The Death of Honey Sugarman (Bojack Horseman Video Essay)
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
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Honey Sugarman was right about one thing, a lemon with a little sugar is a nice snack. Not great for the teeth though
Dare you to try yellow grapefruit or ooh the peel so it is even more possibly than otherwise would be., bitter lol
Who cares about teeth
If it’s tasty it’s mine
Also, sugar makes you fat. Which is why they did not allow Bea any pancake or ice cream
@@VideoMatoran o.o
And as for you @anti-usernamesaltaccount3623 uh dentist appointments are expensive for what it is wirth imho.., at least for me.. an for that and diabetes risks I say moderation albeit as a kid I would have said the sane thing you did vs ascan adult lmao I just rather would not wanna go have to pay to have my teeth drilled... man I feel old because of numerous things between the tech issues of not exactly modern catastrophes hehe fwiw like optical media compatiblity researching and confusion or by far the way I sound here... or that I still have yet to use myessentially a souped up I am presuming free mp3 music device that for showing up to some automohile sort of show at the local mall nearby me as a kid or teen even though I did already have iirc at least a blue ipod shuffle 2gb idk what gen but possibly at that time still had even my short lived between dropping it outside and forgettingvin a leaky camp tent in the rain fwiw just one or maybee a two night span iirc.. having setvitvin the pocket etc fwiw yeah.. but hey ngl I fr have the shuffle and maybe even that green idk what brand music plauer/withva micro sd slot.. iirc it can be used as a flashdrive via that if plugged in to a computer plus it has the beloved by me.. or come to become familair and novel/nostalgia MINI not that awful quick to die shape of cable called MICRO usb.. nor the ok but not nostalgic etc.. usb type c essentially similar to the 5 pin vs the 32 pin.. 3rd vs 2nd variations of ipod (nano and well any non shuffle iirc apple device portable unit) and yeah.. huh I guess ai for funsies might see if uh maybe in a cool sort of not super-bad no pun intended.. *I feel like about as smart sounding as a Mcclovin/og ps1 era "hey plumber & dr. boy your worst nightmare has arrived (how it makes Mario.. the game character Mario)" sounds.. but yeah if I can see someday if I feel like it and remember this.. to see of if the sjuffle is capable of non itunes or even in particular.. non bought vs merely obtained from... reputable methods of sources... that are also at least to be fair justifiable by reasoning and methods and things or stuff etc.. like just to see one if it is possible seemingly so that is.. or if it is then is it convienient then how many can fit on it or how much of songs can I put on it.. just idk for curiosity.. still I like dsi xl and 2ds sustems having built in speakers and an sd slot for mere all in one sort of speaker or headphone use ability and decent for soem scenarios loud enough volume for music... and ability to with a minite or two of time to prep.. take a selfie lmao... well with myself and mom and neice and inevitably terrible by comparison to a studio or actual non amature as all hell but still putting in.. meh some kind of somewhat level of effort into it XD.. but man the dillemas of a cd too badly to not be non notable/noteworthy of a amount of scuffed or micro cracks from manually loading a in bed portabke for not feeling like oh so much inconvienience of hookups with a tv and seperate player thing.. dvd player that thus involves a lid that pops up and... oml this seriously ages me to even think it needed or is even POSSOBLE for this to seem unrelatable/unfathomable.. if it did not have me painting a picture so to speak. Ughh... mmmm nnnn mann this just oh an then trynna study and decide on the course of action for bacling up a precise model/specific model of camcorder from fairly pretty modern well from 2015?ish or 2016 imo but released to the world in 2014.. yeah they continue to stall/stagnate in new tech releases or price drpps of newer models of camcorder below several hundred usd over the 2 or 5 or in between that many hundred usd but.. fwow yeah even a well ok of being picky about brand hehe... then maybe ya can say it still costs a few grand for a 4k camcorder much less an 8 or if existant beyond studio equipment 12k model.
