The first place prize winners are just on a different playing field. I feel that way for the previous competitions too. You can sense who is going to win before they announce it. Sure, second, third and beyond, I don't know who'll be in which place as they're all very good. But the first place winner is something special. And you can feel it.
Thanks for uploading this interesting documentary. This is essential footage for my research project at the University. Though this sometimes focus a little too much on the political situation at the time it offers a good backdrop for the competition.
Some talented people who didn't make the final round: David Kim (6th in 1986), Maria Bachmann (graduate of Curtis Institute), Enrico Pace (1st Prize at Liszt Competition), Frank Almond (now concertmaster in Milwaukee) ...
How would you think about the seriousity of this documentation, if you know that the titles of the music played have been noted all wrong? If you hear a pianist paying Scryabin and you see Rachmaninov written down?
Some people have accused Berezovsky (the winner) of speaking out, but I believe he is a victim of war. He was forced to speak out on the Russian side to get his daughter released. How is he doing now? I am very worried.
Does or did anybody notice that almost nobody of the musicians is able to smile while performing? What is music about? Is it like a funeral celebration? No smiles? No fun? No joy? Does this mean to have a chance to reach the final round?
lmao - 4:45 Scriabine Etude op 8 no 12 becomes Rachmaninoff Etude in D Major. Could be poorest film editing, or without a mic and cam, quantum fakebook n whatscrap spy 'security' is at an all time high... We'll draw 'em id's out with the details. 9:55 bong joon ho's double 43:15 - BorisBerezovsky played like a legend, gold winner of course
This is so unutterably vulgar. The Tchaik and Leeds and similar Competitions are signs of a sick, moribund culture. Music should not be about training performing monkeys for passive listeners gape at in awe - persons who practice obsessively the music of the past in order to give note-perfect renditions but who cannot create original music. In a healthy musical culture, as Glenn Gould (whom otherwise I disagree with and dislike) said, performance cannot be divorced from amateur participation and performance. The rot started with Beethoven but really took off with Liszt. A truly musical culture was like that in the 16-17th centuries when musical households had a chest of viols and would play consort music or would sing madrigals, or in 19th century Mittle-Europe wher families and friends would get together to play string quartets by Haydn or Mozart. This present sort of "music making" is a grotesque travesty fit for barbarians.
@@stephenarnold6359 if it wasnt for tchaikovsky we wouldnt have known about people such as cliburn, pletnev, krainev, trifonov etc. so no, i don’t think it is empty at all.
@@asalj4014 With respect, I think those pianists would have made their way without the Competition and their development might have been the better for it. Not many of the great pianists of the past would have been competition material - Serkin, Cortot, Moiseiwitch, Solomon, Fischer, for example would all have been found wanting.
@Obtuse Recluse Indeed, Schnabel is a good example. And Firkusny, Gould (not a personal favourite), Katchen, and many others. Is is ironic, but telling, that the chair of the jury at the current Leeds Competition, is someone who was not even placed when she was an entrant herself, even thought the fourth prize was not awarded that year, and when Brendel entered the Busoni Competition he was 4th with the first prize withheld because no competitor was thought worthy. Good pianists will generally make their way and great ones always will.
Thank you for this amazing uploads of Tchaikovsky competitions, I enjoyed very much, almost like being there!
Like it or not, Russia has a fascinating land and culture.
And Cliburn... he was ROMANTIC...
Thank you for uploading this wonderful video!
Boris Berezovsky, USSR 43:15
Surprised Bushkov didn’t win. His playing at 53 minutes is so soulful
This competition is unique ! The tchaikosky concert hall, the russian public : all is special to this particular competition.
Спасибо, так показана моя страна, наши люди, что я все узнаю, все верно!
The first place prize winners are just on a different playing field. I feel that way for the previous competitions too. You can sense who is going to win before they announce it. Sure, second, third and beyond, I don't know who'll be in which place as they're all very good. But the first place winner is something special. And you can feel it.
Thanks for uploading this interesting documentary. This is essential footage for my research project at the University. Though this sometimes focus a little too much on the political situation at the time it offers a good backdrop for the competition.
