I have a 90/1.25 from TTA. With these lenses you're limited to electronic shutter (I'm on a CFV II 50 back). There is no leaf shutter, if that's important to you.
Thanks so much for the great video and excellent analysis of this lens. I don’t think it’s the first third party lens for XCD. TTArtisans has an XCD version of their 90mm f/1.25 lens which was originally made for Leica M mount.
Amazing! Thanks!! Getting relaxed to shoot the videos can be a challenge, but super happy you could listen to me blab on all day, hahaha. I'm told I have a great voice for radio, face too, hahahaha
Thanks for the video I appreciate it. The X2D doesn't have focus peaking, but the X1D mark 2 does but when you said F1.4 is soft and showed us to me thats the whole point you get a heavy F1.4. It's for the F1.4. So I'd rather save and get the Hasselblad 65mm which is incredible
Thanks for checking out the video! Much appreciated. So what I mean by "focus peaking" is the ability to double tap the back of the screen and get a 100% view of the image to check focus. Looks like I am using that wrong though, thanks for pointing that out. What you what I am doing be called I wonder? And ya, the lens is not for everyone. I myself always try to save up and get the best, but for the price I think it was pretty good in the end. Thanks again!
Have the same feeling - probably getting the XCD 65 in addition to the 80/1.9 that I own already. This lens looks tempting but I am not sure how the images will turn out in the 100MP sensor… at 1.4. Especially for moving objects with a thin DoF and electronic shutter. 😅 For the price definitely something!
@@mahdimanesh4221 for moving subjects I’m sure I would get nothing in focus with this lens at 1.4. More my lack of skill than anything else. If you have the money the Hasselblad lenses are for sure the way to go but this is an interesting option for the price. Thanks for checking out the video!
@@mahdimanesh4221 the main reason to get it is to shoot at F1.4 and its soft at F1.4 its sharp at F2.8 at that point get the 65mm XCD Keeping in mind its as heavy as the XCD 80mm f1.9 not worth it
@@theresjustnotellingfpv4822 of course, but not everyone can afford the $4,485 price tag. Starting to get third party lenses for Hassepblad is great for all users.
@@jasonhalaykophotography you don’t go start shooting Hasselblad on a budget my guy. Also the best part about the system are the lenses themselves. 1/2000 leaf shutters is the reason to get into the system over the Fuji gfx.
Hi, did you use the X2Ds electronic shutter with this lens? It seems that there isn't any information about this - not on your video nor on zhong yi site. While it may be convenient that someone does a lens in the actual XCD mount I feel that it doesn't help much if they don't also build the leaf shutter inside the lens. So if it doesn't have the leaf shutter inside, you can't really shoot with it during the night time since you get awful banding with most artificial lights.
Hey, you know, I can’t remember which way I was shooting on the camera when it shot with it. Let me get in touch with my friends at Hasselblad and get back to you. I’ll ask the Zhong Yi people as well. Thanks for checking out the video!
For this lens you need to use the electronic shutter indeed. Bobby Tonelli mentions this in his review at 5:11 here ruclips.net/video/tNLmJJb1P7o/видео.html
@@Hdden-Beauty Thanks for the information!! Good to know. I'm super impressed how people like yourself are able to share info on here. Learning from everyone has been super fun!
Hasselblad have the shutter in their lenses so the camera doesn't have one that's why you can only use the electronic one as the lens doesn't have one too
@@jasonhalaykophotography Oh wow, i thought you cropped it. That instantly solved my question, Thanks! For 600$ quit a good one. Maybe i will wait for a sale or something. Wish i could affort the 80mm 1.9 *sigh* ʕ·ᴥ·ʔ
It's me or the X2D does not have the color science that the X1D series and the H series had? did they cut the color calibration to cut costs? Also, the Hasselblad lens has a shutter, and that is important if the subject moves even a little as the rolling shutter of the sensor is massive.
When they increased the resolution they lost some of the color fidelity. There are some tradeoff when you increase resolution and this is one of them. Bigger pixels have better light gathering capabilities. Which is why Im sticking with my X1D2. Also not sure if this lens has a leaf shutter, but...........
While difficult to determine from the POV you shot your video of you using the lens outside whether or not you used the integrated/reversible lens hood, I wonder if you would still have had the blue/red flare shooting backlit scenes? Were you, in fact, using the lens hood? I ask because I'm very much interested in purchasing this lens for my x1dii. Thanks. BTW, the XCD mount is selling for $599 on their website (even less than the 800 to 1000) range you mentioned was possible.
I would always use a lens hood if I have one, but I wasn’t provided with one for the testing of the lens. And ya, that would have fixed it a bit for sure. Wow, even cheaper than I thought. I hope it works out for you!
