The Evolution of John & Jamie | Yellowstone | Paramount Network
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- A look at the complicated relationship between John and Jamie Dutton on Yellowstone.
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3:57 when Rip nonchalantly walks in between the fight as if to remind them they’re family. Love the writing
One of the few really dramatic scene I really liked Rip otherwise I consider him as bastard character writers simultaneously try cheat in as badass with hearth of gold.
John hates Jamie in my opinion he almost always has. Not one scene of love or compassion.
I don't know, I have to heavily disagree. I think John loves all his children but his way of showing love in the beginning of the show left a lot to be desired. It also didn't help that Jaime tried to approve the selling of the land to build an airport, conspired against him to a reporter, etc. I'm glad it got better down the line
@@demonictelevision9427 Jamie approved the selling of the land because it would have made the ranch more money than the ranch has made from the beginning in a single day. With half a billion dollars you dont lose the ranch, you keep going somewhere else. When he conspired against him with the reporter it was right after john just beat the crap out of him for campaigning with johns approval. That also happened when john threatened to put Jamie's head through a wall for hitting his sister who lets not forget was beating the crap out of him until he defended himself. I know you may say Jamie deserved it, I dont think he did. Beth made choices and unfortunately her hysterectomy was the result. Lets not forget she was evil long before that happened. If Jamie is the villain for season 5 part 2, if it ever happens even though I paid for it 2 years ago, John and Beth made him that way.
19:20 were you sleeping during thus scene.
Jamie would actually be a good governor doing what’s best for Montana John just didn’t want him because he thought the ranch would go away when at the time there wasn’t a way to save it
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Sometimes it does not matter who throws the first punch or the last punch. John only knew how to break horses and heard cattle. That mentality was applied to how he interacted with people as well. See a wolf, kill the wolf to protect the flock. A horse bucks, you break it. I do not know how he acted when his wife was in the picture, but it was clear that afterwords, he saw everyone around him as either asset or enemy. He did not allow Jamie to grow into his own man, he tried to break him to his will. Jamie could not defend himself from Beth without John and Rip bringing him to the train station, they always forgave her everything. For Jamie, the smart choice would have been to walk away like his brother. Unfortunately, he was never given the chance.
I hate how John and Beth treat Jamie like crap. Jamie is an adult and is free to run for office or do whatever he wants without his dad's permission.
Jamie Took Beth To Some Mexican Who Removed Her Uterus With A Knife
True, but, he's free to do that WITHOUT his dad's backing or name. That's what you miss there.
The only reason he had a chance was the support, the money, the fear that came with the Dutton name.
When I suffered through 2.5 seasons of this show I desperately wanted Beth to die in every episode.
@@mactire6045 Still hoping she dies but I think we all know it will be Jamie who bites it.
I love how this show portrays Jamie to be the bad guy. Yes he’s done some bad things but who hasn’t in this show, he most definitely should have told her about the operation cost beforehand but he was a scared kid who SHE came to. She has 0 accountability in that whole situation. Jamie was happy trying to become a cowboy and JOHN created him as the lawyer, John created this Jamie and now everyone’s acting all surprised when Jamie does the things their father made him to be. Again Jamie has done bad things but I truly hate how they twist this narrative protecting their sweet Beth 😂..
Jamie has done bad things but they can all be traced back to John or Beth. He’s the most deserving of a happy ending.
I don’t know about you guys, but Jamie is my favorite character
It’s an issue with the writing for sure. Love the show but this has always been a weird part of it. We are supposed to see Jamie as this evil corporate asshole but 90% of the characters are fucking murders and blackmailers. Then we find out that the only reason Jamie adopted this lifestyle that John hated is because John made him do it. The only truly bad thing you have him on is the Beth stuff but even then you could argue he was young and scared and thought he was doing the right thing.
Jamie was willing to fork over the land to paradise valley and market equities in a heartbeat, knowing full well that if you give land developers an inch, they’ll take every acre they want, fucking over everyone.
More like a devolution. By season 5, the two of them had no relationship
I don’t think these two characters have had a meaningful conversation since Jamie confronted John about the adoption. That was season 3. Everything since then has been too brief or in front of other characters
John is the real antagonist of this series. Everyone says it’s Beth but really she’s just a pawn for John. Jamie didn’t deserve any of the treatment he received from the Duttons. He did everything for them just for them to hate him.
