I'm floored that Reggie was able to avoid spoilers on this. It's all the more tragic that on top of Kojima, Del Toro, and Reedus, Junji f-ing Ito was going to do the creature designs.
@hahadudeepicxd351 He's been friends with Kojima for over 20 years, Kojima and Del Toro said it was fine that he didnt know anything about games, and all 3 of them went to karaoke after a meeting at Komani about Silent Hills. Next thing he heard was that it had been canceled. And since everything I've heard about how far into development of Silent Hills got, was super super early development, basically "We got some ideas", while not officially involved, there's no reason to think he wouldn't have if it hadn't been canceled.
@@SinHurr Junji Ito is great, but people like Masaaki Nakayama are on his level as well. I highly recommend to read "PTSD Radio" by Nakayama. It's great horror manga. Where to read? MangaLife. Or if you're cool enough, support the official release. The omnibus volumes are beautiful.
Man, I still remember the day I watched day one footage of it and thought "that's photorealism right there, holy lord." I was actually confused for some seconds. Watching pt now and boy, despite it looking good, one sees it kinda gets older even tho I thought this mentality only happens in a childs brain (cause we believed PS1 and such looked hyperrealistc and such)
That fucking dog edit scared the shit out of me!!! 🤣 Edit: even the buffering edit got me to check the wifi settings on my phone.... i feel like a fool, great editing tho!
Finding out, months later, that Junji Ito was also involved in this was like finding out that your dog who got hit by a car was also pregnant. Disappointment on a level you weren't even imagining.
@@johnrivers3813 I know, I know... I've never even *played* silent hill or actually watched a letsplay because I just always found survival-horror boring as a genre, and even *I* felt pain from that loss.
“Be courteous. Consider other people.” (Lunch bag full of dubious flesh rustles its jimmies at you) Clue finding music over tense horror footage is a mood
Man if only, but knowing Konami I'm sure there's a contract out there that says if Kojima creates any project that's similar to their own IP or was originally developed in their office that they would get the shit sued out of them. It's the only reason why Kojima didn't move forward with a different rebranding for silent hill. I think it's called a non compete clause or something.
Hideo Kojima, Junji Ito, and Guillermo Del Toro all working together to make a Horror game. Every couple of months I remember what was taken from us and wince for a second.
It's almost been a decade, and the salt over Silent Hills is still strong. As awesome as it is that Kojima can make whatever weird-ass games he wants without being under the thumb of Konami, we'll still always burn with wonder over what could've been.
Lol I appreciate the edited shenanigans in this video, I had internet connection issues prior and my vulnerable, cross-faded ass was entirely convinced for a moment
Kojima and Del Toro did use a lot of the assets from Silent Hills to make Death Stranding though. Its not technically a horror, but it has a lot of horror elements to it.
This was such a great stream and I loved Reggie's immediate WE GOT ROBBED energy. I loved Death Stranding and all but i do really wish we lived in the PT Silent Hill timeline instead.
Ok, but that bit at 4:20 shows you how amazing Kojimas Silent Hills would of been, cuz even the pause menus could be fucked with and manipulated for some good scares, kinda like a modern take on Eternal Darkness 😮
The scariest thing to me is that it's been almost ten years and I can't hardly remember a single day since then. It feels like something is eating my memories and it scares the hell out of me.
Perfect timing on playing this this year. The new silent hill project is such a blatent cash grab, I'm sad we never got silent hills, but also glad that it didn't have a chance to disappoint us. Konami would have found a way to fumble it.
the state of silent hill is so dire that if the one being written by ryukishi07 flops i'm just gonna give up and start crying myself to sleep cradling my copy of sh2
Man. I'm still sad that Silent Hills didn't happen. Konami would've probably screwed with it in some way, but I really wanted it. Also it astonishes me that I had PT right before they delisted it, installed on my PS4, had to send it in to get repaired and the techs at Sony uninstalled PT and I can't get it anymore.
We can only hope that someday Konami will be run by a dude who REALLY loves Silent Hill and is willing to Kojima the rights to Metal Gear in exchange for making Silent Hills. Unlikely, but on a long enough timeline, anything can happen.
Considering SH: A is a trash fire and Konami gave Bloober Team the go ahead for the SH2 re-make, I doubt this is happening… I personally want really talented people to make a new IP that scares our pants off. Maybe Kohima will make a new IP one day!