@@jasonhalaykophotography Thanks for the info. It's much less expensive than my Leica and Hasselblad gear, so I'm going to give it try. It certainly would fit in with what I like to shoot, so I'm definitely looking forward to trying it out.
@@jasonhalaykophotography That's the case on the GFX one. But they should be the same. I have modified mine to have a stiffer aperture ring also. Curiously, there are actually detents inside the aperture ring to make it clicked but ZY Optics seems to have opted out of putting in a spring and ball and made it click-less instead. 😅
@@OngWeeKiat I personally had no issues with it during our portrait session and I did do a little bit of street shooting as well and that was fine too. It's a big investment so maybe renting one for a few days and seeing if it matches your style would be a good idea. Good luck and thanks for checking out the video!!
Hey there Jason. I know you don’t work for ZY, but could I impose upon you to reach out to your contact there to respond to an email I sent to them this past Wednesday about a very serious problem I’m having with the lens they sent. I’ve attempted to reach them through the web portal but, as before, they don’t respond. In my case, they will likely have to either replace the lens or whatever they do when it’s not built correctly. The whole front lens element has become loose to the point that I can use it for fear the element will fall out of the lens! So, while I loved the first few shots I made with it, it is now a paperweight!
Ok, I’ll see what I can do. I would reach out through their Instagram account as well as the person watching that seems to be quick with replies. Good luck!
The lens has terrible flare and lens reflections. I'm guessing they don't have very good lens coatings but in situations where you weren't getting flare the image didn't look too bad. That is, it wasn't bad for a cheap lens. The problem is that if this costs $800 that isn't cheap, it's only cheap compared to Hassy lenses. Unless I missed it you didn't say if this is a leaf shutter lens but I assume not which means you are shooting with the electronic shutter only. Considering this lens is all manual, still has vignetting, and doesn't (probably) have a leaf shutter, you would be far better off getting a far cheaper high quality manual lens designed for an older medium format system (or even some 35mm lenses) you can adapt to the Hassy.
This has no leaf shutter so only shooting on the electric shutter. And ya, I don’t find the lens flair myself, and it wasn’t too hard to keep it out of the shot when I didn’t want it, but agree that there might other options out there using adaptors and things like that. Thanks for checking out the video!
DISAPPOINTED WITH ZHONG YI: My fiancee ordered the lens for me on 19 March, while the lens was still listed as in stock; she also paid the extra $30 for express shipping . She immediately received a payment received notice, and after that... crickets!! She reached out to them a few days ago through their CONTACT US page and... wait for it... crickets!! I'm sure this is a legit company, but MAN what incredibly horrible communication (as in NONE). I'm only posting this here because our efforts to contact them directly have failed miserably. I still want the lens, but maybe I should have waited until B&H had them in stock and ordered through them. Lesson learned!!
I'll share your comment with the contact I had at the company. If I hear anything I'll let you know. Always sucks when stuff like that happens. Hopefully it all works out soon!
@@jasonhalaykophotography Thanks, Jason! I’d really appreciate that! Got a trip coming up that would be perfect to put this lens through its paces, so I’m hoping it shows up before then.
Hi, we are sorry for bringing you the trouble. The shipment of 65mm f/1.4 XCD will start next week and an auto generated email with tracking will be sent once your order is shipped.
Getting all excited about sharing new info I guess. I talk quickly in real life as well just naturally. Thanks for the advice though, I’ll try and slow it down for future videos.
I have a 90/1.25 from TTA. With these lenses you're limited to electronic shutter (I'm on a CFV II 50 back). There is no leaf shutter, if that's important to you.
@@bitspacemusic thanks!! Good info for sure.
Thanks so much for the great video and excellent analysis of this lens. I don’t think it’s the first third party lens for XCD. TTArtisans has an XCD version of their 90mm f/1.25 lens which was originally made for Leica M mount.
Thanks, happy to see you like the video.
Thoughtful and informative video! Your personality is laid back, I could listen to you talk about anything really.
Amazing! Thanks!! Getting relaxed to shoot the videos can be a challenge, but super happy you could listen to me blab on all day, hahaha. I'm told I have a great voice for radio, face too, hahahaha
Thanks for the video I appreciate it. The X2D doesn't have focus peaking, but the X1D mark 2 does but when you said F1.4 is soft and showed us to me thats the whole point you get a heavy F1.4. It's for the F1.4. So I'd rather save and get the Hasselblad 65mm which is incredible
Thanks for checking out the video! Much appreciated.
So what I mean by "focus peaking" is the ability to double tap the back of the screen and get a 100% view of the image to check focus. Looks like I am using that wrong though, thanks for pointing that out. What you what I am doing be called I wonder?
And ya, the lens is not for everyone. I myself always try to save up and get the best, but for the price I think it was pretty good in the end.
