Eddie Van Halen wrote some of his best music and toured the world and made an ass ton of money on a guitar he built from a $50 body and a $75 neck. Food for thought.
@@PeterLichOfficial keep in mind though, a fender strat was 300 or more 70's dollars edit: that would equate to close to 2000 in today's money. You can get a mitchell from guitar center for 300 in todays money that will stand up to most guitars twice its price or more.
@@ethanbilby9173 I never made any kind of argument to say that cheap guitars are good or bad, I was just pointing out that $50 + $75 is not the same as it was in the 1970s. Also while those guitars hold up from a construction perspective for their money, a decent set of pickups and a OFR will set you back at least $300. So hardware is definitely an issue on those cheap guitars.
Michael P. is awesome and down to earth as always. I love that he pulls up the "well not everyone can afford $3500" point. The PRS is not worth it unless $3000 difference is pocket change for you. Fret edges and nuts can be smoothed out. Pickups can be replaced. You can tell he's a teacher and thinking of new players.
You know I agree to a point, and years ago I would of agreed even more. Maybe it is now that I have been able to afford and own a custom 24 both US and Korean that my agreement shrinks a little. You certianly aren't wrong ,fret edges can be filed, frets can be leveled and polished, pickups can be changed, a good setup can be done. All that is true. I learned to do my own fret work as I had swveral old used guitars that needed it and it costs a lot to have them sent out to somebody. I didn't grow up having the ability to afford nice things, so I've always had the mindset of making do with what you can afford and learning how to improve things to make them better than they originally were. Fast forward to now and I'm almost 40. When I got my PRS SECU24 it was an eye opening experience. It played so well, the frets were level and polished, the action was amazing, ect ect. Now even the Korean SE was not a "cheap guitar", at least not by my standards. It is currently setup to the same specs as my US CU 24. As amazing as it os, and despite being setup as similar as possible... there is still something about the US PRS that is just... well nicer. The feel, the tone, the way my hand interacts with the fretboard... and several other small things add up to a better more enjoyable playing experience. I'm not saying everyone should go buy, or needs a $3500-$6500 guitar. But if you can reasonably and responsibly afford one... I dont think you'll regret it, and if you're a seasoned player you will notice a difference. Is it a 4-8xs better difference... well no. There is a difference though, and I'm glad I spent the money on an used US Custom 24. No refrets.
This had the potential to be pretty awkward but the two reps were honest and respectful and it was a fun conversation. In the end, they are both right: you buy the guitar that feels and sounds the best for you and that fits your circumstances best. I spent half of my playing years on a Gibson SG, and the other half on a Strat (I sold my SG). I now am thinking of getting and S style guitar as a secondary one because I miss that sound but will probably not buy a Gibson again, just a lower end version because that's good enough for the sound I want. I can afford a Gibson or PRS or whatever really but why bother, I just play in my living room.
Dillion and Epiphone make fabulous SG style guitars for not much Money. A Dillion is my #1. Slapped some Duncans in it and it's way more guitar than I need.
To be honest, one of my favorite guitars that I own is my Squire Strat that I bought in the 90s for about $180. I added a new hum bucker to it, but other that that it's all stock still, and it's awesome.
I think I'd be much less upset if my $200 guitar were stolen or damaged, and the fret ends can be files, nuts can be shaped. I'd rather have several different mid priced guitars over one $3000 guitar, but that's just me
A good argument I agree but when you own a guitar like that you just can’t live without it , No other guitar will give you that feeling of experience I don’t think it’s easy to put into words why
@@kevinowen9317 I've seen that too. I saw a guy who plays nice Strats in the studio and in videos. He takes a Squire to gigs. Better to have that stolen than a $5000 or more vintage guitar!👍😎🎸🎶
Good points but you're missing one. Harleys are really good to mod the heck out of them to the point that there will be no difference. You just have to buy some stuff like pickups, keys (although they're pretty good already) then go to a luthier to make it feel better with frets for example and you are done. For MUCH less than you would spend on an original guitar and also you can make it something that is truly yours. Of course at the end of the day PRS is PRS but you get the point :)
Harley Benton guitars are soooo good and cheap out of the box, that I had zero hesitations to try work with the frets by myself. I bought stainless steel frets and suitable tools from Aliexpress for like 20USD, refretted my SC-1000, leveled frets and it plays even better than before.
