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You have been missed, sir! Only you can approach this case with class and dignity, not the low-hanging fruit of sensationalism. I could feel the horror and the history unfold. As always it's been a pleasure.
@TheyGotAwayWithMurder I listen to your episode on the Odessa murder over and over. You would've put that sob on the electric chair if you were the prosecutor. Your Shepherd murder episode is also excellent. It's a shame that you aren't a trial lawyer AFAIK.
The dynamic of the relationship between the sailors here is so troubling. This was a boy who had been through so much already, with being orphaned and then fostered. He was young in an age when the young were cowed into submission by their elders. The older sailors decided that their lives were worth more and that this boy was disposable. And his response: "what? Me sir?" seems so tragically respectful of these murderers. He was probably dying anyway, and they could have got what they needed without doing this. But they betrayed this poor boy. What a terrible story
@@cheesecakecielecina6741 Yes, I absolutely do have the same attitude towards the victims of 50 years of mslm grooming gangs in UK towns who have been silenced and totally let down by the police, judiciary, politicians and social workers as well as the media. I also feel the same way about the millions of victims of modern slavery, the silent millions of victims of abortion ... and all the similarly "unfashionable" victims. But I chose to write a comment about the video, which isn't about any of that..
I religiously re listen to your episodes -- fascinating, so well researched, superbly narrated and now a total go to comfort thing. So thank you for your work and content! ❤
I am an old Neuropsychiatrist, raised by Attorneys. This story thrilled me. I was afraid of the general topic. You dealt with it in a thoughtful way, but taking an extremely complex issue and condensing into easily digestible parts (play on words intended), was so elegant ! Masterful Indeed !
Thank you very much, David - I am truly delighted you thought so highly of it! I share your trepidation at the subject matter - it is very much the stuff of horror stories, but it seemed to be such an interesting case, legally and philosophically, I wanted to include it in the canon!
This was the most difficult case to date, Mark! I was swinging back and forth as you made the arguments. So glad I will never be in the position of these four people. Peaceful seasons greetings.
@@TheyGotAwayWithMurder Very much so! This one was o in depth with many twists and turns. Im fascinated by the plethora of opinions that evolved out of this human sociological enigma.
Thank you ever so much for this! On a five hour train journey in Scandinavia - exactly what I need! I hope you’re having a pleasant and magical December ✨
@@anniethemese1215 A lot of the time it's just forest next to the train, with the occasional lake. It's pretty, but not exactly interesting to watch for five hours.
Dear, oh dear, oh dear. What a sad and sorry tale. As you spoke several other issues attempted to clarify in my thinking about legal procedures and how they can appear so long-winded and counter-productive that the initial anger and frustration generated to bring these events in front of the "law' in the hope of finding justice seldom brings anything tangible. The Hillsborough Disaster, Post Office Scandals and the Lucy Letby cases in particular spring to mind. We can but hope that somehow the poor folk who have struggled through being faced with what must seem like the whole system playing Devil's Advocate against them can manage to make things better in the future for others - not that there's much comfort to be gained from that though I am sure. Thank you for these sobering thoughts. ❤
Thank you - I think the system has become much worse for an individual now. The whole process has become so long-winded and painstakingly slow that a person can spend years navigating through the processes...
For me, this was the most distressing case you have covered. Oh that poor boy realising they were about to slaughter him… just ghastly. Wonderfully narrated and comprehensively discussed, as always.
Another gem! This is truly an extraordinary story! Apparently, man can do anything in order to survive. A moral quandary! So tragic that this seventeen- year old boy would have his life taken away from him against his will...I love your videos and analysis of every incident you cover. As usual this video has a sophisticated legal analysis. Thank you, Mark, for this thoughtfully and well presented case of maritime tragedy .
John, you are the best. You are also the only one whose video starting with “Cannibalism”... I would ever have wanted to watch/ listen to. Indeed, I think you could have dispensed with that keyword as all of us following your channel will listen to your cases, whether they are “Death by comfy chair” or “How to assemble an Ikea couch”. And I forgive you for the fact that now, RUclips keeps suggesting all these cannibalism clips to me. What happened is, after all, fact. Excellent storytelling as ever.
