Charging Deep-Cycle Batteries: Leave Them Plugged In Or Not? | Bass Fishing

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  • @statesmanuel
    @statesmanuel Год назад +7

    Absolutely agree with that 8-gauge recommendation. When it comes to your own "stuff", there is no such thing as "Overkill". I've been in the marine electronics biz for 45 years, and must say that this vid is a goldmine of good advice (now I'll look at more of your vids).

    • @bassresource
      @bassresource  Год назад

      Thank you so much, and thanks for watching!

    • @ehtrudawg6089
      @ehtrudawg6089 Год назад

      13:19 I have an on board charger and need to know the best way to keep my three batteries maintained. Like, should I use 14:15 solar as my boat is stored at a facility with no electricity access. Would appreciate any advice.

  • @wickedbassn
    @wickedbassn Год назад +12

    I do the same. Plug them in after fishing, and unplug the next morning. I make sure to plug them back in the night before my next trip even though they are most likely good to go.

    • @bassresource
      @bassresource  Год назад +1

      Sounds like a good plan! Are you also doing the other things mentioned in the video?

  • @pensnut08
    @pensnut08 Год назад +8

    This should be required viewing for anybody who charges a battery.
    WELL DONE AND EASY TO UNDERSTAND!!!

    • @bassresource
      @bassresource  Год назад +2

      Hi pensnut08. Thanks for the feedback and support. I look forward to hearing more from you.

  • @edyoung6573
    @edyoung6573 4 месяца назад +1

    Very informative and I 100% agree with you!! Especially with the extension cords!! I have 3 and are all 50 feet and 8 gauge! I picked up a AGM (blue top) for my Old Lance 880, my kinda old Sears Die hard Platinum Charger actually has a AGM/Gel setting, I set the amps to 15 and after it charges it goes into float mode. So far so good.

  • @FULLCIRCLEBAND
    @FULLCIRCLEBAND Год назад +3

    I have a 2013 Ranger, with the Dual Pro charger. It has been been plugged in 24/7 for 11 years with the same charger. I use Deka 31 AGM's, these batteries are 8 years old and still run all day long. Think I will keep on doing exactly what I have been doing. One thing, every time we have thunderstorms, I unplug my charger.

    • @lowvpro9651
      @lowvpro9651 Год назад +1

      I've done about the same for years. It's never been a issue.

  • @mattperske6594
    @mattperske6594 Год назад +3

    Plug mine in when done fishing and unplug when fully charged. I turn off my battery disconnect and unplug my trolling motor at the bow. Been doing this years with both pro mariner and NOCO chargers. I have a lead acid main and two blue top optimas.

  • @mikewelter180
    @mikewelter180 Год назад +1

    I'm glad to have come across this video. About 4 1/2 years ago I purchased a 1989 Charger that was in pretty good condition for its age. It had a Bass Pro XPS 3 bank charger on it that appeared to function as it should. I wasn't sure if it had a built-in maintenance mode or not. I asked some of my club buddy's if they kept their chargers plugged in all the time or not. Most stated that they kept theirs plugged in all the time. So, I did the same. I did this for around a year until I walked into my garage one morning and noticed this nasty smell like something overheating. Even though I topped off the batteries every other month, the smell turned out to be three cooked batteries. Since then, I've upgraded to a 4 bank system (I purchased an Ultrex) and now I only charge the batteries after a fishing trip, then once a week or the night before another trip. I've done this for the past three years with no problems.

    • @bassresource
      @bassresource  Год назад

      Glad you liked it! Thanks for watching.

    • @terryo4895
      @terryo4895 4 дня назад

      @@mikewelter180 bad charger mike, has to stepdown to maintenance mode or cooked battery.

  • @alanaho4915
    @alanaho4915 Год назад +1

    I have s Noco with Float, Maintenance, and plug in as soon as I get the boat home. And I left them plugged in 24/7. I've been thinking about unplugging them after a few days. Your explanation makes sense. I think I will try that and plug back in the day before I head back to the water. Good video, thanks!

