Amagon Defence Force here. Don't listen to them, the game's great. It's easy enough to grind for extra lives if you need them to figure out the enemy patterns. You can even use the Megagon energy wave to gain pickups the same way you would with the rifle, although it's a risk to your health metre.
One thing I didn't touch on is the extra lives. There's a small handful of spots where you can intermittently farm extra lives (sometimes they stop working.) Even with this, I still died so many times I lost all my lives and had to start from the beginning. The megagon energy wave also takes away from your health as mentioned in the episode so it's counter productive to use it. So you would be using the energy wave to gain more energy to use the energy wave? I get what they were trying to do. I just don't think it was a fun game. I totally respect your opinion though, this is one of those love it or hate it kinda games. Also, please start an Amazon Defense Force for real because that sounds awesome hahah :)
@Capmax finally another gamer who understands amagon! This game is about reaction time, enemy patterns, and grinding where you can for points (which go hand in hand with the reaction time and patterns :) ). I often grind as many lives as I can in 1-2 near the end and near the end of 3-2. The only crutch in this game for me are those cheap skulls in 4-1 (or was it 4-2?). If I make it past those, the rest of the game is smooth sailing comparatively speaking compared to the rest of it.
I don't absolutely hate the way it looks and the gameplay does look pretty nice, with the addition of the transformation being a nice choice. But yeah the overlying problems would definitely make me stray away.
If this game had a life bar it’d b a game changer. There was potential. Every now and then I forget how rough it is and throw it in. Then I remember lol
best comment i read in here. People love following the bandwagon of a youtuber posting negative things about a game and never constructive talk about its merits. Someone should release a rom hack to either 1. make continues starting on world 4, actually spawn you in world 4, or make continues exist all game and starting you on the world you died in as well. I'm not sure what can be done by the run out of bullets syndrome. That would be a hard one to fix unless they want to make the gun act like a sword does in other nes games. I beat this game 4-5 times and usually come back to it every other year. This game needs a romhack :D
Thanks, we really tried to make something that was a tribute to the old days. I've continued to try and carry that flag for everyone. Glad you enjoyed it!
I remember walking home from school telling my friend that my parents would never let me get a nes. Well we walked through the door and my mom was playing Tetris on my new nes! She was hooked and wouldn’t let me play. So while waiting for my turn I walked to blockbuster and rented my first game.... I picked Amagon....
This game is amazing... one of the games i had as a kid. Total nostalgia, i don't think i ever beat it as a kid but the music and transforming into a big muscle guy was def. cool. I still like it today ... to all those who don't like it.. GIT GUD. It's the dark souls of contra games lol
I like how different this game is to other games. the controls are actually precise and easy to control, the so the only thing hurting the player is their own reaction time and inabillity to recognize enemy patterns. Almost like an IQ test. You should give this game a try again, it is a perfect example of nintendo hard, and it does feel rewarding beating it. Although the last 2 levels are somewhat of a joke.
I didn't out much time into this one and such a shame. It could be so much better, like you said having tight controls but missing the bar on other elements. Good review guys
Yeah everything is just kinda meh but the controls are decent. The game's difficulty really brings it down. I think if they just offered continues from the beginning..even if they were numbered, it would've been more balanced.
Me, my Dad, and my Dad's friend used to play the crap out of this game. Not because we enjoyed it so much, but because the ridiculous difficulty as you guys mentioned. I was never able to beat it. I haven't played it since then but I do have it in my collection. I remember ammo being a larger issue than you experience though, so I wonder what we were doing wrong back then.
Ammo is less of an issue if you're using the Amagon powers when you get them. You cannot finish this game without the Amagon powers. If you only try to run 'n gun your way through the game, you'll be quite frustrated with your lack of results.
I'm starting to wonder if maybe that's what it was. Of course I didn't have a manual or anything so might have not figured out the Amagon power... though I swear I did. Whatevs. Not a game I'm really planning on delving into again haha.