Too many players today get wrapped up in buying a name instead of a guitar. They want to satisfy their ego and brag about owning an expensive guitar. However there are plenty of cheaper guitars out there that are just as good for a lot less
I know some one who can afford expensive amps and expensive guitars...he buys them of giging musicians around town makes him feel like he is part of the music scenery even though he can only strum an open c in a very bad clumsy way...
@@metalhead4282 Yeah, I might have exaggerated a bit. They definitely can't smoke the PRSs, but they can definitely make the PRSs look bad for the price. They're basically 80-85% the same guitar for like 1/4th the price.
Fret edges and capo stuffs are just as easy to fix as any experienced guitarist can do it by himself. If are THESE the only differences you find, maybe it's time to reconsider the whole guitar market. Harley Benton's are good by their own and the perfect starting point for any customizations. I'd go for them in any way! Spend your money in guitar lessons, be a better guitarist.
My son has an Epiphone Les Paul Custom that has been upgraded with better pots and wiring, pickups and hardware than the current Gibson Les Paul Custom and blows them away and has just about $1000 in it and any musician we know would tell you it's better than a Gibson costing four times as much.
Thanks TTK. What I got out of this was we as consumers may be loosing sight in the value of hearing our favorite musicians live. You REALLY enjoyed the luve play which i am sure was 100 percent better than what I heard via you tube compression and headphones. Two great questions addressing both ends of the spectrum and well answered by your guest's.
I would like to know how the Harley benton CST 24 stands up against the Korean PRS SC custom 24, which is the closest in terms of price. That would be more interesting!
I’m a gigging musician brought a Fender, Danelectro and Harley Benton last night, played all three , the Harley Benton HB 35 ended up being in my hand over 70 % of the time .
What a great video and conversation! The initial jamming was awesome too. Kris and Mike are some of my favorite RUclips guitar players. And the Tone King is awesome too
Great video. I bought a Gretsch Duo Jet a year ago. I could play a gig with an Electromatic or a MIM Fender and sound decent, but the difference in quality is really worth it.
This video surprised me. I've been looking at both the PRS Mira and and Harley Benton 335. It grew into something I don't think was expected. It was great to watch the interaction and openness of it all. NIce work, gentlemen. Thank you. Oh, I've decided not to get either. Of course, I'll probably change my mind in a week. I enjoyed this. :)
It's awesome seeing guys just be real instead of trying to figure out how to shoehorn their company's marketing jargon or selling points into a conversation. Damn refreshing.
I did a refret job on an old Harley Benton strat, changed the nut and hardware, a full setup. Now it plays and sounds better that a lot of USA Fender that i had in my hands. The guitar cost 80€, now with the new stuff it slike 250€.
Great video, you guys hit a lot of points others have missed. I watched the video shaking my head, like, finally someone made the point I was thinking about. Young players today are so lucky. When I was growing up we had really bad beginner and non-professional gear at really high prices. It is so much easier to get a good guitar at a great price nowadays. Thanks.
Excellent presentation TK. “I can’t believe this is 200”, kinda says it all. If you can afford a PRS, you will not be disappointed. However, the HB provides a quality low budget guitar.
I love Harley Benton. I've got one of there 2x12 cabs. I just loaded it with two Celestion v type.. honestly, the best sounding cab I've ever had. It'll keep up with any of the big boy brands, easily!
I select guitars for the wood, neck and playability. After throw out electronics, change the nut, the pickups. Do fretwork, take a decent tremblock and you can have a great guitar for 600 euros and its on par with the expensive brands.
This was a refreshingly honest take, and in line with what I'd expect. There's diminishing returns when the price goes up, but the best is still the best. So it's great for those who can afford it. I've got all my instruments in storage abroad and a Harley Benton Fusion with splittable pickups seems like a good replacement for all round use that could be upgraded in the future.
That was perfect. Split a box of guitars from harley benton with my brother about a month ago. We were both suprised by the guality they really are a fantastic value. I would love to own a Prs but i don't have an extra 3500 laying around
Excellent video! Thank you for your candid comments. My feeling is the same, with one addition. Try all of the guitars your LGS, including any of the pre-owned guitars and buy the best one to fit your needs and that your budget allows so that you don't have any "should of, would of, or could of" regrets. Hats off to the three of you!