Many thanks - my apologies you are now inundated with cannibalism videos! I know how annoying it is when you watch a video on, say, a leaking tap, and youtube besieges you with plumbing videos! Perhaps your mentioning ikea in your comment will start off a whole new raft of suggestions on furniture now...
Just finished a hellish week and I'm happy to see a new video from this channel! I'm going to watch AFTER dinner. I find it humorous though that only Mr. Maguire can make the topic less distasteful with his class and wisdom.
Additional speculation!!! If the ship hadn't have come along, I guess Brooks would have been next. Dudley and Stephens would have been planning it well in advance. Then there would be 2 left. 2 starving, thirsty cannibals in a small boat, watching each other, not daring to turn their backs or sleep... it would make a great tense short story, Mark! If a tad gruesome for your Short Stories for Dark Nights channel...!!! xx
Hi Mark! Thank you for tgis story. It is so terribly sad, I feel so sad for that por boy, Richard Park! I knew this story, but you telling it with such respect and sadness made me lose my sleep (it is 2:50 am here). He had his whole life ahead of him, I wonder what he could had become had he lived that brutal times and people. Best regards.
Thank you very much, Cristina - I agree, it is always the saddest thing when a young person dies before their time. Sorry to make you lose your sleep, but glad you thought it worth losing sleep for!
Mark, you exceeded my expectations with this story. i've heard this depressing and grusum tail several times. i didn't think there was much more i could learn from it, so i was less than enthusiastic about watching it. Mea culpa for my lack of faith. As with all of Your stories, You expanded the breadth and depth of it enormously. Especially with Your indepth analysis of it's implications to the legal system. Fascinating! You personally have taught me more about English common law and legal system, hence the American legal system, than anyone else ever has. Not to mention a good deal of Psychology and Sociology as well. Thank You. i look forward to whatever You have for us next !:-)
Thank you very much indeed, Barry! I worry about covering cases that are so well-known because I presume people won't want to hear the same story over and over - but having read your comment above I am so delighted that I feel my work is done! Many thanks!
Another excellent story, well told as only Mark John McGuire can tell a tale! I've heard this story before, but you are the best at helping us understand the circumstances and conditions of the case. Being a big fan of Poe, I found the coincidence of his story seeming to foretell the real-life case eerie
Brilliantly analyzed. As always. Every State in the US has a statute codifying the defense of necessity. The statutes tend to anticipate trespassing more than literal cannibalism. Aon had a tremendous disparity in bonus money between revenue credit and resource credit. A resource credit unit might have occasionally cast on eye on a plump accounting technician during bonus season. I'm not sure anyone was carved up, but there were intense discussions. I am proud of Aon for having almost certainly rejected cannibalism. Wonderful episode. Thank you..
Many thanks again Robert - trespassing is a great example of necessity. It is hard to find an example in English law - I initially included a paragraph about speeding in a medical emergency, on the assumption that such a minor infraction of the traffic laws would be excused by necessity...but it seems people are still taken to court for speeding to a medical emergency, and had to remove it! Very amusing application to a financial institution!
Outstanding! Got off work about an hour ago. Sitting here trying to find something to watch...and then BAM! This popped up. A most excellent choice. Wishing you and your family a Merry Christmas & Happiest New Year.😊
I have always thought they chose poor Richard Parker because he was ill and not able to fight back. It was pure self interest as to why he was chosen as you say. I agree with all of your conclusions. I would never want to be in their position but the idea of eating human flesh nauseates me. Rest in peace, young Richard. You are not forgotten.
Absolutely, Fiona - I cannot fathom how horrible this would be. I hope I am never in such a position too - but I think I would prefer to throw myself in the sea!
They had been at sea for only twenty four days. Even people who go on hunger strike voluntarily can live well beyond sixty days before becoming irremediably ill.
I'm delighted to see your return. You have been missed by many I note, understandably. Another absorbing story, very sad and one which poses very difficult questions indeed. Thank you Mark.
As a child in late 1960s I visited the memorial to the unfortunate Richard Parker. I had a school friend of the same surname who said he was related to Richard’s family. The stone is still there and tended to.
Thank you, Louise - it was a predicament! One for the men, and then for the judge and juries and authorities too... Thankfully fairly rare! And what a pickle you'd be in if you happened to be vegetarian!!!