    • @bassresource
      @bassresource  Год назад +1

      Glad to help, Alan Aho. Let me know how it works out as I would love to see the results.

    • @brianrydzeski6108
      @brianrydzeski6108 4 месяца назад

      I use a NOCO on my cruiser motorcycle. When I'm not riding, it is plugged in. Battery is 12 years old and works fine. Read the manual-follow the instructions. Make sure your model of charger is designed to leave them plugged in. I have a 6 month riding season due to weather. It's plugged in all winter.

  • @timboomhower
    @timboomhower Год назад +1

    I deal with batteries as a part of my job. They are deep discharge types used for battery backup systems (UPS's). As a standard, a UPS system goes through a cycle charging batteries for about 30 days then resting for about 30 days. Also, the charging system is not constant current. Batteries are charged to float voltage of 13.5vdc and no more. Otherwise you risk shortening the life or risking premature damage from overcharging.

    • @timboomhower
      @timboomhower Год назад

      As an add, this would apply to any battery.

  • @tombiga8254
    @tombiga8254 5 месяцев назад

    What should be done during winter storage? AGM as for Optima died quickly in year or two ie sulfate, should I leave it plugged in or plug it in like ever week to make sure it stays at 12.4 so sulfate won't happen again, I have Schumacher charger maintainer for AGM etc which I use on all vehicles and boat no longer have onboard charging since I went to lithium for trolling motor only cause it would fry a Opti max

  • @kevinswinyer3176
    @kevinswinyer3176 6 месяцев назад

    Here is my situation. I am living in a Small Camper Trailer, with no Electricity. I have a 2000 Watt Inverter, and have been thinking about getting a 12 Volt Deep Cycle Marine Battery to hook up to my Inverter. Can I safely run either my Microwave, or Hot Air Fryer for 5 to 10 minutes to cook a decent meal ? For charging purposes, I know I need a floater Charger, but my question is can I plug that charger into the same inverter that is hooked up to the same battery to keep that battery topped off, or would I need to use a different power source to power the Floater Charger ?

  • @kennyw6932
    @kennyw6932 Год назад

    Some good pointers in your presentation. I've always stayed plugged in. My last battery a size 31 exactly one year old and I decided to check the cells for liquid level after being plugged in for three months. Walla, liquid level in three cells was below the plates. Plates still wet, TYJ? Topped them off with distilled water. Learning curve here, check the liquid level at least once a month if you leave plugged in. I now follow your practice, however, I bring up to snuff and repeat every three weeks during down season. Great video, thanks for sharing.

    • @bassresource
      @bassresource  Год назад

      That’s a good tip as well, Kenny W. Thanks for sharing.

  • @GabrielSBarbaraS
    @GabrielSBarbaraS Месяц назад

    Love your background " sitting in a boat in a garage "

  • @viragovtwin
    @viragovtwin Год назад +1

    A transformer based charger will suffer from an inadequate extension cord. A battery charger that uses switch mode technology has the ability to compensate somewhat in a brownout situation. Consider that a 30 Amp 12v charger will tend to pull slightly more than 3 amps from a 120v line and will draw more current during a brown out.

  • @bowmandw
    @bowmandw 4 месяца назад

    My deep cycle changes up fully but when it goes in to maintenance mode it shows a fault. So I start it over and the same result.Maybe I should check water lever it use large gauge drop cord. Where would you start.