Thanks again!
Have the same feeling - probably getting the XCD 65 in addition to the 80/1.9 that I own already. This lens looks tempting but I am not sure how the images will turn out in the 100MP sensor… at 1.4. Especially for moving objects with a thin DoF and electronic shutter. 😅 For the price definitely something!
@@mahdimanesh4221 for moving subjects I’m sure I would get nothing in focus with this lens at 1.4. More my lack of skill than anything else.
If you have the money the Hasselblad lenses are for sure the way to go but this is an interesting option for the price.
Thanks for checking out the video!
@@mahdimanesh4221 the main reason to get it is to shoot at F1.4 and its soft at F1.4 its sharp at F2.8 at that point get the 65mm XCD Keeping in mind its as heavy as the XCD 80mm f1.9 not worth it
@@jasonhalaykophotography focus point magnification. This lens is better on GFX because of better focus peaking and the mechanical shutter. Just my 2ç
Try HCD100f2.2 with XH 0.8 converter and it will give you 80f1.8 equivalent on X2D 😉
Cool. Probably lots of ways to Frankenstein something together out there. Thanks for checking out the video!
It would be better just to shoot the 80 1.9 xcd
@@theresjustnotellingfpv4822 of course, but not everyone can afford the $4,485 price tag. Starting to get third party lenses for Hassepblad is great for all users.
@@jasonhalaykophotography you don’t go start shooting Hasselblad on a budget my guy. Also the best part about the system are the lenses themselves. 1/2000 leaf shutters is the reason to get into the system over the Fuji gfx.
@@theresjustnotellingfpv4822 not disagreeing with you at all. Just saying it's nice to have more options for different people.
For over a year I own a TT-Artisan 90mm 1:1.25 with native XCD mount
Hi, did you use the X2Ds electronic shutter with this lens? It seems that there isn't any information about this - not on your video nor on zhong yi site. While it may be convenient that someone does a lens in the actual XCD mount I feel that it doesn't help much if they don't also build the leaf shutter inside the lens. So if it doesn't have the leaf shutter inside, you can't really shoot with it during the night time since you get awful banding with most artificial lights.
Hey, you know, I can’t remember which way I was shooting on the camera when it shot with it. Let me get in touch with my friends at Hasselblad and get back to you.
I’ll ask the Zhong Yi people as well.
Thanks for checking out the video!
For this lens you need to use the electronic shutter indeed. Bobby Tonelli mentions this in his review at 5:11 here ruclips.net/video/tNLmJJb1P7o/видео.html
@@Hdden-Beauty Thanks for the information!! Good to know. I'm super impressed how people like yourself are able to share info on here. Learning from everyone has been super fun!
Hasselblad have the shutter in their lenses so the camera doesn't have one that's why you can only use the electronic one as the lens doesn't have one too
@@gusatvoschiavon good info, thanks!!
But is it for the full range of the sensor or will you have dark corners?
It looked good to me, no dark corners at all in the images. Look close on the images I used in the video. I didn’t crop so it should be easy to tell.
@@jasonhalaykophotography
Oh wow, i thought you cropped it. That instantly solved my question, Thanks! For 600$ quit a good one. Maybe i will wait for a sale or something. Wish i could affort the 80mm 1.9 *sigh* ʕ·ᴥ·ʔ
@@theotries ya, the 80mm 1.9 must be AMAZING! Happy I could help.
Vignetting gets worse when you focus distantly. Your sample photos are all focused up close.
@@mackrun8248 great info, thanks!
Hi Jason, is the lense really for Medium format coverage ?
It’s made specifically for the Hasselblad system and seems to cover the entire sensor of that is what you are asking.
I love the lens flares! If you don't, there's a hidden lens hood which you can screw out from the front of your lens. It helps! (;
I actually really enjoyed playing with them and how them came out. Perfection in imperfection!
It's me or the X2D does not have the color science that the X1D series and the H series had? did they cut the color calibration to cut costs? Also, the Hasselblad lens has a shutter, and that is important if the subject moves even a little as the rolling shutter of the sensor is massive.
When they increased the resolution they lost some of the color fidelity. There are some tradeoff when you increase resolution and this is one of them. Bigger pixels have better light gathering capabilities. Which is why Im sticking with my X1D2. Also not sure if this lens has a leaf shutter, but...........
Thank you very much for posting nice video. Did you take these pictures without tripod?
Thanks a ton for checking it out!! These were all taken without a tripod.
While difficult to determine from the POV you shot your video of you using the lens outside whether or not you used the integrated/reversible lens hood, I wonder if you would still have had the blue/red flare shooting backlit scenes? Were you, in fact, using the lens hood? I ask because I'm very much interested in purchasing this lens for my x1dii. Thanks. BTW, the XCD mount is selling for $599 on their website (even less than the 800 to 1000) range you mentioned was possible.
