instead of struggling many years for the best grip, this is an excellent starting recipe for Chinese style, anyone can start and then develop his own grip, because this is basically correct grip, while training it will change according to many factors including hand structure, body structure, play style ... etc, for example, Ma Long and Zhang Jike, Fan Zhendong, Din Ning have really different grips, but they all share the same basics
Thanks a lot. My problem is, that when playing forehand strokes, I always tend to tense up, which results in a sharp pain after some time in the area of the palm connected to the thumb. I think the problem is the wrong position of the thumb - not on the handle as shown in the video, but on the rubber). Maybe that's the reason why I always tense up. I'll work on that and come back to tell you the results :)
First, Thank you for your tabletennis videos, I follow em for some time they make sense and they totally help me understandig how the game is played. i am playing for two years and on a pretty low amateur level, but i improve and i want to learn the most efficient technique from beginning. Rightnow i struggle with my grip trying to hold the bat correctly. especially with the thumb position, as i used to hold the bat not on the handle but over the handle on the rubber. when i keep holding on the handle (as described in your video) the forehand works great, but when i play backhand there are two inconveniences for me. firstly i have a way worse touch of the stroke. as long as i had the thumb on, at least the edge of, the rubber i had a way better feeling --> control while hitting the ball. If i keep holding with the thumb only on the handle (like the pros in your video) i have less feeling while hitting the ball. the other thing is that the angle to reach out for bh topspin is way less possible than with the grip i used to play. probably because i have large hands but i don´t know. i was hoping somebody can say something in this respect, as the coaches in my club teach obsolete techniques apparently. thx
this video is incorrect in it's explanation of grip. Notice how they illustrate their notion of the correct grip(thumb on handle)by showing only the forehand strokes of Zhang in this video. I have spoken to many good players and they all tell me that they put their thumb on the rubber for their backhand strokes. I myself do this to feel the ball better. even Zhang jike puts his thumb on the rubber for his backhand
Depending on the time you want to invest in you can change grip and yes there is enough time if you practice for it. Just the basic thinking, if you have time to change foot position it’s trivial to change for fingers position. Is it the most consistent? Depends on what consistent means. Since more power and spin will be more consistent, so you can change bh and forehand for example and have consistent stroke. But in other area it is not more consistent because pbviously changing grips in different position will increase inconsistencies.
You confuse parallel with perpendicular. The index finger is not parallel with the handle (as you state early in video) it is perpendicular. the index finger is parallel with the bottom of blade along the rubber "brand" info area. You do state that in text later in video.
This used to be called a BH grip, for players who changed their grip between BH and FH. What you are saying is, this is now the one and only grip and should not be changed between BH and FH?
Ma long switch grip on BH strokes with moving thumb on rubber to press racket with force, push. Look videos. There are some videos of changing grip of Ma Long. I watched a year later or long time ago, so i cant remember which video
does the blade curved part need to be in the web of your thumb and forefinger? because i can put my thumb on the handle to rest my thumb on it but should teh curve part of teh wood push into the web of your hand? (this may vary due to length of people thumbs and web
Is it possible to learn how to play with your finger 25°degrees up more from the standard grip of placing your finger parallel to the rubber at base of the blade. woulc this be acceptable if you could keep the grip consistent. I notice Waldner even does this on his forehand occasionally. I know because i have watched a few games in slow motion and noticed sometimes he does this possibly to get more spin and power. What do you think?
I don't follow him at 2:50. He says "Keep your wrist straight with your forearm and don't angle it up or down". Well, if you do it, then your paddle will be almost PERPENDICULAR to your forearm or the table when you hit the ball. But that's not what we see in pictures. In illustrations, we see the paddle being almost PARALLEL to the forearm and the table when the player attacks the ball. The only way to hit it like that (preserving the type of grip demonstrated) is to BEND your wrist downwards, so it won't be straight with the forearm
Have you tried to hold the racket like this when you make a forehand stroke? Most of pictures that you used to illustrate and explain the grip here might be just suitable for backhand hits but not right for forehand. In addition, as you said when the fingers close together, your wrist will be lost the flexibility and if it is too loosen, you will lose the consistency. Moreover, I tried to hold racket like this before, but it is not productivity like this video, and I have to change. I think the most important on table tennis grip are relax, comfortable.
instead of struggling many years for the best grip, this is an excellent starting recipe for Chinese style, anyone can start and then develop his own grip, because this is basically correct grip, while training it will change according to many factors including hand structure, body structure, play style ... etc, for example, Ma Long and Zhang Jike, Fan Zhendong, Din Ning have really different grips, but they all share the same basics
Thanks a lot. My problem is, that when playing forehand strokes, I always tend to tense up, which results in a sharp pain after some time in the area of the palm connected to the thumb. I think the problem is the wrong position of the thumb - not on the handle as shown in the video, but on the rubber). Maybe that's the reason why I always tense up.
I'll work on that and come back to tell you the results :)
First, Thank you for your tabletennis videos, I follow em for some time they make sense and they totally help me understandig how the game is played. i am playing for two years and on a pretty low amateur level, but i improve and i want to learn the most efficient technique from beginning.
