literal direction of north changes location. There a monstrous beast lurks with fur as white as snow and preys on human wanderers without fear. The Vikings knew not to travel past the edges of the earth. But those who could venture into that strange land where reality seems to work differently, catch a unicorn horn and bring it back would become very rich on return.
5:37 bringing Hitler in this video is crazy
It’s a reference to a movie
@darkstormcotton world war 2 was a wild movie
Yeah i like old movies cause u never know if the good guys will win or lose.
And KurtJMac managed to walk to the edge of it fully legitimately!
What an achievement…
You're forgetting that there are roughly 18,446,744,073,709,551,616 seeds that can be generated in Java mod (not including bedrock). That'd be another cool vid idea. 😂
2:24 my toxic trait is thinking that's manageable. WTF brain???
Except that the minecraft world is only 256 blocks high, making it virtually 2 dimensional, wheras the universe expands infinitely in all 3 spatial dimensions
Bro the sky goes higher than the build limit
When you said "centuries" at 04:06 I audibly gasped because of how much I was expecting "years"
6:58 danse macabre is such an amazing song
jsab player?
@MrSheepOffical nah, I just watch mario muffet adventures
BY GHOST?????
@SlangRecap huh? Who is Ghost?
ULTRAKILL REFERENCE?!
Minecraft exists inside the universe. It's not bigger, it's just data. It means nothing.
5:03 alright bro you had no reason to choose this event at all💔🥀
@Orion-fur no? tho it is the first audio thing we send up into space
@Orion-fur Ironically it is actually very related
he literally said why he chose it
@Orion-fur is that supposed to make us angry? I don’t get it
@deadalt34 no, he literally chose it for engagement.
There are sooo many more ways to measure this scale other than hitler's 1936 Olympic Games speech.
It's just the event that feels the most theatrical for this context, hence, engagement bait. Basic psychology, he knew people would specifically comment a variation of "why did you choose this specific event"
So even if it's the earliest sound sent this far into outer space, it was not the only reason.
2:18 hmm this reminds me of a certain minecraft arg..
Searching for a player that doesn't exist?
⚠️🚨DADISH PROFILE SPOTTED🚨⚠️
AND SEARCHING FOR A WORLD THAT DOESNT EXIST??
THIS GUY KNOWS BALL
@BaldHeavenno I think its the he was mining bedrock for 6 years?
@owariomori yeah a certain player named hsle was doing that
@owariomori That´s what he said
well yeah i get it folks , but technically it's only about "a dimension" what you keep getting surprised about , and again can you even imagine the emergent sophisitcation and information present every "millimeter cube " of area even on earth . it's like comparing how all the dna in a human body can strech upto 600 times of distance between sun and the earth to the actual reality between the sun and earth ......... well it can't compare:- there's like a difference . a difference of nearly infinitesimal....... of information . minecraft is basically a blank line that much longer than the compared universe:- the universe which is basically still an incomprehensible , nearly infinte territory , with all we have are approximations . .
this video gives me such a sense of cosmic dread
6:35 naneinf blocks 🫠
The thing is, we don’t actually know how big the universe is.
“observable universe”
@macroraptor-j5f we know exactly how big the observable universe is. We can measure it. It's that bit at the end, when he gives a calculated value for the entire universe, that value is a guess. One of many guess values for the universe's actual size, but we genuinely don't know if *any* of those is correct.
You don't need to know how big a house is in order to talk about the road in front of it. All this is, is comparing numbers. It's a direct calculation of an observed space.
That's why anything beyond our observable universe was theorized, and estimations are made based on our current knowledge about the universe that we hope to later prove. Not all get proven, but there's been some incredible minds that have figured out how things work that we'll never be able to see. But the theory was simply stated to create the example of how large Minecraft would be compared to the observable universe (and the estimated, thorized unobservable universe) packed into a grain of sand. We just need a base number and measurement, in order to make the same comparison to anything else.