  • @MP-qn1jw
    @MP-qn1jw 10 месяцев назад +1

    Extension cords!!! YES!! I just got a used 26' coastal, and it had 2 50' 16ga ext cords with a 30A adapter at one end. The socket on both cords had been melted. LOL, right in the garbage they go. I never buy anything less than 12ga, even 6' cords. Also, remember the 80% rule from the NEC. As for you killing chargers, get better chargers. Just because it came with your boat does not mean it is worth spit. Many manufacturers partner up, and even if the product is piss poor they will still push it as a "package". Try a charger from a company that only makes power products, and not a company that makes trolling motors. I am a firm believer of no other company can do what Yamaha does. Meaning, specialty manufacturing is where it's at. Buying a MinnKota charger is like going to Burger King for a salad. I applaud your dedication to topping off once a week, but what if you are gone for a month? Do you think you will get away with that if the boat sits in the water for months on end? I certainly will not unplug my battery charger while my boat is in the water at the dock. Bilge pump eventually will need to run when it rains. People do have chargers that work very well constantly plugged in, constantly topping off the battery(s), and they do this for years on end. Sad to hear about your bad luck with chargers, but it might be time to look in to a better charger. I like Victron Energy. >$200 for a single battery charger @25A. Pricey, yes but well worth it. Their charger is totally programmable so you can greatly extend the number of cycles, or run hard to get every Wh possible out of the battery. Good luck!! Fish On!!

    • @bassresource
      @bassresource  10 месяцев назад

      Awesome. Thanks for the feedback @MP-qn1jw!

  • @noahriding5780
    @noahriding5780 11 месяцев назад +2

    What's the max amount of time you can have pass on your fishing batteries to not have them damaged with how long they can remain uncharged? Obviously I'm going to charge them up as soon as possible, but I wondered what kind of window of time you have on this? To my knowledge I haven't seen people talk about this.

    • @bassresource
      @bassresource  11 месяцев назад +1

      It's dependent upon many factors that affect the age and condition of the batteries. Too many to have a one-size-fits-all answer, other than charging them as soon as you're able.

    • @noahriding5780
      @noahriding5780 11 месяцев назад

      Thanks for the reply. It does seem interesting to learn from you and other people about these topics. @@bassresource

  • @pine0981
    @pine0981 Год назад +1

    I have done both......... no data either way. Overall good video.

  • @thaomai1268
    @thaomai1268 2 месяца назад +1

    Plug mine in when done fishing and unplug when fully charged. I turn off my battery disconnect and unplug my trolling motor at the bow. Been doing this years with both pro mariner and NOCO chargers. I have a lead acid main and two blue top optimas.

  • @geostrong3606
    @geostrong3606 6 месяцев назад

    What is the battery chargers u recommend for my bass boat 3 bank

  • @babjwmson
    @babjwmson 9 месяцев назад +1

    Good safety advises on the charger life, 8-12 rated power extension cord and for the life of the batteries.

    • @bassresource
      @bassresource  9 месяцев назад

      Thanks for watching @babjwmson!

  • @timg185
    @timg185 5 месяцев назад

    I replaced the charger in my 1996 Cajun . Around the year 2001. I bought a $200 bass pro charger and installed it my self. It was still working when I traded my boat in , in 2019 . I’m a guy that alway left mine plugged in. I also had 2 Walmart batteries. 1 was 7 years old and the other was 11 years old.

    • @timg185
      @timg185 5 месяцев назад

      For clarity I did replace the batteries. But that’s how old they were when I replaced them.

  • @johnproctor3071
    @johnproctor3071 Год назад

    Is there a problem taking batteries out and putting them back in? Unfortunately, I do not have the space to park my boat at my residence. I have to store my boat at a storage facility. I haven't had any issues yet, but everything is fairly new. Am I doing any long-term damage to the batteries or electronics on the boat?

    • @bassresource
      @bassresource  Год назад

      Shouldn't be any problem at all. Pro tip: Mark all your wires so you know how to connect them back.

  • @jimwhite3096
    @jimwhite3096 Год назад

    Glen , so good to see you back !!!! The other guys with the seven minute video's are not good

    • @bassresource
      @bassresource  Год назад

      Nice! We love to hear feedback like this. Thanks for being a loyal viewer!

  • @craigcampbell2687
    @craigcampbell2687 Год назад

    If you have a portable charger and unplug it from wall outlet do you need to disconnect charger from battery terminals?

  • @newwavepressure6478
    @newwavepressure6478 Год назад +1

    Can I charge my deep cycle trolling battery with The one I use on my car battery like regular car charger

    • @bassresource
      @bassresource  Год назад

      It depends. If it has a "deep cycle" switch, then yes, you can use it.