@@VideoMatoran also pancake can be healthy.. heck I mean who can say if is NOT at least... poooossible forvevenvan ice cream sandwitch to be healthy or healthy ish.. for even maybe a few I mean like... yeah ngl that seens a little far fetched
I felt a deep set of dread after that lobotomy scene. How wicked science was.
That wasn't science. That was jumping the gun with a few results not looking at the long term
The scientific community was critical of lobotomy, even around the time of its inception. It was developed by a Portuguese surgeon, Antonio Egas Moniz, and though he earned a Nobel Prize for it, there were already concerns about its safety and if it even helped the patient at all.
In America anyway, the ice pick lobotomies you hear about were done by a practitioner named Walter Jackson Freeman II. He would often perform them carelessly, for publicity, and sometimes without a diagnosis (in the case of Howard Dully). Many people died under his care. His work partner, Watts, who also performed lobotomies, was horrified by the invention of the ice pick method, and parted ways with Freeman over it.
Even "properly" done lobotomies drew in scrutiny, mostly due to the lack of efficacy, and the extreme damage to the patient. With the development of psychiatric medication, the lobotomy was phased out, but was still performed in marginal numbers (last resort scenarios) until the early 1980's.
@@Moho_braccatus_ Same ikr.. fr fwiw true true fr... sadly so but a sad sad concept... but it is true unfortuanetly... like all I know is that for sure it is some type of real messed up stuff fr
CrackerJack dying in December 44 is so tragic since its implied he fought in Europe and by then most people knew the war in Europe was coming to an end. Another gut punch in a show full of them.
If I was cracker Jack I wouldn't have joined instead I would have just stayed out of world war 2. 😉
GREAT KITTY MONK BOJACK HORSEMAN DEATH ☠ OF HONEY 🍯 SUGARMAN VIDEO ESSAY,
The Battle of the Bulge started in December 1944 at that time, it was not known if the offensive was a desperate attempt by a weaken army or an offensive by an army that was regrouping and consolidating its strengths
The hardest thing to do or realize you and your parents are victims in the same cycle… it doesn’t excuse the abuse and it doesn’t take away the damage done. It’s just a very emotional part of the whole story. It’s beyond words…
Edit: that’s something I’m still coming to terms with :(
I would love to see a what if episode where Crackerjack lived
As much as I want it to be happy, I doubt the Sugarmans would be happy. I mean, Crackerjack probably got some sort of trauma from the war and if the friendly fire is correct, I doubt anyone can recover from accidentally killing your friends.
@@ifeeldead463i honestly doubt that friendly fire was accurate, Bojack maybe is lying to himself about it and he didn't had a way to know it
Interesting how we never learn the details of butterscotches death like how we put soldiers on pedestals and the forget about them just as quickly
Bojack is surprised by the fact that Crackerjack didn’t kill anyone outside of friendly fire (meaning he didn’t hear this information in the real world), so that’s probably not the truth
I found out that I had to aunt on my biological father's side who had serious special needs & other issues that got what happened to Rosemary Kennedy to happen to her although they beyond the point of actually covering up everything about her the only reason why I know of her is because my mother knew her kitty monk. 😡🤬😤😮💨😠😥💔😨😰😓😢
She was even all the way removed from his family tree kitty monk.
&my biological father & his family tried to do the same to me kitty. 🤬😢
"I remember death so much its like a memory no beat no sound no melody" good call back to Hamilton
I honestly didn't even realize Honey was in Time's Arrow (physically). I thought she had died at the summer home bombing hinted at the end of The Old Sugarman Place. Actually, perhaps she did, and the scenes of her we see in Time's Arrow are actually just Beatrice being haunted by her memory.
Dang, I clearly need to rewatch. I didn't realize that her death was implied.
bombing?
Beatrice confirms in times arrow that her mother is alive physically, but not mentally.
10:09 I had red blanket with dalmatian puppies on it that I simply named "Puppy Blanket." So, yes, people name blankets.
