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  • @Durwood71
    @Durwood71 5 лет назад +412

    Reeve was an excellent actor. Watch the scene in Lois Lane's apartment when Clark Kent considers revealing his true identity. All Reeve does is take off his glasses and straighten his shoulders, yet the transformation from mild mannered reporter to Superman is unmistakable. There aren't many actors who can pull that off.

    • @juansantiago3296
      @juansantiago3296 5 лет назад +10

      Darren Z that observation is spot on....

    • @3PiecesOfBread
      @3PiecesOfBread 5 лет назад +38

      And the way he shifts right back into Clark a few seconds later is just as awesome.
      The scene where they get mugged and Clark catches the bullet. The way he panics when Lois is about to drop her purse instead of just handing it to the guy, and his facial expression as Supes at the end just before he throws the bullet away is a close second.
      The thing about Superman is almost anyone can pull off Superman, but nobody can pull off Clark like Reeve. It’s not even remotely close.

    • @trinilyfe4404
      @trinilyfe4404 5 лет назад

      True

    • @jrag1000
      @jrag1000 5 лет назад +11

      @@3PiecesOfBread True because they never understood/understand the character. Clark Kent and Superman, Christopher Reeve KNEW that in order to hide behind Clark Superman had to BE Clark 100%. He did a tremendous job at humility and bashfulness.

    • @Fairunknown
      @Fairunknown 5 лет назад +2

      You see what you want to see! ;)

  • @setialphasix
    @setialphasix 5 лет назад +521

    "John Williams's iconic score became synonymous with the film."
    Ummmm, John Williams's iconic scores become synonymous with EVERY film he's ever scored, lol!

    • @trekkiejunk
      @trekkiejunk 5 лет назад +5

      Kyle -- Truuuuue.... but that doesn't negate that the score became synonymous with Superman. Also, Superman might be his only film score for a movie not based on original material. At least, not based on a huge franchise before he came on board. So the point about it being synonymous with Superman means something different than Star Wars or Indiana Jones.

    • @rsr789
      @rsr789 5 лет назад +4

      @MGTOW Monkey No one will be as good as the guy who wrote the original Lost in Space theme.

    • @Mr.White10-65
      @Mr.White10-65 5 лет назад

      rsr789 Buck Rogers theme is better lol.

    • @davidtuttle7556
      @davidtuttle7556 5 лет назад +1

      @MGTOW Monkey You know that those were all Williams as well right?

    • @DickDiamond74
      @DickDiamond74 5 лет назад +2

      he actually said "character"

  • @JamesASharp
    @JamesASharp 3 года назад +54

    RIP Richard Donner. He was a great director.

  • @apoucher1
    @apoucher1 5 лет назад +286

    Donner is a freckin’ genius 🙌
    When you know of all the problems he faced during the production it is such an amazing achievment 👏👏👏

    • @RoyCyberPunk
      @RoyCyberPunk 5 лет назад +14

      Not only that. He was way ahead of his time with the end credits scene that ended up in the beginning of Superman 2 instead now end credits are a staple of superhero movies.

    • @Jordan-Ramses
      @Jordan-Ramses 5 лет назад +4

      They were right. Comic book hero movies are juvenile. It's like grown adults reading Harry Potter.

    • @RoyCyberPunk
      @RoyCyberPunk 5 лет назад +6

      @@Jordan-Ramses
      F*ck off troll.

    • @preving
      @preving 5 лет назад

      agreed

    • @paullynch1246
      @paullynch1246 5 лет назад +1

      And he has proved himself in so many different genres. He's a fantastic director and very versatile

  • @RagnarBlox
    @RagnarBlox 5 лет назад +554

    Them firing Donner was what lead to horrible Superman 3 & 4.
    To me Superman 1 & 2 are the Gold Standard of Superman. No matter who they put into that suit, Christopher Reeve will ALWAYS be Superman.

    • @MrCjchamp2001
      @MrCjchamp2001 5 лет назад +8

      Ez Target 4 wasn't Lester. That's why Hackman came back

    • @ssgoku7192
      @ssgoku7192 5 лет назад +2

      Ez Target exactly

    • @anonisnoone6125
      @anonisnoone6125 5 лет назад

      Why did they fire Donner?

    • @dignerds
      @dignerds 5 лет назад +1

      That type of thinking damages the character ...he needs to live on in New live action

    • @matthewgaudet4064
      @matthewgaudet4064 5 лет назад +9

      Firing Donner and losing the screenwriters for Superman 1 and 2. Losing Hackman and Marlon Brando. They were all failures of the producers. Superman 4 on the other hand was a low budget Golan- Globus production and the Salkinds had nothing to do with it. They had failed with Santa Claus the movie and Supergirl. And had only held onto the rights for Superboy and made a tv series.

  • @rishshortfilms
    @rishshortfilms 3 года назад +39

    Decided to watch this after reading about Richard Donner's passing. Rest in Peace to the icon.

  • @matthewgaudet4064
    @matthewgaudet4064 5 лет назад +818

    The chemistry between Chris and Margot was magic, may they both rest in peace.

    • @marlonclark1896
      @marlonclark1896 5 лет назад +40

      they will always be superman and lois lane

    • @zebunker
      @zebunker 5 лет назад +5

      They are dead. Not resting

    • @xenoaltrax485
      @xenoaltrax485 5 лет назад +10

      ^^^wtf?!? rip english comprehension, lol XD

    • @BennTheGreaT
      @BennTheGreaT 5 лет назад +10

      @@zebunker should i say may they both dead in peace. 😅

    • @alphatrion100
      @alphatrion100 5 лет назад +12

      @@xenoaltrax485 he obviously doesn't believe in an after life. Atheïst

  • @1qwasz12
    @1qwasz12 5 лет назад +566

    "Kneel before Zod!". Terrence Stamp carried the sequel for me.

    • @SidJustice1
      @SidJustice1 5 лет назад +32

      1qwasz12,he SURELY did!! “Who is this SUPERMAN!! Come to me, Superman! If you dare...I defy you. Come...and kneeeell b4 Zod! ZODDDD!!!!”

    • @joeparrigen4982
      @joeparrigen4982 5 лет назад +1

      "Zod not good"

    • @standupG1
      @standupG1 5 лет назад +9

      Great point. He did an excellent job and I feel he doesn't get the credit he deserves.

    • @1qwasz12
      @1qwasz12 5 лет назад +5

      @@standupG1 Terrence Stamp was a popular actor in the late 60's & early 70's. Afterward, the great actor had inexplicably vanished. And I don't think this was a self-imposed exile. Check out The Hit and the Limey. He is fantastic in both films.

    • @1qwasz12
      @1qwasz12 5 лет назад +4

      @@somercet1 I skipped "Priscilla ". Not a fan of the genre.

  • @justintime8922
    @justintime8922 5 лет назад +305

    Reeve was just the best Superman ever and the soundtrack is impossible to beat .

    • @mikemorris4548
      @mikemorris4548 5 лет назад +6

      Agreed, the best original, as he was the original, but Dean Cain the best modern (him from the series)

    • @JC-qu5lv
      @JC-qu5lv 5 лет назад +3

      Agreed and Gerard Christopher was the best Superboy and Tom Welling the best Clark Kent Superboy.

    • @justintime8922
      @justintime8922 5 лет назад +2

      ​@walk hard Yes he was . I also think Margot Kidder was the best Louis Lane she had a goofiness when it came to Superman that was classic.

    • @muslimmakhachev3746
      @muslimmakhachev3746 5 лет назад +2

      @@mikemorris4548 Dean cain sucks

    • @muslimmakhachev3746
      @muslimmakhachev3746 5 лет назад +3

      Reeves is the best original superman

  • @theflyingninja1
    @theflyingninja1 5 лет назад +121

    Christopher Reeve IS Superman. He was the only celebrity whose death made me cry.

    • @kbanghart
      @kbanghart 5 лет назад +1

      Wow, not even Freddie Mercury?

    • @victorbonilla4634
      @victorbonilla4634 5 лет назад

      @@kbanghart or John Lennon?

    • @deborahhanna6640
      @deborahhanna6640 4 года назад +5

      Until I bawled my eyes out last year when Rutger Hauer died.

    • @ggt47
      @ggt47 4 года назад

      (Gasps)...Aww...