@@TheyGotAwayWithMurder i am so lucky to have been born in the 60 s and not before, thankfully we live in a more humane society..ps im not vegetarian heheheh :)
PS. It should be kept in mind that the case further collides with the 'un-British' act of cannibalism, which Victorian England couldn't deal with. This negation of 'the last resort' at sea was incompatible with Christian decorum, as perfectly illustrated in the frantic denial of evidence of cannibalism on the John Franklin Expedition.
Great to have you back! An early Christmas present for sure. So well written that I can listen to your content more than once. Keep up the amazing work and all the best wishes of the season to you!!
What a terrible situation to find oneself in. Adrift at sea, malnourished and dehydrated, with little expectancy of survival or rescue. What to do? My sympathies are with the young cabin boy but by the same token the actions of Dudley and Stephens are also quite understandable. Survival of the fittest and all that. Would they have survived those four additional days till rescue without the death of Parker, who, by accounts was nearing the end anyway. A conundrum to be sure. Great story as always Mr Maguire.
Many thanks, Peter - I agree. I can quite understand why previous occasions like this had fallen by the wayside - the issues are so difficult and all points of view seem valid in one way or another...
Fascinating! I've heard of/read this story before but never discussed and explored so intelligently and with such legal and moral depth. Poor Richard Parker - he clearly thought that they had drawn straws and he was the unlucky one, when of course they'd done nothing of the kind. Dudley was a monster. In these circumstances, I always think "why do they have to kill somebody? why not just amputate an arm/leg and share that out (after drawing straws) and then the remaining 3 draw the next lot of straws etc, so that they have a chance of all surviving, even if they have lost a limb or two?" Thanks very much, I really enjoyed (not sure if that's the right word!) this one, because the moral discussion was so interesting. xx
@@janetpendlebury6808 Perhaps. I guess it wouldn't have been satisfactory to the others because they wanted his blood - they "thirsted" for it. Which is why they killed him by a knife to the jugular then ex-sanguinated him. Gruesome. Poor Richard.
Thank you very much, Mel - not sure I like the idea of cutting off an arm or a leg any better! So many issues in this case - you know how fussy I am about my food - and I wonder how the men managed to eat meat again...
@TheyGotAwayWithMurder It always amazes me when you respond even with all your subs and obviously a busy schedule. Thanks, you have made my day, and I look forward to your future work.
Horrible weather outside but I get to relax in the comfort of my home with one of your always excellent true murder tales. Doesn't get much better than that. 👍
We miss u so much tell us where you ❤❤been.Glad to have u back I miss u so much I keep checking and checking any short stories Wishing u GOD blessings Glad to have u back ❤😂😅
Dear Sir, I am glad to hear that your studio audience disapproves of the last skit as strongly as I. As a naval officer I abhor the implication that the Royal Navy is a haven for cannibalism. It is well known that we have the problem relatively under control, and that it is the RAF who now suffer the largest casualties in this area. And what do you think the Argylls ate in Aden. Arabs? Yours etc. Captain B.J. Smethwick in a white wine sauce with shallots, mushrooms and garlic.
Why did they confess to the murder? They could have pushed the body overboard before the rescuers arrived and said he died naturally. They must have been confident that they would not be charged with murder but 'the custom of the sea' would prevail. Surprising that Parker's brother shook hands with them, even though he was after money.
I was supposed to attend the reading of my aunt bertie's will tonight. She died with 70mil in her account. Screw it, I'd rather stay home and listen to MJM.
Oh wow, Richard Parker has a memorial at Peartree church in Woolston Southampton a short distance from where I live atm. I lived in woolston as a child a knew the church well, as part of a Annexe of the school I attended, so have seen the memorial. Always a tale that intrigued me. We have quite a bit of maritime history here including the Titanic museum! Double wow, new book too!
Thank you, Susie - yes, I believe the original memorial stone (which I show at the end of the video) is now placed in the church itself, and a new memorial stone is outside which features the same inscription.
I know a fascinating story. "Milton Terra Verdi". There's a book with his notes after him and his brother-in-law got lost in a jungle after their plain fell. Real story. I've never complained about anything in life after reading his diary. There's a book called "Diary of Death." I read it when I was a teen.
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You have been missed, sir! Only you can approach this case with class and dignity, not the low-hanging fruit of sensationalism. I could feel the horror and the history unfold. As always it's been a pleasure.
