'I was never a spy': SA President Ramaphosa responds to sell out accusations
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- Опубликовано: 8 фев 2025
- South African President Cyril Ramaphosa has refuted the allegations levelled against him by both opposition leaders Mosiuoa Lekota of Cope and EFF's Julius Malema that he was a sell-out during the apartheid era.
So that’s why Ramaphosa is a millionaire.. he was clearly a spy..
I’m From Namibia, and I know a lot of people with these kind of same allegations but they are millionaires and they known for the fact that they were spies.. so Ramaphosa clearly lied
You have absolutely no idea what you are faffing on about with your baseless claims. Cyril left politics in the 90s to go be a business man. Your assertion that he is a millionaire and therefore was a spy could possibly mean you are not familiar with the history of SA politics. He is a lawyer by training. Cunning as well. I would like to propose that one of the reasons for his wealth is the political influence and pressure he had in a business setting.
Ramadoos is a billionaire and did not work for his money. He obtained his wealth via political connections and corruption. It is the ANC way.
@@PTJ_S ass.. puppet like Cyril.. I’m talking about him being a puppet.. Selling other people for money.
billionaire
Of course he was! because black people are not allowed to be rich, even the likes of Motsepe are also criticized by black poor people. Focus on your country issues.
The President's body language speaks volumes. Study it and make your own analysis....even the quivering voice.... tells it all
Mxm sis
@@ludakaakhona2253 it touches you that deep hey!!! 😍
@@dollyk263 S/he is probably one of those paid media influencers
" I refused. " but he nods his head as he says it...
kkk
Wait, Cyril says he was being prosecuted at the same time as Lekota...they asked him to turn a state witness, he said no, but then he went home and Lekota went to Robben Island. How? What was the grounds for his release?
That's the question ❓
The answer is in plain view
He is not telling the truth
YOU ARE TAKING THE TRUTH ❤❤❤💪this guy is a traitor
Good question.
You refused and you were released, who has ever refused and released and all these time you get arrested and released but the others end up dead or arrested for many years
Good question. Who gets released and then becomes rich? Many things don't add up here
Yeses😢 taking all of us for kindergatten😮
We will never get an answer from him but his statement SAID IT ALL 😂, You can't be let go just like that.
My point exacly . People were killed for refusing to cooperate . Bikos n them . Now yena he politely refused n tgey let him go . Jesus christ.
I wonder how old you are. Many people during those days were arrested and released, even those who were active in the struggle and the Special Branch would spread lies about them. The aim was to create divisions within the struggle so that it collapses. Many were killed based on false accusations.
The president of South Africa is trying his best to get the approval of Europeans. He is such a sad example of leadership. Why can't South Africans elect a strong president?
It’s not up to us
We only elect the party
The party (ANC) elected him
This is run in ANC Stellenbosch..... ANC IS THE ONLY CAPTURED ORGANISATION IN SA. THEY ALL Thieves.... This man is the king father' po g all Soweto thieves
@@sve5543 o o
When that lair came in to power he promised to take the land back, he still haven’t done nothing yet. Yes the great Nelson Mandela did sellout the South African people why the caucasians still run the economy and own most of the land.
Your exiled heros have rich families they the kak .i don't trust prisoners atleast he go money that he can loose if this country fails but useless prisoners don't care.
He lies so well...father a police man...He speaks from a well memorized story.Spy
True
Father was a police man, meaning he knew law and maybe his father pulled strings for him to be released, since well there was no solid evidence that he is holding evidence/ knows things
Daddy a policeman during the apartheid era?..makes me wonder.
Red flag right there.
I’m telling u bro
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣I dont believe this story too.
Jacob Zuma's father was a policeman as well. In fact a lot of these leaders had fathers who were in someway working for the state. Does it make them spies?
Others were activists whilst wearing the police uniform. So being in the police doesn't matter.
There are so many people were police during appatheit government
This guy was trained to manipulate people
Hes a witch
Higher grade stuff
But people what was he suppose to do, faced with the vicious brutal regime .
@@revothomas9343 then he must shut up instead of acting like he was good person
A sell out 2 the Black nation this 1 a good munipulator a very greedy corrupt president & very selfish to lose R5 to poor in his pocket 😂😂😂
If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck.
Dear Charlice, correct, we all know the difference between a duck and a bull terrier. Bull terriers do not let go. Regards, Alinda Nieuwoudt. Proudly South African.
Succinct!
Yebo‼️
I just lost all hope...Ramaphosa must just give us a break and step down...