@themadwarden6603 indeed. The entire universe could be infinitely bigger than the observable universe or could actually be smaller. There’s no way for us to know.
And we probably never will all things considered
Video about Minecraft ends at 1:24, the game is literally unplayable beyond that size so the rest is just a discussion about floating point precision.
Any 64 bit 3d game is bigger than the universe too if you just keep noclip flying past the end of the world as well, that literally has nothing to do about the game itself at that point.
Maybe if you started stacking minecraft worlds with different seeds side by side you'd have an interesting comparison going.
Okay, I remember in corridor crew’s video, they mentioned something that made this even larger: other seeds.
They did the math, and it turned out, if you combined every seed in Minecraft, just including the 60,000,000 by 60,000,000 area, that 27 light years across.
I don’t know how large that would equate to in this version, but it’s probably a little big
I feel like it’s important to note that at this point you’ve practically exited the Minecraft world and entered some weird liminal void. It’s like if we discovered a separate reality that doesn’t abide by normal laws and then added this measurement as if it’s the same thing.
The far lands and everything beyond that point is soo bugged out the software literally cannot process it, making it a place where Minecraft’s rules (aka the game’s reality) don’t apply. If you came across a giant clean cut cliff wall with holes to the abyss and exploring it just resulted in finding progressively more distorted land, I think it’s safe to say it’s not Earth anymore,.
Whats the scale of a modern 30m by 30m world
That's what space is
@thebookofx It's literally not what space is
Not even taking into account that there’s millions, maybe even billions of worlds and many servers that exist.
not even taking into account all the parallel universes and timelines that might exist irl
@tosterzy yea, physicists are starting to come to a conclusion of alternate universe theory, and to be honest, i think its correct.
still though,
minecrafts pretty big.
@patrick_epic6969 its not anywhere near as big as hes saying in this video. its nowhere near the size of the universe, thats just blatantly false
18.4 quintillion seeds lol
@soulofartorias9928 a'ight prove it lad.
Don’t take the video as fact before entertainment. He’s going beyond his studies and his internet reach
6:43 now we need someone to apply break infinity to Minecraft
thanos
0:23 I’m sorry HOW MANY TIMES BIGGER?!?
332 quinquagviginticentillion i’m pretty sure
JESUS FUCKING CHRIST BRO, THATS like the largest genuine number ive seen in a while besides infinity, but we all know that infinity isn’t really a number but more like a concept
lol I didn't even know numbers got that big until I made this
theres a game way bigger than minecraft too by the way, its called 4dminer
@C@Cheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeese well 4D is infinitely bigger then 3D so what did I expect
6:23 ok mewgenics broke me because that danse macabre in the background instantly started singing "we're dead, we're dead, we,re dead..."
So basically, Minecraft is bigger then the (observable) universe by an unfathomable amount, to the point that the game registers you're position as "Infinity" :I
he’s looking for the furthest point from spawn where the game actually knows your coords
I mean yeah, thats what the video was about. Kinda cool, I enjoyed it at least.
@Tigerforge a minecraft world is roughly 60k square km. its not larger than the universe lol
@soulofartorias9928 you can go farther than that, as he explained in the video
@soulofartorias9928 Buddy, did you watch the video? Long story short, the game can generate terrain beyond that point. That's just where the hardcoded world border is.
6:22 Danse Macabre! I love that piece.
It's always amazing to hear it
just as I was getting over my existentiality, thanks man. but seriously this was a mind blowing video and a great watch.
Imagine that minecraft does a drop where the world can perfectly render now to 50.000.000.000.000 blocks
It would be boring
*Bigger than the universe that we know of…
Observable vs unobservable, od course we can only know the observable universe. The unobservable might be infinite. Or at least insanely bigger than the observable one
Video is clickbait
So, basically, we can simulate, ALL THAT, in our computers?
5:03 the goat mentioned
4:27 what is this song called?