I feel like jamie didn't deserve all that he did fight for the ranch but no one thought so
14:48 im surprised John didn't throw any punches. He held that back like a champ
I love Jamie. He’s definitely the scapegoat. They are so cruel to him. But, it’s all part of the story.
Love the character of Jamie, he’s my favourite
Definitely a tortured soul
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@@Caffeine-Queen me too.
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I cannot get enough of this show, this work of art. I understand how some will find that statement offensive, perhaps as offensive as much of the storyline and violence portrayed. My reality remains... Yellowstone, the trilogy, is the closest thing to depicting the realities of my childhood. Yes, the amount of violence is unsettling; however, for those raised under similar conditions in parts of the World such as Montana, Wyoming, North Dakota, and others, it's relatable. "Like or accept" it or not, much of the Pioneer Family Histories are much more similar to the Duttons' than today's "Soy-Boys" and the liberal beta males sculpted by a Nation that turned "Masculinity" into a slur, and replacing it with the label of "Toxic Masculinity."
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@@KonaMan62 the Dutton Crime Family is due a visit from the FBI.
Jamie is the only one with any integrity left.
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@@Ca-SandraMorris-That's difficult to answer. However, most days, I'd like to embody the qualities and demeanor of John Dutton. On others, I'd enjoy tapping into my "Inner Beth Dutton" and all of her "Specia Qualities."
The real villain is John, not only did he isolate his adopted son from him but also severed any chance of him growing to love his adopted dad, and i know why, he resents jamie for his dad that killed his wife. so the issue is that john created the monster because he is stubborn and could not let go of the murder of his wife. based on jamies phycological behavior he is being pushed into a direction of hared because ive not seen any time his dad show love or effection of a hug or i love you son, they blame him almost always. he was 17 with the situation with his sister do any 17 year old's know about that stuff? no they probably dont. however upon watching this series, john is the culprit for jamies betrayal because jamie seeks his love even with the abuse or his approval. this ladies and gentleman is what happens when you treat your children this way. i honestly hope jamie wins because in the end one mans pride is a whole family's end. pisses me off!
However on other note when his biological dad showed him that love that john couldnt thats what won jamie over. in the end based on the story all jamie wants is to be loved and appreciated and acknowledged.
I don't think it's that clear but it's not really our fault for not knowing, because the series doesn't show his childhood....
i actually assumed they were a very happy family, growing up(from glimpses of stuff like family fishing or camping trips and their reminiscing)...
i also assumed that BEFORE THE WIFE DIED (this is the crucial thing, that started the problems for John Dutton), Jaime got all the love he needed (from John too)!....
@OldManPaxusYT a good assumption but we see that john is very stern and almost cold for example when Rip killed that man when he was younger and the way john handles that situation can show a very big shift in his value, not only that but sending jamie to the train station there's alot we don't really know but I can see johns not been the best father we can all agree.
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I was team Jamie since beginning. Beth sucks.
My favourite characters at first were John and Jamie.
Now Jamie is my favourite and John is my least favourite
Thank you! Jamie is the one keeping the ranch going to be honest.
When I suffered through 2.5 seasons of this show I desperately wanted Beth to die in every episode.
So curious on how Jamie’s storyline plays out in the second half of Season 5. Have to wait, & see…
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I always felt bad for Jamie because he was a kid himself when he had to make that dreadful decision for Beth. SHE is the one that came to him asking for help. SHE didn't want to tell her parents. SHE didn't want him to go to town because they would recognize her. So her only other option was to go to the reservation for an abortion, but order for her to get one she she had to be sterilized. He didn't ask for it- it was protocol. . If she hadn't put herself in that situation, Jamie would never have been in the position to have to make such a drastic decision. Again, he was just a kid himself! People seem to forget that, especially Beth. What Jamie did was wrong- he should've just told their father at that point. But he didn't, and Beth blames him entirely for ruining her life when in reality, she was just as responsible but conveniently forgets that.
I agree. She did go to him and ask for help. Yes what he did was wrong, but it’s obvious he feels terrible for what he did. Beth shouldn’t be blaming him for everything that goes wrong in her life.
Agree. I like other aspects of Beth but fk the way she treated Jamie.
