I suspect when the F-4E phantom releases this month a lot of players will be flying it, so I'm excited to see if I'll be able to get my friends into larger flights like a 4 man flight instead of the usual "Only 2 of us are on, let's do a flight of 2". These communication videos are huge for helping learn how to keep the chaos of multiple people in a single group somewhat organized.
Outstanding series of videos, I do controlling in the real world so this has been great at visually explaining BVR tactics, techniques, and procedures to the DCS group I run with. Additionally breaking down the comms associated with sorting, targeting, and shot calls.
This is great. Could you also cover ATC / GCI comms as well, sometime? I have not been able to find really ... cohesive documentation on this (and likely others). Also, awesome video on Air Tasking Orders. Hits close to home : ) Always recommend your stuff to friends for learning
ATC and GCI are both really in depth. I have linked the TTP used by GCIs in the description. And I recommend checking out my Air Supremacy series to see how its used in practice. It's spread over several videos though so it'll take some time to get through.
Another great video! You really keep pushing these out. Keep it up! Some small criticism: In my experience most sim players have an idea of what targeting and sorting is but they dont have a clear understanding of the difference. So it would have been good to delineate visually that sorting is really only within the group and recollect what a group is.
Just started watching your videos. Wish I knew they were there a year ago. How did I mis you?... with all the videos I've seen. Your layman's way of explaining and content are invaluable. Great work.
communications has always been one of my weaknesses in air combat, hopefully thisll help me get a bit better at it. of course this also means ill have to train my wingmen to actually pay attention to more than just a fox code, but thatll come later.
Awesome video! I think it would be really cool if you teamed up with Reflected Simulations or Baltic Dragon to make a realistic training campaign that allows players to practice these concepts!
🌟I really appreciate your videos Mike @TheOpsCenterByMikeSolyom, especially around comms. I'm a civilian pilot and covering the military for decades and it still sounds like Klingon every once in a while. You've been a very helpful translator. I may even start playing DCS.
It's funny that you mention that. When I watch ATC videos I wonder how anyone understands that stuff. But I guess if you fly in and out of the same airport regularly you come to expect what's coming next.
@@TheOpsCenterByMikeSolyom Oh yea! Especially the landmarks, taxiways, fuel pit, etc. Surely it is Greek to visitors but with the electronic flight bag-type tools the kids have these days that can follow you even on the ground all of that has even become less difficult. The brevity PDF you've mentioned has been a big help for me on the mil side as well.
Groups are considered a single contact by default unless otherwise specified. So to answer your question: yes its the same. I'm planning on doing a dedicated video on the GROUP brevity code in the future to explain this in more detail.
I do a good amount of single player and no, the AI can be frustrating a lot. In BVR I've had occasions where one or two wingmen just won't engage the enemy. BVR is best done with human wingmen.
@@TheOpsCenterByMikeSolyom thanks, yeah I can't get them to do anything but follow me in formation then die :D Two: unable. Two: defending! Two: EJECTING!
So, do "targeted" and "sorted" express intent, or sensor lock, or both? For example: if my flight lead has assigned me to a contact, I can see that contact on datalink but I'm not able to get an FCR lock, would I still call "2 sorted"? What would be the correct call if I understand the directive and will take responsibility for the contact, but don't actually have them on sensors yet?
When I originally started work on this series the 2020 edition was the only one my viewers could access without a CAC. So I went with that for the graphic. However, I did find the 2023 is available through an official source today so I've linked that in the description. The definitions are exactly the same in both editions though so there shouldn't be any confusion.
@TheOpsCenterByMikeSolyom yeah I was just looking through it 2 days ago, but wasn't sure if there were any significant changes to any preexisting brevity. Just looks like it added in some new ones from what I saw
I suspect when the F-4E phantom releases this month a lot of players will be flying it, so I'm excited to see if I'll be able to get my friends into larger flights like a 4 man flight instead of the usual "Only 2 of us are on, let's do a flight of 2". These communication videos are huge for helping learn how to keep the chaos of multiple people in a single group somewhat organized.
Outstanding series of videos, I do controlling in the real world so this has been great at visually explaining BVR tactics, techniques, and procedures to the DCS group I run with. Additionally breaking down the comms associated with sorting, targeting, and shot calls.
This is great. Could you also cover ATC / GCI comms as well, sometime? I have not been able to find really ... cohesive documentation on this (and likely others).
