Isn't there an option to not use a thru axle (or eyelets because my full suspension bike doesn't have them) and just attach the rack to the seat stays?
It's easy actually. Remove the two bolts that hold the rack to the axle. Then remove the rack from axle by stretching it slightly to slide off the ends of our axle. The rack will pivot around the upper attachment points. This will allow you to remove the axle and change your flat.
Tory, you have an excellent presenter's voice! Seriously, though, a rear rack on a carbon fiber bike?! Though it looks like most of the weight is borne by the axle, my fear would be any forward force on the carbon fiber "seat stays"... SNAP! What have your customers been reporting? *
@@trocycling1204 Which adapter is it? Because i prefer it also to mount it to the seat post. But with a Full-suspension bike you need something, what can make the up/down movement (like the Ortlieb Quick Rack)
@@GreyCivic100 - I just used one of the ones they supplied for the seat stays. And then I bent just 1 of those bars that they want you to connect to the seat stays, and got it to the seatpost. It works great.
It does not. We're ridden thousands of miles without issue. The movement required from the rack is minimal and easily taken care of by the extenders. You won't even notice the rack is there.
Looks great, but it's not for me as I'd prefer a strap-based fixing at the front instead of the zip-ties to enable quick removal. Reasoning: I use my Specialized Levo for commuting (therefore looking at racks), but want to be able to take the rack off quickly if I'm hitting the trails at the weekend. Any plans for an alternative front attachment? The alternatives from Thule and Topeak are interesting (and also count as sprung weight), but the traditional triangle form that you offer makes it more compatible with mounting systems like the Ortlieb QL 3.1
@timbeard8457 see this is what I love about the OMM system. It is super quick n easy to remove. There are just two bolts to remove per side. Two from the axle and two from the upper attachment Pucks. I leave the axle and Pucks in place so the rack is easy to install when I need it again. No other system can compare to how stable and secure these racks are when mounted. Very fast and simple to remove/reinstall. Give em a shot.
@@chriskratsch8117 @OldManMountainRacks I see what you mean about leaving the pucks on. I also have two sets of wheels, one for commuting, one for off-road which I would want to swap when I take the rack off. Currently, removing the rear axel just involves unscrewing from one side and pulling out. If I understand the OMM thru axel solution correctly, I'd need to remove both axel screws to take off the rack anyway, then the axel bolt on the non-driver side, then unscrew it (with the axle nut attached) from the drive side. Correct?
@@chriskratsch8117 Thank you again for the tip - just ordered! I also ordered the Kid Dropout so that I have something to which I can attach a stand. I've seen a couple of options, but I'm not sure they'd support a 25kg eMTB.
@@timbeard8457 You can also try the Ortlieb Quick Rack (will be released in heavier versions soon). This seems to work fine with fullys as well as it is strapped on the seat post.
It depends on how you intend to use them. For off road riding where you don't want them to rattle and don't need to take them on and off quickly, like when commuting, we like the Micro Panniers from North St Bags. We offer them on our site.
What's the point of all those racks mounted to the wheel? They make the wheel very heavy and destroy the whole full-suspension bike idea. Also, your baggage is like in a tumbler. Am I missing something?
No, you didn't miss anything. This rack is stupid. In fact, any full suspension bike that has a rack mounted to the swingarm is stupid. Basically, the only way to do it correctly, would be to mount it to the seat tube. But none of the manufacturers do it correctly, so you end up with a useless rack, that barely hangs on by itself, and doesn't have any usable weight capacity.
@@_nopestr exactly , best part is I build myself solid rack exactly as you described. I tested it in a few off road trips and it holds quite nicely even when I overload it.
@@GrafRamolo Jokes aside - take a look at a "Starrun R20" bike. That's probably closest to what I meant, when it comes to how a rack should be mounted.
Isn't there an option to not use a thru axle (or eyelets because my full suspension bike doesn't have them) and just attach the rack to the seat stays?
how do you remove the wheel when it is attached to the special axle? Do you need to disassemble the rack to get to the wheel?
It's easy actually. Remove the two bolts that hold the rack to the axle. Then remove the rack from axle by stretching it slightly to slide off the ends of our axle. The rack will pivot around the upper attachment points. This will allow you to remove the axle and change your flat.
Tory, you have an excellent presenter's voice!
Seriously, though, a rear rack on a carbon fiber bike?! Though it looks like most of the weight is borne by the axle, my fear would be any forward force on the carbon fiber "seat stays"... SNAP!
What have your customers been reporting?
*
I assembled mine to my seat post, so no part of the rack is touching my frame. It works great.
@@trocycling1204 Which adapter is it? Because i prefer it also to mount it to the seat post. But with a Full-suspension bike you need something, what can make the up/down movement (like the Ortlieb Quick Rack)
@@GreyCivic100 - I just used one of the ones they supplied for the seat stays. And then I bent just 1 of those bars that they want you to connect to the seat stays, and got it to the seatpost. It works great.