I doubt he will do that
Dear Andanega, he is already down, together with all his allies. Time to move forward, united as one nation under the guidance of our Creator. Keep the faith! Regards, Alinda Nieuwoudt. Proudly South African.
His answer on state capture eyi I am scared
I agree totally, I wish Ramaposa would resign because he is a born again liar
I had hope in 2018 but not now at all
The fact that he's reading his life story should mean something
where do u see that.
@@Man-P He has been reading though…but maybe it’s to recall the names. But I’m unsure about one thing…the guy in Silverton Police station got killed, the guy he was found with in Soweto was also killed!
@@Mntungwa77 how funny when Zuma spoke of history in the same parliament never referred to a book
Zuma interchanges between Zulu and English... lot more Zulu than English. This man is speaking English... polished English.
@@lifewithsilindilengcobo4620 here he was reading not speaking. Watch Zuma speaking about his history not referencing one bit, from arrival of whites to all the developments
It's funny how people was getting arrested and killed by police.... But not rama
impimpi le
So he was supposed to be arrested and killed to be not a spy? Its funny how people perceive the past as if they would have done better.
@@ludakaakhona2253 all Fighters were in exile while he was dining with whites, during apartheid you were a spie and still is, check his CR doners
@@ludakaakhona2253 all Fighters were in exile while he was dining with whites, during apartheid you were a spie and still is, check his CR doners
@deneo adeola. Ok now i see. Seems like you were also an informant since you saw him dinning with the whites or perheps you have a concrete evidence to support your argument. And seems like he was the only black who did not go into exile. Is that what you mean?
What happened between 1976 and 1985,why you were never sentenced
You can ask that again
Ramaphosa was a unionist fighting for the rights of the workers him together with Mantashe. He was arrested too.
I do not believe this man; his eyes tell another story
Ramaphosa is a liar
@@gerritgeibeb8554 Yes
His a Beast. Devil himself
Did u cee his face on saturday
Stuttering
Ndlozi, Malema and Shivhambu are shaking their heads like "This guy is taking us for a ride"
Hi Craig, really I appreciate that you are the history keeper of Ramaphosa and the Mandela's, If as you say he worked for the Opperheimer dynasty and became rich, it was good for him because he did not sweat for nothing. If Mandela got a house from them I think that's great. There are so many lies going around that I do not care searching for the truth. How people make themselves rich is not my Indaba. I really think that you are sore because you not in his shoes, and like so many who failed to make their, always seek something to tarnish those who succeeded. I don't know whether you dislike the man because he is of Venda origin and hate his guts for daring to become President. Maybe you should dwell on how the others got their millions without having lifted a finger on a job, but at least this one worked for the Oppenheimer dynasty who did not pay him peanuts, ending up being a billionaire. Can you say the same for others?
@@marulevideos1574 I'm not jealous of Ramaphosa and this has nothing to do with tribes. I dont know why many people they love playing a race or tribe card. I think having a moral ground is also important as a human being. We cant keep saying we are successful by stepping on other people to make it. This a problem I have with many black people. ANC was meant to fight for black to have the same economic rights as white people. And not to sell your own black people for your own selfish gain. He was a spy this guy, that's why he became a billionaire. As for me I wouldn't applaud anyone's success if they have achieved it by killing others and selling them to white people. That's not success.
Also look at his recent history, he gave orders to kill innocent people in Marikaana and children lost their parents because of this man. He sabotaged Eskom while Zuma was fighting load shedding, coz his masters wanted to continue using Eskom as their cash cow. There's nothing good about this man's leadership. Look what he is doing to us right now as a nation. Some of our family members lost jobs because he took the money from IMF and that money came with lot of conditions which includes strict lockdowns and many lost their jobs. They bring the virus here and then they sabotage our livelihood. Ramaphosa is probably one of Satan's agents. I've never seen a president who doesn't care about the citizens of his country like this guy. I real thought he was gonna do better because he is educated but he is just a puppet to his masters. He is a programmed robot
🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 Hahaha I can't wait to hear Malemas response
A spy ... A sellout ... A traitor
If his father was a Police officer, why are people surprised to see him being released unlike Lekota
Lekota looks disgusted by The President's lies🤣🤣🤣🤣
🤣🤣
He was taking notes to contradict him, then decided to ignore him😅
No, he looks defeated by his timid attempt to paint the president as a spy. Remember, it was Lekota who nominated Cyril as the Secretary General of the ANC in 1991,and the overwhelming number of votes Cyril received against Zuma is a vindication of Cyril 's impeccably credentials as a leader beyond reproach. This new narrative that seeks to cast doubts on his personality is a ploy to neutralize his vigor to fight the level of corruption in our country. The Guptas messed with tacit approval of your beloved RET, what are you doing about it?