@@darianm9741 I think it started with the traumacore community (if you can call it that) using liminal space to refer to like pictures of places that vaguely reminded them of their childhood trauma and loss of innocence in some vauge way. Often with like a memmory-loss component (place reminds them of something they can't quite remember, like they have been there but forgot/repressed it.) Then it got picked up from there by like internet creepypasta-y horror and "aestetics" communites to just refer to images that was like "vaugly reminds them of their childhood, but in a creepy way" like pictures of a slightly off mods of the Super Mario 64 castle with a CRT filter or something. Or like a place that they feel like they have been to but haven't. Then someone applied that use of the term to the Backrooms, and now people just use it to mean "like the Backrooms". Also at some point liminal in the sense of being "between reality and unreality" got mixed in there as well. After after that it got post-poc justified with like "sometimes the places called 'liminal spaces' are hallways and such, so those are liminal" despite that a lot (and probably originally most) of the images called "liminal spaces" were not of hallways and such. TL;DR: Online internet horror community is obessed with finding new terms to both overuse and cliché-ify for the new creepy trend and co-opted a term from people trying to use visual art to deal with their childhood trauma.
While it is pretty depressing to focus on what could have been I think it is better to focus on what we have. What we have is the recently released Silent Hill Ascension a choose your own adventure TV show that features a battle pass and the ability to affect the story of some characters no one cares about by paying real money to buy more votes. That’s right it is a pay to win TV show. Truly an innovative experience that we might not have if Konami had not decided to kick out Hideo Kojima for trying to make Silent Hill one of the best games/brands around.
I think this Silent hill never existed, Kojima already knew he was gonna get fired as soon as he finished MGS V, so i think he created PT as a "fuck you" to Konami, full of double meaning messages. Dad (Konami) was such a drag. Every day he'd eat the same kind of food, dress the same, sit in front of the same kind of games (not that cryptic about it all being about unoriginal games). Yeah, he was just that kind of guy. But then one day, he goes and kills us all! (ruining the company and firing people). He couldn't even be original about the way he did it. I'm not complaining... I was dying of boredom anyway, But guess what? I will be coming back, and I'm bringing my new toys with me (Kojima was glad to leave so he could avoid the shipwreck and start his own studio, and he brought the engine and developers with him, to play with new ideas)
@@Vulgarth1 Thanks, i just find it interesting. Also, the fetus could simbolize how the project was doomed, and i think there's no reason for a peephole in the bathroom of your own house, so i think that symbolizes Konami watching them all of the time. But well, just my theories
my hatred for Konami after this refresher is sky high but not as high as the hatred for myself knowing if they release a MGS3 HD I'll be slapping my money down 1st day or earlier.
I'm floored that Reggie was able to avoid spoilers on this.
It's all the more tragic that on top of Kojima, Del Toro, and Reedus, Junji f-ing Ito was going to do the creature designs.
I don’t Junji Ito was actually going to be apart of it, nothing actually suggested it
@hahadudeepicxd351 He's been friends with Kojima for over 20 years, Kojima and Del Toro said it was fine that he didnt know anything about games, and all 3 of them went to karaoke after a meeting at Komani about Silent Hills. Next thing he heard was that it had been canceled.
And since everything I've heard about how far into development of Silent Hills got, was super super early development, basically "We got some ideas", while not officially involved, there's no reason to think he wouldn't have if it hadn't been canceled.
Its very cathartic to hear Reggie yell out we got robbed. We've been feeling that for years.
Never forget we were also going to get creatures designed by Junji Ito
Junji "God-King of Body and Existential Horror" Ito.
Losing this game really did thrust us into the worst timeline.
Abso-fucking-lutely ROBBED
Was gonna mention that. People seem to leave Ito out.
His creative (drawings and story) would have been so interesting in a Silent Hill game.
@@SinHurr Junji Ito is great, but people like Masaaki Nakayama are on his level as well. I highly recommend to read "PTSD Radio" by Nakayama. It's great horror manga. Where to read? MangaLife. Or if you're cool enough, support the official release. The omnibus volumes are beautiful.
Don't forget that Juni Ito also designed a baloon man propelled by farting.
You guys some asses for that early scare. Almost dropped my phone.
lol
Arf!
Skill issue. Always be ready for window dog
Yeah that got me too. Damn it, Crabtree!
@@SivTheScribe❤
Woolie: A couple years and still looks good
Me: Haha yeah can't believe it was 3 years ago that...
Editor: Its been 9 years!
That edit hurt me.
In my mind everything from 2013 to just before the pandemic is the same year. The entire ps4 era just occupies a single memory card slot.
