Sony!, the Spiderverse franchise is your only Marvel goldmine. It's time to let all the other Spiderman properties go back to Disney/Marvel. You guys are beating a very dead horse.
They will sell the rights but Disney won’t pay market value. And Sony has to make these movies otherwise the rights expire and go back to Marvel which is owned by Disney for free.😂😂
@@Sam19509 we’ll wait & see how it goes because as part of the deal Marvel has with other companies is that if a movie flopped at the box office, the rights will revert back to Marvel. Sony can sell the rest of the characters like Venom, Morbius, Madame Web back to Marvel, except Spider-Man because every single film that “he” has under Sony has grossed over $700 million, even the bad ones.
idk why they thought a kraven movie without spiderman would be a good idea. Venom i understand but Kraven is like a c list Spiderman villain who only works with Spiderman
It would have worked fine with a good script, competent directing and good acting. I mean, the first Joker doesn't really have Batman in it and it was a big hit. But Sony is Sony, heh.
Just when I thought Sony nailed the last nail in the coffin for Kraven with the film not having any form of Spider-Man and no credit scenes, now this? The writing for Kraven's has been on the wall since day one.
@@magmell05 so? most of spider-man's villains are interesting enough to have their own movies, a damn site more than spider-man. also, have you ever heard of the venom franchise? by the time he got his own movie it was way overdue. people had been clamoring for it for years and years.
@@plasticweapon Venom's a grey area. The first one was mostly terrible but made over 800 million, the second one was an improvement and made over 500 million (during the COVID pandemic), and the last one had up and downs and made 470 million. Venom's quality on the big screen has decreased due to not being connected to Spider-Man. Morbius sucked because it contains the vibes of a 2000 superhero flick, Madam Web was god-awful for Sony just creating things out of thin air and backfire, and Kraven will underperform. The numbers don't lie. The only way for a villain film to succeed is to have a good script and have the villain not feel like a villain but a person who suffered from varying scenarios that led him/her/them down the path of a villain. Sony clearly showed that they're not capable of doing that.
I live in Nicaragua they're still promoting it in this country but they're not allowing you to buy tickets so everything he's saying is true because you were allowed to buy tickets before movies come out right now they're not letting me Sony cannot find a break
@@lukebayle4136 I wasn’t going to pass on this, just thought the promos looked good. I’m glad I didn’t waste hours of my life on Morbius or Madame Webb.
As a theater owner you have to make a call: 1. Allow the failed SSU to hog screens and bring is low box office. Or 2. Allow 2 money making films (Moana/Wicked) to have as many screens as possible.
You might be waiting a while since it's not a Marvel Studios movie and Sony doesn't have an exclusivity arrangement or give priority to show their movies with Disney+
@@raeilltasticinkburke9111 - *FALSE!* The Rights only "revert" back if Sony doesn't make a movie in a certain amount of time. As long as they decide to keep making Spiderman movies they'll keep the rights. "The contracts are public record". 🤷🏽♂️ 🤣🤣👏🏽
@@raeilltasticinkburke9111 - Sony Studios/Pictures may go "under" but Sony as a whole is not even close to going under. Before they even considered shutting down/bankrupting the Studios they would sell off all assets. This would mean that Disney/Marvel would have to pay for the Rights to Spiderman, which I have no problem with. Sony will never let the Rights "revert" back, they're gonna get their pound of flesh, which is fair.
Guess you are gullible to believe the crap this RUclipsr post. It was scheduled to be in around 3,000 theaters. The stories about its theater count only mentions how it’s about 1,000 or so less than most recent Sony comic movies. Not that they decided to reduce the number at the last minute..
Yeah joker really did go to streaming like 2 weeks after release, so did madam web I believe. And it’s sad because I love ATJ but man they are gonna have to recover hard
If only they listened to us spider-man fandom instead of making a villain verse they could had done a live action spider verse but no instead they wanted to do a sinister six universe and copy the mcu sony failed themselves
@@danielwitz35no, that's the only successful thing they've done in decades so they're not giving up on the Spiderverse movies. This will just be the end of these dumb villain movies as they work on Spider-man 4, Spiderverse 3 and Spider-man Noir next year.
I’m literally done with Sony pictures Live action… it complete BS ; Disney is better place for Spider-man he belongs to his work friends and not live like a Lone Ranger
lol a Kraven movie without Spiderman and being released next to Juggernauts like Wicked and Moana and next week Freaking Sonic and Mufasa was such a genius move by the smart people at SOny
I'm betting on KRAVEN because it looks better TO ME than all of those other movies named. WICKED you're joking right, I wouldn't spend a penny to see that movie. Kraven looks fantastic and I can't wait to see it!