    • @supernova1969
      @supernova1969 4 года назад +4

      Barry White's death made many people cry. So did Donna Summer's. May they rest in peace.

  • @deborahblackvideoediting8697
    @deborahblackvideoediting8697 2 года назад +19

    From all accounts, it sounds like Richard Donner created an excellent, supportive atmosphere for his cast and crew. There are so many horror stories about directors caring only for the final product, and not giving a damn about those working on their films. Donner's cast and crew really seemed to care a lot about him, with Gene Hackman going so far as to not return in support of Donner. And the fact that Donner did his best to keep the animosity between him and the producers secret from everyone else really says a lot about him. He suffered that burden alone, which I really respect.

  • @gryphon9507
    @gryphon9507 5 лет назад +370

    Kneel before Zod. Now do crunches before Zod. One before Zod. Two before Zod. Three before Zod.

    • @BigApeBooks
      @BigApeBooks 5 лет назад +13

      LOL! Nice.

    • @milesaway1980
      @milesaway1980 5 лет назад +10

      ruclips.net/video/qMbiLJ2aZuY/видео.html
      Love this one!

    • @KutWrite
      @KutWrite 5 лет назад +4

      Even Zod couldn't do crunches from a kneeling position!
      (cool "Adult Swim" link, though)

    • @postersandstuff
      @postersandstuff 5 лет назад +3

      Is Zod still selling kitchens , lol ?

    • @thiscorrosion900
      @thiscorrosion900 5 лет назад +1

      and one day, YOGA!

  • @vassa1972
    @vassa1972 5 лет назад +249

    The first two films were great and God bless Christopher Reeve

    • @matthewking77
      @matthewking77 5 лет назад +4

      @tyler durden his name is Reeve not Reeves btw

    • @ShuffleboardJerk
      @ShuffleboardJerk 5 лет назад +1

      tyler durden This is the funniest exchange I’ve seen all week.

    • @vassa1972
      @vassa1972 5 лет назад

      @tyler durden hello and good morning I'm Peter from Hamilton Ontario Canada Tyler are you talking about me? Sorry I'm not sure that is why I'm asking sir?

    • @kbanghart
      @kbanghart 5 лет назад

      @tyler durden sure bro LMAO

    • @claudegibson9839
      @claudegibson9839 4 месяца назад

      Back in the early 1970s Christopher Reeves was in a soap opera on TV. It's strange my mother said that he would make a good Superman, go figure.

  • @ChadeGB
    @ChadeGB 5 лет назад +274

    That smile he gives the camera, no, gives us, as he flies above the earth, so perfect, so Superman. No one will ever surpass Reeves and Superman 1.

    • @bcgldnboy
      @bcgldnboy 5 лет назад +3

      Christopher Reeve - no S at the end of his last name. George Reeves with an S played Superman in the 50's TV series Adventures of Superman.

    • @Tony32
      @Tony32 5 лет назад +5

      @@bcgldnboy Used to be Reeves (with an s) the Mandela effect changed it to Reeve (no s)

    • @bcgldnboy
      @bcgldnboy 5 лет назад +1

      Tony32 REEVE always has been, always will be.

    • @Tom_Van_Zandt
      @Tom_Van_Zandt 5 лет назад +2

      @@bcgldnboy Tony32 was joking. The correct response would have been to chuckle and move on. Instead you chose to correct him without a hint of humor or irony.

    • @darthudd6721
      @darthudd6721 5 лет назад +7

      Brandon Routh was the closest to reaching the level of Reeve, he was just let down by a terrible story. But I agree Reeve's was born to play Superman.

  • @tomteatom
    @tomteatom 5 лет назад +83

    "they chose money over quality"
    Sounds like this is the choice every single company makes, these days.

    • @vernskid
      @vernskid 4 года назад

      You are so right. They should have let Richard Donner finish it. The movie would have been better.

    • @captainvadergaming4696
      @captainvadergaming4696 4 года назад

      I think that's one of the reasons the Justice League Snyder Cut was ignored

    • @SovereignStatesman
      @SovereignStatesman 4 года назад +1

      Yes, but they often end up LOSING money by doing it.
      Brando would have made them a lot more money than they saved by losing him.

    • @CaptainCat101
      @CaptainCat101 3 года назад

      I don't blame them, but it is terrible

  • @jonahlancaster2651
    @jonahlancaster2651 5 лет назад +260

    Superman: The Story of how Richard Donner saved the production.

    • @RollingOrmond
      @RollingOrmond 5 лет назад +10

      The original pre-Donner recut is still the best. Lester did a great job.

    • @bryanc7094
      @bryanc7094 5 лет назад +4

      Rolling Ormond meh

    • @TheLegacyHero
      @TheLegacyHero 5 лет назад +9

      @Razh 80 You gotta be kidding me! That would've been epic, and cyber lady in Superman 3 would've made so much more sense to be Brainiac!

    • @Omaru1982
      @Omaru1982 5 лет назад +5

      The Donner cut is good except the awful re-used ending. Superman reverses time and then goes to beat up a trucker who doesn't even know who he is. @@RollingOrmond

    • @slim420-e8v
      @slim420-e8v 5 лет назад +3

      Superman 2 The movie about how Superman will kill a woman if he cums in her.

  • @RichardX1
    @RichardX1 5 лет назад +89

    Casting Christopher Reeve was the best decision made for these films. Because not only could he pkay Superman, but he could play Clark Kent. And make you forget they were supposed to be the same person.

    • @bobblueford
      @bobblueford 5 лет назад +6

      Yes!!! Every actor since, has played both characters with the same personality. Reeve is the only one that played him with two personalities.

    • @jennifersman7990
      @jennifersman7990 5 лет назад +6

      After his accident, Reeve did an interview where he said that we all like to think we have a bit of Superman and Clark Kent within us and that’s why his Superman related so well with audiences because they saw themselves onscreen

    • @jedijones
      @jedijones 5 лет назад +2

      @@jennifersman7990 Roger Ebert mentioned the same thing in his review of Superman 2.

    • @ejay1118
      @ejay1118 5 лет назад +1

      Whenever anyone mentions that a pair of glasses and a suit shouldn't work. I remember the shot of Reeve, taking off the glasses, straightening his shoulders and saying, in a deep voice; "Lois," (Lois is out of the room) "I have to tell you something. I'm really..." Then Lois comes back into the room, he "chickens out" puts the glasses back on and becomes "Clark" again!

    • @benhill8483
      @benhill8483 4 года назад +1

      Agreed and for me this was the main reason Cavills man of steel didn't work for me...the duality of Reeves performance is the selling point for me

  • @syntaxusdogmata3333
    @syntaxusdogmata3333 5 лет назад +112

    _"By the time they started shooting, Reeve . . . was . . . Superman!"_
    And he still is.

    • @marcusmartin5758
      @marcusmartin5758 5 лет назад +2

      Nah, he's dead.

    • @GMOTP5738
      @GMOTP5738 5 лет назад +5

      @@marcusmartin5758 oh shit we got an edgelord over here 🤣

    • @marcusmartin5758
      @marcusmartin5758 5 лет назад +2

      @@GMOTP5738 keep walkin snowflakes.

    • @Revan2908
      @Revan2908 5 лет назад +1

      @@GMOTP5738 Coming from the internet ubergeek who thinks it is still cool to say "edgelord"...

    • @jaelge
      @jaelge 5 лет назад

      He was a passable Superman but lousy Clark Kent.

  • @kirk1701
    @kirk1701 5 лет назад +225

    That John Williams score in the background is amazing.

    • @VillekSublis
      @VillekSublis 5 лет назад

      not just that it as parade of the Ewoks from star wars the Return of the jedi

    • @cosmicdarkmatter1128
      @cosmicdarkmatter1128 5 лет назад +1

      they should have used it for the Man of Steel Movies...smh

    • @roycastanon5754
      @roycastanon5754 5 лет назад

      Cosmic Dark Matter but they have a better score for the man of steel movies. Sorry but older doesn’t mean better

    • @cosmicdarkmatter1128
      @cosmicdarkmatter1128 5 лет назад +2

      @@@roycastanon5754 That's your opinion, my opinion is that Man of Steel were better quality films obviously, and I'm a fan of Henry Cavill's take on Super Man. But I'm not that old and I like the score for the older films more.
      If you notice Star Wars films still use their original score to this day....
      When it comes to music, newer doesn't always mean better either.