Only person to blame for Beth getting sterilized is Beth herself
Beth was partially at fault but keep a few things in mind:
1)When she became a teen until the point that her mom died, her mom mentally and emotionally abused her. Her mom even warned her that she was going to do it. Her mom also let her think that it was Beth's fault that she died when that wasn't true at all. It all messed her up which was why she started drinking and sleeping around.
2) Rip was the dad. If John knew he had gotten Beth pregnant, off to the train station Rip would have went. Mind you, she didn't know about the train station but she did know the ranch was all Rip had. She at least had an idea of the things her dad could do to Rip.
3)Beth is someone who would die for John so she would rather not upset him if possible. But back then, he made it so she couldn't go to him about it. John admitted that part of the blame was on himself. The family name was also at risk and that was another reason why Jaime & Beth didn't go to him. They were practically the founders of the area. John understood the legacy of the family and made it a point to tell them to protect it at all costs.
4)What Beth is really upset about was the fact that she was sterilized without her knowledge. Had Jamie told her about that aspect, she may have changed her mind. The woman at the clinic begged Jamie to take Beth somewhere else and he said "No"-family name, scandel, their legacy, etc. She asked him if it was ok and he said "yes" without batting an eye. At that moment, he was thinking more about John than Beth. She took his word that everything was going to work out. If she had known and made the choice, she would have taken the blame onto herself. But Jamie made that decision for her. She wanted an abortion not sterilization, she never agreed to the second aspect of the procedure.
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No native abortion clinic wouldn’t have talked it over before the procedure, esp to a white woman . Also a hysterectomy which she had is major surgery to an abortion. No way she would have been able to go about as she did.
Unfortunately her father doesn’t see any of them as children needing love or help , after the loss of his wife he closes off . Instead their relationships become fractured .
John is horrible to Jamie even before the mother’s death .
He treats all his son’s as transactions to further his agenda. With Jamie as the scapegoat. Hopefully Jamie tells his ex baby momma about the train station ,before they put him in it .
Only way Beth bonds with John is by becoming invested in the farm & business. Which is the only currency she knows to get by . Beth has no friends, close friendship’s, extended family ie aunts ,uncles ,cousins .
To Learn the layers of normal relationships , instead all her relationships become transactional.
John allows her independence , he also allows her disrespect for everyone , which becomes worse as an adult . She behaves like a psychopath with a personality disorder.
Even Rip pulls her up on her behaviour, especially when Carter cones along despite the trauma his childhood had . He knows it’s not normal.
I have to wonder: Did John stop Jamie from killing himself because he genuiely cared for him or because he had more use for him? And would he have let Jamie kill himself if he knew sooner about what happened between him and Beth?
Cynically: I think John only stopped him because he thinks a son dying by suicide would reflect poorly on John as a father.
@@Caffeine-Queen John’s family is cursed , hope Jamie wakes up and unravels their evil cabal.
My hope is Kaycee family takes over brings peace & healing to the cursed land . So the tapu is lifted .
@@Caffeine-Queen a good ending would be Jamie taking John to the "train station"
I saw Episode 1 narration without the last part. Liked it very much.
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The scene when jamie is gonna commit suicide. John still has no compassion for jamie. He said no one would care for jamie even if he offed himself. What a horrible father.
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Jamie's suicide attempt scene always brings me to tears because I've been there. John absolutely did not handle it well, he said some of the worst things you can say to a suicidal person, but that scene really had me empathizing with Jaime, especially when he said "I cannot be fixed." To anyone struggling right now reading this: you can be fixed, you can get better, and feeling suicidal isn't selfish. It's just pain, and we can heal from pain. I'm living proof of that. Stay strong, friends.
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Should of included that scene where Beth asked John to tell her that he honestly loved Jamie as much as her and Kayce, and John said nothing.
Should HAVE.
John isn't a feelsy person. I don't think he doesn't love Jamie. I think he's not affectionate and tender with his children.
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The best dialogues! Bravo
Here, I don't like his reaction, but of course, father knows how to handle it.
Off course Father knows how to handle it
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I like jamie and felt sorry for all his bad choices. Its not fair that he end as the bad guy.
john is the bad guy not jamie or beth
I’ve only seen clips of this show, and as much as I love Beth I feel that the family used Jamie as their scapegoat.