Nah I disagree with this review whole heartedly, but agree with a lot of the arguments inside of it. I'm a pretty big NES collector myself, and out of my vast collection this one is one of my hidden gems. 1. its a nintendo hard game. Practice makes perfect, I never needed emulation with save-states, I just kept at it. Honestly I had a harder time with ghost and goblins. 2. I agree with the continue system being lame. I can understand if they didn't want to allow continues until later on as sort of a reward for getting so far in the game, but forcing the player to play the previous world is a huge middle finger. 3. This actually adds on to #2. After I beat world 4 (the world where the continues start) the game gets drastically easier, I can practically just run through the remaining levels. Which makes the only world I even need to use continues on World 4... 4. I always used the megagon keys strategically. I only did it during the rocket turtle sequences in world 2, and end level bosses mostly. This allows me to gather more and more points for if I want to do an emergency megagon pop. 5. Now lets talk about the sudo "Super Mario Mechanics". To me this is one of the most important aspects of the game, that most people do not talk about or have not paid enough attention or played the game long enough to even be aware of. When you kill enemies in sequences over and over without missing, the point power ups get larger and larger and eventually max out to the "Crown" max point power ups and "Extra Life" power ups. Near the end of 1-2 is one of the best examples of this. If you can hit every enemy coming at you without missing you quickly rack up points and and extra lives like crazy. It actually adds a nice goal to work on which the game will reward you later one when you pop the megagon pop-up, or by allow you to live longer due to those extra lives. If anything it this aspect of the game makes up for the lack of continues in the first half. Music: I have never minded the music in amagon, I know its not the best or memorable, but to me it still at least fits the intensity of the game. Graphics: People need to realize that the purple is due to not wanting the character to match the green/brown backgrounds of the game. I think the graphics are fine, while maybe the developer could have worked a little harder to avoid using purple, it is not a game killer for me. This game is definitely not deserving of Pat the NES "hack" Punk's rating of 1.5 stars in his Ultimate NES Guide book. At worst I would give it a 3.5. It is not a masterpiece by any means due to its "quirky" flaws, but remove these flaws and its a pretty solid "nintendohard" game.
I'm not trying to twist your words here, but you say the game is "Nintendo hard" but then admit the flaws of the difficulty and the continues which I mentioned artificially inflate the difficulty. You're correct that memorization is the key to victory (along with abusing the overpowered Megagon and 1-up farming. ) But similar to Ninja Gaiden III having artificially inflated difficulty with a lack of continues, it's fair to compare other Nintendo games difficulty to showcase the difference between fair and unfair. My issue wasn't that they used purple in the graphics, it's that it bleeds into the blue backgrounds. Ultimately, it's ok to agree to disagree about a game. If you think it's a hidden gem in the library, that's your call. There's lots of games I think are hidden gems that others don't, for sure.
The thing about the game that gets me is just how awkward it is in its presentation. It's not quirky and charming. It's not imaginative and fun. It's bizarre, yet lifeless -- almost discomforting in its aesthetic. Why are the island creatures so bland? Why does the hero skyrocket to Earth as soon as you let go of the jump button? Why does his larger form punch at such odd angles? Why does a disembodied lion head grow a ram's head out of the back of it? Why are you barefoot?
You guys are being way too hard on this game. If this game is that horrible then 75% of the games on nes were horrible. I grew up playing this game and it's a very average nes game for the time. You say it's too up beat and happy, that's the way most games of 8 bit era were. Games didn't start to get dark and violent till the 16 bit era. This game was hard and I was only able to beat it as a kid by using a game genie, so were most nes games. Between me and my friends, the only 2 nes games we ever beat as kids were mario 3 and believe it or not karate kid. This game was no harder than any other nes game. I could sit here all day and name nes games that are worse than amagon.
"This game is the worst, but the controls are OK and the graphics are OK and the sound is really good in that one stage. But it doesn't let you continue till you're mostly through with the game and it's really hard."