    • @johnjohns8863
      @johnjohns8863 5 лет назад

      Man of steel has the better score plus the danny elfman score in justice league made the movie a retarded piece of absolute shite .....worse score ....superman lip problem and shit ton more problems thanks to WB and pedophile joss wheedon who by the way looks like phil michell from Eastender

  • @jackwulf7439
    @jackwulf7439 5 лет назад +219

    This was the Best Zod. Regal, godlike, arrogant, and fun! A truly enjoyable villain.

    • @bobblueford
      @bobblueford 5 лет назад +4

      👍👍👍👍👍

    • @davidtuttle7556
      @davidtuttle7556 5 лет назад +16

      It was. But Gene Hackman in 1 was THE best Lex. Funny, charismatic, relatable, yet totally evil nut job.

    • @rupert-j8f
      @rupert-j8f 5 лет назад +13

      kneel before zod.

    • @sidarthur8706
      @sidarthur8706 5 лет назад +1

      Richard Upton ok daddy

    • @PurpleBox89
      @PurpleBox89 5 лет назад +1

      Stamp made a fair Jor-El too in Smallville.

  • @MrCliffda3rd
    @MrCliffda3rd 5 лет назад +145

    I have the Donner Cut and havent looked back at Lesters version since.

    • @IloveElsaofArendelle
      @IloveElsaofArendelle 5 лет назад

      👏👏👏👏👏👏

    • @FendersRule
      @FendersRule 5 лет назад +18

      Lester version is better. Easily.

    • @gutenbird
      @gutenbird 5 лет назад

      @@FendersRule No crap. What the hell movies have these idiots been watching?

    • @ThisIsMeHowYouDoing
      @ThisIsMeHowYouDoing 5 лет назад +1

      Don't you believe in freedom of the press?

    • @JodaroKujo
      @JodaroKujo 5 лет назад +6

      MrCliffda3rd I like the original
      The original is my childhood I don’t really like the dinner cut version

  • @kforcer
    @kforcer 5 лет назад +226

    Most of today's audience will find it a bore...? I don't think so; pretty sure it is still watched and re-watched by people of various ages. This is almost guaranteed given how beloved the character of Superman is coupled with the fact that there has yet to be an on-screen version that has captured the popular imagination in the same way that this version did.

    • @johnjohns8863
      @johnjohns8863 5 лет назад +5

      This superman was not based on the comics .......are you all retarded it was shit simple

    • @bigkmoviesandgames
      @bigkmoviesandgames 5 лет назад +25

      @@johnjohns8863 it has lots of stuff that's in the comics. like almost every other superhero movie it has elements from many different comics to make an original story. If you don't like it fine but you're acting hostile for other peoples opinions which is childish.

    • @athenassigil5820
      @athenassigil5820 5 лет назад +22

      @@johnjohns8863 That's why the creator's of Superman praised it and cried tears of joy? Ha.....

    • @JustChrisWillDoTa
      @JustChrisWillDoTa 5 лет назад +8

      I think it was a great adaptation of the comics, and is still a great watch today. My 8 year old little girl enjoys watching them, though maybe not as much as I do.

    • @kforcer
      @kforcer 5 лет назад +9

      ​@@johnjohns8863 But it indeed was (based on the comics). Certainly it didn't include the additions to the Superman universe of Captain Marvel's creator ,Otto Binder, such as Superboy, Supergirl, etc., but wonderful as those were, they were at the end of the day, just that, additions, intended to bring to Superman some of the flavor of the (at the time) more popular Fawcett character. I can't really think of any major departures from the core Superman story, in fact.

  • @clauderain4888
    @clauderain4888 5 лет назад +87

    Hearing Donner talk about Siegel and Shuster tearfully thanking him for making the Movie made me get tearful

    • @bigsonny45
      @bigsonny45 5 лет назад +2

      Me three!!

    • @jedijones
      @jedijones 5 лет назад +1

      There was a Captain America documentary on TV when Winter Soldier came out in which Jack Kirby's family and Joe Simon had the exact same reaction to the first Captain America movie.

  • @SusanSloate
    @SusanSloate 5 лет назад +22

    I adored the original when it came out, and wish this video had given more credit to Christopher Reeve, who is in my opinion the ONE absolutely indispensable element. His Superman was magical. No one else has ever come close.
    My favorite film blooper comes from SUPERMAN II, when Lois falls into Niagara Falls and Clark, realizing he can't reveal himself but wanting to save her, uses his x-ray vision to slice the limb off a tree for her to grab onto. Reeve doesn't remove his glasses, which would have been shattered by the x-ray. Every time I see it, I chuckle.
    The original, to my mind, was the only truly worthwhile whole film. I loved the love story in the second, but that was all that was worth seeing. And to this day, Superman flying Lois around the world on their first date is the most romantic type of date I can imagine. LOVE that sequence!

    • @Rony-L
      @Rony-L 5 лет назад

      I kindly disagree.

  • @defhoez449
    @defhoez449 5 лет назад +37

    I miss Donner...he was a fantastic director. Superman, Lethal Weapon franchise, Goonies, Scrooged, Maverick. All classic films.

    • @mikamika1873
      @mikamika1873 5 лет назад +7

      ... The Omen...

    • @-M0LE
      @-M0LE 5 лет назад

      DeFHoez and is bus wife is carrying on that passion

  • @therion961
    @therion961 5 лет назад +444

    Superman II was (still is) a great movie

    • @coreyoz
      @coreyoz 5 лет назад +41

      that diner scene is one of the best in cinema if you ask 8 year old me

    • @johnbull1568
      @johnbull1568 5 лет назад +16

      @@coreyoz There's a bunch of great scenes, and great lines still quotable today. Sure, the special effects are ropey and don't hold up, but it's still a great movie.

    • @pedroanibalpower7612
      @pedroanibalpower7612 5 лет назад +31

      Christopher Reeve the only one Superman forever

    • @therion961
      @therion961 5 лет назад +7

      Pedro Anibal Power amen to that

    • @jkdortch2308
      @jkdortch2308 5 лет назад +4

      THE
      PHANTOM ZONE

  • @MrAshwinChauhan
    @MrAshwinChauhan 5 лет назад +82

    "I can't even finish this sentence"
    Made me laugh out loud! 😂😂

    • @woodsplitter3274
      @woodsplitter3274 4 года назад +2

      I wonder why Superman is so hard to get right in movies. It could be that he is too earnest and genuine? Reminds me of Beowulf in that way: great source material; movies just couldn't make it to that level.

    • @nazreplicas7930
      @nazreplicas7930 4 года назад

      @@woodsplitter3274 zack got it right, Man Of Steel was great

    • @visaman
      @visaman 4 года назад +1

      @@woodsplitter3274 Superman was a product of WW2. Take that element away and it just falls flat.

    • @Outlaw8908
      @Outlaw8908 3 года назад

      @@visaman I disagree a great deal with that foolish statement. He was created before the Second World War. He is a product of a time that has been far more hopeful and genuine. Today that is too much for filmmakers and audiences. Hell even comic book writers these days make this mistake repeatedly.
      Overall themes aside the next hurdle creatively speaking is the character’s power. How powerful do you make him? How do you create viable conflict with a character that powerful? Truth is you would have to find some core powers and ignore the rest.
      You tackle those two hurdles writing wise and you have yourself a fairly good Superman film.

    • @fenwar9060
      @fenwar9060 3 года назад

      Made me chuckle as well.😀

  • @niceblokedave1
    @niceblokedave1 5 лет назад +28

    Dick Donner is a legend, the guy just has a way with people. How he managed to control and direct the young acting cast of The Goonies and get them to perform is beyond me, it just looked crazy at times on set !

  • @vinayseth1114
    @vinayseth1114 5 лет назад +226

    So, Richard Donner was the Superman behind Superman!

    • @DedByMonday
      @DedByMonday 5 лет назад

      HE Was an ASSHOLE DIRECTOR that is all....

    • @robertdikes2435
      @robertdikes2435 5 лет назад +2

      GREAT QUOTE SETH YOU ROCK SIR !!!!

    • @vinayseth1114
      @vinayseth1114 5 лет назад +3

      @@DedByMonday ? How was he an asshole director??