Magenta - Sextile. Its a royalty free music that Ant Venom also used in his videos years ago
@albaniaweiss03 thank youuu, I also remember hearing it in AntVenom's Far Lands video(s) now, so that’s why it felt so familiar
You didn't say 1 thing how fast Steve is. But don't worry I got it. We see AntVenom traveling from 6545465765743255E48 to 1.0E300 and he did that in 7 seconds so Steve travels 1.5 cotillion times the speed of light. That number is so big it is followed but 57 zeros...
Steve's speed is so obscure he could go across all of the universe in 1.13x(10x20) seconds
You could also point out the /tp command but I'm not counting that beacause in minecraft it has been shown that you can only travel 20m blocks down and 19.9 m blocks straight but if you go on an angle it becomes much bigger. So the total distance you can travel is about 90m cubic blocks. I know that's fast but we can go faster.
3:23 Wait wait wait, so our boy Steve must be freaking MASSIVE.
Do you know what else is massive?
🤦♂️
Let me guess, it's related to the fabled Suggondeez tribe @Ecgaming009
@jaosim7029😐
@Ecgaming009 no no no, just no. We DON’T talk about that in the Supreme 26
5:25 it’s been that long?
Still smaller than other software like space engine.
27 lightyears in vanilla minecraft is TINY compared to the distances portrayed in the simulation of space engine.
0:16 that’s what she said
5:02 I LOOKED AWAY FOR 2 SECONDS BRO
weak
@Trainersuperintent98indeed real weak
You're saying that like you're completely confident you have a better way of showing the scale
And THIS is why there are barriers
this is a really cool concept and a cool look at the entire minecraft world. i had a theory that everybody thinks that the minecraft planet is like earth but a lot larger and such, but i think it's not really a sphere planet but like a fortnite flat like planet in a dome with the farthest farlands being the border. i think you'd have a fun time trying to imagine what the actual planet of minecraft would look and function, id think it be hilarious if you were to include the nether and end dimension.
I don't believe him, but accurately, i do not trust his math. True, a "professional mindcrafter," who does not design outside of mindcraft like these guys do: ruclips.net/video/juQASG4Jy-E/video.htmlsi=EYP0NhVpcOVGc_3C
change of title : Minecraft is Bigger than the OBSERVABLE Universe, by the way
The observable universe is bigger than Minecraft but I think the title should be “Minecraft us bigger than you” or something like that
how about you watch to the end of the video? lmao.
@jessedude704I don’t know about him but the creator did used observable Universe as a comparison not the whole universe.
@Atreussolosyourfavouriteversw you clearly didn't watch the whole video.
stop using tik tok. its destroying your attention span.
@jessedude704Nice assumption I don’t use TikTok second I did watch the video also how is it “clearly” when you got it wrong?
I was imaging If every meter in Minecraft were equivalent to a millennium.
Even so, it would be a paltry number compared to the infinite time that God has lived/lives.
thats one world in one version to get the whole size you have to calculate every possible world from every possible version
It's canon already that worlds are not connected at all os this makes no sense to even bring up at all
The 2,147,483,647 is the 32 bit limit for computers if it were 2’s compliment meaning it had equally as many negative numbers it would be the 64 bit limit in 2’s compliment. Makes sense why the game struggles to load anything past this point.
Yep, and the mod mentioned at the end just changes the 64 bit long (in java) to a floating point double, which is able to store that wild 1x10^308 number
I don't believe him, but accurately, i do not trust his math. True, a "professional mindcrafter," who does not design outside of mindcraft like these guys do: ruclips.net/video/juQASG4Jy-E/video.htmlsi=EYP0NhVpcOVGc_3C
Its not bigger.... just cause its "endless" doesnt really mean its as big. If it was even a fraction of the size of the universe the amount of data needed would literally collapse into a black hole
Here's one more fun thought:
The terrain generation math breaks down over time. Each step in the far lands sacrifices detail, becoming more and more simplified, until in the end, all that is left are individual lines of blocks spanning on one axis. These lines also stop eventually.