This was a great format. Great information. I have several guitars from several niche markets shall we say. There are so many offerings for so many tastes as well as budgets. I’m glad... I have stuff from vintage Gibson to a HB TE-20. They are all fun to play and at the end of the day..... that’s my bottom line. Thanks for the vid guys.
PRS has always been one of my fav brands. I’ve only owned SE’s, though. I have one now - one of the new PRS Paul’s Guitars SE version. I really like the guitar and it is beautiful. Recently, I purchased a HB SE40 Telecaster-like guitar with humbucker pu’s. I have to say the HB is one outstanding value. It has awesome tone and excellent intonation.
Are you sure it's not a TE40 ??. I am still not sure which to buy the Harley Benton TE40 or the TE52. Hopefully I can decide and order one very soon.😉😊
I have HB Emerrald Flame. I love tthe guitar and the sound it makes.A beautiful guitar. Can't afford a PRS. Fret edges need attention, but once sorted it feels fine.
Mucho thanks to each of the representatives. They did a good job of handling what could have been a difficult situation.... This is exactly what I was hoping they would find out. Is there a difference, absolutely, is the difference in cost worth it yes, if you can afford it and if you can't afford it then you have an option. The whole reason for both of these models. One is for affordability the other is for those that can afford it. Thanks TTK.
This is a great video, unbiased approach from these guys. Absolutely amazing, we need more videos like this. Honesty is always best policy. I can only afford a harley benton and would still buy one even if I was a millionaire but, if I had the money, I wouldn't think twice about buying a prs custom shop either.
The prs just has that snap , but the HB isn’t really in the same target market. The HB is a great mod platform for someone learning. Maybe even gigable for most working musicians. At the end of the day it’s all just wood and magnets, and tone and talent really comes from the user talent and the amp. Amp is way more important than guitar in the mix in a band setting.
Ahhh !! this is totally briliant -- finally I am hearing continuous great points and thinking about this subject inside a video on this such a subject --- thank you --- this is right level of discussion about this topic - wonderful !! and intelligent !!
great advice. 'buy the thing that feels the best, that you can afford'. you can always shape the tone you want with amps, guitar modellers and processors.
Thats one of the strongest arguments for cheap guitars: you don't have to be afraid to really go into it and learn all that stuff. Just try out to do a fretjob, fine-tune a nut, change pickups, maybe even sand down the neck. It's not rocket science. Make it your own.
I bought a few $50-100 guitars to practice fret work on.... I can now sufficiently level, crown and polish frets... I gotta tell you I am blown away by how effective it is! I have a tiesco style 60’s cheap beginner guitar, and I got the action just as low as my Gibson sg standard. Main thing for playability is 100% the neck!
Great video Tone King , I would love to own a PRS but can't afford one.I bought the Harley Benton CST-24 Paradise Amber Flame instead and boy was it a great buy.
Added a new (LP type) guitar to my existing guitars last week... Searched for Dual Humbuckers for all 2022... (No hurry)... and when made final decision, based on 3x Tones... The 3rd fret was snagging finger ? No problem ! Manager / Owner of shop got the file out and fixed in seconds... Of Five guitars ????? Three acoustics/electric and two electrics... only ONE guitar I can say was without ANY blemish on day of purchase and another two had tiny blemishes in the 'paint' / 'varnish'... I still bought them !! Gotta live in the real world. Luv all my guitars. Each has a purpose. Same my three AMPs... Thanks to the "Team" for presentation... Two NICE guitars !! ... Really enjoyed... 🤠...
Benton could play like a $3000 guitar, or PRS like a $200. Sometime at the end of the day you end up learning that the tone is not in the brand of your gear, it is in the practice and in your hands, no more no less.
I have Gibsons and Fenders but my go to is a Harley Benton! Admittedly Ive upgraded a few things but it sounds and feels nice to me and its very adaptable
Great video and very valid points. Since I can’t afford a PRS and only play at home, I would get the Harley Benton massage the neck and frets and maybe change pickups and have a great player that’s right for me.
What these guys are saying about “the feel” of the guitar “in your hands” is what counts is very real. We all would like to get the expensive guitar, but it might not be the one we enjoy playing the most.
I bought a Harley Benton for $154, paid my Luthier $140 to make a bone nut and make the frets perfect, and then added locking tuners for $100. Now I have a killer guitar for less than $400. Couldn’t be happier!