That is a wonderful testimonial - thank you Craig!
@TheyGotAwayWithMurder
I listen to your episode on the Odessa murder over and over. You would've put that sob on the electric chair if you were the prosecutor.
Your Shepherd murder episode is also excellent.
It's a shame that you aren't a trial lawyer AFAIK.
The dynamic of the relationship between the sailors here is so troubling. This was a boy who had been through so much already, with being orphaned and then fostered. He was young in an age when the young were cowed into submission by their elders. The older sailors decided that their lives were worth more and that this boy was disposable. And his response: "what? Me sir?" seems so tragically respectful of these murderers. He was probably dying anyway, and they could have got what they needed without doing this. But they betrayed this poor boy. What a terrible story
I agree
I quite agree, Sarah - the first responsibility of these men was to the boy in their midst.
One wonders if you have the same attitude to Grooming Gang victims throughout England.....
@@cheesecakecielecina6741 Yes, I absolutely do have the same attitude towards the victims of 50 years of mslm grooming gangs in UK towns who have been silenced and totally let down by the police, judiciary, politicians and social workers as well as the media. I also feel the same way about the millions of victims of modern slavery, the silent millions of victims of abortion ... and all the similarly "unfashionable" victims. But I chose to write a comment about the video, which isn't about any of that..
Missed you Mr. Maguire glad you’re back!!!
Many thanks!
I religiously re listen to your episodes -- fascinating, so well researched, superbly narrated and now a total go to comfort thing. So thank you for your work and content! ❤
I too. I am listening in Texas
I studied this case in law school. It's one of those seminal cases in common law jurisdictions that established a central principle of criminal law.
I am an old Neuropsychiatrist, raised by Attorneys. This story thrilled me. I was afraid of the general topic.
You dealt with it in a thoughtful way, but taking an extremely complex issue and condensing into easily digestible parts (play on words intended), was so elegant ! Masterful Indeed !
Thank you very much, David - I am truly delighted you thought so highly of it! I share your trepidation at the subject matter - it is very much the stuff of horror stories, but it seemed to be such an interesting case, legally and philosophically, I wanted to include it in the canon!
Thank you, Mr. Maguire. Your eloquent and masterfully created narratives are a tonic for the soul, however troubling the subject-matter.
I try my best, Ruth - thank you!
This was the most difficult case to date, Mark! I was swinging back and forth as you made the arguments. So glad I will never be in the position of these four people. Peaceful seasons greetings.
Thank you - and very best greetings for the season for you and yours too.
Oh my gosh! Christmas has come early with a new video from my favourite author! Thank you ❤❤❤
I check every day, just in case! So exciting when I see a new post by you, Mark! Perfect timing. Thank you, sir! (Will order the book today!)
Thank you very much, Margaret - I'm delighted you'll be getting the book too! :)
@ Book arriving Sunday!😊
@@margaretlindner2703 Wow - that is quick! I am certain you have bought the first copy!
Wonderful December surprise! Welcome back. I’ll do as I always do: hold off on listening until the evening kettle has whistled.
Thank you, Fred - I hope you enjoyed it!
@@TheyGotAwayWithMurder Very much so! This one was o in depth with many twists and turns. Im fascinated by the plethora of opinions that evolved out of this human sociological enigma.
How wickedly wonderful , a sort of early Christmas present for those who will not get one.
Merry Christmas John.
Thank you, Tony - I wish you a merry Christmas also - although I hope to make a short christmas video a few days before Christmas to send greetings.
Thank you ever so much for this! On a five hour train journey in Scandinavia - exactly what I need! I hope you’re having a pleasant and magical December ✨
Oh wow! I'd be glued to the scenery! No offence to your good self, Mark.
I can see it in my mind's eye - here it is unfortunately a rather stormy but typical December for this part of the country!
@@anniethemese1215 A lot of the time it's just forest next to the train, with the occasional lake. It's pretty, but not exactly interesting to watch for five hours.
This case brings up so many questions - thank you Mark We don't know how we'd act until we are in that situation
Yes indeed - it is a frightening thing to see what people can be reduced to...
Another absorbing story. Many thanks for uploading.
I haven't seen you in my feed in awhile Mark, happy to see you back!
Thank you - it has been longer than I would have wished!