...yes, you're right, that it's not 'fair'...
I hope you mean that as praise for "Yellowstone" the series though! 😉
Your point about it being 'not fair', *is **_exactly_** what makes this show good!*
It's realistic. That, kind of thing, is _exactly_ what happens in life, *_all the time._*
No, it’s not fair. As I see it, Jamie is the best equipped to keep the ranch in the family, but John won’t consider any ideas apart from his own.
J'ai fini de regarder les 5 saisons et je suis furieuse !! Mais comment se finie cette serie ?
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John's biggest mistake was taking that riffle away from Jamie. The attack might not have happened, the impeachment and everything else Jamie's weakness brought to their home.
Jamie was easily influenced by the idea of self-preservation. As soon as he found out he was adopted after everything he did to reconnect with himself, he went back down the wrong path. He convinced himself that he was no longer John's son and that was just not true. Watch John's interaction with Jamie's birth father, and tell me he didn't love Jamie.
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John was nasty to him. Rather you love someone or not. If you fell to show them, they'll never know. Love is an action word. John even admitted he refused to show Jamie love.
@@laniquegolphin5004 Jamie was no better. He was almost always out for himself. He even tried to get John to sell land even when he said no twice.
@@laniquegolphin5004 Jamie is all about protecting himself. He was all ready to grovel and get back in John's good graces until he realized that he was cut out of the trust fund and even John said the only reason he did what he did was because he stood to inherit part of the ranch. Sooooo do with that what you will. Jamie is just as wrong.
@@laniquegolphin5004 He admitted to Beth that AFTER what happened. Jamie went against him TWICE. Tried to destroy him more than once. Yes, I would feel some pain for that too.
Poor Jamie man. Dudes just a smart idiot who dedicated his life to trying to please his dad. And he consistently says the wrong things .
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John has failed as a father let’s recap all he ever has done is use His children for his own benefit and all his children are a product of his failure. Beth is a psychopath and a narcissist, and she would do anything to please him considering that he sees her as a disappointment and Lee was his personal bodyguard/murderer, and Jamie was his own personal lawyer/go to guy just in case he needs him. And the only pure child of the family is Casey but overall his legacy is nothing but a failed father
Can we talk y'all? Is this a safe space? I hope so cause John treated Jamie so wrong. He never loved in the first place. I don't think he's ever supported any of his real wishes, which was unfair of him. In terms of Beth who I love so much, I can understand her fury, but she shouldn't have put it on Jamie, they were both kids who made wrong choices. I think the only one in this family who loved Jamie was Kayce.
Jamie was at his best living the cowboy life in season 2 and when he's defending the family, love seeing those times during the marathons, hate that he turned on them again!
Hard not to turn against a family that treats you like shit
They left him no reason to stay in their corner. There needs to be some incentive to cooperate and all he got was more threats and abuse.
Beth is the worst, literally such a horrible person.
She would do anything for her family you must not follow the storyline she's true to her family
@@denniswyatt6418 Lmao, you sure we watched the same show?
She was an asshole to everyone including Rip, like kissing other men in front of him while she was young fully knowing he loves her.
That's just the tip of the iceberg.
Agree. Never understand her hype.
@@denniswyatt6418 of course when raised by a toxic narcissist its no surprise he turned out a narcissist psychopath like Beth character. Kaycee is nothing like either , older brother we only got a glimpse of his character.
Jamie is product of being raised in such toxic masculinity & narcissistic abuse . In real life Jamie of this world would be addicted to drugs & alcohol to get through .
@@mohammadalloush8636yep, the character is horrible.
Sometimes committing suicide can be understood in a state of desperation. Will one then receive help, that question is asked in an unrealistic manner,it helps for once. it could still turn out differently.
Interesting
I agree with you 👍 Mohamed
Sounds just like what AOC is doing
Jamie Dutton was right From Bethany Dutton she's not the only one who protecting her father's legacy and his ranch and his family she's just protecting herself and that's it Jamie was right a course
I was right a course that Bethany won't protecting her father's ranch and his legacy she'll never look after anything
"You don't get to tell me what to do anymore"
"Then get the f*ck out of my house!"
Outstanding acting in that scene 👏
its cringe asl
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@@Leeterthanthouyes your comment is
7:30 does anyone get emotional during this scene
Only the ones who have been there brother
John Dutton is such a shit father.