Umdayisi lo, uRamaphosa
😂😂
He never lift a finger for the liberation of this nation like his father
Aag shame, I feel sorry for you, seems you don't know South African history, my best advice is search the archives, beginning with the World and Daily mail newspapers
i guess he eat from a
menu in jail. stop telling your nonsemce over and over. you talk alot of B.S
I think you should read S.A. history particularly near 1994.
Like father
What r u talking about... after Mandela was taken out of prison, during those negotiations Ramaphosa was leading those negotiations. Mandela once even said "He would make a great president".... u need to read history books papa awazi lutho. He also dealt with so many issues in the 80's that u need to find urself. I can't type that much 🙄
But why is my heart telling me that this man is a liar and must be true that he was a spy
There is no smoke without fire
It's funny how others were tortured but you were let go and given an opportunity to think about it.
Ramaphosa is lying plz don't listen to him.
You obviously don't know Amabhulu brains. That happened to a lot of us in the struggle
The other funny thing is that he remembered each and every detail at this age.... This guy has kept his spy notes. I doubt apartheid police could've let him go for free, he returned them a favor.
This guy is working the other side.
When a parents asks the child if they did something wrong & instead of answering yes or no, the child goes on about everything except what they are accused of. The parent interrupts: "my child did you sign a letter claiming Mr. Lakota put communist ideas into your little head, yes or no?"
All I saw was a man trying to evade the question while trying to associate himself with the Steve Bikos of this world. Oh & diverting the blame by blaming others of being MI6 agents. Classic case of my child giving me a very long explanation & informing on my other kid for whatever he did wrong, instead of answering a simple question, yes on no. SELL OUT!!!
Dude no plz man u embarrasinv urself... literally Ramaphosa is the last person u wanna attack. Do u know that after Mandela's release he led the negotiations during fall of Aparthied, mandela said once "ramaphosa would make a great president". Ppl just hate him... animfuni njee
@@sboneloxaba566 by noting that the he failed to address the matter he supposedly wanted to address
@@sboneloxaba566 Of freemason sell out mandela would say that because they the same sell outs
@@sboneloxaba566 who elected him for those negotiations ?
@@sboneloxaba566 yeah he is
The faces of all the comrades who went to war, is full of disgust. This guy loves lying 🤥
"Your a skelem from soweto" aka "You're a spy from Soweto", even they saw his tendencies
You can’t convince me that your not sal out for me you’re big one salute from Guinea-Bissau 🇬🇼
During that six months Period of solitary confinement is when the got broken down and agreed to be a spy
This man needs to go! Seeing all the things that he has seen throughout the past. How can he be a president and do nothing for his people? Black Africa do not need people like him in office!! The proof is in the pudding and judging from what he has done so far, Africa does not need this man
And the MARICANA massacre!!
How can a MINE workers union leader get them killed or allow them killed like that ???
RAMAPHOSA MEH!!
My question is how come other leaders where killed but some jailed others got wealthy
I wouldn't differentiate if your comment is out of ignorance, jealousy or pure ignorance. Everybody working in a factory has his or her ambitions or purpose . We as people have diverse fates, blessings, curses etc. Some have to work for others, though some own businesses they don't become rich, some die because of lack of vigilance, some die because of not following orders in a war situation or as a normal citizen ignore warnings of dangerous hotspots. Some simply die. There's a saying that " there's no hurry in South Africa " but some made hay while the Sun is shining, and others sat under the tree getting high on marijuana and nyaope. An employee who once worked for me, saw another business man, and remarked, " I was wiser than that guy at school, look at him now " He was busy digging while that other guy was driving past in his 4x4 following his truck. Suggestion when you get up in the morning pray for insight and wisdom so that you may know why.
@@marulevideos1574 the time when things happened is very important and what happened is very important. Let's not go into luck and generalizing but look at what level happened at what level and resources that time. If you were a leader of some sort and gave problems to the state. The state would want you down. Working hard for wealth is different from planning wealth with the wealthy.