I think the theater execs who pulled the movie were just JELIOUS cuz the main character is SOOOOOOO freaking HOT. I"m going to watch this movie simply for the EYE CANDY... like hello!!! If the execs were smart they would be betting on EYE CANDY!!!! Their loss.
It is so weird to do spider-man-related movies without spider-man :/ The trailer for Kraven looked pretty good, I'm sad for all the people who worked on the movie.
I actually looking forward to this film, I saw the 9 min clip & was oh yeah I wanna check this one out in the theaters. SONY need to stick to the romance & let Marvel & DC do the superhero movies.
I have no idea who Kraven is or care about his comic story. Just solely bases on the action trailers I really want to see this. it looks really fun. Like Rambo on steroids. I'm in.
All i know is Jurassic Park Dominion showed us the first few minutes of the movie, and that movie was universally viewed as bad. History repeats itself pretty quick these days
After releasing beyond the spiderverse,sony should just give the rights back to marvel/disney,who wants to see a spiderman villain movie without spiderman?
Sony… Why didn’t you keep Kraven in August? Now this movie has an even bigger uphill battle than it would’ve faced if it released in August I remember Sony saying we are confident in Kraven and we put it in December because we suspect families will go see it. WRONG…. No one’s gonna go see Kraven once Sonic hits and Mufasa You should’ve kept it in August where there was literally no competition This movie might hit digital by February. That’s my prediction depending on box office, but even if this movie does OK I still think it will hit digital by February.
my guy, this film hasnt released (and is NOT written by morbius writers like madame web) and yet yall are already shitting on it? damn bro where's the respect yall 😭
wow that means you're just simply hating on the movie just because its connected to madame web & morbius. you're actually stupid. if theres no spider man, at least dont expect it. just because there is no spider man doesnt mean it aint a bad film. you guys are really a toxic fanbase
im personally just tired of people from either the marvel or dc fanbase pressuring studios or anything to make what they want, because i feel like yall are really gonna make things worse for both companies. just calm tf down 😭😭😭
You mean the decision that was made from the get go? It was going to be in 3,000 or so theaters. They didn’t just decide to drop it from 1,000 others. This RUclipsr like to bait the gullible people.
It will be online streaming before Xmas gets here! But I guess us Canadians n Mexicans will get to see in theatres! He did say The States! If he’s talking about North America then he DID’T include Canada n Mexico!
I told someone I was going to see Kraven the Hunter this weekend and he was like "What is that?" it turns out he never heard of it and he's a Spiderman fan.
Maybe many of these cases may be multiple theatres in the same cineplex - so a given cineplex may still be playing this film, but not on as many screens? IMO I'd actually prefer to have more different choices in any given cinema, with the bigger moneymakers maybe playing for more weeks, rather than tying up more screens at once, which sometimes happens - this is just speculation, tho
Sounds like the theaters aren't Kraven this one.
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@@MarkFuriniArt Baddum tizz 🥁
Underrated comment lol
“Laugh track plays”
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Sony!, the Spiderverse franchise is your only Marvel goldmine. It's time to let all the other Spiderman properties go back to Disney/Marvel. You guys are beating a very dead horse.
They will sell the rights but Disney won’t pay market value. And Sony has to make these movies otherwise the rights expire and go back to Marvel which is owned by Disney for free.😂😂
@@Sam19509 we’ll wait & see how it goes because as part of the deal Marvel has with other companies is that if a movie flopped at the box office, the rights will revert back to Marvel. Sony can sell the rest of the characters like Venom, Morbius, Madame Web back to Marvel, except Spider-Man because every single film that “he” has under Sony has grossed over $700 million, even the bad ones.
Yes but, to be fair, if they keep making crap, Marvel CAN sue them for diminishing their market value by making obvious crap @@Sam19509
you cant even watch spiderman 3 a 3 year old movie on Disney plus Sony got almost 2 billion box office wtf
not that we can trust disney very much either
That explains why my movie theater canceled my ticket online 😑
Sony REALLY should have stuck with that August release date. Completely moronic of them to put it out at Christmas, against all those blockbusters.
"Let's fight somewhere empty."
The theaters for Kraven the Hunter: 👊 💥👊💥🤛💥🤜💥
omfg lol
It's honestly a miracle Sony hasn't died, for years they have been in the red, how are they still alive 😂
Because of the spider Man & spider verse films its not rocket science
It's still sony they are worth a shit ton of money
Sony Pictures is in the Red, Sony Entertainment is doing good from PS5 sales.
At this point, Sony Entertainment might shut down or sell Sony Pictures.
@BaithNa false sony pictures isn't going bankrupt they aren't doing amazing but they still have a substantial amount even in the movie division
Funny when low IQ people say things like this
It will be on digital before Christmas.
idk why they thought a kraven movie without spiderman would be a good idea. Venom i understand but Kraven is like a c list Spiderman villain who only works with Spiderman
@@ironwez20and he barely even works with Spider-man. Most of his publication history has been a background goon for the Sinister Six or he was dead.