He is an excellent villain protagonist and character but is a dreadful human being. John Dutton is a feudal landlord who's pretense to be a decent person. But will crush anyone who does not bow down to him. He's closer to Walter White of Breaking Bad defending his Empire. Than any John Wayne-type character
I think that's false. On _all_ counts! 😮
He isn't a feudal landlord. He isn't just _pretending_ to be a decent person. He wasn't crushing ppl who do not 'bow' down to him.
_Everything_ you said was wrong. Did you even watch all of it?
Assuming you did - Just a few 'in a nutshell' points:
(1) Learn what a feudal landlord really is.
(2) 'Decent Person' as a pretense only? He _was_ always a decent man! The only 'kinks' in his armour started when his wife died and even then, he was always as decent as he _could_ be to the best of his abilities. He's human, like all of us. To say anything else is holding him to unrealistic standards. He, always, tried to do the right thing. That's the whole thing that makes this show great! (Showing how it's impossible to be perfect. Showing how GOOD PPL do bad things and bad ppl do good things. What happens when GOOD ppl are faced with IMPOSSIBLE challenges).
OK, i'm rambling but that he was not 'decent' is ludicrous. He's as 'stand up' a guy, as could be!
(3) Crushing ppl who don't bow down to him?.... Again, patently false. Crushing 'enemies' (i.e those who attack you 1st), is not attacking ppl for now 'bowing down' to you!....
He was ruthless in self-defense, which is often the right choice, or rather, the rather, the 'practical' choice. Even then, he tried, many times, *_not_* to crush, more than once, before he _would_ crush - especially when ppl deserved a 2nd (or even 3rd) chance.
You are making these quick judgements, without much explanation....
I think the whole point, was to explore what happens to humans who _are_ 'decent', 'good fathers', 'land owners/employers' etc when faced with impossible situations!
@@OldManPaxusYT I like John but he's a horrible father he does not give unconditional love to any of his children. He only sees his children as tools and what they can do for him and then gives them his love. He is a very rich man who murders literally anyone who steps on his property and then Brands those reviews are loyal. You brand what you own. He is not a simple man defending his land is a wealthy man defending his Empire. He's closer to Walter White of Breaking Bad defending his Empire. Than any John Wayne-type character. Are they are worst people in the show, absolutely. He cultivates Rick into a hardened attack dog to kill his enemies. He is one of the richest landowners in the entire state fiction. He runs for governor to maintain his own personal power. Not to benefit his fellow citizens but to benefit themselves he's as greedy as any politician infection similar to House of Cards.
Oh yeah he’s a horrible human that’s why he’s confined to the prison of fiction and man he’s my favorite inmate
@@OldManPaxusYTwow this fandom is truly something
@@Cowboy-crown 100%, I love the character and I love show
John hates jamie for being a dark reflection of himself
Why doesn't Jaimie just leave the ranch? the guy is a good lawyer, let him just go to New York or Washington to build a political or legal career, and let him stay away from this sick family that despises him.
What would you say the MAIN problem with their relationship is?
Jamie being adopted. I think John subconsciously treated him differently and Jamie felt it.
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BETH is the worst character in this entire show
yep...rip deservesb better
Because she has to be.
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Very strong individuals thats why its a great series.
How so?
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At this point why bother? Yellowstone, 1883, 1923 WERE great. But you lost my attention. I assume we'll watch at some point. But really, who cares.
No way beth is the cool cat
Oh you b_______!
Ending, even a compilation, on a cliff-hanger?!!! Come on!
Jaime is a tool!!!!
Jamie won’t survive in part 2. Can’t wait until November.
Jamie is not a good person, weakness took his entire mind. He should leaved the Yellowstone when had a chance, and forget all of this people.
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I think there will be a seat forJamie on that long black train....just saying.
Absolutely! He’ll have Beth wrapped in a carpet ready to toss off the cliff 😂😂
Beth is dope in this series
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Jaime is the worst
HOLLY BOY ITS GOING TO GET STICKY I DINT LIKE JAMIE AT ALL NEVER HAVE 😮
No compassion then eh? 😉
Love Jamie! My favourite character
Beth is the best
If you like toxic, narcissistic psychopaths.