    • @vinayseth1114
      @vinayseth1114 5 лет назад

      @@robertdikes2435 Thanks mate! :)

    • @bobblueford
      @bobblueford 5 лет назад

      @Daniel Olortegui Donner is Jewish. Salkinds are Russian, Polish, German, Mexican... everything BUT Jewish!

  • @espojtraveler123
    @espojtraveler123 5 лет назад +66

    When Clark first opens up his shirt to reveal that S and saves Lois Lane with one hand catching the helicopter with the other I get nostalgic
    (Superman theme playing)

    • @newsveteran4466
      @newsveteran4466 4 года назад

      What "S?" Should be, "When Clark reveals THE "S."

    • @jc.1191
      @jc.1191 3 года назад

      Damn right 🎶

  • @daveryerson448
    @daveryerson448 5 лет назад +27

    This is not just a WTF Happened to this Movie. It's a great backstage look at both of the movies. It was very fun to watch.

    • @darksharxz
      @darksharxz 5 лет назад

      Indeed

    • @agfagaevart
      @agfagaevart 5 лет назад

      get the superman dvd. it has more accurate info in the extras.

  • @clubredken13
    @clubredken13 5 лет назад +39

    The big takeaway from this I think is that the original Superman will always be the best superhero movie ever made.
    As it should be.

  • @johnprudent3216
    @johnprudent3216 5 лет назад +36

    I still love hearing this story even though I've heard it before. A true example of the story behind the movie being as interesting as the movie itself.
    But I'll say this, I never knew about the bit involving John Williams feuding with Richard Leister.

    • @knownpleasures
      @knownpleasures 4 года назад +1

      Did you hear about Brando suing the Salkinds for the unpaid 11.8% gross of Superman 1 which was settled of course? Thus the real reason he never appeared in part 2 where a similar % would have had to be paid again

    • @redsabreanakin
      @redsabreanakin 4 года назад

      me too. I like to think I know all about the behind the scenes of Superman 1 and 2, but ive never heard of the Williams feud as well. I just assumed it was scheduling conflicts.

  • @jerico641
    @jerico641 5 лет назад +101

    Hey! My grandkids don't find it "a bore"; they love it! All six of them, ranging in ages from 1 to 15.

    • @kevingosse8657
      @kevingosse8657 5 лет назад +5

      I loved the first one, then the second one blew my mind! I'm glad your kids enjoy them

    • @davidcunningham5083
      @davidcunningham5083 5 лет назад +5

      their still the best superman films to date, simply cause they are true to the character and tell a good story, it's really cool you can share and enjoy these movies with your grandkids, i think that's the real joy of watching movies is sharing that experience with the people you love

    • @thedarknate08
      @thedarknate08 5 лет назад +3

      This reviewer is an idiot!

    • @amandakendall4541
      @amandakendall4541 5 лет назад +1

      Yes! Respect!

    • @kick-ass8704
      @kick-ass8704 5 лет назад +3

      6? You mean 5

  • @TroyNaumu808
    @TroyNaumu808 5 лет назад +107

    Reeve is still the BEST Superman

    • @danielaalders
      @danielaalders 5 лет назад

      yes he is...

    • @AztroZ-cz5js
      @AztroZ-cz5js 5 лет назад

      Indeed... a real hero and a gentleman

    • @quandale6258
      @quandale6258 5 лет назад +3

      I personally think him and Cavill were perfect

    • @JosecCuervo
      @JosecCuervo 5 лет назад +2

      Yup Reeves was great back then Cavill is the perfect Superman now.

    • @veltonmeade1057
      @veltonmeade1057 5 лет назад +1

      And Toby Maguire will always be the best Spiderman.

  • @m.em.e4412
    @m.em.e4412 5 лет назад +155

    watched 1 and 2 easily over 100 times each & still feels better than any modern super hero movie

    • @mgtowlite7414
      @mgtowlite7414 5 лет назад +12

      @MP E
      You dare to admit that you weren't enchanted by *Captain Marvel?*
      You must be a -normal Man- sexist, racist, transphobe!

    • @princerogersnelson5166
      @princerogersnelson5166 5 лет назад +2

      Nice profile pic, I loved MOS & BvS' I thought finally we've got a really good actor who looks the part [great new suit, better then that dumb S in Superman Returns, toy suit] we get to the 3rd movie & bam, dreams crushed, another dead midway Superman franchise & what could have been the Superman character's answer to The Dark Knight trilogy, I think the character is cursed to never have a great franchise

    • @migue4793
      @migue4793 5 лет назад +5

      I love Superman I and II. Much better than today

    • @gc3k
      @gc3k 5 лет назад +2

      Other than the disco fever suits on Zod and friends, and Superman throwing a giant fruit roll up at Non

    • @ironmaiden5658
      @ironmaiden5658 5 лет назад +5

      Totally agree. 1 and 2 are the best there is.. Followed closely by The Man of Steel IMO.

  • @gmfb521
    @gmfb521 5 лет назад +67

    I always thought the continuity between 1 and 2 was awesome. Never knew they were filmed at the same time.

    • @AstrosElectronicsLab
      @AstrosElectronicsLab 4 года назад

      @daro2096 Which makes sense, as there weren't many lines for him to say. Probably in total about 4 pages.

    • @210SAi
      @210SAi 4 года назад +2

      Astro's Electronics Lab pretty good for 1 million dollars in the late 70s no less

    • @jc.1191
      @jc.1191 3 года назад

      Me either, and that was my childhood

  • @MacSmithVideo
    @MacSmithVideo 5 лет назад +94

    "what if they teased a sequel no one wanted?" lol that would never stop them now.

    • @the-NightStar
      @the-NightStar 5 лет назад +10

      Super Mario Bros The Movie of all things, has a sequel bait ending. So i'm pretty sure this is not a recent phenomenon.

    • @bobblueford
      @bobblueford 5 лет назад +4

      Mac Smith and Night Star: Masters of the Universe (1987) sure did!

    • @atomicdancer
      @atomicdancer 5 лет назад +1

      And I'm still waiting for Ryan Reynold's "Green Lantern 2."
      Stop teasing us, Warner Bros, and tell us what happens next already!

    • @brandonlyon730
      @brandonlyon730 5 лет назад +5

      Last Airbender had that scene with Ozai and Azula in its end, cliffhanging for the second movie that never got made.

    • @bradleybradley4363
      @bradleybradley4363 5 лет назад +2

      Lesley Jones: "What's Zuul?"

  • @3PiecesOfBread
    @3PiecesOfBread 5 лет назад +22

    Almost anyone can pull off Superman, but nobody can pull off Clark like Reeve did. It’s not even close.

  • @redrebel4540
    @redrebel4540 5 лет назад +42

    Reeve was perfect in the role, a real childhood hero of mine, still is.

    • @nakinaki7991
      @nakinaki7991 5 лет назад +3

      Superman 1 and 2 best ever

    • @jc.1191
      @jc.1191 3 года назад +2

      Mine too. He's forever superman, and who I looked up to as a boy.

  • @lastdimestudios
    @lastdimestudios 5 лет назад +33

    The final comment about the current treatment of superman was hilarious!

  • @spedc
    @spedc 5 лет назад +16

    I'll tell you one thing, I saw the 'released' Superman II in the theater and it was ok. But, when I saw the "Donner" version of Superman II - it was awesome!! I made so much more sense and it had so much better continuity it was perfect!! The Lester and Co. damn near killed Superman.

  • @jaybird8192
    @jaybird8192 5 лет назад +50

    Christopher Reeve was and still is the best version of Superman, hands down! Same with Margot Kidder as Lois! The chemistry between them just shot through the screen!!

    • @jaylee8240
      @jaylee8240 5 лет назад +1

      Man of Steel is the best Superman movie ever

    • @PungiFungi
      @PungiFungi 5 лет назад

      @@jaylee8240 Please, with the overacting and hifalutin angst. No thanks.

    • @carlosmejido3244
      @carlosmejido3244 5 лет назад

      @@jaylee8240 Reeve si the best Superman

  • @wstine79
    @wstine79 5 лет назад +93

    I own both the original and the 2006 Donner cut. I love them both for different reasons.

    • @ironcrosstrainingltd6482
      @ironcrosstrainingltd6482 5 лет назад +7

      Same 👍

    • @DLRX
      @DLRX 5 лет назад +15

      Agreed, the Donner cut is far superior but having grown up with the Lester cut (multiple viewings on HBO back in the day) I can't simply forget about it.