@@BaithNa Kraven's Last Hunt is one of the greatest Spider-Man stories ever told.
😅😅😅😅😅😅
Dude I totally want to watch this.
*Actually, no I don't.. It looks awful.*
@LunarTikOfficial nobody asked you if you did dude
@@art23428 *Cry more, toggaF* 🤣
@@LunarTikOfficial im with you. This movie look so trash bruh 😭😂 like who asked for this movie is the real question.
Sony: hey fellow executives, let’s make Spider-Man movies without Spider-Man!
Fellow executives: great idea! Why didn’t we think of that!
Movies about spiderman villians without spiderman in them are TIGHT!
It would have worked fine with a good script, competent directing and good acting. I mean, the first Joker doesn't really have Batman in it and it was a big hit.
But Sony is Sony, heh.
For life of me, I can’t understand why sony wont put spidey in these crazy spideyverse films? 🤷🏻♂️ they own the rights to spidey so WTH? 🤔
because of the sinister six movie 🤷
Because they'd have to work/spend more money with Marvel (because the multi billion dollar company can't afford it)
Just when I thought Sony nailed the last nail in the coffin for Kraven with the film not having any form of Spider-Man and no credit scenes, now this? The writing for Kraven's has been on the wall since day one.
why does it have to have spider-man?
@@plasticweapon Because they're Spider-Man villains and secondary characters.
@@magmell05 so? most of spider-man's villains are interesting enough to have their own movies, a damn site more than spider-man.
also, have you ever heard of the venom franchise? by the time he got his own movie it was way overdue. people had been clamoring for it for years and years.
@@plasticweapon Venom's a grey area. The first one was mostly terrible but made over 800 million, the second one was an improvement and made over 500 million (during the COVID pandemic), and the last one had up and downs and made 470 million. Venom's quality on the big screen has decreased due to not being connected to Spider-Man. Morbius sucked because it contains the vibes of a 2000 superhero flick, Madam Web was god-awful for Sony just creating things out of thin air and backfire, and Kraven will underperform. The numbers don't lie. The only way for a villain film to succeed is to have a good script and have the villain not feel like a villain but a person who suffered from varying scenarios that led him/her/them down the path of a villain. Sony clearly showed that they're not capable of doing that.
I live in Nicaragua they're still promoting it in this country but they're not allowing you to buy tickets so everything he's saying is true because you were allowed to buy tickets before movies come out right now they're not letting me Sony cannot find a break
That’s such bullshit this movie looks better than most movies this year
& it’s actually rated R like the Venom & Morbius movies should have been!
@ I know it’s rated r that’s one of the main reason I’m excited for it
@@lukebayle4136 I wasn’t going to pass on this, just thought the promos looked good. I’m glad I didn’t waste hours of my life on Morbius or Madame Webb.
Yall joking right? 😭😂😭😂😭
@@vonmcknightjoking about what
I’m a huge Spider-Man comics fan . I’m guessing this is another spider-Man villain that’s not gonna be in a Spider-Man film .
As a theater owner you have to make a call:
1. Allow the failed SSU to hog screens and bring is low box office.
Or
2. Allow 2 money making films (Moana/Wicked) to have as many screens as possible.
Madame Web was such a missed opportunity to showcase the spider-girls.
When I hear a Spider-Man movie without Spider-Man is doing bad it feels me with joy
When I hear Sony refusing to sell the Spiderman rights back to Marvel it fills me with even More joy.😂
@@MorpheusASmith Sony better go bankrupt
Sony really needs a wake up call
Me too my friend. Me too.
screw spider-man.
They better not ruined the spider verse movies
I think it’s best for Disney to be in charge of marvel despite of their failures , but at least Disney make better marvel movies than Sony
Sony should try their experiments exclusively on streaming.😂😂
This is so streaming material
I will never go see 'Moana 2', or 'Wicked', but I applaud theater owners for rejecting another entry in Sony's Spider-Man Less Cinematic Universe.
Beyond the Spiderverse is Sony’s last chance do right by Spidey fans.
Damn , that sucks especially if the movie turns out better then both of those films as I feel like it might but we’ll see.
Wow, this is sad even by Sony's standards.
Not surprised, Sony back at it again. That's how bad this is. Atp Sony is becoming a meme
Didn't see that coming
So Kraven The Hunter is pulled from the theater, I mean how good or bad was it?
It's worse than madame web
@@Scifi4life aw man, that’s exactly how Sony does not know what to do with their Marvel characters and they need to give up the SpiderMan rights back.
@johnsanchez3534 I'm half way joking. I'm not sure if its quite that bad.