The way the farlands glitch works actually means it's not restricted to the horizontal axes - it also happens in the sky and the void. You can check it for yourself by editing the noise scale value, the sky and void far lands will close in to the point where they can render.
So if we removed the build limit in both sky and void, what would be left is a cube with an edge 25000 kilometers in length, half air and half rock. The inner surface is the world we play on.
Extrapolating from this idea, the farther and fartherer lands and farthest lands will also expand in all six directions from this cube - and as the breakdowns start to occur, the world takes the shape of a six-pointed star, since the diagonal breakdown would in essence be double the intensity.
I'm not sure just how big this star would be, the only way we can even study the phenomenon is by compressing the noise scale and the math to revert this into normal numbers is complex, but it would be INCREDIBLY large. Many trillions of lightyears across.
Trillions is probably a understatement here. I'll use the end of terrain as an example. Similar to in bedrock edition. The java farlands (what I assume is being talked about here) eventually decay not just into the farther lands and so on. But eventually into the fringe lands. Which actually exist starting quindecillions of blocks away. Where because of the formula for terrain getting a number near the 1024 bit limit (Where the infinity overflow happens. 1.79×10^308) Terrain starts to decay into 4 block pillars and lines. And eventually ends at probably the 6th root of the 1024 bit limit for a hard limit. Approximation 1Ly to 9Qa meters. 9×10^15. The fringe lands happen at 10^45 meters (roughly). Or almost the third power of a light year (And the fringe lands pass over that boundary for sure. As they extend possibly into the thousands of quindecillions). Making it over a Nonillion light years to that
@Somerandomperson-i3l i have no idea what either of you just said
@ArchieR-v8lUnderstandable
@ArchieR-v8lthe biggest number the computer can make, compared to block size, means minecraft's size is a trillion, trillion trillion, light years big.
Tri is 3, Non is 9.
0:46 if anybody ask the song is called checker dance
Song name? 🤔🤔🤔🤔
Song title??
@joshgamer1012 17. Checker Dance (DELTARUNE Chapter 1 Soundtrack) - Toby Fox
Toby never misses
it's in the desc
Minecraft is bigger than the universe, but yet it fits in the universe? What’s next? You gonna start telling us Ants are bigger than Elephants or something?
1. Minecraft exists in this Universe.
2. The observable Universe isn’t the whole Universe.
I don't believe him, but accurately, i do not trust his math. True, a "professional mindcrafter," who does not design outside of mindcraft like these guys do: ruclips.net/video/juQASG4Jy-E/video.htmlsi=EYP0NhVpcOVGc_3C
@gahmeihthecappbarer3830'mindcraft'
You havent even watched the whole video holy shi
2:30 If you had 3-5 people working together playing Minecraft in shifts you can have a case where the Minecraft world is running 24/7 without breaks.
You should do that
itd be easier to design a pathfinding AI to do that
you could literally just put a heavy object on the w key and just afk you literally don’t need like 5 people to do it
1:28 SIGNALIS IM ABOUT TO RELASPE AND CRY
Schubert "Serenade" D957 No.4 :SIGNALIS ver.
5:01 bro 😭😭😭😭
It's to show the scale. Do you have another better way of showing it?
@lambfrillythat ain't what they're talking about
@CloudMouth27 Radio signals were broadcasted in the 1936 Olympics. 90 years later, they have reached a distance of 90 LY. It is to show the scale. Maybe you didn't watch the whole video.
Programmer here, so about the infinity thing, i wouldn't call it the world size, it's the 32 bit float limit (similar to the integer limit), if you go by that, I can make a game that's 270 orders of magnitude biger of times bigger, just by using double precious floats (you have a limit of 10^308 instead of 10^38) so I wouldn't define it that way. But interesting nonetheless.
Also it's not that computers can't handle numbers bigger than the 64bit integer limit, you just have to use a different data type, like float or 128 bit, or something like javas bigInteger
@chax0208 question could you just move the world origin with he player to make it really infinite