I watched this video in the dentist's chair waiting to get numb. I disagree. I think the controls suck. Everything about Amagon is bad. And you can use your gun as a club when you run out of ammo.
Yeah I think I mention the fact that you can use your gun as a weapon when you run out of bullets. I mean,moving left and right isn't delayed, you can duck, everything is really responsive...I had way less of a problem with the controls, personally.
Believe it or not, it didn't get flagged. I even specifically selected certain things I thought would get flagged and it still got approved. I don't make enough views for them to care lol
I miss stuff like this. Its like a throwback to the golden years of RUclips.
That's exactly what we tried to accomplish. Nice to see you around again! :)
1:19,huh? I didn't notice the Power Rangers Legacy collection behind ya. Nice collect btw.
Amagon Defence Force here. Don't listen to them, the game's great. It's easy enough to grind for extra lives if you need them to figure out the enemy patterns. You can even use the Megagon energy wave to gain pickups the same way you would with the rifle, although it's a risk to your health metre.
One thing I didn't touch on is the extra lives. There's a small handful of spots where you can intermittently farm extra lives (sometimes they stop working.) Even with this, I still died so many times I lost all my lives and had to start from the beginning. The megagon energy wave also takes away from your health as mentioned in the episode so it's counter productive to use it. So you would be using the energy wave to gain more energy to use the energy wave? I get what they were trying to do. I just don't think it was a fun game. I totally respect your opinion though, this is one of those love it or hate it kinda games. Also, please start an Amazon Defense Force for real because that sounds awesome hahah :)
@@Dongled I'm gonna get a Amagon Defence Force tramp stamp! lol
@Capmax finally another gamer who understands amagon! This game is about reaction time, enemy patterns, and grinding where you can for points (which go hand in hand with the reaction time and patterns :) ). I often grind as many lives as I can in 1-2 near the end and near the end of 3-2. The only crutch in this game for me are those cheap skulls in 4-1 (or was it 4-2?). If I make it past those, the rest of the game is smooth sailing comparatively speaking compared to the rest of it.
I don't absolutely hate the way it looks and the gameplay does look pretty nice, with the addition of the transformation being a nice choice. But yeah the overlying problems would definitely make me stray away.
As it should!
Nice I have the game in my collection but I remember renting it back in the day and as a kid being really frustrated.
Yeah I spent hours capturing footage and couldn't make it past the first two levels until I decided to play it on my flash cart.
If this game had a life bar it’d b a game changer. There was potential. Every now and then I forget how rough it is and throw it in. Then I remember lol
Yeah, a life bar would definitely help.
Someone should make a hack of this and fix some of the problems.
best comment i read in here. People love following the bandwagon of a youtuber posting negative things about a game and never constructive talk about its merits. Someone should release a rom hack to either 1. make continues starting on world 4, actually spawn you in world 4, or make continues exist all game and starting you on the world you died in as well.
I'm not sure what can be done by the run out of bullets syndrome. That would be a hard one to fix unless they want to make the gun act like a sword does in other nes games.
I beat this game 4-5 times and usually come back to it every other year. This game needs a romhack :D
Enjoyed the video, guys. I miss stuff like this.
Thanks, we really tried to make something that was a tribute to the old days. I've continued to try and carry that flag for everyone. Glad you enjoyed it!
man......i wanna watch more 2010 youtubers now.....this took me back. content is so much better than the channels i watch nowadays.
I remember walking home from school telling my friend that my parents would never let me get a nes. Well we walked through the door and my mom was playing Tetris on my new nes! She was hooked and wouldn’t let me play. So while waiting for my turn I walked to blockbuster and rented my first game.... I picked Amagon....
Oof...I'm so sorry.
This game is amazing... one of the games i had as a kid. Total nostalgia, i don't think i ever beat it as a kid but the music and transforming into a big muscle guy was def. cool. I still like it today ... to all those who don't like it.. GIT GUD. It's the dark souls of contra games lol
I like how different this game is to other games. the controls are actually precise and easy to control, the so the only thing hurting the player is their own reaction time and inabillity to recognize enemy patterns. Almost like an IQ test. You should give this game a try again, it is a perfect example of nintendo hard, and it does feel rewarding beating it. Although the last 2 levels are somewhat of a joke.