Also, awesome video on Air Tasking Orders. Hits close to home : )
Always recommend your stuff to friends for learning
ATC and GCI are both really in depth. I have linked the TTP used by GCIs in the description. And I recommend checking out my Air Supremacy series to see how its used in practice. It's spread over several videos though so it'll take some time to get through.
Another great video! You really keep pushing these out. Keep it up! Some small criticism: In my experience most sim players have an idea of what targeting and sorting is but they dont have a clear understanding of the difference. So it would have been good to delineate visually that sorting is really only within the group and recollect what a group is.
Just started watching your videos. Wish I knew they were there a year ago. How did I mis you?... with all the videos I've seen. Your layman's way of explaining and content are invaluable. Great work.
Your videos are a very appreciated ressource thanks a lot !
Thanks as always. Very informative and easy to understand!
communications has always been one of my weaknesses in air combat, hopefully thisll help me get a bit better at it. of course this also means ill have to train my wingmen to actually pay attention to more than just a fox code, but thatll come later.
You are absolutely correct that it isn't easy. But it does get better with practice.
Great stuff, as always, thanks Mike
Fantastic content, very well explained - Subbed!
Awesome video! I think it would be really cool if you teamed up with Reflected Simulations or Baltic Dragon to make a realistic training campaign that allows players to practice these concepts!
🌟I really appreciate your videos Mike @TheOpsCenterByMikeSolyom, especially around comms. I'm a civilian pilot and covering the military for decades and it still sounds like Klingon every once in a while. You've been a very helpful translator. I may even start playing DCS.
It's funny that you mention that. When I watch ATC videos I wonder how anyone understands that stuff. But I guess if you fly in and out of the same airport regularly you come to expect what's coming next.
@@TheOpsCenterByMikeSolyom Oh yea! Especially the landmarks, taxiways, fuel pit, etc. Surely it is Greek to visitors but with the electronic flight bag-type tools the kids have these days that can follow you even on the ground all of that has even become less difficult. The brevity PDF you've mentioned has been a big help for me on the mil side as well.
Nice Soly! I wish my mudhen had datalink....or was even being updated atm :(
Thanks, dude. They should get that conflict sorted out and get back to updating. I'd like to see an update Strike Eagle too.
as usual, GREAT JOB
What is the good call to indicate enemy missile launch? Simply "missile launch", with maybe bullseye or other amplifying informations?
So for the fox codes, when you fire at a single hostile target what do you say, or does it stay like,"eagle1, fox3, west group"
Groups are considered a single contact by default unless otherwise specified. So to answer your question: yes its the same.
I'm planning on doing a dedicated video on the GROUP brevity code in the future to explain this in more detail.
@@TheOpsCenterByMikeSolyom Thank you!!
Great stuff as always! Do you play much single player and do you have any luck getting the AI wingman to attack what you want?
I do a good amount of single player and no, the AI can be frustrating a lot. In BVR I've had occasions where one or two wingmen just won't engage the enemy.
BVR is best done with human wingmen.
@@TheOpsCenterByMikeSolyom thanks, yeah I can't get them to do anything but follow me in formation then die :D Two: unable. Two: defending! Two: EJECTING!
Thanks you very mutch
So, do "targeted" and "sorted" express intent, or sensor lock, or both?
For example: if my flight lead has assigned me to a contact, I can see that contact on datalink but I'm not able to get an FCR lock, would I still call "2 sorted"? What would be the correct call if I understand the directive and will take responsibility for the contact, but don't actually have them on sensors yet?
If you pulled the brevity from that JP you showed, it's out of date. There's a 2023 edition
When I originally started work on this series the 2020 edition was the only one my viewers could access without a CAC. So I went with that for the graphic. However, I did find the 2023 is available through an official source today so I've linked that in the description.
The definitions are exactly the same in both editions though so there shouldn't be any confusion.
@TheOpsCenterByMikeSolyom yeah I was just looking through it 2 days ago, but wasn't sure if there were any significant changes to any preexisting brevity. Just looks like it added in some new ones from what I saw
They're not exactly going to radically alter the meaning of such extremely important, well established terminology after only a few years
What does this command mean (I hear it a lot...)? GET OUT OF YOUR PAAJAMAS AND GO LOOK FOR WORK TODAY!!
Great content yet again. Thanks Mike!