101 Dalmatians?
I think the "promise me you'll never love someone" thing is partially a red herring, and partially more of a metaphor. Like, while Beatrice probably didn't intend to follow through on a promise she made when she was a small child, what DID happen is that since Beatrice didn't have anyone who loved her, she never really learned how to show love in return. Especially not unconditional love you expect a parent to give their child. Again, not to excuse her awful parenting, I just say this as someone who's family has generational trauma that's probably even more fucked up than Bojack's. One of my aunt's insisted on refusing to take responsibility for the way she treated her kids, by telling me "well my mother didn't tell me she loved me". Similar to Beatrice, I'm sure my aunt never felt loved by anyone (her older siblings treated her like shit, her father left the family and remarried, her ailing mother died when she was young, my mother (her younger sister) cared about her but by then my aunt was a very unhappy person and didn't reciprocate with anything beyond bullying) and so going forward, she didn't know how to love her own kids and never tried to learn how. Beatrice is very similar. ...Though honestly with the things my aunt did, I'd say even Beatrice was a better mother than her.
Beatrice telling Bojack "I hope you die before I do so you never know what it's like to lose a mother" makes me feel like she did take Honey's words to heart, wether she meant to or not. She must have felt some sympathy for Bojack from that statement but was too scared to love him because loving Crackerjack caused her mom to lose her braim
@@user-pi3hd2bt3f But not loving him caused him in spirit to lose a mother anyway. Seriously, this family is messed up when it comes to love.
@@92JazzQueen most ppl domt think that far tho, even in real life. Most people think "you cant miss what you never had" or "your mother is at least there and breathing"
@@user-pi3hd2bt3f Oi.
My baby blanket growing up had a name I never told anyone, Chester. Sad story, but hear me out: I had a beautiful silver Maine Coon cat Damien who passed away and I buried him in Chester as a send off, wanting the last thing for my cat to experience was Chester’s hugs before we buried him. I used to wrap Damien in Chester and he loved being in a purrito (I figured this out on my own at 9, in 2001). So I knew when Crackerjack gave Beatrice his blanket he was going to die. That to me was bigger foreshadowing than the song.
The sugarman family seem sexist even by old standards. I dont see anyone else at that time consider ice cream a boy snack. I know veing thin and pretty was emphasized but they also dont mind enjoying ice cream as a treat for women. And again the 🥞 probably at least in a regular family have three at most for her. Also another reason why so much pancakes for joseph is horses eat a lot.
No, they're not. Just because you don't see it, it doesn't mean it didn't exist. Most everything they did was standard proxy before the Civil Rights efforts of the 1960's.
@@DanielleCapichano Again sexism and other isms were things. But also I tend to think people use exaggerated examples to get points across to demonstrate differences in attitudes. Seriously, I would think even back then for the focus on staying thin with girls they would think it's restrictive to have no pancakes or ice cream at all.
It's exaggerated on purpose both for comedic effect, and because the scene revolves around and showing Beatrice, as a child. It's meant to be extreme because that's what it would feel like to a child in their formative years.
You'd be surprised, my family shows a LOT of the same traits as the Sugarman family. As a child, I would be told that I couldn't eat this/that, I couldn't wear this/that, I couldn't watch this/that because it was "unladylike". (I even have memories of being told I couldn't eat ice cream while spending time with my grandmother because it would "fatten me up".) While I was chubby (pre-puberty), I had older family members trying to push supplements and diet plans just as Beatrice had been pressured to do so. Many values of the time are still trickling down for a lot of families; some desperately grasping harder than others. Thankfully, I haven't shared this experience with too many people; indicating that these ideas may have already been dropped for decades, by many.
No, it was said in the show by Honey that ice cream was a bay's snack. Also, I lived during the 90s and 2000s and everyone was obsessed with being thin as a rail. And during the decades of the 50s 40s and so on thinness was emphasized a lot.
Though, I'm not sure about if ice cream was considered not acceptable for women to eat, but if you are not a fan of woman you were given a lot of crap
Life didn't give us lemons
we the fools that we are, made them
It's a combination of a bitter orange and a Citron
"Enjoy your dumb little TV show.." That's COLD BLOODED 😂😂
I've been in the army for 8 years. If my uterus was gonna rupture it would have been a long time ago lol.