I would always use a lens hood if I have one, but I wasn’t provided with one for the testing of the lens. And ya, that would have fixed it a bit for sure.
Wow, even cheaper than I thought. I hope it works out for you!
@@jasonhalaykophotography Thanks for the info. It's much less expensive than my Leica and Hasselblad gear, so I'm going to give it try. It certainly would fit in with what I like to shoot, so I'm definitely looking forward to trying it out.
@@jasonhalaykophotography The ring in front of the aperture ring is the hood. You can actually unscrew it and then screw it back in flipped backwards.
@@enshongmiranda hahaha, I did not know that! Thanks for the info!!
@@jasonhalaykophotography That's the case on the GFX one. But they should be the same. I have modified mine to have a stiffer aperture ring also. Curiously, there are actually detents inside the aperture ring to make it clicked but ZY Optics seems to have opted out of putting in a spring and ball and made it click-less instead. 😅
Any challeneges with hasselblad's electronic shutter? Think it would work for street?
@@OngWeeKiat I personally had no issues with it during our portrait session and I did do a little bit of street shooting as well and that was fine too. It's a big investment so maybe renting one for a few days and seeing if it matches your style would be a good idea. Good luck and thanks for checking out the video!!
Very nice. 😮
Thank you very much!
Hey there Jason. I know you don’t work for ZY, but could I impose upon you to reach out to your contact there to respond to an email I sent to them this past Wednesday about a very serious problem I’m having with the lens they sent. I’ve attempted to reach them through the web portal but, as before, they don’t respond. In my case, they will likely have to either replace the lens or whatever they do when it’s not built correctly. The whole front lens element has become loose to the point that I can use it for fear the element will fall out of the lens! So, while I loved the first few shots I made with it, it is now a paperweight!
Ok, I’ll see what I can do. I would reach out through their Instagram account as well as the person watching that seems to be quick with replies. Good luck!
@@jasonhalaykophotography Thanks Jason! I’ll give their instagram feed as well then; hadn’t considered that.
The lens has terrible flare and lens reflections. I'm guessing they don't have very good lens coatings but in situations where you weren't getting flare the image didn't look too bad. That is, it wasn't bad for a cheap lens. The problem is that if this costs $800 that isn't cheap, it's only cheap compared to Hassy lenses. Unless I missed it you didn't say if this is a leaf shutter lens but I assume not which means you are shooting with the electronic shutter only. Considering this lens is all manual, still has vignetting, and doesn't (probably) have a leaf shutter, you would be far better off getting a far cheaper high quality manual lens designed for an older medium format system (or even some 35mm lenses) you can adapt to the Hassy.
This has no leaf shutter so only shooting on the electric shutter. And ya, I don’t find the lens flair myself, and it wasn’t too hard to keep it out of the shot when I didn’t want it, but agree that there might other options out there using adaptors and things like that.
Thanks for checking out the video!
No communication, for sure also no central shutter, no thanks.
DISAPPOINTED WITH ZHONG YI: My fiancee ordered the lens for me on 19 March, while the lens was still listed as in stock; she also paid the extra $30 for express shipping . She immediately received a payment received notice, and after that... crickets!! She reached out to them a few days ago through their CONTACT US page and... wait for it... crickets!! I'm sure this is a legit company, but MAN what incredibly horrible communication (as in NONE). I'm only posting this here because our efforts to contact them directly have failed miserably. I still want the lens, but maybe I should have waited until B&H had them in stock and ordered through them. Lesson learned!!
I'll share your comment with the contact I had at the company. If I hear anything I'll let you know. Always sucks when stuff like that happens. Hopefully it all works out soon!
@@jasonhalaykophotography Thanks, Jason! I’d really appreciate that! Got a trip coming up that would be perfect to put this lens through its paces, so I’m hoping it shows up before then.
Hi, we are sorry for bringing you the trouble. The shipment of 65mm f/1.4 XCD will start next week and an auto generated email with tracking will be sent once your order is shipped.
@@zyoptics9946 Thanks for reaching out to them! Much appreciated.
@@zyoptics9946 Thank you very much for your reply. I look forward to receiving the lens.
Electric shutter….. with this lens is a nightmare for indoor and low light
Why RUclipsrs all speak so fast. This is not professional.
Getting all excited about sharing new info I guess. I talk quickly in real life as well just naturally. Thanks for the advice though, I’ll try and slow it down for future videos.
@@jasonhalaykophotography Great. You will benefit of this for sure. You have talent.
@@GillesQuennevilleGQ thank you very much!
And more about sound, i hear more room than voice, wrong mic placement.
@@serg2nd super agree with this. Going to have to do some experiments before the next vid. Cheers!!