    • @kevin10001
      @kevin10001 5 лет назад +5

      DLRX actually the Lester cut is far superior cause the donor cut is a mess of a movie cause it's obvious that the gun scene is out of place cause if it being a test shot cause Christopher goes from having his bulk to not having it to having his bulk again I have both versions and I go to the theatrical version way more and superman 2 is my favorite of the Christopher Reeve superman movies

    • @ironcrosstrainingltd6482
      @ironcrosstrainingltd6482 5 лет назад +4

      @@DLRX I am in the same situation I watched it so many times before Donner's cut. If I remember correctly Excuse me General would you care to step outside is Lester. Classic moment 👍

    • @MAMoreno
      @MAMoreno 5 лет назад +5

      @@kevin10001 The Lester Cut is also a mess of a movie. Neither version completely works, since both were Frankensteined together. And it's really hard to fix the problem, since Lester consciously chose to shoot the film in a drastically different way than Donner did. In either version, the jump from one director's footage to the other's is utterly jarring, both visually and tonally. A proper Superman II will never exist.

  • @Tbone2044
    @Tbone2044 5 лет назад +265

    Superman 2 with the 3 vilains is still the best out of all of the superman films!

    • @CrazyCoupleDIY
      @CrazyCoupleDIY 5 лет назад +6

      Totally agreed

    • @patchoucoc.5238
      @patchoucoc.5238 5 лет назад +3

      It’s the classic Superman

    • @stonedrider15
      @stonedrider15 5 лет назад +11

      I loved it! I watched first time when I was like 8 and it was just amazing... It's like a live action dbz fight.

    • @TTo-pr2vc
      @TTo-pr2vc 5 лет назад +1

      The fortress of solitude was in this one

    • @fucheduck
      @fucheduck 5 лет назад +2

      the only formidable foes for a SUPER man. is Super people!

  • @Dohsoda
    @Dohsoda 5 лет назад +164

    Superman I and II are still the best version of the characters represented in film.

    • @-M0LE
      @-M0LE 5 лет назад +10

      Joseph and Smallville to me is also up there

    • @mattp6089
      @mattp6089 5 лет назад +4

      These guys all get it. Symbol of Hope, not negative nancy is what this audience member wants from Superman.

    • @thepegasuskid4186
      @thepegasuskid4186 5 лет назад +3

      Yes, Superman should be optimistic, not a pessimist. I don't think we need Supes to be Dark Knight 1.2. We need Batman to be dark and Superman to be light. Also, can we please get a tough Lex Luthor? Whimpy, teenage, schizo Lex Luthor is atrocious.

    • @ohlawd3699
      @ohlawd3699 5 лет назад +1

      Agreed.👍

    • @ashwilliams1725
      @ashwilliams1725 5 лет назад

      I. Prefer Zach Snyder Superman. Ya'll are way too cheery. I like sadness.

  • @rdg5233
    @rdg5233 5 лет назад +46

    During the sequence when Superman's flying over the clouds I always like that little nod to the camera he gives breaking the third wall.

    • @EldergodUK
      @EldergodUK 5 лет назад +4

      Superman, the first deadpool :-)

    • @MKEvinyl
      @MKEvinyl 5 лет назад +14

      You mean the fourth wall.

    • @saturninhabitant
      @saturninhabitant 5 лет назад +4

      Superman is flying over planet Earth. And is "BREAKING THE FOURTH WALL", not the third wall.

    • @mitrooper
      @mitrooper 5 лет назад +3

      They did multiple versions of this, including one where he gives a great eye-wink.

    • @rdg5233
      @rdg5233 5 лет назад +4

      @@saturninhabitant I stand corrected but you get what I mean.

  • @ClassicFilmTVCafe
    @ClassicFilmTVCafe 5 лет назад +52

    Superman II is the best of the Superman movies. Christopher Reeve is the best Superman. End of review.

    • @bastidface
      @bastidface 5 лет назад +1

      I love this film.

    • @210SAi
      @210SAi 4 года назад

      Superman 2 can’t top Lex Luthor as the villain and the Smallville act

    • @tiffprendergast
      @tiffprendergast 4 года назад

      Classic Film & TV Cafe yeah

  • @them-aasaaron6440
    @them-aasaaron6440 5 лет назад +211

    Superman II the Richard Donnor cut is one of the best comic movies "never" made. What a shame.

    • @bradenhogan2
      @bradenhogan2 5 лет назад +11

      Aaron Jones aaand here come the Snyder Cut crowd

    • @LukeLovesRose
      @LukeLovesRose 5 лет назад +8

      Agreed. Those producers totally SUCK

    • @treoates7224
      @treoates7224 5 лет назад +16

      I agree wholeheartedly. The "Donnor Cut" was quite superior.

    • @dannyr2976
      @dannyr2976 5 лет назад +8

      The one element that didn't work for me in the Donner cut was the hotel scene as, Clark would've felt a bullet hit him, hence there would be no need to reveal his Superman identity and two, Lois would be sitting in a jail cell for firing a weapon in a hotel room and not flying with Supes to the Fortress of Solitude.

    • @billybatson7852
      @billybatson7852 5 лет назад +6

      I thought it was just okay. I watched it once and definitely prefer the original cut.

  • @xetaprime
    @xetaprime 5 лет назад +85

    "I can't even finish the sentence" LOL!

    • @sircadlab703
      @sircadlab703 5 лет назад

      This times a million

    • @NameCallingIsWeak
      @NameCallingIsWeak 5 лет назад

      @MGTOW Monkey From bing top result "Basically Kal El means lightweight God. “Kal” (קל) means both lightweight and easy, but in this context it’s more plausible that it means lightweight. Whereas “El” (אל) means God. That said, with an English accent, which both Superman creators Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster held (both Jews by the way), it may also be possible that the original meaning was actually voice of God."

  • @generalkruger7071
    @generalkruger7071 5 лет назад +34

    Christopher Reeve IS THE REAL Superman,forever.

  • @luchadorbeaux1698
    @luchadorbeaux1698 5 лет назад +60

    I now know the story of that stupid cellophane S. I am gonna sleep so good tonight.

    • @TunkTheTank
      @TunkTheTank 5 лет назад +9

      Right? I've always thought was so SO dumb.

    • @MrDruism
      @MrDruism 5 лет назад +8

      I never understood the mind kiss till I heard someone talk about it when I was older. I was confused when I saw it as a kid but didn’t ask anyone because I felt dumb for not understanding what was happening in that scene.

    • @atomicdancer
      @atomicdancer 5 лет назад +4

      Superman always had the power to throw his "S" at people, but he never really knew what it would do, before he tried it.

    • @-M0LE
      @-M0LE 5 лет назад +3

      Luchador Beaux same

    • @bobblueford
      @bobblueford 5 лет назад +1

      I like the cellophane S. Besides, It's his house, he could do what he wants!!!

  • @nycboy121
    @nycboy121 5 лет назад +24

    I love the ending......when you say "I can't even finish this sentence"....lol.....so true!

  • @jaysonraphaelmurdock8812
    @jaysonraphaelmurdock8812 5 лет назад +20

    I never understood why Superman 2 is hailed as the better movie. The original is iconic and just looks better.

    • @skip741x3
      @skip741x3 5 лет назад +4

      probably becuz of the Zod character...the effects though, as I see them now from superman 2 , were pretty aweful ,realllly bad ....the original 1st movie however , likely had a bigger budget and Brando..those krypton scenes still look cool today

    • @desmondd1984
      @desmondd1984 5 лет назад +1

      @Nintariz Kinda questionable though how he basically kills Zod without a second thought. Seem to recall a similar thing being heavily criticized in MOS...

    • @mickeythebull9842
      @mickeythebull9842 4 года назад +1

      Back in 1980 I thought Superman 2 was the better movie, largely because of the action. Now I don't think 2 holds up as well as the original. Too campy.

  • @rschmidt9495
    @rschmidt9495 5 лет назад +45

    Superman I & II, along with Batman (Michael Keaton) will always be my favorite superhero films.

    • @ThePoorBoy
      @ThePoorBoy 5 лет назад +2

      Yes!!!
      If heaven happens to exist, hopefully we'll get a proper Batman Vs. Superman movie one day -- Reeve and Keaton directed by Donner with a script by Mankiewicz and Hamm (Tim Burton can serve as a creative consultant).