@@timditse2961 hi I guess you are a human being with consciousness, self respect and dignity. I wrote the comments because I physically know what some people are capable of when they desperately want something. I know people who are in jail for crimes they didn't commit. I know of people who were killed by the mobs who never verified before the act. You will die just for passing by a crime scene, and become a scapegoat. Now Mosioua knew CR long before CR was elected President. Having had such valuable information, why did did he fail to bring forth this information. Why now? Terror as he is known was trying to score some points and the favour and support of the EFF. Terror was chief of the army, what stopped him then to arrest CR because he was in charge of the security of the country. Sometimes learn to read between the lines and see through them. A lot are in favour of JZ because he was a blindman leading the blind, a racist and a man with revenge in his heart, and will stop at nothing to destroy the lives of others. Terror knows it deep in his heart that he is not presidential material, as much as Juju. Digging dirt about others doesn't make you a righteous man nor does it make eligible for certain positions. There are those who have the last word. There are also those who think themselves leaders for life, JZ never thought he would be forced to step down. Mbeki never protested nor did he ask for an extended term, and never swore revenge, but JZ did all that. Listen, look decide, and avoid rumours. Water flows in different directions but never going uphill, and people who don't analyse the politicians words, and up like sheep following one another into a waterfall.
Notice how the white people defend him
@@marulevideos1574 Ramaphosa was a leader of mine workers while true heroes were suffering. He was making business deals while true heroes were being arrested. I would say you're the one ignorant here. The guy was raised by the Meneer Famìly. The same family that later sent him to fetch Mandela in prison. He is the one who gave white people access to Alleged Mandela and they gave Mandela a house in Houghton. Ramaphosa was their boy. Stellenbosch mafias they own Ramaphosa. Youre too ignorant. Billionaires are inventors of things. Ramaphosa sold out ANC in order to be rich
this the slickest speech i have ever heard. this guy is a specialist in confusion and missed direction
What he said about Malema was strategic 😂
he just tells you what his handlers want you to know
Notice how the ANC ministers look angry and bored by the sugarcoated stories.
No proof in the president's account. He is the only witness in this story. I also like how the police spoke to him so nicely(it shows they were cordial)
Did he get arrested? No
With everything that's going on right now I believe his still one
My brother ur rite he is destroying zuma now
Totally. She continue to show himself.
Lekota your look said it all Sir. I'm with you.
He told them they must keep their billions he is not going with them
Not once did he say 'I didn't write the letter to special forces'. So no record has been set straight here. As for his character, we know it: Marikana, corruption and state capture
Bring it on, but I don't think think you have facts to prove your speculation. So no facts, shut up.
Bring it on, but I don't think think you have facts to prove your speculation. So no facts, shut up.
@@marulevideos1574 the marikana documentary is on RUclips, paid troll.
You can now add The #PhoenixMassacre
TEARS ARE ROLLING IN ME WHERE I AM. DEEP SADNESS ,AND PAIN,DEEP SADNESS,AND PAIN!!
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🎉
I would love to see Malema as the president of South Africa 🇿🇦, but the South African people is lost their would only vote ANC
Shame and disappointment, Ramaphosa is fighting with Zuma, he did not sees new political party supported by those disatisfy with Zuma's arrest, forget about members of ANC in grassroot levels
Looking at this again I see even the his own people don't believe him.
Terrible that people think that CR was a sell out. The real sell out was Nelson Mandela
³b...ñuŕahmeď dawood bhatker very much like d .osoooooooģ good soweachx ç⁵ģhipkýb çhiplun skwajks very much skelmersdale from sometimes ango Americans numerous times 2 and Nelson nabnsiòinaccusatìin
But they're clapping hands for him mos🤷
Why would Ramaphosa read what happened on that day. He should have relied on his memory like Terror Lekota. It is a prepared response. The eyes tells no lies
So He shy away from the important matter of being a sellout and focuses on workers union....Skelem
Sellout, why is he reading his story and life experience
His lying why did they release him and why doesnt he want to disclose the snitches name
Lekota's face🤣speaks volume.
The way the house is looking and listening to him😂😂😂😂😂😂😂they're all thinking Bullshit!!!
That look from Lekota !
Even the judge behind him is so embarrassed to be on the same video clip with him!...I always just have a bad hunch if a lie comes into my ear!...I just feel this is NOT TRUE
Lekota knows the truth
Yeah, that he was bought to spread those accusations. He dismally failed in a lot of positions he held, that is he clings to politics, of which he is a terrible politician too. Check out the African history and ask yourself why most African exiles are in South Africa. People like Terror tell lies because they wouldn't be investigated and live the country with question marks. Immunity, CR has changed all that.