Great video, it was so great I subbed! I have to say this was one of the most honest comparison video's I've seen! The Harley Benton guy sure seemed to like that PRS lol. What's odd to me is when people complain about Gibson being too high priced but how much is that PRS again? I own 6 Gibson Les Paul's and love every one of them. The most expensive one was brand new and cost $1500, my cheapest one cost me $400 and when the pups work I love it lol. Obviously for $400 it has problems and thats why i got it so cheap. At the same time, I have Epiphone Les Pauls and love them as well and those I bought brand new and the most expensive one was about $1,000 . There are subtle differences between the Gibson and the Epiphone that I notice, but I still love them each the same. I also have a $300 Gretsch LP style I bought used and it's great and I have a $300 Ibanez Iceman I bought brand new, it plays just as good as any other guitar I own and I love it... Price doesn't make a great guitar, it may make a "quality" guitar though! in 10 years let's see how that Harley Benton has stood up and then compare it to the PRS.
This is how gentlemen conduct themselves. Great video lads - thanks.
#BOOM
Gibson: can’t relate.
@@davidhurtado2725 R O F L. This comment deserves a fucking medal.
@@FloridaManRacer absolutely
Eddie Van Halen wrote some of his best music and toured the world and made an ass ton of money on a guitar he built from a $50 body and a $75 neck. Food for thought.
And Jimmy Page played an inexpensive Danelectro guitar and an inexpensive Harmony acoustic guitar.
Something to remember is that it was $50 + $75 in 1974. That's about $650 now for the body and neck - still crazy cheap but something to consider.
@@PeterLichOfficial true, but you also need to consider that the quality of cheap guitars has improved vastly in recent times
@@PeterLichOfficial keep in mind though, a fender strat was 300 or more 70's dollars
edit: that would equate to close to 2000 in today's money. You can get a mitchell from guitar center for 300 in todays money that will stand up to most guitars twice its price or more.
@@ethanbilby9173 I never made any kind of argument to say that cheap guitars are good or bad, I was just pointing out that $50 + $75 is not the same as it was in the 1970s.
Also while those guitars hold up from a construction perspective for their money, a decent set of pickups and a OFR will set you back at least $300. So hardware is definitely an issue on those cheap guitars.
There is so much sage advice here. Thank you Tone King, Mike and Kris. I really enjoyed watching and learning.
//Andy
what model nbr was the Harley Benton
CST-24T P90 Black Flame
Love mine! (Ocean flame)
Thanks so much!
Michael P. is awesome and down to earth as always. I love that he pulls up the "well not everyone can afford $3500" point. The PRS is not worth it unless $3000 difference is pocket change for you. Fret edges and nuts can be smoothed out. Pickups can be replaced. You can tell he's a teacher and thinking of new players.
You know I agree to a point, and years ago I would of agreed even more. Maybe it is now that I have been able to afford and own a custom 24 both US and Korean that my agreement shrinks a little.
You certianly aren't wrong ,fret edges can be filed, frets can be leveled and polished, pickups can be changed, a good setup can be done. All that is true. I learned to do my own fret work as I had swveral old used guitars that needed it and it costs a lot to have them sent out to somebody. I didn't grow up having the ability to afford nice things, so I've always had the mindset of making do with what you can afford and learning how to improve things to make them better than they originally were.
Fast forward to now and I'm almost 40. When I got my PRS SECU24 it was an eye opening experience. It played so well, the frets were level and polished, the action was amazing, ect ect.
Now even the Korean SE was not a "cheap guitar", at least not by my standards. It is currently setup to the same specs as my US CU 24. As amazing as it os, and despite being setup as similar as possible... there is still something about the US PRS that is just... well nicer. The feel, the tone, the way my hand interacts with the fretboard... and several other small things add up to a better more enjoyable playing experience.
I'm not saying everyone should go buy, or needs a $3500-$6500 guitar. But if you can reasonably and responsibly afford one... I dont think you'll regret it, and if you're a seasoned player you will notice a difference. Is it a 4-8xs better difference... well no. There is a difference though, and I'm glad I spent the money on an used US Custom 24. No refrets.