    • @rschmidt9495
      @rschmidt9495 5 лет назад +2

      @@ThePoorBoy That would be epic!

    • @bobblueford
      @bobblueford 5 лет назад +2

      I wish everybody felt this way!

    • @girlinterrupted9792
      @girlinterrupted9792 5 лет назад +1

      I was JUST about to comment this! I'm an 80's kid and those movies will ALWAYS have a special place in my heart💙

    • @jedijones
      @jedijones 5 лет назад +1

      @@ThePoorBoy What would've been amazing would have been a Dark Knight Returns adaptation with the older Keaton and Reeve playing the roles.

  • @jasonnewsham7724
    @jasonnewsham7724 5 лет назад +58

    Still an awesome movie to this day.

  • @probitionate
    @probitionate 5 лет назад +37

    TV Trivia: the gal on the train @ 2:20 is Noelle Neill, who played Lois Lane in the 50s television show 'The Adventures of Superman'.

    • @rwarren58
      @rwarren58 5 лет назад +3

      Noelle was also in Superman Returns, her last appearance in a Superman film.

    • @masere
      @masere 5 лет назад +4

      The guy is Kirk Alyn who played Superman in the 1950's, and the little girl is actually Lois Lane as the deleted scene mentions.

  • @jinxy72able
    @jinxy72able 5 лет назад +77

    Louis: You got me, who's got you?
    Superman: Richard Donner.

    • @LucidVision138
      @LucidVision138 5 лет назад +2

      Lmao

    • @jamesclukey7488
      @jamesclukey7488 5 лет назад +4

      Lois ...... spell it right for Christ's sake !

    • @dbmusicproductions7568
      @dbmusicproductions7568 5 лет назад +2

      Superman: “Louis! Oh, gosh! I caught the wrong person! Sorry Louis, I have to drop you and go find Lois. Good luck, now!”

    • @jamesclukey7488
      @jamesclukey7488 5 лет назад

      @@dbmusicproductions7568 Nice !

    • @sk8ernutdw
      @sk8ernutdw 5 лет назад

      @@jamesclukey7488 Oh you mean.. a friend? :D

  • @masonbricke4568
    @masonbricke4568 5 лет назад +43

    Your ending was just hilarious, and your sentiments widely shared.

    • @AT-sd9qq
      @AT-sd9qq 5 лет назад +2

      Totally agree

  • @Geronimo-fv4pv
    @Geronimo-fv4pv 2 месяца назад +2

    I’ve always loved the take off and landing scenes with the Reeve films. Using cables makes it look like he’s actually flying.

  • @SuperCeleste007
    @SuperCeleste007 5 лет назад +40

    Avengers age of Ultron - WTF happened to this movie?

  • @erikramaekers63
    @erikramaekers63 5 лет назад +74

    Superman 2 is the best of the Reeve Superman movies.Great fun.

    • @nordattack
      @nordattack 5 лет назад

      No. Superman 1 was the best, obviously. 2 sucked as did all the others...

  • @jjdigitalvideosolutionsllc5343
    @jjdigitalvideosolutionsllc5343 5 лет назад +29

    WB should fix Superman IV, re-release it, and donate proceeds to spinal injury research in honour of Christopher Reeve.

    • @handsolo1209
      @handsolo1209 5 лет назад +3

      Does WB have a trash can big enough for that shitfest of a movie?

    • @FreeBird_6791
      @FreeBird_6791 5 лет назад

      I don't think it would still work. It would be nice to throw in new special effects but it stole too much from the first two movies to be anything great. Love the soundtrack, though.

    • @evertonporter7887
      @evertonporter7887 5 лет назад

      Superman Returns is the REAL sequel to III as far as I'm concerned.

    • @AstrosElectronicsLab
      @AstrosElectronicsLab 4 года назад

      I can't believe they actually cut a lot of scenes out of IV (which made some of the plot disjointed in my opinion) later after the original was premiered. I remember watching on TV as a kid then seeing it recently on the Blueray release and got the feeling of bits "missing"...

    • @andrewmurray1550
      @andrewmurray1550 4 года назад

      @@handsolo1209 I say remake it - put Ben Affleck in the role of Superman, Arnold Schwarzenegger as Nuclear Man and Jim Carey as Lex Luthor! (that would be an interesting mix...or not.

  • @geomfilms
    @geomfilms 5 лет назад +7

    Very nice behind the scenes and explanation of what went down. Thank you for this edit.

  • @mrch33sehed93
    @mrch33sehed93 5 лет назад +92

    DC will always reign supreme in my book because of Superman: the Movie.
    If that movie wasn't successful, I don't think anyone would attempt a superhero film ever again.

    • @peterp2153
      @peterp2153 5 лет назад +6

      Somebody would’ve but it would’ve taken years.

    • @urielgonzalez900
      @urielgonzalez900 5 лет назад +3

      I mean the 90’s was a very weird decade for superhero movies and they were seen as a joke too

    • @kevindavis3234
      @kevindavis3234 5 лет назад +3

      I feel like the '89 Batman might have been strong enough to jump start the super hero film genre, but that's certainly not to understate how important Superman was. No doubt, it paved the way.

    • @SupahFans
      @SupahFans 5 лет назад +4

      you're right, but it took over a decade for Tim Burton's awesome 1989 Batman film to issue the next superhero movie. It's perfectly appropriate that Superman was the first Comic superhero and film. Subsequently Warner Brothers' Batman series deserves the credit for Hollywood's trend for all the Superheroes on the silver screen.

    • @kevindavis3234
      @kevindavis3234 5 лет назад +1

      @@SupahFans Plus, who knows? Like you said, if Superman had been a bomb, maybe they never would have even made Batman. And that would have been a shame because that movie was everything when I was a kid.

  • @leafyutube
    @leafyutube 5 лет назад +91

    "While today's audience will find the film a bit of a bore..."
    Actually, it's TODAY's comic movies that are a bore.

    • @deborahhanna6640
      @deborahhanna6640 4 года назад +7

      Meh... they change any iconic character any time it suits some beaurucratic pc A-hole or drags out a crap story for 5 more movies. Gotta get the dollars! Nobody wants a great story to end, but a signature of a great story IS that it ends & has a GREAT end. It gives the audience closure.

    • @AstrosElectronicsLab
      @AstrosElectronicsLab 4 года назад +9

      Agreed, 80% of the Marvel movies suck

    • @thedaveanddaveshowlive3765
      @thedaveanddaveshowlive3765 4 года назад

      Astro's Electronics Lab BS!!!! Guess that’s why they’ve made billions in revenue.

    • @cptrobby5700
      @cptrobby5700 4 года назад +7

      Completely agree - those marvel movies are unwatchable to me

    • @GorillaGrodd420
      @GorillaGrodd420 4 года назад

      @@AstrosElectronicsLab They are not that bad.

  • @40some57
    @40some57 5 лет назад +15

    This was brilliantly done - thank you for creating.

  • @BrianMax
    @BrianMax 5 лет назад +12

    Superman and Superman II were the first modern comic book movies. They were well made, had state of the art SFX (for their time), and took the source material seriously.
    Too bad Donner couldn't have finished the movies and edited them for the story he wanted to tell.

    • @-M0LE
      @-M0LE 5 лет назад

      Brian Max he did make his cut of the second one and it’s great

  • @hckneoboom9548
    @hckneoboom9548 5 лет назад +14

    Superman I is my favorite superhero film of all time. I didn't know all of the bad stuff that happened behind the scenes due to Richard Donner not being able to finish the second film. We the audience were in love with the first film and welcome more of that movie magic that came with the first film. Honestly, really enjoyed the 3 villans in the second film which were part of the mythos found in the comics and help move the plot forward. I enjoyed these films until the third one. However, if you want to discuss the film that is truly a disjointed mess in this franchise even with the immortal Christopher D'Olier Reeve reprising the role
    of Superman, look no further than Superman IV: The Quest for Peace.