Like water in the desert, these essays satisfy a life giving dose of civility and even-handed narrative. Good times , thank you, Mark
A lovely comment - thank you, Grace!
Glad to see you back with your telling of a crime.😢😮 RIP RICHARD. That's before Titantic wow.
Thank you, Sally - the last days of sail...
Dear, oh dear, oh dear. What a sad and sorry tale. As you spoke several other issues attempted to clarify in my thinking about legal procedures and how they can appear so long-winded and counter-productive that the initial anger and frustration generated to bring these events in front of the "law' in the hope of finding justice seldom brings anything tangible. The Hillsborough Disaster, Post Office Scandals and the Lucy Letby cases in particular spring to mind. We can but hope that somehow the poor folk who have struggled through being faced with what must seem like the whole system playing Devil's Advocate against them can manage to make things better in the future for others - not that there's much comfort to be gained from that though I am sure. Thank you for these sobering thoughts. ❤
Thank you - I think the system has become much worse for an individual now. The whole process has become so long-winded and painstakingly slow that a person can spend years navigating through the processes...
This is one of your finest episodes to date, Mark. Bravo!
Many thanks indeed, Andy!
For me, this was the most distressing case you have covered. Oh that poor boy realising they were about to slaughter him… just ghastly. Wonderfully narrated and comprehensively discussed, as always.
Many thanks, Dorthy - Yes, it is a horrible one, amongst many horrible cases.
Yay you’re back. I hope all is well.
Yes all is well, thank you - and I hope the same may be said of you!
Another gem! This is truly an extraordinary story! Apparently, man can do anything in order to survive. A moral quandary! So tragic that this seventeen- year old boy would have his life taken away from him against his will...I love your videos and analysis of every incident you cover. As usual this video has a sophisticated legal analysis. Thank you, Mark, for this thoughtfully and well presented case of maritime tragedy .
Many thanks, Madonna - a difficult case indeed! I am glad you appreciated it.
Nice to see you're back! I've missed your excellent videos 😊
Thank you, Melissa!
What a harrowing tale, told by the most eloquent of storytellers. Thank you for this, a captivating hour. You have been missed.
Ah, thank you very much - you're very kind!
I'm glad you're back Mark. I'm going to listen to this tonight, well done✨️☘️🙋♀️
Thank you, Finola - I hope you enjoyed it!
John, you are the best. You are also the only one whose video starting with “Cannibalism”... I would ever have wanted to watch/ listen to. Indeed, I think you could have dispensed with that keyword as all of us following your channel will listen to your cases, whether they are “Death by comfy chair” or “How to assemble an Ikea couch”. And I forgive you for the fact that now, RUclips keeps suggesting all these cannibalism clips to me. What happened is, after all, fact. Excellent storytelling as ever.
Many thanks - my apologies you are now inundated with cannibalism videos! I know how annoying it is when you watch a video on, say, a leaking tap, and youtube besieges you with plumbing videos! Perhaps your mentioning ikea in your comment will start off a whole new raft of suggestions on furniture now...
YAY! I'm saving this for bedtime tonight. Thanks.
You're welcome 😊
Just finished a hellish week and I'm happy to see a new video from this channel! I'm going to watch AFTER dinner. I find it humorous though that only Mr. Maguire can make the topic less distasteful with his class and wisdom.
You're very kind to say so, Michael - and I must say, I have felt a little queasy around mealtimes during my research of this case!
Additional speculation!!! If the ship hadn't have come along, I guess Brooks would have been next. Dudley and Stephens would have been planning it well in advance. Then there would be 2 left. 2 starving, thirsty cannibals in a small boat, watching each other, not daring to turn their backs or sleep... it would make a great tense short story, Mark! If a tad gruesome for your Short Stories for Dark Nights channel...!!! xx
Yes indeed
Thank you, Mel - yes, it would make a great short story. And two cannibals in boat would hardly get a wink of sleep!
Hi Mark! Thank you for tgis story. It is so terribly sad, I feel so sad for that por boy, Richard Park! I knew this story, but you telling it with such respect and sadness made me lose my sleep (it is 2:50 am here). He had his whole life ahead of him, I wonder what he could had become had he lived that brutal times and people. Best regards.
Thank you very much, Cristina - I agree, it is always the saddest thing when a young person dies before their time. Sorry to make you lose your sleep, but glad you thought it worth losing sleep for!