I didn't out much time into this one and such a shame. It could be so much better, like you said having tight controls but missing the bar on other elements.
Good review guys
Yeah everything is just kinda meh but the controls are decent. The game's difficulty really brings it down. I think if they just offered continues from the beginning..even if they were numbered, it would've been more balanced.
ah man weekendgameguy and michaelbthegamegenies.....those youtubers are legends. ahhh the 2010s youtube were my favorite times.
Two of my pals here on YT for a long time. So glad I could get them back for one more video.
I guess I never had a question in my mind how to pronounce Darius. I have to rethink my life now, dude. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT !!! =)
everything came together great in the end. Nice work Mike. I'm glad it's over haha
The nightmare has ended. Thanks for being part of it! :)
I forgot, what's that chip tune in the beginning when you get the package?
It's from Marvel VS Capcom 1, the character select screen :)
Easily top ten NES game for me. So much fun.
BARF not for me!
whoa whoa whoa WGG unretired the sweater.....:faints:.....mann i grew up watching him. mannnn good times.
Lmao at the hidden gem.... Although it is played out I still like hearing about hidden gems
I'll have to dig some up in the future for you. I've got several nobody has talked about or reviewed yet.
Me, my Dad, and my Dad's friend used to play the crap out of this game. Not because we enjoyed it so much, but because the ridiculous difficulty as you guys mentioned. I was never able to beat it. I haven't played it since then but I do have it in my collection. I remember ammo being a larger issue than you experience though, so I wonder what we were doing wrong back then.
Ammo is less of an issue if you're using the Amagon powers when you get them. You cannot finish this game without the Amagon powers. If you only try to run 'n gun your way through the game, you'll be quite frustrated with your lack of results.
I'm starting to wonder if maybe that's what it was. Of course I didn't have a manual or anything so might have not figured out the Amagon power... though I swear I did. Whatevs. Not a game I'm really planning on delving into again haha.
The POWER of friendship!
It makes things happen, for sure.
Dude you haven’t played this game....HAS RETURNED!!!!
....AND BETTER THAN EVER! (Always wanted to say that :p )
You’ve got quite the sense of humor, man! Glad to see you back, last time I saw one of your NES review vids I was still in high school....LOL.
It's not a terrible game. It has some of the best controller response of any NES game. That alone gets it 3.5 stars.
The B actually stands for Bolton. ;)
I KNEW IT
This game needs a remake.
Nah I disagree with this review whole heartedly, but agree with a lot of the arguments inside of it.
I'm a pretty big NES collector myself, and out of my vast collection this one is one of my hidden gems.
1. its a nintendo hard game. Practice makes perfect, I never needed emulation with save-states, I just kept at it. Honestly I had a harder time with ghost and goblins.
2. I agree with the continue system being lame. I can understand if they didn't want to allow continues until later on as sort of a reward for getting so far in the game, but forcing the player to play the previous world is a huge middle finger.
3. This actually adds on to #2. After I beat world 4 (the world where the continues start) the game gets drastically easier, I can practically just run through the remaining levels. Which makes the only world I even need to use continues on World 4...
4. I always used the megagon keys strategically. I only did it during the rocket turtle sequences in world 2, and end level bosses mostly. This allows me to gather more and more points for if I want to do an emergency megagon pop.
5. Now lets talk about the sudo "Super Mario Mechanics". To me this is one of the most important aspects of the game, that most people do not talk about or have not paid enough attention or played the game long enough to even be aware of. When you kill enemies in sequences over and over without missing, the point power ups get larger and larger and eventually max out to the "Crown" max point power ups and "Extra Life" power ups. Near the end of 1-2 is one of the best examples of this. If you can hit every enemy coming at you without missing you quickly rack up points and and extra lives like crazy. It actually adds a nice goal to work on which the game will reward you later one when you pop the megagon pop-up, or by allow you to live longer due to those extra lives. If anything it this aspect of the game makes up for the lack of continues in the first half.