    • @darkwyve
      @darkwyve 5 лет назад +1

      Yeah, here's a perfect set of scenes of what Christopher Reeve *really* thought when they released Superman IV: The Quest for Peace... ruclips.net/video/jkPwc43-9ic/видео.html

  • @boxcarhobo7017
    @boxcarhobo7017 5 лет назад +7

    The Donner Cut is like getting an alternate reality-version copy of Superman 2 dropped off in our multiverse timeline and finally seeing, almost 4 decades after-the-fact, what other parallel-universes already knew: It's Super, man!

  • @killwalker2474
    @killwalker2474 5 лет назад +15

    Had no idea there was a Richard Donner cut of Superman 2. I HAVE to find it.
    Stupid cling wrap scene was embarassing

    • @zeroman614
      @zeroman614 5 лет назад +2

      Kill Walker the S is for “Saran Wrap”

    • @killwalker2474
      @killwalker2474 5 лет назад +1

      @@zeroman614 lol. I was gonna say Saran wrap but idk if that brand is everywhere.
      Cling wrap rolls off the tongue better too

    • @KevyNova
      @KevyNova 5 лет назад +1

      I bought it the day it was released and I haven't watched the Lester version since.

  • @gk10002000
    @gk10002000 5 лет назад +25

    S1 really was a landmark event. Had to be there to experience it. I was

    • @James-qu6ul
      @James-qu6ul 4 года назад

      True, and there were just so many huge, great movies around that time too. Between 78-82, we had Superman, The Deer Hunter, First Blood, Raiders of the Lost Ark, the original Halloween, Empire Strikes Back (commonly regarded as the best Star Wars film), Blade Runner, Alien, Apocalypse Now (probably one of the the best war movies ever made to this day). And more.

  • @mattstansbeary3068
    @mattstansbeary3068 5 лет назад +21

    lol Love the I can't finish this, while showing all the new Superman movies.

  • @danobrien9947
    @danobrien9947 5 лет назад +8

    The last line absolutely slayed me. Nicely done!

  • @PeterSellers22
    @PeterSellers22 5 лет назад +38

    Superman "a bit of a bore"!? You've completely lost me there 🤨

    • @lukegoldstonofficial1614
      @lukegoldstonofficial1614 4 года назад +5

      PeterSellers22 there are people I know who will find the film a bored, and that would be about 97% of my High School. I haven’t seen the whole movie, but it looks like a work of Art.

    • @akanshajaiswal534
      @akanshajaiswal534 3 года назад +3

      Really another hater of superman

  • @chrisolivo6591
    @chrisolivo6591 5 лет назад +11

    Superman 1978 has one great thing that is lacking in the modern blockbuster: Heart. The movie has heart, has dramatic moments, has great one liners and comedy that is authentic, not gags. The modern blockbuster is all about wowing the crowd and big set action pieces. That is why most modern Blockbusters are forgotten or don’t hold up well. Independence Day was THE Blockbuster of 1996 and now it’s looked at as utterly silly. The reason? The movie has no heart and no developed characters. Superman 1978, Star Wars, Jaws are all great movies because they are limited by technology so they HAD to focus on characters, the story and the script.

    • @bobblueford
      @bobblueford 5 лет назад +2

      👏👏👏👍👍👍

    • @arx117
      @arx117 5 лет назад

      Spiderman 1 and 2 has heart. Man of steel has it but got overpowered by seriousness. You can see when ckark talking to his ma and pa. Also the end scene when clark got job in daily planet

    • @bobblueford
      @bobblueford 5 лет назад

      @Felipe M 👍

    • @DesertBro
      @DesertBro 5 лет назад +1

      No film HAS to focus on characters. Countless crappy "B" flicks have terrible scripts, action, costumes, and effects and yet still turn a profit for the producers. Most "action" flicks have lousy characters - but those movies aren't about characters, they're about ACTION - and super-hero fare falls in that catagory. We are indeed blessed when we get more that just action. Even today, action can be done well, but character?.....that's a fancy hat trick that DC still hasn't figured out for the most part.

  • @frankjanosko9083
    @frankjanosko9083 5 лет назад +4

    When I saw the Richard Donner cut, I was amazed and how different it was and confused about how why it had the same reverse time ending. Thanks for clearing that all up!

  • @rochestertostivesrace1068
    @rochestertostivesrace1068 5 лет назад +9

    Warner Brothers didn't learn from the mistakes made by the Salkinds and that left us with the horror that was Justice League. An unfinished film, mostly rewrote and reshot by another Director, resulting in a product that was a completely different feel from Zach Snyder's vision from MOS and BVS.

  • @lidette711
    @lidette711 5 лет назад +28

    Why are the mistakes from 40 years ago still happening today?
    It's like Warner Brothers never learns.

    • @danpetitpas
      @danpetitpas 5 лет назад +2

      One thing to keep in mind is Warner Bros. for the last 60 years has been a film distributor. It even hands off its own films to other production companies to actually film. The studio makes deals and counts the grosses. But it trusted the wrong people to make its superhero movies.

    • @jedijones
      @jedijones 5 лет назад +2

      Also keep in mind WB didn't fire Donner. This was the Salkinds. Unfortunately what happened to Donner has essentially happened to many directors in recent years under WB, Disney's Lucasfilm, Marvel Studios and others. Directors are considered more interchangeable and replaceable than they have in decades now.

    • @phaneserichthoneus8895
      @phaneserichthoneus8895 5 лет назад +1

      I've always wondered how audiences would react if someone went back to the basics of telling a well-crafted and truly finessed story without sacrificing the modern capabilities of special effects. I don't know. Maybe today's writers really think their stories are fantastic. That's not to say that there aren't some good recent movies. But I'm one who is easily entertained; if a movie has plot holes and inconsistencies, I would never notice it because I always live in the moment when I'm watching a movie; I don't sit there like a hawk looking for the slightest errors. Anyway, I'm digressing....

    • @jedijones
      @jedijones 5 лет назад +2

      @@phaneserichthoneus8895 I do think Ready Player One succeeded very well as a classic 1980s-style adventure movie. It had the emotional subtext underneath the special effects that we remember was prevalent during that era. Audiences seemed to like it, but many just ignored it. Because a big difference today is how much audiences flock to sequels and brand names. Back in the '70s and '80s, people were very skeptical of sequels and seemed more open to new ideas and originality. The biggest hit movies of any year back then were rarely sequels. Now they almost always are.

    • @phaneserichthoneus8895
      @phaneserichthoneus8895 5 лет назад

      @@jedijones Ah, I haven't seen that movie yet, but I've been wanting to. Yes, I imagine Spielberg still has it. lol

  • @JLvatron
    @JLvatron 5 лет назад +13

    Fantastic work and research on this video. Thank you!

  • @ApeLikeCreature
    @ApeLikeCreature 5 лет назад +15

    Superman 1 is THE GREATEST comic book film ever made! (even with the old effects) Spiderman 2, Ironman and The Dark Knight are close behind.

  • @davidecapps65
    @davidecapps65 5 лет назад +12

    I don’t anyone will ever encapsulate Superman’s character as well as Christopher Reeve did it.

    • @freedomlover9560
      @freedomlover9560 5 лет назад +1

      Completely agree here. I'm an 80s kid and Reeve will always be my Superman. However, no one will ever be able to touch Tom Welling as far as the role of Clark Kent is concerned.

  • @ronniejdio9411
    @ronniejdio9411 5 лет назад +24

    Say what you want about II ... stamp hackman and reeve make this film a classic

    • @AlexOjideagu2
      @AlexOjideagu2 5 лет назад +4

      Superman 2 is the superior movie, it's only hipsters who try and attack it

  • @standepain
    @standepain 5 лет назад +1

    Superman flying off after he saves Lois and the helicopter is still the best bit of flying I have ever seen.

  • @BlacKnightRising
    @BlacKnightRising 5 лет назад +8

    I can't help seeing these clips without hearing Lex Luthor yelling MS. TESSMACHER!!!!!!! hehe

  • @SIKE01
    @SIKE01 5 лет назад +16

    every time I see a great superhero movie, I quietly thank RICHARD DONNER.

  • @B.O.L.A
    @B.O.L.A 5 лет назад +5

    The older this film gets the better it becomes. Perhaps the best personification of intelligence, heart and perfect comedic timing. He makes you fall in love with his character that no other actor has done.His suit is so simple yet perfect for his time, iconic!!!