Haha that reminds me when I used to work as a cleaner sometimes I had to move heavy objects and all the older ladies were would tell me to call over one of the guys to do it because then I wouldn’t harm my uterus. They said it with such concern too.
More sexist lies. Sexism is one of the things that makes me SO MAD that I feel like I should be able to shoot lightning out of my hands.
Uterus.... lol lile the "uter-room" from Bobs Burgers.
EXCELLENT WORK. KITTY MONK BOJACK HORSEMAN VIDEO
I honestly think we have to take halfway down with a of grain of salt ad we don't know how much truth there is a Bojack was in a coma so it's possible he's hallucinated everything and there is no way to confirm Bojack know much about his uncle or what happened we also can't rely on Beatrice as a reliable narrator due to her dimension
To add to this, herb tells Bojack, "it's just your brain going through what it needs to go through."
The Robbin sparkle’s reference is truly everything kitty
Uterus was the perfect word for this lol
6:50 'Cause I have thirty thousand dollars in credit card debt.
When they call, I tell them I can't pay it back yet.
You know. It still feels like you can feel the pain leftover from the 50s 60s and WW2. Like the way people standardized each other still lingers from that time. Emotionally, physically, and mentally. Everything was different for the time. But still echos now too.
Uterus!
6:06-6:10 There`s actually a risk of it happening, my mom being the prime example. She got hers removed last year due to all the heavy lifting she had to do for 20+ years.
And she constantly warns me not to lift anything heavy due to being worried about my health, like an actual mother would do, just like Honey did with Beatrice - it`s really not the subject to be laughed at.
Oh wow. I didn't know that was a real thing. Thanks for the PSA actually. Sorry about your mom though ):
So it ain't actually sexist. Man.
I enjoyed another one of your bojack videos, and this one I imagine will be great as well. Subscribed :)
I love how Kitty Monk add in bits of "take care of yourself, you are important" 🖤
And because of your recent Bojack videos, I've convinced my husband to watch it! So thank you!
25:07 it doesn't even make sense from the doctors perspective! Like shouldn't you stop cutting the brain BEFORE she becomes incoherent?!!
I'm writing a story that is somewhat inspired by Rosemary Kennedy in the sense that it's about a disabled person (specifically an autistic person) who is born into a prestigious family and the bigotry and injustice they receive from said family due to the ableism that is imbedded into their mindsets.
Robert Kennedy needs to be made into more villainous father archetypes. He's a pos.
@@92JazzQueenWell, naturally.
Sounds interesting, though is it going to end in a lobotomy ?
@@seeleunit2000 No
Im going to be completely honest whem i first saw one of your videos i thought it was annoying and i clicked off.i got suggested another one of your videos and watched it and now its something i like to watch every morning before work. Keep up the hard work and i cant wait to see whats next
every time you use a helluva boss clip I'm so damn happy
my baby blankey was called my "woobie"!
Bojack being Beatrice’s Renesmee made me laugh 11:28
Not really. The name Bojack is actually a surname.
Uterus
I still sleep with stuffed animals too Kitty
''uterus!"
Crackerjack actually literally means like good, exceptional, bojack means less than, not good enough, not living up to. It was probably pretty commonly used at the time of Crackerjacks deployment, i think.
the hazbin hotel reference gave me a heart attack
TWO BEAVERS R BETTER THAN ONE, TWICE THE FUN, ASK ANYONE!!! 🇨🇦
Okay, Off-Topic; Were Introverts Stigmatised and/or Oppressed to some Degree back in the 20th Century?
" okay enough me being a great mom im gonna go hide your fathers heart medication "- Beatrice GOD DAMN SHES A SAVAGE this is still sad the fact that she would kill him to get out of that marriage is sad
Like a said part one part two as a double feature
lol never thought I'd hear a Robin Sparkles reference in a BoJack Horseman video😂😭
Uterus?