Rightnow i struggle with my grip trying to hold the bat correctly. especially with the thumb position, as i used to hold the bat not on the handle but over the handle on the rubber. when i keep holding on the handle (as described in your video) the forehand works great, but when i play backhand there are two inconveniences for me. firstly i have a way worse touch of the stroke. as long as i had the thumb on, at least the edge of, the rubber i had a way better feeling --> control while hitting the ball. If i keep holding with the thumb only on the handle (like the pros in your video) i have less feeling while hitting the ball. the other thing is that the angle to reach out for bh topspin is way less possible than with the grip i used to play. probably because i have large hands but i don´t know. i was hoping somebody can say something in this respect, as the coaches in my club teach obsolete techniques apparently. thx
this video is incorrect in it's explanation of grip. Notice how they illustrate their notion of the correct grip(thumb on handle)by showing only the forehand strokes of Zhang in this video. I have spoken to many good players and they all tell me that they put their thumb on the rubber for their backhand strokes. I myself do this to feel the ball better. even Zhang jike puts his thumb on the rubber for his backhand
@@sabarishniranjan1936 So does Ma long but different grips not possible for amateur players
Depending on the time you want to invest in you can change grip and yes there is enough time if you practice for it. Just the basic thinking, if you have time to change foot position it’s trivial to change for fingers position.
Is it the most consistent? Depends on what consistent means. Since more power and spin will be more consistent, so you can change bh and forehand for example and have consistent stroke. But in other area it is not more consistent because pbviously changing grips in different position will increase inconsistencies.
You confuse parallel with perpendicular. The index finger is not parallel with the handle (as you state early in video) it is perpendicular. the index finger is parallel with the bottom of blade along the rubber "brand" info area. You do state that in text later in video.
This used to be called a BH grip, for players who changed their grip between BH and FH. What you are saying is, this is now the one and only grip and should not be changed between BH and FH?
Ma long switch grip on BH strokes with moving thumb on rubber to press racket with force, push. Look videos. There are some videos of changing grip of Ma Long. I watched a year later or long time ago, so i cant remember which video
Thank you!
does the blade curved part need to be in the web of your thumb and forefinger? because i can put my thumb on the handle to rest my thumb on it but should teh curve part of teh wood push into the web of your hand? (this may vary due to length of people thumbs and web
Thumb moves on to the rubber for backhand?
Feeling means when you spin and feel the ball when you hit
The chinese move their thumb up to the rubber off of the handle for backhand strokes though.
i agree many chinese players move the thumb up which provides more stable platform and power.
Trevor Koch Yea, I do too.
It really increases your shot quality when you get used to it over time.
Is it possible to learn how to play with your finger 25°degrees up more from the standard grip of placing your finger parallel to the rubber at base of the blade. woulc this be acceptable if you could keep the grip consistent. I notice Waldner even does this on his forehand occasionally. I know because i have watched a few games in slow motion and noticed sometimes he does this possibly to get more spin and power. What do you think?
One photo of the front and back of the bat would have saved a lot of time!
3.38 It s perpendicular or parallel ?!
Should the thumb touch the rubber or not,,,in each video you are saying differently....please clarrify
Kishok Rajkumar Forehand, no. Backhand, yes.
Interesting, but you only show the shakehand grip. Do the same principles apply to the penholder as well?
Tiếng anh mình hơi kém , ad phụ đề được càng nhiều clip càng tốt . Thank !
I can't keep my index finger parallel and hold the racket loosely at the same time plzzzzzz help
You can move the finger a bit as per your convenience
Pls tips for pimples users 🙏🙏🙏
ZJK and ML both have back hand dominant grips. ML admits this in his instructional video. Bad advice to copy for beginners.
do you have a clear photo of. how the grip should be?
EmRatThich you're just funny and I don't know why.
I don't follow him at 2:50. He says "Keep your wrist straight with your forearm and don't angle it up or down". Well, if you do it, then your paddle will be almost PERPENDICULAR to your forearm or the table when you hit the ball. But that's not what we see in pictures. In illustrations, we see the paddle being almost PARALLEL to the forearm and the table when the player attacks the ball. The only way to hit it like that (preserving the type of grip demonstrated) is to BEND your wrist downwards, so it won't be straight with the forearm
PavelSTL agreed. It's not clear by what he means by straight wrist.
most likely he means that the BAT should be inline with the forearm(wrist in ULNAR DEVIATION)
it needs a lot of training, but it is correct as a starting point then it will develop differently according to everyone style
mình bị mồ hôi tay ra nhiều nên không dám cầm vầy, đã từng tuột vợt khi giật. Khổ tâm ghê.
bạn nên chọn cốt có tay cầm dầy hơn. cốt vợt bây giờ thiết kế không tốt như xưa nữa.
ok look it here
What's about hammer grip?
disappoited with your explaination!
+Van Vien Pham can you tell me why
Have you tried to hold the racket like this when you make a forehand stroke? Most of pictures that you used to illustrate and explain the grip here might be just suitable for backhand hits but not right for forehand. In addition, as you said when the fingers close together, your wrist will be lost the flexibility and if it is too loosen, you will lose the consistency. Moreover, I tried to hold racket like this before, but it is not productivity like this video, and I have to change. I think the most important on table tennis grip are relax, comfortable.
yes. Try it and you will find your new level of table tennis. Many players has confirmed it. Can I ask what is your playing level?
Van Vien Pham same here