This had the potential to be pretty awkward but the two reps were honest and respectful and it was a fun conversation. In the end, they are both right: you buy the guitar that feels and sounds the best for you and that fits your circumstances best. I spent half of my playing years on a Gibson SG, and the other half on a Strat (I sold my SG). I now am thinking of getting and S style guitar as a secondary one because I miss that sound but will probably not buy a Gibson again, just a lower end version because that's good enough for the sound I want. I can afford a Gibson or PRS or whatever really but why bother, I just play in my living room.
Dillion and Epiphone make fabulous SG style guitars for not much Money. A Dillion is my #1. Slapped some Duncans in it and it's way more guitar than I need.
To be honest, one of my favorite guitars that I own is my Squire Strat that I bought in the 90s for about $180. I added a new hum bucker to it, but other that that it's all stock still, and it's awesome.
I think I'd be much less upset if my $200 guitar were stolen or damaged, and the fret ends can be files, nuts can be shaped. I'd rather have several different mid priced guitars over one $3000 guitar, but that's just me
Absolutely, I'd be terrified in case the kids knocked over or I drunkenly bumped a PRS - with cheaper guitars can just enjoy them and rock out.
That is why a lot of bands are using cheaper guitars on tour.
Totally agree, that is my motto and that's what I buy.
A good argument I agree but when you own a guitar like that you just can’t live without it , No other guitar will give you that feeling of experience I don’t think it’s easy to put into words why
@@kevinowen9317 I've seen that too. I saw a guy who plays nice Strats in the studio and in videos. He takes a Squire to gigs. Better to have that stolen than a $5000 or more vintage guitar!👍😎🎸🎶
Good points but you're missing one. Harleys are really good to mod the heck out of them to the point that there will be no difference. You just have to buy some stuff like pickups, keys (although they're pretty good already) then go to a luthier to make it feel better with frets for example and you are done. For MUCH less than you would spend on an original guitar and also you can make it something that is truly yours. Of course at the end of the day PRS is PRS but you get the point :)
You're right about the keys - lots of Harley Benton models come with Grover tuners, same as you'd find on a $3,000 Gibson.
have to agree with LiSowSky. if money is no object buy the PRS. But an upgraded HB can come pretty close at a fraction of the cost.
Harley Benton guitars are soooo good and cheap out of the box, that I had zero hesitations to try work with the frets by myself. I bought stainless steel frets and suitable tools from Aliexpress for like 20USD, refretted my SC-1000, leveled frets and it plays even better than before.
Too many players today get wrapped up in buying a name instead of a guitar. They want to satisfy their ego and brag about owning an expensive guitar. However there are plenty of cheaper guitars out there that are just as good for a lot less
That's not the case with PRS. The craftsmanship and work that goes into those guitars are phenomenal.
Very true!! Spend more money on excellent amps/effects than on some overpriced guitar!!
Not "cheaper", less expensive.
@@Mr.56Goldtop semantics
I know some one who can afford expensive amps and expensive guitars...he buys them of giging musicians around town makes him feel like he is part of the music scenery even though he can only strum an open c in a very bad clumsy way...
Two really honest guys being as kind and professional as possible talking about the other brand. That was a very enjoyable video.
I loved this video. No BS. Two guitarists talking about the guitarist experience instead of just the guitars.
Man. Music is magic. I loved this format so much more than I thought I would when it started.
everyone always puts the HB against the wallet destroying USA PRS... i'd love to see the $250 vs $500 comparison with the HB going against PRS SE
Great idea!
That doesn't ever happen because HB would definitely smoke the PRS SE and make them look bad for that price.
Ryan McCarthy not true at all
@@metalhead4282 Yeah, I might have exaggerated a bit. They definitely can't smoke the PRSs, but they can definitely make the PRSs look bad for the price. They're basically 80-85% the same guitar for like 1/4th the price.
@@mcr0741 ok that's relatable
Fret edges and capo stuffs are just as easy to fix as any experienced guitarist can do it by himself.
If are THESE the only differences you find, maybe it's time to reconsider the whole guitar market.
Harley Benton's are good by their own and the perfect starting point for any customizations. I'd go for them in any way!
Spend your money in guitar lessons, be a better guitarist.
My son has an Epiphone Les Paul Custom that has been upgraded with better pots and wiring, pickups and hardware than the current Gibson Les Paul Custom and blows them away and has just about $1000 in it and any musician we know would tell you it's better than a Gibson costing four times as much.