The last kick of a dying horse.
Yep
I don't trust his words, I watch his actions.
Your exile heros still left you poor .😭😭🙈🙈😂😂😂
@@wilmanmitchell4410 they pay themselves first...
"I did not have sexual relations with tha woman, I repeat..I DID NOT HAVE SEXUAL RELATIONS WITH THAT WOMAN" Bill Clinton 🤣🤣🤣
You might have seen Billy C pick up line is this man. Lol
Spoiler
He did🤣🤣🤣
His father was a police man...and he did not sell out
Fairy tales neh 😂😂
" 11:54 " ndlozi and floyd shaking their head know that Cyril isn't making sense
A sellout never admits
It's easy to tag someone mybru , you know nothing
How do South Africans end up voting for ANC despite it's failures
@@bigsambigsam800 What do you know?
@@elvisiwot5215 there's no alternative it's either you vote for the racist DA or the corrupt ANC .
Shame, Terror Umjongele ukuxoka
lol ramaphosa is a lier why is he reading his responce to the sell out call??
I dont buy his story... an opportunist I am convinced made a lot of money through NUM in the early days. You dont get that rich by working so hard your whole life for “your people”...
You genocide individuals
We will listen to his stories.
Thomas van der Spuy Isn’t he supposed to be rich just like any other individual who aspires the good life. He is as human as any other. He is also allowed to dream.
So he starts Shanduka in 2001 and make insane investments. Where do you think did these billions in capital come from - go read his history and study the Glencore controversies coming from the NUM days and leading throughout until the start of Shanduka. Worth $550 million, that is R6.5 billion (or 6,500 x million rands) fighting for his people my ass... You can start here - en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyril_Ramaphosa
Thomas van der Spuy thanks for that... I will dig in and go through it.
All the below after serving “the people” through NUM. and then in 2001:
Among other positions, he was an executive chairman of Shanduka Group, a company he founded in 2001. Shanduka Group has investments in the resources sector, energy sector, real estate, banking, insurance, and telecoms.
He is one of South Africa's richest men,[68] with an estimated wealth of R6.4 billion ($550 million).[69]
In 2011 Ramaphosa paid for a 20-year master franchise agreement to run 145 McDonald's restaurants in South Africa.
Lekota's look says it all
😂😂😂
that arrest at mankweng police station. Red flag. Security police: "its either you cooperate with them" or...........I did not do any of the things they want and I was released" APARTHEID ERA HERO
Was listening to that. It seems like that's where they got him. I don't believe him about choosing neither of given choices. How did he get rich just after apartheid Era which didn't support development of blacks.
@@lethukuthulamhlongo4069 A bit late
But I think he was already a turncoat
Once you mentioned your father was a policeman sergeant...that explains your selling out...keep the test my Presso.
What was he doing in the enemy camp killing his own people
He can't lie this one
The look from Mr Likota at the end, seems not believing Mr Ramaphosa. 😂😂😂
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Even Malema is very impressed😂😂
One biggest sign that a person was not born to lead is when you see him reading all his speeches. Real leaders speak from the heart
"Sometimes even the best actors do not stick to the script"
@@talesoleatsekatane6267well because they ain't leaders
What he's saying does not make sense and if it does not make sense it's a lie...
Such a well polished story. Everything is perfect.
They gave him 3 options and he took none? We all know the results of that will be death.
Walter Sisulu said they were never concerned of secret meetings with Mandela because they trusted his character? Lol what bullshit is that? They all fought in the struggle but were not concerned when only one of them was allowed in those meetings? Hahaha that can only mean one thing. Everybody was bought to shut up.
Nice try Ramaphosa, we see you!
Amanga nje la.... Ngisho ingane encane iyabona mnxim.
Cha unamanga, mina angiboni
'Never been a spy never worked with the enemy' then how do u explain Marikana mine workers killings?
How do you explain the killing of the police and fellow mine workers by other miners
Where did you get the to start your business empire Chief?
Bc3
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Johan Rupert puppet 😂
The man just fooled everyone those no can just be released just as did as he said
How can you read your own life story???🤔🤔🤔
Exactly
I cannot comment on his speech, after 46 seconds I moved on. The people have voted them in, the voting out ain’t going to happen.
"I was called alone aside..."I refused 😂...this guy
Liying coz we were not there
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 a mn s he’s the only one that became a Billionaire.
There’s a video of him skinnering with DeKlerk, while walking behind Mandela using signs!