Man, I still remember the day I watched day one footage of it and thought "that's photorealism right there, holy lord." I was actually confused for some seconds.
Watching pt now and boy, despite it looking good, one sees it kinda gets older even tho I thought this mentality only happens in a childs brain (cause we believed PS1 and such looked hyperrealistc and such)
TEN WHOLE YEARS?!?!?!
when the microphone came out, woolie exercised amazing restraint by not making Reggie say Life Line
Rife rine.
To this day I consider the cancelation of Silent Hills to be when we diverged into the bad timeline.
Most people, myself included, place the start of the bad timeline at when that gorilla got shot but you might be on to something here.
That fucking dog edit scared the shit out of me!!! 🤣
Edit: even the buffering edit got me to check the wifi settings on my phone.... i feel like a fool, great editing tho!
The editing one got me, too. My wifi has been bad all day so I was ready to reset the vid lol
The wifi in my room is super bad, but also I got an ad right in the middle of it!
The real horror was the potentially amazing game we lost along the way
it couldve been awful, we'll never know and honestly id rather silent hill stay dead
honestly i think i just believe the conspiracy theory that the game never truly existed and was just a stunt to get himself fired
More of a tragedy than a horror, really.
Finding out, months later, that Junji Ito was also involved in this was like finding out that your dog who got hit by a car was also pregnant.
Disappointment on a level you weren't even imagining.
I can't..... I just....
@@johnrivers3813 I know, I know... I've never even *played* silent hill or actually watched a letsplay because I just always found survival-horror boring as a genre, and even *I* felt pain from that loss.
WE GOT FUCKING SCAMMED!
I'm still very impressed with how quickly Reggie found those picture pieces, his exploration skills are pretty strong
bro these edits are FIRE, what the hell, extra content _after_ watching the actual video for it? this is what I call _quality._
“Be courteous. Consider other people.”
(Lunch bag full of dubious flesh rustles its jimmies at you)
Clue finding music over tense horror footage is a mood
Gotta say I liked the talking fetus more when it wasn’t trying to be an edgelord
F in the chat for all those saps that deleted this from their PS4s.
I was one of those saps... 😢
@@VentusFury What game were you trying to clear up space for when you deleted PT?
@@habadasheryjones pretty sure it was Yakuza 0 or kiwami
@@VentusFury Damn, it was definitely a goof deleting PT at all, but at least it was for something decent. I dig the absurdity of those Yakuza games.
Rip to my brother's PlayStation that has it
1:47 Woolie knew and still jumped like his life was about to be extinguished
JESUS THAT FIRST SCARE WHY LMAO
Adding the "treat yourself Now" meme to the meat sack's dialogue got me stuck for a while on that part, I'm laughing so hard
The editor killed it with this one, all the more impressive because this stream wasn't that long ago
Wow this editing is phenomenal. Window dog, the emotionally supportive suspicious bag, and the buffering jump scare are top tier.
This is your regular reminder to thank Konami for their IP management decisions. They are the decisions of all time
That dog got me good
Bro that video unavailable edit got me good lmao
I'm still hopeful for a collab between Kojima, del Toro, Reedus, and Ito to make a really solid horror game called Hilent Sills.
Quiet mountain
Shushburg Traumatown
Man if only, but knowing Konami I'm sure there's a contract out there that says if Kojima creates any project that's similar to their own IP or was originally developed in their office that they would get the shit sued out of them. It's the only reason why Kojima didn't move forward with a different rebranding for silent hill.
I think it's called a non compete clause or something.
@@johnrivers3813 Fair but it doesn't have to be too much like Silent Hill. I'd be down for anything horror related from them.
Loud Canyon
Never forgetti, Junji Ito was also involved so even bigger of a robbery.
I came for Reggie but stayed for the editing.
Editor should get a raise for this one.
Not me checking my internet when the video started buffering 😅
Hideo Kojima, Junji Ito, and Guillermo Del Toro all working together to make a Horror game.
Every couple of months I remember what was taken from us and wince for a second.
It's almost been a decade, and the salt over Silent Hills is still strong. As awesome as it is that Kojima can make whatever weird-ass games he wants without being under the thumb of Konami, we'll still always burn with wonder over what could've been.
You guys are pulling some Eternal darkness scares here with me
Lol I appreciate the edited shenanigans in this video, I had internet connection issues prior and my vulnerable, cross-faded ass was entirely convinced for a moment
2:10 that LTG reverse copypasta had me laughing so much I took many pieces of oxygen from the ozone layer.