Thanks TTK. What I got out of this was we as consumers may be loosing sight in the value of hearing our favorite musicians live. You REALLY enjoyed the luve play which i am sure was 100 percent better than what I heard via you tube compression and headphones. Two great questions addressing both ends of the spectrum and well answered by your guest's.
This video is amazing! Supreme respect from two great players and honest assessment of the nuances of the guitars!!
Hi Tone King, I think this is your best video ever. And I follow your channel for quite a few years now!
Great video and great questions TK. Very insightful and informative. Cheers
Thanks Tone king!!! SO much fun doing this vid with you!
we need more of this format
Krauser so true! More of these with various brands
There already a thousand of these. I don't think any company or guitar has been left out in a shoot out.
This was one of the most enjoyable videos you’ve ever done. Loved it 👍🏻
I would like to know how the Harley benton CST 24 stands up against the Korean PRS SC custom 24, which is the closest in terms of price. That would be more interesting!
yes, it's a lame review, terrible miking also in a brick barn.
Nice video man. Whoa these guys can play hey! 😀
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Thanks! You're not too shabby yourself :)
Thanks a lot Michael! It means a lot coming from you! 😄
Thanks a lot! Much appreciated! 😍
intheblues Can you buy Harley Benton in Australia?
Both really cool guys and a really good chat.
I’m a gigging musician brought a Fender, Danelectro and Harley Benton last night, played all three , the Harley Benton HB 35 ended up being in my hand over 70 % of the time .
What a great video and conversation! The initial jamming was awesome too. Kris and Mike are some of my favorite RUclips guitar players. And the Tone King is awesome too
Great video. I bought a Gretsch Duo Jet a year ago. I could play a gig with an Electromatic or a MIM Fender and sound decent, but the difference in quality is really worth it.
This video surprised me. I've been looking at both the PRS Mira and and Harley Benton 335. It grew into something I don't think was expected. It was great to watch the interaction and openness of it all. NIce work, gentlemen. Thank you. Oh, I've decided not to get either. Of course, I'll probably change my mind in a week. I enjoyed this. :)
If Harley BentonTook Even More care of the Details & added another 100 Euros It would still be good Value Compaired to 2500 PRS EUROS
Very happy with my H.B. SC-Custom. I took care of the fret ends and setup myself...
Great. Looking forward to the rest of your Guitcon videos.
same here man. TTK always has great videos from events like these.
This is an absolutely fantastic video! Thank you for making/posting it!
It's awesome seeing guys just be real instead of trying to figure out how to shoehorn their company's marketing jargon or selling points into a conversation. Damn refreshing.
I did a refret job on an old Harley Benton strat, changed the nut and hardware, a full setup. Now it plays and sounds better that a lot of USA Fender that i had in my hands. The guitar cost 80€, now with the new stuff it slike 250€.
Great video, you guys hit a lot of points others have missed. I watched the video shaking my head, like, finally someone made the point I was thinking about.
Young players today are so lucky. When I was growing up we had really bad beginner and non-professional gear at really high prices. It is so much easier to get a good guitar at a great price nowadays. Thanks.
Great job as always TTK, love your stuff.
"Don't be afraid of used gear" - great advice at the end there - most of my guitars were bought used - more guitar for less money usually.
Great video TTK! Thank you for doing all what you are doing the way you are doing it!
Excellent presentation TK. “I can’t believe this is 200”, kinda says it all. If you can afford a PRS, you will not be disappointed. However, the HB provides a quality low budget guitar.
What a fun and original concept for a video, good job :)
Very honest reviews! I could appreciate where both guys were coming from.
this video is so damn enjoyable! i love the honesty and the confrontation with the topic in general :) thanks guys! alot!
I love Harley Benton. I've got one of there 2x12 cabs. I just loaded it with two Celestion v type.. honestly, the best sounding cab I've ever had. It'll keep up with any of the big boy brands, easily!
Great video TK, their honesty is refreshing and the advice is sound. Don’t look at the price, make etc okay it and get the one you like the best.
Excellent video. Great information and first class musicians. I really enjoyed watching and listening!
So refreshing! Thanks to the 2 reps for this brutal honesty and mutual respect. Enjoyed it!
I select guitars for the wood, neck and playability. After throw out electronics, change the nut, the pickups. Do fretwork, take a decent tremblock and you can have a great guitar for 600 euros and its on par with the expensive brands.