Mark, you exceeded my expectations with this story. i've heard this depressing and grusum tail several times. i didn't think there was much more i could learn from it, so i was less than enthusiastic about watching it. Mea culpa for my lack of faith. As with all of Your stories, You expanded the breadth and depth of it enormously. Especially with Your indepth analysis of it's implications to the legal system. Fascinating!
You personally have taught me more about English common law and legal system, hence the American legal system, than anyone else ever has. Not to mention a good deal of Psychology and Sociology as well. Thank You. i look forward to whatever You have for us next !:-)
Thank you very much indeed, Barry! I worry about covering cases that are so well-known because I presume people won't want to hear the same story over and over - but having read your comment above I am so delighted that I feel my work is done! Many thanks!
Another excellent story, well told as only Mark John McGuire can tell a tale! I've heard this story before, but you are the best at helping us understand the circumstances and conditions of the case. Being a big fan of Poe, I found the coincidence of his story seeming to foretell the real-life case eerie
Thank you very much, Merla!
Brilliantly analyzed. As always. Every State in the US has a statute codifying the defense of necessity. The statutes tend to anticipate trespassing more than literal cannibalism.
Aon had a tremendous disparity in bonus money between revenue credit and resource credit. A resource credit unit might have occasionally cast on eye on a plump accounting technician during bonus season. I'm not sure anyone was carved up, but there were intense discussions.
I am proud of Aon for having almost certainly rejected cannibalism.
Wonderful episode. Thank you..
Many thanks again Robert - trespassing is a great example of necessity. It is hard to find an example in English law - I initially included a paragraph about speeding in a medical emergency, on the assumption that such a minor infraction of the traffic laws would be excused by necessity...but it seems people are still taken to court for speeding to a medical emergency, and had to remove it! Very amusing application to a financial institution!
I shot off straight to Amazon as soon as you mentioned a new book! To be delivered Monday 9th December. New book and video, I am being spoilt! xx
That's lovely to hear - thank you very much!
@@TheyGotAwayWithMurder Received my book this morning, Looking forward to a good read x
This was quite gruesome, but I welcome your videos all the same. Thank you Mark.
Outstanding! Got off work about an hour ago. Sitting here trying to find something to watch...and then BAM! This popped up. A most excellent choice. Wishing you and your family a Merry Christmas & Happiest New Year.😊
I agree with the judge. The boy actually didn’t agree with the group … he said he wasn’t willing to kill or be killed! so therefore it was murder.
Unbelievable. 22 seconds in! A great Friday now!!
Thank you, Terri - you were quick off the mark!
@ 😄 Yes, indeed!
Fascinating story. Well researched and narrated. Makes you think. Thanks so much!
⛵ Thank you kindly, missed your voice, and hope you have a wonderful christmas 🎄 season. 🤗
Thank you! You too!
@@TheyGotAwayWithMurder Appreciate it.
Welcome back, I will listen to this tonight! What a treat 🥰
Excellent as always. Great story telling and the ability to make me think out of my norms. Thank you!!!
Than you very much, Melissa - I am delighted you appreciated it.
I have always thought they chose poor Richard Parker because he was ill and not able to fight back. It was pure self interest as to why he was chosen as you say. I agree with all of your conclusions. I would never want to be in their position but the idea of eating human flesh nauseates me. Rest in peace, young Richard. You are not forgotten.
Absolutely, Fiona - I cannot fathom how horrible this would be. I hope I am never in such a position too - but I think I would prefer to throw myself in the sea!
They had been at sea for only twenty four days. Even people who go on hunger strike voluntarily can live well beyond sixty days before becoming irremediably ill.
I'm delighted to see your return. You have been missed by many I note, understandably. Another absorbing story, very sad and one which poses very difficult questions indeed. Thank you Mark.
I might add that in retrospect, I probably should not have listened to the story whilst eating dinner this evening 😂
Thank you, Debby! Perhaps there should have been a warning at the beginning that this video may spoil your dinner!! :)
@TheyGotAwayWithMurder I won't hold it against you Mark, there is little which will really put me off a finely prepared dinner 😂❤
As a child in late 1960s I visited the memorial to the unfortunate Richard Parker. I had a school friend of the same surname who said he was related to Richard’s family. The stone is still there and tended to.