  • @justiniansnow8919
    @justiniansnow8919 5 лет назад +17

    I've seen both versions of Superman 2, but in the non-Donner cut there is one scene that just stood out. That moment after Clark "falls" into the fire, and Lois finally realizes that he is Superman. That moment when he has his back turned to her, shoulders down. Then his shoulders straighten up, he turns around and takes off his glasses. The music starts playing...and just wow. THAT was such an incredible scene. It still gives me goosebumps.
    The scene in question:ruclips.net/video/mRbenFBoPwA/видео.html
    And again, no, this wasn't in the Donner cut.

    • @Jdbutcher40
      @Jdbutcher40 5 лет назад +2

      I agree I prefer that version cuz there's so many other classic seems like the Niagara Falls scene with a little boy Falls that is one of the key scenes for me and also at the end where he's fine with the American flag with the Superman song in the background so many iconic scenes that that version had in it but that seemed that you were talking about to me was a very good way to reveal himself to her

    • @dhenderson1810
      @dhenderson1810 5 лет назад +3

      It was better than her jumping out of the window.

    • @jedijones
      @jedijones 5 лет назад

      I'd argue that Reeve and Kidder have better chemistry in all the new scenes they shot under Lester for Superman 2. I think this was just a result of them having more confidence and comfort with each other than they did in the first film. They are now feeling very sure that everything they're doing is working after they saw part 1's success. Kidder especially seems much more relaxed in these scenes than she did in Donner's scenes.

    • @Jason-me1bs
      @Jason-me1bs 5 лет назад +1

      To be fair the Donner cut was made from test footage years later. If he had had the time to do it properly it would have been way better because as a story it’s by far better than the actual theatrical version we got. So many shit things wrong with it and although I do love it, in comparison to Superman the movie, Superman 2 is way off.

  • @ssgoku7192
    @ssgoku7192 5 лет назад +35

    The donner cut came out months after I was born
    I was born May 13 2006 and I’m 13 and I love superman
    Of course mostly Christopher reeve

    • @lablueguy2000
      @lablueguy2000 5 лет назад +1

      you're almost the same age as my daughter, her birthday is September.

    • @insanenative445
      @insanenative445 5 лет назад

      @@lablueguy2000 that's a 400 year old man don't believe RUclips comments😂

    • @lablueguy2000
      @lablueguy2000 5 лет назад

      @@insanenative445 a 400 year old man with a SON GOKU profile pic?? yeah right. 😜😜😜

  • @TheDealMaster
    @TheDealMaster 3 года назад +5

    Nice work on this video, JoBlo. Superman II turned out great by both directors... I like both versions, partially due to when I grew up (with the Lester cut). But the Donner cut was certainly closer to what the movie was supposed to be.

  • @MrSteeljazz
    @MrSteeljazz 5 лет назад +17

    Good documentary. Your ending was hilarious. 😂😂😂

  • @liveuntetheredmusepodcast4832
    @liveuntetheredmusepodcast4832 5 лет назад +8

    One of the greatest Superman movies of all time! Chris will always be the only Superman!

  • @seaoforange09
    @seaoforange09 5 лет назад +6

    😂”...Since then, Superman, the patron saint of comic books, has been treated with the outmost respect and care that I I I I can’t even finish this sentence...”

  • @bryonmoffett523
    @bryonmoffett523 5 лет назад +7

    This vid doc was Superbly done! I never heard about the Donner cut. Thank you!

    • @eastdragon42
      @eastdragon42 5 лет назад

      Nor had I. Have to look for this cut now...!

  • @Moviefan2k4
    @Moviefan2k4 5 лет назад +39

    While the Donner Cut has many elements that are superior to Lester's version, it still feels more like an experiment instead of a complete film. I think the best possible version of "Superman II" would include footage from both in a careful balance.

    • @ironcrosstrainingltd6482
      @ironcrosstrainingltd6482 5 лет назад +5

      Agreed

    • @TheLAGopher
      @TheLAGopher 5 лет назад +9

      I also agree. The Donner cut is a perfect example of letting grudges, understandable on Donner's part,change what should have been a fix of Superman 2,into making it almost fan fiction. I honestly think the Paris scene was a better opening then the Donner scene, because it suggested that more time had passed since the first film, allowing time for Lex to be tried and convicted. I also think its better that Superman's actions from that movie free Zod and not his actions from the prior film.Cut out the slapstick and add Jor-El back into the film. I like the Donner version of Lois revealing Clark's secret,but I have a hard time getting past it being screen test footage so I could go either way with the Lester version.Otherwise go with the Donner cut and John Williams score. But I would stick with the Lester ending involving the kiss because it makes the film an actual sequel to Superman The Movie and not more of an alternate version of Superman 2. I like a Donner/Lester version final battle at the fortress where the plastic "S" is removed and the Phantom Zoners are depowered and turned over to the authorities with Luthor before Superman destroys the Fortress, and takes Lois back to Metropolis before using "The kiss" to wipe her memory. It basically would be Superman severing his final connection to Krypton and resetting his relationship with Lois without wiping out the actions of General Zod. The Superman carrying the American flag scene when he is helping to repair the White House was a great ending to the Lester version as it had Superman admitting he had let the world down when he depowered himself and he was recommitting himself to defending his adopted home, Earth. By rolling back time to where Zod never left the Phantom Zone, the Donner version has Superman not really learning a lesson about never abandoning his mission and having the world pay for it.That should have driven Superman going forward into a third movie.

    • @markmarderosian4025
      @markmarderosian4025 5 лет назад +5

      @@TheLAGopher Well said! Esp the part about Superman learning a lesson, recommitting himself. And that part carrying the flag! I saw the movie second night in sold-out theater and the audience jumped and cheered when that scene came on.

    • @bobblueford
      @bobblueford 5 лет назад +3

      @@TheLAGopher I agree with everything, except where Lois tricks Supes into revealing himself. That makes him look like a fool for falling for it. Also he knows she's not stupid enough to attempt murder on a hunch. The rug tripping was better, because he wanted to reveal himself because he hated lying to her...as she explains in the movie.

    • @marianoyuba3736
      @marianoyuba3736 5 лет назад +3

      Exactly! For example, I would use the Lester Paris opening, the scene at the Daily Planet with Lois calling Clark out, the entire Falls plot (including Lester's reveal), all of the Brando material, all of the Donnner Zod material (Some of Lester's is fine, but his Zod was generally goofier, whereas Donner's was terrifying all throughout), Donner's version of the final fight (Metropolis and Fortress), and Lester's ending (Kiss and White House). That, to me, would pretty much be a perfect version!

  • @DannyBoy443
    @DannyBoy443 5 лет назад +13

    The beautiful blonde in the orange dress melon shopping is secretly one of the greatest lost pieces of film ever lol. #Truth

  • @CesarTorres13
    @CesarTorres13 5 лет назад +5

    This was one of my favorite videos of yours. Well researched and presented nicely. More please!

    • @TunkTheTank
      @TunkTheTank 5 лет назад

      Thank you. Glad you enjoyed it.

  • @coreyoz
    @coreyoz 5 лет назад +5

    I don't ever recall seeing Terrance Stamp with anything other than gray hair so I never did the math on him being Zod, the first thing I've ever seen him in.
    Tricks on me

  • @riftshredder5438
    @riftshredder5438 3 года назад +4

    At least we got the Donner Cut before his death

  • @OldMovieRob
    @OldMovieRob 5 лет назад +10

    Hard to imagine John Williams not getting along with a director. He seems like such a quiet, good-natured guy that it's just difficult to imagine.

    • @jedijones
      @jedijones 5 лет назад

      I believe Williams' statement was "I can't work with him" and that the issue was that Lester was simply pointing to cues Williams had done for part 1 and telling John that he wanted them cut and pasted onto certain scenes in part 2, exactly what Lester ended up having Ken Thorne do. The problem might've been that Lester had directed Beatles documentaries where he learned how to take existing music and place it onto new scenes. Obviously that is not the way Williams likes to score a movie.

    • @valley_robot
      @valley_robot 5 лет назад

      Everybody has a breaking point , even the quietest meekest people

    • @MJLOVEnow
      @MJLOVEnow 5 лет назад

      That they actually got into a fight!

    • @cubdukat
      @cubdukat 5 лет назад

      Williams used the excuse that he was tied up with "The Empire Strikes Back" scoring sessions to get out of dealing with Richard Lester, but it was common knowledge that he quit out of loyalty to Richard Donner.