  • @ermannodangelo1062
    @ermannodangelo1062 Год назад

    Good informative video, love those AC Delco batteries. Used to be able to buy them at Costco, now their Kirkland but I’m sure it’s just a label on a Delco batteriy.

    • @bassresource
      @bassresource  Год назад

      Yes, absolutely Ermanno D'Angelo! Thanks for watching!

  • @alanaho4915
    @alanaho4915 Год назад

    My new extension cord came today. Changing out the 15 ft, 16AWG/13A cord wth a 15 ft, 12AWG/15A cord for my NOCO 3 bank 5AMP (per bank). I will see if my batteries charge faster, especially my cranking battery (always seems to take longer than my troll batteries).

    • @bassresource
      @bassresource  Год назад +1

      Cranking batteries typically take longer to charge, usually because that's the battery that all the electronics use.

  • @keithmason8322
    @keithmason8322 Год назад +1

    Makes perfect sense👍

  • @jessicalafond4798
    @jessicalafond4798 4 месяца назад

    So should I be doing maintenance mode at night

    • @bassresource
      @bassresource  4 месяца назад

      No. Once the battery is charged, then once every 2-3 weeks is fine.

  • @MrJohnB-qs6dp
    @MrJohnB-qs6dp Год назад

    Great video!!! Thanks for the good advise!! Stay Safe & God Bless!!!!

  • @winstonrocco1981
    @winstonrocco1981 Год назад +1

    You can also charge after fishing then go to harbor freight and buy those little maintainers put one on each battery and forget about it. They work batteries will live a long time and they are hot. I just plug my onboard charger back in to check the night before I fish . I’ve got the same interstate batteries that came on boat new it’s a 2017 just saying
    Tight lines

  • @sportsmobile8328
    @sportsmobile8328 8 месяцев назад

    You are Correct 🎯

    • @bassresource
      @bassresource  8 месяцев назад

      Thanks for the support, @sportsmobile8328, and thanks for watching!

  • @1964krazyeric
    @1964krazyeric Год назад

    This is a great and informative video. I have been wondering these things.

    • @bassresource
      @bassresource  Год назад

      Glad you liked it! Thanks for watching.

  • @martyl7600
    @martyl7600 Год назад

    What are good charger brands for lead acid troll

  • @lonelypinebeefarm4297
    @lonelypinebeefarm4297 Год назад

    Go based on the gauge the. Charger came with. And go 1 size down for a drop cord. Simple. If the charger came with a 16 gauge use a 14 gauge drop cord.

    • @bassresource
      @bassresource  Год назад

      That’s a good tip as well, Lonely Pine bee farm. Thanks for sharing.

  • @tomrunning357
    @tomrunning357 Год назад

    I would think having a surge protection before the charger might be a good idea if these onboard chargers are that expensive. Just thinking.

    • @bassresource
      @bassresource  Год назад

      That’s a good tip as well, Tom Running. Thanks for sharing.

    • @alanaho4915
      @alanaho4915 Год назад

      I have mine plugged into a surge protector. I like the added protection.

  • @smalliehound
    @smalliehound Год назад

    I recommend the Dual Pro B.O.S. It will absolutely extend the life of your batteries. And, it keeps them optimized so that they don't need to be plugged in all the time. Which, as you mentioned, prematurely wears out your chargers.

  • @jpaul4788
    @jpaul4788 Год назад

    The only batteries that last me 5 -6 years were interstate megatron when I purchased my boat, I was to cheap to pay for retail price ,well I found out that if you go to actual interstate store you $ 30 -40 dollars cheaper , you don’t pay the middle man

    • @bassresource
      @bassresource  Год назад

      That’s a good tip as well, JPaul. Thanks for sharing.

  • @deddie4645
    @deddie4645 11 месяцев назад

    I agree completely heavier extension cords or better.... The why does my $200 battery, Is charger, Maintainer, desulfider,,, In unicorn dust mode.. charger have an 18 gauge power cord.... Don't answer....