The first piece is Scriabin Etude in D# minor op. 8 No 12, not Rachmaninov. Also "Feux Follets" is in Bb Major, not B minor.
4:45 LOL sure
beautiful playing by Bushkov from 53 minutes in, Tchaikovsky Canzonetta
Some talented people who didn't make the final round: David Kim (6th in 1986), Maria Bachmann (graduate of Curtis Institute), Enrico Pace (1st Prize at Liszt Competition), Frank Almond (now concertmaster in Milwaukee) ...
David Kim is concertmaster in Philadelphia.
Maria Bachmann made the final round but didn't place
1:17:30, 1:20:28 what a stunning Rach 3 from Boris (he was only 21 at the time)!
How would you think about the seriousity of this documentation, if you know that the titles of the music played have been noted all wrong? If you hear a pianist paying Scryabin and you see Rachmaninov written down?
And Feux Follets being in B minor!
Vladimir Tarasov
Some people have accused Berezovsky (the winner) of speaking out, but I believe he is a victim of war.
He was forced to speak out on the Russian side to get his daughter released.
How is he doing now?
I am very worried.
23:45 so true!!!!!
Bravo Evgeny Bushkov!
Who's the older conductor without baton?
Semyon Kogan (1928- 2016)
Boris Berezovsky!!!!!
43:05
ბერეზოვსკიზე ბევრად საინტერესო პიანისტებიც არიან ლაშაა, ციმერმანს გირჩევ და ივო პოგორელიჩს, თუ რათქმაუნდა მოსმენილი გაქვს (y)
ჩემთვის ბეზეროვსკიც ძალიან საინტერესოა, ვირსალაძე ასწავლიდა და ეტყობა
Does or did anybody notice that almost nobody of the musicians is able to smile while performing? What is music about? Is it like a funeral celebration? No smiles? No fun? No joy? Does this mean to have a chance to reach the final round?
You don't have to smile to enjoy something. Do you smile through a good movie if it's not a comedy?
They are focused. Forced smiling may lead to mistakes
lmao - 4:45 Scriabine Etude op 8 no 12 becomes Rachmaninoff Etude in D Major. Could be poorest film editing, or without a mic and cam, quantum fakebook n whatscrap spy 'security' is at an all time high... We'll draw 'em id's out with the details. 9:55 bong joon ho's double 43:15 - BorisBerezovsky played like a legend, gold winner of course
This is so unutterably vulgar. The Tchaik and Leeds and similar Competitions are signs of a sick, moribund culture. Music should not be about training performing monkeys for passive listeners gape at in awe - persons who practice obsessively the music of the past in order to give note-perfect renditions but who cannot create original music. In a healthy musical culture, as Glenn Gould (whom otherwise I disagree with and dislike) said, performance cannot be divorced from amateur participation and performance. The rot started with Beethoven but really took off with Liszt. A truly musical culture was like that in the 16-17th centuries when musical households had a chest of viols and would play consort music or would sing madrigals, or in 19th century Mittle-Europe wher families and friends would get together to play string quartets by Haydn or Mozart. This present sort of "music making" is a grotesque travesty fit for barbarians.
Are you gonna keep commenting this like anyone cares
@@asalj4014 Yup! If just one person realises the fatuous emptiness of the Tchaik Comp it will have been worth it :-)
@@stephenarnold6359 if it wasnt for tchaikovsky we wouldnt have known about people such as cliburn, pletnev, krainev, trifonov etc. so no, i don’t think it is empty at all.
@@asalj4014 With respect, I think those pianists would have made their way without the Competition and their development might have been the better for it. Not many of the great pianists of the past would have been competition material - Serkin, Cortot, Moiseiwitch, Solomon, Fischer, for example would all have been found wanting.
@Obtuse Recluse Indeed, Schnabel is a good example. And Firkusny, Gould (not a personal favourite), Katchen, and many others. Is is ironic, but telling, that the chair of the jury at the current Leeds Competition, is someone who was not even placed when she was an entrant herself, even thought the fourth prize was not awarded that year, and when Brendel entered the Busoni Competition he was 4th with the first prize withheld because no competitor was thought worthy. Good pianists will generally make their way and great ones always will.