For the through axle spec of 12Nm; trial and error? Cause I don't have a torque wrench that works like that.
12nm will take your whole had but not your whole arm to snug up. So get it good and snug but you don't need to break a sweat.
But my suspension seat stay moves independently from the axle, would installing this lock my suspension?
It does not. We're ridden thousands of miles without issue. The movement required from the rack is minimal and easily taken care of by the extenders. You won't even notice the rack is there.
Looks great, but it's not for me as I'd prefer a strap-based fixing at the front instead of the zip-ties to enable quick removal. Reasoning: I use my Specialized Levo for commuting (therefore looking at racks), but want to be able to take the rack off quickly if I'm hitting the trails at the weekend. Any plans for an alternative front attachment? The alternatives from Thule and Topeak are interesting (and also count as sprung weight), but the traditional triangle form that you offer makes it more compatible with mounting systems like the Ortlieb QL 3.1
@timbeard8457 see this is what I love about the OMM system. It is super quick n easy to remove. There are just two bolts to remove per side. Two from the axle and two from the upper attachment Pucks. I leave the axle and Pucks in place so the rack is easy to install when I need it again. No other system can compare to how stable and secure these racks are when mounted. Very fast and simple to remove/reinstall. Give em a shot.
@@chriskratsch8117 Thank you - I'll have a closer look
@@chriskratsch8117 @OldManMountainRacks I see what you mean about leaving the pucks on.
I also have two sets of wheels, one for commuting, one for off-road which I would want to swap when I take the rack off. Currently, removing the rear axel just involves unscrewing from one side and pulling out. If I understand the OMM thru axel solution correctly, I'd need to remove both axel screws to take off the rack anyway, then the axel bolt on the non-driver side, then unscrew it (with the axle nut attached) from the drive side. Correct?
@@chriskratsch8117 Thank you again for the tip - just ordered! I also ordered the Kid Dropout so that I have something to which I can attach a stand. I've seen a couple of options, but I'm not sure they'd support a 25kg eMTB.
@@timbeard8457 You can also try the Ortlieb Quick Rack (will be released in heavier versions soon). This seems to work fine with fullys as well as it is strapped on the seat post.
Can you fit a child seat like thule ridealong or Thule Yepp 2 Maxi?
Hi @BogdanSimionescu We do not rate our racks for child seats as most are designed to clamp onto round rails while our deck is stamped sheet metal.
Looking for info on bags. Specifically the top rack bag$125. Show lots of exterior pics, could you pls show how it opens and maybe one inside pic?
There's a simple strap the goes over the top to hold it closed and allow quick and easy access.
can yall make a video with the elkhorn rear? installation instructions are terrible
Where can I buy this? the website is broken.
The part number to order?
The Divide and our Fit Kits are available at OldManMountain.com
Does it fit with cheap crosso drybag?
how much weight does it hold?
The Divide is rated to 55lbs when eyelet mounted and 70lbs if thru axle mounted with one of our Fit Kits.
Why am I blocked from the website?
We've had some spambots go after the site and had to block a few countries. You can use a VPN to access the site. SOrry about the inconvenience.
But do you ship to those countries?@@OldManMountainRacks
Which bags do you recommend?
It depends on how you intend to use them. For off road riding where you don't want them to rattle and don't need to take them on and off quickly, like when commuting, we like the Micro Panniers from North St Bags. We offer them on our site.
Quick removal is a game changer. This takes way too long to be useful.
What's the point of all those racks mounted to the wheel? They make the wheel very heavy and destroy the whole full-suspension bike idea. Also, your baggage is like in a tumbler. Am I missing something?
No, you didn't miss anything. This rack is stupid. In fact, any full suspension bike that has a rack mounted to the swingarm is stupid. Basically, the only way to do it correctly, would be to mount it to the seat tube. But none of the manufacturers do it correctly, so you end up with a useless rack, that barely hangs on by itself, and doesn't have any usable weight capacity.
@@_nopestr exactly , best part is I build myself solid rack exactly as you described. I tested it in a few off road trips and it holds quite nicely even when I overload it.
@@GrafRamolo Where's my royalties check 🤣🤣?
@@GrafRamolo Jokes aside - take a look at a "Starrun R20" bike. That's probably closest to what I meant, when it comes to how a rack should be mounted.
@@_nopestr hahaha, but i invented it years ago. I cannot post pictures here but I can mail it to you
I have packs 1,2,3 not 1,2,5
Hi Melissa, Hardware Kit 5 comes with the Fit Kit.
Videos like this annoy me so much. Tells you to make sure the threads match up but doesn't give instructions on what you should do if they don't lol.
all i want are those pucks an your stuff is mad over priced
Im not gonna get anything from this company until this dude fixes his hairstyle.
Agreed. I feel like any purchase I'd make would be giving tacit approval to his egregious hair styling choices, which is something I could never do.