"Welcome to the real man's world."
_Guts Theme_
Yo what the fuck. I literally just got home from Therapy and that emotional support bag was way too fucking real lmao
Someone has to convince Kojima, Del Toro, and Junji Ito to attempt another horror game 😫
Kojima and Del Toro did use a lot of the assets from Silent Hills to make Death Stranding though. Its not technically a horror, but it has a lot of horror elements to it.
1:32 legit got me. Well played, goddammit, lol.
This was such a great stream and I loved Reggie's immediate WE GOT ROBBED energy. I loved Death Stranding and all but i do really wish we lived in the PT Silent Hill timeline instead.
Love the editing
Ok, but that bit at 4:20 shows you how amazing Kojimas Silent Hills would of been, cuz even the pause menus could be fucked with and manipulated for some good scares, kinda like a modern take on Eternal Darkness 😮
The scariest thing to me is that it's been almost ten years and I can't hardly remember a single day since then. It feels like something is eating my memories and it scares the hell out of me.
Damn, I actually thought my internet actually went out because of my ISP’s late night maintenance. That edit got me real good
Perfect timing on playing this this year. The new silent hill project is such a blatent cash grab, I'm sad we never got silent hills, but also glad that it didn't have a chance to disappoint us. Konami would have found a way to fumble it.
At this point haven't there been more fumbles than touchdowns?
It still hurts like it was yesterday, even more so with the current latest "entry" in the Silent Hill franchise
a couple of years
the state of silent hill is so dire that if the one being written by ryukishi07 flops i'm just gonna give up and start crying myself to sleep cradling my copy of sh2
I'm not the biggest silent hill fan, but hopefully, Silent Hill F is good. You guys deserve some love
At least some good horror games are still being made. Definitely check out Signalis if you haven't already
One thought: in the 'Silent Hills is released' timeline, does Kojima still get to hang out with Mads Mikkelsen?
I LOVE the change in the error message. Brilliant QA powers.
Man. I'm still sad that Silent Hills didn't happen. Konami would've probably screwed with it in some way, but I really wanted it. Also it astonishes me that I had PT right before they delisted it, installed on my PS4, had to send it in to get repaired and the techs at Sony uninstalled PT and I can't get it anymore.
Still think the fact that every silent hill game has progressively made less and less money to the point that this game made 0 dollars 😂
1:27
God like, absolutely biblical. Never do it again how dare you.
We can only hope that someday Konami will be run by a dude who REALLY loves Silent Hill and is willing to Kojima the rights to Metal Gear in exchange for making Silent Hills. Unlikely, but on a long enough timeline, anything can happen.
I don't even think Kojima would want metal gear as much as he would just want to stop konami from making any more metal gear.
Considering SH: A is a trash fire and Konami gave Bloober Team the go ahead for the SH2 re-make, I doubt this is happening… I personally want really talented people to make a new IP that scares our pants off. Maybe Kohima will make a new IP one day!
The years have passed, the wounds have healed, but the scars still remain of what could have been.
Reggie shook. Don’t worry, we all still are.
We got robbed + Silent Hill Ascension being absolute BS is the true Halloween terror…
poor reggie finding out about this
1:28 EDITOR COUNT YOUR DAYS
alright, you got me REAL good with the "video unavailable" bit. it doenst help i tend to have buffering issues once a week.🤣
You got me, editor. Multiple times.
That first scare caught me off guard so bad.
Editor needs a raise
lets not forget Junji Ito was involved as well, we were robbed
My ps4 crashed and had to be reformatted. Rip
I restarted my router because of you.
Edits in this vid are on point
Bro got me twice lmao
PT became its own creepy pasta
WE DID GET ROBBED, REGGIE! WE GOT SO ROBBED
OH WE LOOPIN
This editing is beyond cursed!
Haven't rewatched the ending reveal in a decade or so.....mmmmm doesn't feel good lol
God damnit.... ya got me with that buffering bs lol
God tier editing the buffering got me
Ok, ya got me, jeez that dog at the beginning 😂
Okay, I see how it is. The tags say it's PT but actually it's Eternal Darkness TWIST
Woolie - "Its like it's both of ours, we'll keep it at my house"
PunchMom - "THATS MY MIC PUNK"
This little demo put the idea of liminal spaces in our minds. It influences horror media to this day.
Liminal spaces was already a thing
Anyone know how 'liminal' came to refer to creepy, abandoned, repeating spaces? That's not what liminal means.