Hmmm, Tshifhiwa and you were detained...he was released because he was not Mashinini! You were released why again my dear good sir? And he was rearrested and killed? Is that perhaps because he was being silenced for what he saw the apartheid impimpi do when you were detained together?
Mr. Ramaphosa, you should have taken the advice not to substantiate Terror's facts now as it turns out!
He sold out
You all who commented here must learn politics
Name 1 politics who never lied
U are Zulu right 🤔👀
Politician*
In a nutshell you are saying we must believe that blatant lie? please don't underestimate our intelligence.
His father was a sell out as well. It runs in his family
After listening to his speech, I conclude that Ramaphosa definitely sold out.
Hot air. Bill Gates comes to mind.
Matthew 12:30 He who is not with Me, and He who does not gather with Me SCATTERS.
We Need Unity in Our country!!! May the Almighty GOD Have Mercy on us. The Bal is now in Your Cord South Africa and you NEED WISDOM TO PLAY SUCCESSFULLY
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Ramaphosa is a good manipulator who was taught the skill of communication. I mean why is he reading his own story you can tell by just the appearance of his face that this man is lying.
How can you sleep after destroying Molope Bakeries?
That was a terrible and embarrassing response ever. He is hiding the truth and couldn't hide it well. If he knee who sold out Lekota and not said anything, he was an accomplice. How many people did the person condemn to prison or death? How is Malema compared to him been arrested without blood been drawn from ruthless police whom love him today? It's a pity I didn't pay too much attention on this response then.
Lies its written on his face and can perceive from the people around him reaction to his words
Baqhwaba nabo onontorotyi knowing most black police officers back then were spy surely his dad bought him nice Borotho Known as intloko ekati bread in Xhosa why didn't he mention that name in Silverton police station udlala ngathi uRamza he knows Ches game very well Lekota did a checkmate
Telling us the history but with no confident. I remembered Zuma once said "we were all in struggle but we are divided into two. Some of us we came from struggle and be rich some of us we came being poor" why some of you comrades were poor while other ones being rich💔💔💔
Zuma my foot!
Zuma came to be rich, he told you straight and that is what he did.
Ramaphosa he sold this Country again
@@sandilemfeka4658 And you think Ramaphosa worked for his money?
@@dannym7593 Ramaphosa is sure not better than Zuma
And what has this story got to do with 30 years of ANC ruin?
a drum can not play itself.
Spy doesn't like to be called spy,as much as a thieve doesn't like to be called thieve
We need to stand together as a nation always no matter what
Baningi esasibathembile kakhulu ababuye ejele sebesithengisile ababesami eqinisweni abanye badliwa inganono.
uphi u Chris?
South Africa is still stuck in the past and not focusing on the future and development of South Africa.
Pity for those who are still voting for the anc though they are staving to hell,. Lucky for those who became the billionaires after 1994 like this guy... anyway rest in peace to the people of marikana
And Phoenix!!!!
You can’t be released and the neighbour that snitched got arrested. Even worse, they wanted yu to work with them😅😂
He’s lying
The frog has heated himself! Will boil soon.
1 Corinthians 10:21 You cannot have a part in both the Lord's table and the table of demons. You Ramaphosa have chosen to sit at the table of demons. God warned you to repent and turn away from His enemies. It was your own free will . And now God is removing His angels of protection from you and those sitting with you. And the whole world will see, because He will not be mocked. In Jesus name.
Now where is this man??? The country is on fire
That is how a good spy would respond 😆
You may never have been that, but you may have been perceived so and still been seen to be so. It's perception and it's hard to shrugg off.
Horrible things happened to people who were arrested and nothing happened to u and what's worse U were released
Everyone who becomes president we gonna look into their past n judge em by that to remove them out of power, even if motsepe was to become president questions would arise about how he got money
Where he motsepe buy his mining and who we land claimed that land
Ramaphosa is a sell out. I hope you're not trying to defend him. His handlers will make u believe that he is a saint. They control the narrative
ONLY JESUS HAS A POTENTIAL TO VINDICATE HIS CHILDREN.
Your father told you to be a state witness and you said no? 😂🤥
He still is
But the President has not dealt with Lekota's accusation. Further, the art of war states that people who sellout or otherwise do not tow the line must be removed. End of storey. Read the book.
What the President has just shown is that Mandela was a weak leader. A strong leader would have done the morally correct thing, which is to get rid of anyone with a wife of betrayal. The question is then why not?
But my question is why you didn't spend longer period like others