This was just a fantastic video! No notes! I appreciate both of their honesty and you conducted the whole thing beautifully!
This was a refreshingly honest take, and in line with what I'd expect. There's diminishing returns when the price goes up, but the best is still the best. So it's great for those who can afford it. I've got all my instruments in storage abroad and a Harley Benton Fusion with splittable pickups seems like a good replacement for all round use that could be upgraded in the future.
I'm only 3 minutes in and I don't care what their answers are.
All I see are two men having fun jamming out together.
That was really good - very enjoyable, nice format too
That was perfect. Split a box of guitars from harley benton with my brother about a month ago. We were both suprised by the guality they really are a fantastic value. I would love to own a Prs but i don't have an extra 3500 laying around
Enjoyable video. Great points articulated by BOTH sides!
Excellent video! Thank you for your candid comments. My feeling is the same, with one addition. Try all of the guitars your LGS, including any of the pre-owned guitars and buy the best one to fit your needs and that your budget allows so that you don't have any "should of, would of, or could of" regrets. Hats off to the three of you!
This was a great format. Great information. I have several guitars from several niche markets shall we say. There are so many offerings for so many tastes as well as budgets. I’m glad... I have stuff from vintage Gibson to a HB TE-20. They are all fun to play and at the end of the day..... that’s my bottom line. Thanks for the vid guys.
Great video. Prob would've better if they used similar gear- they're playing with different pickup types and different amps
PRS has always been one of my fav brands. I’ve only owned SE’s, though. I have one now - one of the new PRS Paul’s Guitars SE version. I really like the guitar and it is beautiful. Recently, I purchased a HB SE40 Telecaster-like guitar with humbucker pu’s. I have to say the HB is one outstanding value. It has awesome tone and excellent intonation.
Are you sure it's not a TE40 ??. I am still not sure which to buy the Harley Benton TE40 or the TE52. Hopefully I can decide and order one very soon.😉😊
Really good video.
Thanks TK, Thomman, and PRS.
One of the best reviews I've seen. Thanks!
I have HB Emerrald Flame. I love tthe guitar and the sound it makes.A beautiful guitar. Can't afford a PRS. Fret edges need attention, but once sorted it feels fine.
Great video! Thanks very much. I’ve just ordered a beautiful Harley Benton CST24-T which I’m sure that I will enjoy the hell out of.
Great video, love the honesty. Love both guitars.
Mucho thanks to each of the representatives. They did a good job of handling what could have been a difficult situation.... This is exactly what I was hoping they would find out. Is there a difference, absolutely, is the difference in cost worth it yes, if you can afford it and if you can't afford it then you have an option. The whole reason for both of these models. One is for affordability the other is for those that can afford it. Thanks TTK.
This is a great video, unbiased approach from these guys. Absolutely amazing, we need more videos like this. Honesty is always best policy. I can only afford a harley benton and would still buy one even if I was a millionaire but, if I had the money, I wouldn't think twice about buying a prs custom shop either.
The prs just has that snap , but the HB isn’t really in the same target market. The HB is a great mod platform for someone learning. Maybe even gigable for most working musicians. At the end of the day it’s all just wood and magnets, and tone and talent really comes from the user talent and the amp. Amp is way more important than guitar in the mix in a band setting.
Great concept TK ! We need more of this kind of comparison. Thank you !
Ahhh !! this is totally briliant -- finally I am hearing continuous great points and thinking about this subject inside a video on this such a subject --- thank you --- this is right level of discussion about this topic - wonderful !! and intelligent !!
Back again, and that jam still doesn't disappoint
A really really helpful video, thank you! Liked, subscribed and commented
great advice. 'buy the thing that feels the best, that you can afford'. you can always shape the tone you want with amps, guitar modellers and processors.
You can fix fret edges at home in an hour!
Just purchhased a fred guard. A few bucks goes a long way
Thats one of the strongest arguments for cheap guitars: you don't have to be afraid to really go into it and learn all that stuff.
Just try out to do a fretjob, fine-tune a nut, change pickups, maybe even sand down the neck. It's not rocket science. Make it your own.