They didn’t have to be skinny but have a good figure which didn’t mean skinny as a rail
honey is just like my mom frfr
I actually had a do a purge of almost of my books & mangas & movies & my cds& stuffed animals but i managed to save most of them kitty& one was two stuffed wolves kitty monk. ❤️🐺🐺❤️
You're creepy as fuck
@@foxiesque3352How is that creepy ?
Uterus is a funny word to say.😂
How i met your mother mentioned 😮
joseph got the biggest L by losing his 10/10 wife right after his only son died, what a dummy
I think you need to do research about the 1940s
What would you have to say regarding bojak and the 40's. Genuinely curious
uterus!
Well idk of givong a person cards on wjat to say is bad..but by far I guess if in all honesty maybe because I am only thinking of it when compared to the surgeries of the time then.. dang just realized even pennicillin would have been bareky an idea if even existant.. it feels surreal tbh how.. so much can change with just a few years in any goven era.. with a ,ajor breakthrough of milestones.. well pk some not so much for the best but.. some like cures for stuff an SAFE procedures like.. non wooden dentures and non transplanted teeth etc.. an even apparently now heart transplants and stuff exists.. from a MS oin I recall seeing stating the Missippi hospital had the first sucessful... well odk some type of organ transplant possibly from a pig to a person even not just pne person to another...
But yeah unsterile transfusion and or match melting wounds closed as "cauterizing" still feels pretty grim fwiw even despite being loght years ahead of civil war days but at the very same time.. light years BACK in time from modern day stuff... pfft evne the 70s or even 80s or 90s medical practices have improved in the last ten or twety years with stuff like.. odk invisalign is all I can tjink of rn.. besides like well yeah.. an maybe not medical needed perse.. but..uh "Grillz" exist well ok even if brief in fads.. of the 00s but... still supris9ng how fwiw if it was a presidential family thing then that it COULD have been kept out of publoc knowledge for even brief time spans. 26:28 also hehe uh.. I am glad Kat covered that point for I had literally that very question in my head just then..
8:59 hazbin reference?
how I met your mouther reference? when we getting a video
It’s possible Honey did have a nurse
🗣UTERUS!!!
Getting lobotomy sucks.
10:50 ew???
A lot of the stuff I’ve read seems to suggest that supposed limitations on lifestyle options were almost entirely by choice. The modern revisionist history narrative suggesting that we simply weren’t allowed to be anything other than wives and mothers requires that we erase the numerous female college professors, politicians, royalty, CEO’s, doctors, police, inventors, and engineers. Choosing the path of least resistance or following your biological imperatives can leave you feeling dissatisfied with you accomplishments later in life. As a result, lots of people want to tell themselves that they’ve been victimized and were held back from success. The sad part is that building and maintaining a happy family is an AMAZING accomplishment. All those female CEOs and doctors are desperately jealous of those who chose the lifestyle we want to call a prison. If you want to do something, do it. Don’t blame society and try to erase the accomplishments of all of the amazing women who came before you.
Neglecting how those woman were treated in every one of those careers shouldn't be neglected either. I get being chafed at the idea that people were and still are limited by life, expectation & legality, but its kinda weird to argue that people weren't influenced by it as a whole. People choose the options they actually have, and as far as "following biological imperatives" is it worth all that much in a system that doesn't actually serve those thing as goals only punishments?
... Sounds like to me you're full of crap. It also sounds like, you don't want to have to factor in certain societal expectations and how many women have suffered sacrifice to be able to have the jobs they have now.
Just like a misogynistic Incel would
@@kathleenwoods8416... That other guy is full of crap. He's just talking nonsense, because he's trying to hide the fact he's a misogynistic piece of garbage and wants to make an excuses for why women should be stuck barefoot and pregnant at the house
u to rus
7:44
Wait what the fuck?
Good you added ,,to me” xD
Beside it
Very good video i enjoyed it a lot. Im happy to see people still do analysis about Bojack :D
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