    • @bassresource
      @bassresource  10 месяцев назад

      Watch the video. It's answered in the video. (See, I didn't answer here)

  • @TradeWorks_Construction
    @TradeWorks_Construction 4 месяца назад

    wanted to simply correct a misunderstanding about wire gauge size for AWG cross-sectional size doubles for every 3AWG size increase. Since wire cross-section is the determining factor for how much current the wire can handle a 10 AWG wire can handle 4X what a 16 AWG can all things being equal.

    • @bassresource
      @bassresource  4 месяца назад

      The video mentions a 10 AWG wire handles more current than a 16 AWG wire, so no misunderstanding. But thanks for that level of detail!

  • @jasonbroom7147
    @jasonbroom7147 Год назад +1

    Not about lithium iron-phosphate batteries? Might as well talk about rotary dial phones, 8-track cassette tapes or horse-drawn carriages. There's almost zero situations where LFP isn't the superior choice, and that includes TCO for folks who argue SLA or AGM is "cheaper".

    • @bassresource
      @bassresource  Год назад

      Given the overwhelming majority of boaters use lead-acid batteries, this video is extremely relevant and helpful. Maybe 10 years from now that won't be the case. That is, of course, if the cost of lithium batteries continues to go down.

    • @jasonbroom7147
      @jasonbroom7147 Год назад +1

      @@bassresource - The TCO of lithium batteries is already lower than any lead-acid option. If you have lead-acid, right now, I can understand wanting to get the most life out of them, but anyone replacing or buying their first trolling motor or electronics battery would be ill-advised to go with anything other than lithium iron-phosphate. That's not 10 years from now, that's today. SLA and AGM are still applicable for cranking batteries.

    • @babyreps365
      @babyreps365 Год назад

      Recommendations for a charger I can leave plugged in 24/7 for my lithium batteries?

    • @jasonbroom7147
      @jasonbroom7147 Год назад

      @@babyreps365- You don't leave lithium batteries plugged in 24/7, because they don't self-discharge the way a lead-acid battery does. As far as an on-board charging system goes, I use the Noco Genius and have been very happy with it.

  • @CDSilverado
    @CDSilverado Год назад

    You're "basically" right. One more added anomaly, HEAT.
    Anything that causes heat needs to be checked out. Cords, outlets, plugs, of course, the Chargers. Heat usually indicates power loss

    • @bassresource
      @bassresource  Год назад

      That’s a good tip as well, Curt Dumitras. Thanks for sharing.

    • @alanaho4915
      @alanaho4915 Год назад

      Here in Arizona, where it's hot, I'm told by many that batteries (vehicle and boat) last 2, maybe 3 years. I'm experiencing that, so anything that will prolong battery life, I welcome.

  • @robertlivingston1634
    @robertlivingston1634 8 месяцев назад

    Watts ÷volts = amps that determines the size wire required for the job,8 gauge wire is complete overkill for a 120 volt charger if you're trying to pull 6000 Watts through a 15 amp receptacle there's your week link. I charge my batteries and unplug and check them occasionally to see if they need to be topped off, my starting battery has a parasitic draw but my trolling batteries will hold a charge for months.

    • @bassresource
      @bassresource  8 месяцев назад

      You got that right! Thanks for watching, @robertlivingston1634!

  • @davidpatterson8151
    @davidpatterson8151 Год назад

    What is brand of the charger and batteries you've been using for 14 years

    • @bassresource
      @bassresource  Год назад

      Dual Pro 4 bank charger. The batteries aren't 14 years old though.

    • @bassresource
      @bassresource  Год назад

      They're AC Delco Marine batteries, believe it or not. Affordable and reliable.