I bought a few $50-100 guitars to practice fret work on.... I can now sufficiently level, crown and polish frets... I gotta tell you I am blown away by how effective it is! I have a tiesco style 60’s cheap beginner guitar, and I got the action just as low as my Gibson sg standard. Main thing for playability is 100% the neck!
I have a Chinese headless I bought and to be honest it feels better than some of my custom Ibanez guitars.
Great video. Great discussion.
There are a lot of guitars out there that deserve more respect then they get.
Thanks for this video! Please do more if you can.
These guys were great - well done!👍
Great video Tone King , I would love to own a PRS but can't afford one.I bought the Harley Benton CST-24 Paradise Amber Flame instead and boy was it a great buy.
Great video, and great playing!!!
Added a new (LP type) guitar to my existing guitars last week... Searched for Dual Humbuckers for all 2022... (No hurry)... and when made final decision, based on 3x Tones... The 3rd fret was snagging finger ? No problem ! Manager / Owner of shop got the file out and fixed in seconds... Of Five guitars ????? Three acoustics/electric and two electrics... only ONE guitar I can say was without ANY blemish on day of purchase and another two had tiny blemishes in the 'paint' / 'varnish'... I still bought them !! Gotta live in the real world. Luv all my guitars. Each has a purpose. Same my three AMPs... Thanks to the "Team" for presentation... Two NICE guitars !! ... Really enjoyed... 🤠...
Benton could play like a $3000 guitar, or PRS like a $200. Sometime at the end of the day you end up learning that the tone is not in the brand of your gear, it is in the practice and in your hands, no more no less.
Tone is in the hands for sure...if you're a good player you understand that
@@guitarman6742 100%!
excellent! Can you make a Les Paul plugged in to an AC30 sound like a Strat plugged in to a solid state amp with your 'good player' hands?
Craig totally misses the point. It's not the guitar it's the player.
Great jams, great points, and excellent mediation😎
Thanks for starting us off with one of those badboy videos right away. Loved it
Great segment. I’m sold on both.✌🏻🎸🤘🏻
Such an enjoyable video this one ,great players too
Awesome interview!
I have Gibsons and Fenders but my go to is a Harley Benton! Admittedly Ive upgraded a few things but it sounds and feels nice to me and its very adaptable
Most excellant adventure TK! Very good. Double thumbs up.
P.s. I'll still take my SE used for 275.
really enjoyed this vid thanks guys
Great video and very valid points. Since I can’t afford a PRS and only play at home, I would get the Harley Benton massage the neck and frets and maybe change pickups and have a great player that’s right for me.
Another great video! Just remember; a 5 dollar sanding sponge can do wonders for those fret ends, making that a non issue.
What these guys are saying about “the feel” of the guitar “in your hands” is what counts is very real. We all would like to get the expensive guitar, but it might not be the one we enjoy playing the most.
Good vid.. Very insightful..
I bought a Harley Benton for $154, paid my Luthier $140 to make a bone nut and make the frets perfect, and then added locking tuners for $100. Now I have a killer guitar for less than $400. Couldn’t be happier!
Me too - love mine
Excellent video, congrats!
Loved the honesty of these dudes
Good honest show... love it. Well done
Really good honest review cheers guys👍
awesome. nice playing, and these guys look like brothers...from far:)
Great video, it was so great I subbed! I have to say this was one of the most honest comparison video's I've seen! The Harley Benton guy sure seemed to like that PRS lol.
What's odd to me is when people complain about Gibson being too high priced but how much is that PRS again? I own 6 Gibson Les Paul's and love every one of them. The most expensive one was brand new and cost $1500, my cheapest one cost me $400 and when the pups work I love it lol. Obviously for $400 it has problems and thats why i got it so cheap. At the same time, I have Epiphone Les Pauls and love them as well and those I bought brand new and the most expensive one was about $1,000 . There are subtle differences between the Gibson and the Epiphone that I notice, but I still love them each the same. I also have a $300 Gretsch LP style I bought used and it's great and I have a $300 Ibanez Iceman I bought brand new, it plays just as good as any other guitar I own and I love it... Price doesn't make a great guitar, it may make a "quality" guitar though! in 10 years let's see how that Harley Benton has stood up and then compare it to the PRS.
Amazing honest review video thank you
I have a few HB guitars ,after a little work setting up love them
is it me but do both guys look like a copy of each other lol
At the beginning I thought it was a mirror image video editing trick.
you are right .