Music: I have never minded the music in amagon, I know its not the best or memorable, but to me it still at least fits the intensity of the game.
Graphics: People need to realize that the purple is due to not wanting the character to match the green/brown backgrounds of the game. I think the graphics are fine, while maybe the developer could have worked a little harder to avoid using purple, it is not a game killer for me.
This game is definitely not deserving of Pat the NES "hack" Punk's rating of 1.5 stars in his Ultimate NES Guide book. At worst I would give it a 3.5. It is not a masterpiece by any means due to its "quirky" flaws, but remove these flaws and its a pretty solid "nintendohard" game.
I'm not trying to twist your words here, but you say the game is "Nintendo hard" but then admit the flaws of the difficulty and the continues which I mentioned artificially inflate the difficulty. You're correct that memorization is the key to victory (along with abusing the overpowered Megagon and 1-up farming. ) But similar to Ninja Gaiden III having artificially inflated difficulty with a lack of continues, it's fair to compare other Nintendo games difficulty to showcase the difference between fair and unfair.
My issue wasn't that they used purple in the graphics, it's that it bleeds into the blue backgrounds.
Ultimately, it's ok to agree to disagree about a game. If you think it's a hidden gem in the library, that's your call. There's lots of games I think are hidden gems that others don't, for sure.
Amagon truly is the derpiest of all game heroes out there. He'd be more of a joker than Dan Hibiki and he's already a joke to begin with.
He's a doof goof!
@@Dongled XD You got that right. Dan and any other joke character would kick his ass.
This is one of my favourite games. So what if it is cheesy. It's fun to play.
Thanks again Mike for bringing us together to review this awful awful game
Thanks for being part of it! Looks like our inside joke paid off haha
The thing about the game that gets me is just how awkward it is in its presentation. It's not quirky and charming. It's not imaginative and fun. It's bizarre, yet lifeless -- almost discomforting in its aesthetic. Why are the island creatures so bland? Why does the hero skyrocket to Earth as soon as you let go of the jump button? Why does his larger form punch at such odd angles? Why does a disembodied lion head grow a ram's head out of the back of it? Why are you barefoot?
All really good points...it's a completely unappetizing game.
Great review, maybe this game could have been something awesome if they ironed a few things out.
Hardest. Game. I. Ever. Beat.
Right?! Like stupidly hard with artificially inflated difficulty.
You guys are being way too hard on this game. If this game is that horrible then 75% of the games on nes were horrible. I grew up playing this game and it's a very average nes game for the time. You say it's too up beat and happy, that's the way most games of 8 bit era were. Games didn't start to get dark and violent till the 16 bit era. This game was hard and I was only able to beat it as a kid by using a game genie, so were most nes games. Between me and my friends, the only 2 nes games we ever beat as kids were mario 3 and believe it or not karate kid. This game was no harder than any other nes game. I could sit here all day and name nes games that are worse than amagon.
Sounds like you've got some hard opinions on video games! You should start your own channel!
Nicely done as always Mike! Amagon is such a terrible game. Ugh!
You can say that again!
"This game is the worst, but the controls are OK and the graphics are OK and the sound is really good in that one stage.
But it doesn't let you continue till you're mostly through with the game and it's really hard."
So what are you trying to say here?
I watched this video in the dentist's chair waiting to get numb. I disagree. I think the controls suck. Everything about Amagon is bad. And you can use your gun as a club when you run out of ammo.
Yeah I think I mention the fact that you can use your gun as a weapon when you run out of bullets. I mean,moving left and right isn't delayed, you can duck, everything is really responsive...I had way less of a problem with the controls, personally.
12:33 Demonitized
Believe it or not, it didn't get flagged. I even specifically selected certain things I thought would get flagged and it still got approved. I don't make enough views for them to care lol
;-) I try