@@darianm9741 I think it started with the traumacore community (if you can call it that) using liminal space to refer to like pictures of places that vaguely reminded them of their childhood trauma and loss of innocence in some vauge way. Often with like a memmory-loss component (place reminds them of something they can't quite remember, like they have been there but forgot/repressed it.) Then it got picked up from there by like internet creepypasta-y horror and "aestetics" communites to just refer to images that was like "vaugly reminds them of their childhood, but in a creepy way" like pictures of a slightly off mods of the Super Mario 64 castle with a CRT filter or something. Or like a place that they feel like they have been to but haven't. Then someone applied that use of the term to the Backrooms, and now people just use it to mean "like the Backrooms". Also at some point liminal in the sense of being "between reality and unreality" got mixed in there as well. After after that it got post-poc justified with like "sometimes the places called 'liminal spaces' are hallways and such, so those are liminal" despite that a lot (and probably originally most) of the images called "liminal spaces" were not of hallways and such.
TL;DR: Online internet horror community is obessed with finding new terms to both overuse and cliché-ify for the new creepy trend and co-opted a term from people trying to use visual art to deal with their childhood trauma.
@@darianm9741 repeating spaces can be considered liminal, as it is perpetually transitioning into itself.
@@theotherjared9824 fair, that part does work actually
While it is pretty depressing to focus on what could have been I think it is better to focus on what we have. What we have is the recently released Silent Hill Ascension a choose your own adventure TV show that features a battle pass and the ability to affect the story of some characters no one cares about by paying real money to buy more votes. That’s right it is a pay to win TV show. Truly an innovative experience that we might not have if Konami had not decided to kick out Hideo Kojima for trying to make Silent Hill one of the best games/brands around.
Don't forget The Room levels of consistent emotions and expression with none of the bizarre cult classic charm!
.......... I don't know who you are but get out. Get out
AAAAAHHH! you got me! you made me look at the time stamp to make sure it was still rolling
S+ editing on this one.
2:09 Thats the funniest thing Ive seen all week LMAO
We entered the worst timeline when this was cancelled
Yeah everyone points to the gorilla but this was the true portent of doom
i like looping these pt vids
I think this Silent hill never existed, Kojima already knew he was gonna get fired as soon as he finished MGS V, so i think he created PT as a "fuck you" to Konami, full of double meaning messages.
Dad (Konami) was such a drag. Every day he'd eat the same kind of food, dress the same, sit in front of the same kind of games (not that cryptic about it all being about unoriginal games). Yeah, he was just that kind of guy. But then one day, he goes and kills us all! (ruining the company and firing people). He couldn't even be original about the way he did it. I'm not complaining... I was dying of boredom anyway, But guess what? I will be coming back, and I'm bringing my new toys with me (Kojima was glad to leave so he could avoid the shipwreck and start his own studio, and he brought the engine and developers with him, to play with new ideas)
That's a fairly compelling interpretation, even though it's probably not true.
I heard that theory from TheGrateDebate a few years ago.
@@endlesstrash4718 I'll check it out. But to me the message was a bit too obvious, or maybe i'm just used to watching artsy stuff with double meaning
@@Vulgarth1 Thanks, i just find it interesting. Also, the fetus could simbolize how the project was doomed, and i think there's no reason for a peephole in the bathroom of your own house, so i think that symbolizes Konami watching them all of the time. But well, just my theories
As a fellow Silent Hill fan, I can't believe you would do this to Reggie lol.
We got super robbed
REGGIE S FAACE OF GLEE AND APPRETIATION FILLS ME WIT GLEE AND SORROW THAT SILENT HILLS ISNT A THING
@0:12 Now I kinda want the duo to play RE1 remake
im here to feed the algorithm and my soul Reggie's fear
Welcome to this timeline Reggie. Sorry, there is no exit. Ignorance was bliss.
Everything about PT is the most Konami Konami has ever Konami'd.
All these years later, it still hurts
High tier human motivational speech
Oh hell yeah I always love the Annihilation track
Great editing 😂
whoever edited this is godlike i laughed
my hatred for Konami after this refresher is sky high but not as high as the hatred for myself knowing if they release a MGS3 HD I'll be slapping my money down 1st day or earlier.
Oh yes. We did get robbed. We definitely did get robbed. Still bitter over it even now.
10:05 wow, i feel like I'm on amc's ride with norman reedus
It's been 9 years
10/10 Pfp matches the feeling
guys guys, but pachinko though pachinko