  • @veterunco4405
    @veterunco4405 7 месяцев назад

    Thank you

  • @wsbill14224
    @wsbill14224 10 месяцев назад

    You shouldn't paint with such a wide brush. If you need to charge one boat or car battery you can use an extension cord just fine as long as your charger is on the small side. If you draw 6 Amps at 14 Volts you're only going to be drawing 84 Watts of energy so the current on the 120 Volt side will be less than one amp, so the cord won't get hot and cause low voltage and safety hazards. And no one uses 8 gauge can you say overkill? Good quality extension cords are the same size as the cord on power tools. If I leave my 6 Amp Shumacher charger from 1987 connected to my battery it will eventually overcharge so I have to disconnect it once the current drops to an amp or so, telling me the battery is charged. Today's chargers can detect a fully charged battery then go into trickle or storage mode. You need to understand what type of charger you have. They are not created equal and I'm not talking about how much current they can deliver. Once your batteries are charged they can sit for a couple months but they need to be topped here and there especially in cold climates. Batteries hate cold there's no way around it.

  • @winstonrocco1981
    @winstonrocco1981 6 месяцев назад

    I almost caught a guest 4 bank charger on fire using a 16 gauge 100 ft extension cord. Charger and cord melted and was smokin

  • @kenmccarthyfishing
    @kenmccarthyfishing Год назад

    Thank you Glenn,great video

    • @bassresource
      @bassresource  Год назад +1

      Yes, absolutely Ken Mccarthy Fishing! Thanks for watching!

  • @michaelcee4808
    @michaelcee4808 Год назад

    Impedence rule of thumb: extension cords need to be upsized when footage exceeds voltage

    • @bassresource
      @bassresource  Год назад

      You got that right! Thanks for watching, Michael Cee!

    • @michaelcee4808
      @michaelcee4808 Год назад

      I listened to the rest just now and I’m curious where you even found an 8 gauge extension for 120v use. 8 gauge handles 40-55 amps depending on insulation type, which far exceeds the ampacity of 12g or 14g wire on the wall receptacle. 8g would rarely be applicable outside of 220v situations.

  • @claydo364
    @claydo364 3 месяца назад +1

    Review phycology 🤔🤔🤣😁

  • @johnstetson
    @johnstetson 4 месяца назад

    8 gauge wire is rated at 50 amps- thats rediculous to plug in a battery charger. An 8 gauge extension cord will have a 50 amp cord cap on it =it wont plug into a typical house outlet. A 14 gauge extension cord is rated at 15 amps = thats what your house is probably wired with- 14 gauge romex

    • @bassresource
      @bassresource  4 месяца назад

      @johnstetson, glad I can help. Thanks for subscribing as well.

  • @blairexodus8005
    @blairexodus8005 Год назад

    should I leave my lawnmower battery charged 24/7? Will it raise my electric bill?

  • @joehunt4506
    @joehunt4506 Год назад

    Use a smart charger and they shut off when fully charged

    • @bassresource
      @bassresource  Год назад +1

      That's only part of the answer. If you don't follow the rest of the info in the video, you'll have issues.

    • @MrRobinski
      @MrRobinski 11 месяцев назад

      Can you mention the other issues you mean specifically? Thanks@@bassresource

  • @djl8841
    @djl8841 3 месяца назад

    Just get a genius charger. It will never overcharge. Yoy can leave them plugged in 24/7 365 a year. This is a battery charger issue.

  • @chrispeterson1247
    @chrispeterson1247 Год назад +1

    I plug mine in the day before i go fishing, never when i get home. havnt had an issue yet.

    • @bassresource
      @bassresource  Год назад

      Thanks for watching @chrispeterson1247!

  • @terryo4895
    @terryo4895 4 дня назад

    If you use your boat regularly doesn't your alternator charge your battery.
    Every time you cycle or charge your battery you remove life....

    • @bassresource
      @bassresource  4 дня назад

      While it can charge the battery somewhat, the outboard's alternator is not a battery charger. You would need to drive for a long time to charge a single battery 100%, which isn't possible. And if you have multiple batteries, especially if they are deep-cycle batteries, you'll never fully charge them. It's far worse to keep a battery partially charged than to fully charge them after each use.

  • @stevefisher2553
    @stevefisher2553 Год назад

    Do not

    • @bassresource
      @bassresource  Год назад

      Do or do not. There is no try.

    • @stevefisher2553
      @stevefisher2553 Год назад

      @@bassresource do not leave chargers on your boat or golf carts.