Nothing breaks my TGAWM withdrawl symptoms like a famous tale of cannibalism at sea as told by MJM...welcome back...!!!
Many thanks indeed!
So nice to see another superior upload Mark. This really was a terrible murder compared to many others you covered
Many thanks - compelling and terrible!
Greetings Mark. This video looks good, looking forward to see it later.
I was so glad to see your story today, well covered , very tragic, gosh what a predicament that must have been ..soo sad RIP Richard xxxxxxxxxxxx
Thank you, Louise - it was a predicament! One for the men, and then for the judge and juries and authorities too... Thankfully fairly rare! And what a pickle you'd be in if you happened to be vegetarian!!!
@@TheyGotAwayWithMurder i am so lucky to have been born in the 60 s and not before, thankfully we live in a more humane society..ps im not vegetarian heheheh :)
PS. It should be kept in mind that the case further collides with the 'un-British' act of cannibalism, which Victorian England couldn't deal with. This negation of 'the last resort' at sea was incompatible with Christian decorum, as perfectly illustrated in the frantic denial of evidence of cannibalism on the John Franklin Expedition.
What a story! Thank you for this channel. Greetings from Evergreen, Montana, USA. ❤❤❤❤
Great to have you back! An early Christmas present for sure. So well written that I can listen to your content more than once. Keep up the amazing work and all the best wishes of the season to you!!
What a terrible situation to find oneself in. Adrift at sea, malnourished and dehydrated, with little expectancy of survival or rescue. What to do? My sympathies are with the young cabin boy but by the same token the actions of Dudley and Stephens are also quite understandable. Survival of the fittest and all that. Would they have survived those four additional days till rescue without the death of Parker, who, by accounts was nearing the end anyway. A conundrum to be sure. Great story as always Mr Maguire.
Many thanks, Peter - I agree. I can quite understand why previous occasions like this had fallen by the wayside - the issues are so difficult and all points of view seem valid in one way or another...
Fabulous. Delighted to see a new episode. Thank you Mark.
My pleasure, Mattie - thank you!
You're back ! HOORAH ! xx
Thank you, Pamela!
I found this just a moment ago...knew you'd promised another one a few months ago. Hoping you are doing well.
I am surviving, Patricia - I hope you are also!
Thank you for covering this case.
Outstanding as always. Mr. Maguire gives me hope for the world yet.
Ah - you are very kind - thank you, Jared!
Good to have you back. You have been missed
Thank you, Geri!
Welcome back,Mr Maguire. We have missed you.
Thank you, Edward!
So very excited to see a new one out! Much love and appreciation! ❤
Thank you very much! I hope you enjoyed it!
What a fascinating story. Glad to see you back, Mark
Thank you, Pam!
Great writing and narration, both in equal measure.
Thank you very much - you are kind to say so!
I have just looked up the E.A. Poe crumb information. Wow, usually I'm just gullible. Well done sir !
Thank you!
I've been checking with you everyday! And now I missed it by 11 hours? 😢
Hello there glad to hear from you again 😅 another beautiful narration 👏 🙏
Thank you very much, Patience!
I am glad to see you again.. have missed you
So nice of you - thank you, Dawn!
Bentornato, Signor Maguire! Un piacere ascoltarla!
Mille grazie, Agostina!
Great to have a new episode, I look forward to them immensely.
That poor lad, it was definitely murder.
Thank you, Karen - yes, I believe it was.
Fascinating! I've heard of/read this story before but never discussed and explored so intelligently and with such legal and moral depth. Poor Richard Parker - he clearly thought that they had drawn straws and he was the unlucky one, when of course they'd done nothing of the kind. Dudley was a monster. In these circumstances, I always think "why do they have to kill somebody? why not just amputate an arm/leg and share that out (after drawing straws) and then the remaining 3 draw the next lot of straws etc, so that they have a chance of all surviving, even if they have lost a limb or two?" Thanks very much, I really enjoyed (not sure if that's the right word!) this one, because the moral discussion was so interesting. xx
Cutting off an arm or leg would have resulted in death in those circumstances.
@@janetpendlebury6808 Perhaps. I guess it wouldn't have been satisfactory to the others because they wanted his blood - they "thirsted" for it. Which is why they killed him by a knife to the jugular then ex-sanguinated him. Gruesome. Poor Richard.
Thank you very much, Mel - not sure I like the idea of cutting off an arm or a leg any better! So many issues in this case - you know how fussy I am about my food - and I wonder how the men managed to eat meat again...
Lovely to have you back!
Thanks Victoria!
Glad to see you back! Another great episode and I can't wait to read the new book!
Thank you very much, Barbara - I hope you enjoy the book too.
As usual, a well thought out narrative!
I'm so happy you're back. I hope everything is fine with you. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year's.
Many thanks, Denise - all is well and I hope with you also. All the best for Christmas!
❤❤ you're very talented....I wish I m was able to write like you❤❤🎉🎉
How very generous of you to say so, Stacey - thank you and God bless!
I sure have missed your stories, sir! Thank you for your work!
Thank you very much, Brandon - and your subsequent algorithmical comments! Thoughtful of you!
@TheyGotAwayWithMurder It always amazes me when you respond even with all your subs and obviously a busy schedule. Thanks, you have made my day, and I look forward to your future work.
Hello Mark ❤from Canada.
Hello from Texas
Hello Genny!
Hi Mark! So excited to listen to your story while I’m cleaning the house :-)
poor Richard. thank you for telling his story. love your work.✨
Thank you - I am delighted you do!
Absolutely fascinating thank you
Horrible weather outside but I get to relax in the comfort of my home with one of your always excellent true murder tales. Doesn't get much better than that. 👍
Thank you, Amanda - the weather is the same where I am, and I am dodging power cuts and internet outages and watching our roofs anxiously!
Great to see your return 👍
Thank you!
We miss u so much tell us where you ❤❤been.Glad to have u back I miss u so much I keep checking and checking any short stories Wishing u GOD blessings Glad to have u back ❤😂😅
Thank you very much, Eunice - yes, I am behind on the short stories too: I shall try to do one for next week on the other channel!
Glad to see yu again 🙌🏽💗
Thank you!
Hooray! I know what I’ll be watching tonight!
Truly amazing video ty
You're welcome - thank you!
Maybe if my first knowledge of the “custom of the sea” hadn’t come from a Monty Python sketch….
Dear Sir, I am glad to hear that your studio audience disapproves of the last skit as strongly as I. As a naval officer I abhor the implication that the Royal Navy is a haven for cannibalism. It is well known that we have the problem relatively under control, and that it is the RAF who now suffer the largest casualties in this area. And what do you think the Argylls ate in Aden. Arabs? Yours etc. Captain B.J. Smethwick in a white wine sauce with shallots, mushrooms and garlic.
Brings to mind the Issei Sagawa and Armin Meiwes cases of murder and cannibalism and being a voluntary victim.
Love your voice and accent, it's very soothing ❤
Thank you very much, Kira!
Yay, a new video thanks, Mark
Many thanks, Mark!
Why did they confess to the murder? They could have pushed the body overboard before the rescuers arrived and said he died naturally. They must have been confident that they would not be charged with murder but 'the custom of the sea' would prevail. Surprising that Parker's brother shook hands with them, even though he was after money.
I was supposed to attend the reading of my aunt bertie's will tonight. She died with 70mil in her account. Screw it, I'd rather stay home and listen to MJM.
I'm not sure of the wisdom of your choice - but thank you! ;)
They were all honest men, though
Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!❣
Excellent. Thank you very much . A very interesting video.
You have been sorely missed sir.
Thank you, Emily!
Oh wow, Richard Parker has a memorial at Peartree church in Woolston Southampton a short distance from where I live atm. I lived in woolston as a child a knew the church well, as part of a Annexe of the school I attended, so have seen the memorial. Always a tale that intrigued me. We have quite a bit of maritime history here including the Titanic museum! Double wow, new book too!
Thank you, Susie - yes, I believe the original memorial stone (which I show at the end of the video) is now placed in the church itself, and a new memorial stone is outside which features the same inscription.
I know a fascinating story. "Milton Terra Verdi". There's a book with his notes after him and his brother-in-law got lost in a jungle after their plain fell. Real story. I've never complained about anything in life after reading his diary.
There's a book called "Diary of Death." I read it when I was a teen.
That poor unfortunate child named *Richard Parker* w/ an unfortunate start in life w/out parents then to have done to him what was done💔