@@Scifi4life I doubt it's worse than that movie.
It's so bad that the release date is in three days with no reviews. People have seen Nosferatu three weeks before it opens.
Who ever asked for a kraven movie? He is even niche in the comics.
Release it on digital, make more money
Too late
Looks like this is gonna be a Disney+ movie for me
Netflix gets it first
You might be waiting a while since it's not a Marvel Studios movie and Sony doesn't have an exclusivity arrangement or give priority to show their movies with Disney+
@ yea they did, they made a streaming deal back in 2021 with Netflix and Disney+
Kraven digital.
They should just drop it on all streamers.
All of these characters need to be under the "care" of Marvel/Disney. Sony should basically rent out the IP at this point.
Sony is stupid to make Kraven the hunter. Kraven is a villian. I wouldn't be surprised Sony will end up making Kraven into a hero.
Hawaii is not outside the U.S.
I guess 😂I'll watch on digital early huh
Just wait till it's on Netflix in 3 weeks
@@Scifi4lifeor Tubi
YESSSS, I am begging for the rug to be pulled from under Sony. Let us end this madness
Then Marvel won't be able to use Spiderman 😂😂😂
@@MorpheusASmith, false. The rights reverts back to Marvel if Sony fails. The contracts are public record 😂
@@raeilltasticinkburke9111 - *FALSE!* The Rights only "revert" back if Sony doesn't make a movie in a certain amount of time. As long as they decide to keep making Spiderman movies they'll keep the rights. "The contracts are public record". 🤷🏽♂️
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@ , and how exactly would they achieve this (making new films) if they went under?! 😂
@@raeilltasticinkburke9111 - Sony Studios/Pictures may go "under" but Sony as a whole is not even close to going under. Before they even considered shutting down/bankrupting the Studios they would sell off all assets. This would mean that Disney/Marvel would have to pay for the Rights to Spiderman, which I have no problem with. Sony will never let the Rights "revert" back, they're gonna get their pound of flesh, which is fair.
ngl i loved the 8 minute preview, and the trailers were solid. im watching opening week for sure
Guess the theaters aren't "Kraven' more" Kraven.
Guess you are gullible to believe the crap this RUclipsr post. It was scheduled to be in around 3,000 theaters. The stories about its theater count only mentions how it’s about 1,000 or so less than most recent Sony comic movies. Not that they decided to reduce the number at the last minute..
This film looks to be a good one. I liked Kraven in the comics and the actors in this film are first class.
Won’t be shocked if kraven goes to digital the same month of release like joker flop a doo 😂😂
Yeah joker really did go to streaming like 2 weeks after release, so did madam web I believe. And it’s sad because I love ATJ but man they are gonna have to recover hard
If only they listened to us spider-man fandom instead of making a villain verse they could had done a live action spider verse but no instead they wanted to do a sinister six universe and copy the mcu sony failed themselves
Kind of destroys a chance for animated sequel of Spider-Man: Beyond the Spider-Verse with Sony falling apart with awful universe flopping.
@@danielwitz35no, that's the only successful thing they've done in decades so they're not giving up on the Spiderverse movies. This will just be the end of these dumb villain movies as they work on Spider-man 4, Spiderverse 3 and Spider-man Noir next year.
If this doesnt teach Sony a lesson, NOTHING WILL
I guess the movie theaters just gave up on Sony’s Marvel Universe 😂😂
I’m literally done with Sony pictures Live action… it complete BS ; Disney is better place for Spider-man he belongs to his work friends and not live like a Lone Ranger
I wasn't going to see it anyway
No one is
I was actually looking forward to this film before I saw the first eight minutes. If it was that inspired, they should have kept it under wraps.
We all know it’s gonna bomb!🤣
"It's Kraven time!" Oh,wait;well,to the power of minus 1,000.
Yes, I'm going to see Kraven opening weekend if I can find a theater that is showing it.
lol a Kraven movie without Spiderman and being released next to Juggernauts like Wicked and Moana and next week Freaking Sonic and Mufasa was such a genius move by the smart people at SOny
Yep I agree such a good film and strategy lol
😂 sony marvel is a joke
00:43 my man..I don't think anyone is confused about Hawaii and Alaska being considered part of the United States..
That What Disney Need To Do With Snow White Live Action Take It Out Of Theaters That Save You Money And Time That All I'm Saying 🙏🏾
i agree
I'm betting on KRAVEN because it looks better TO ME than all of those other movies named.
WICKED you're joking right, I wouldn't spend a penny to see that movie. Kraven looks fantastic and I can't wait to see it!
Should have just went on streaming service as Sonic the hedgehog 3 would have just blow it all up completely.
I think the theater execs who pulled the movie were just JELIOUS cuz the main character is SOOOOOOO freaking HOT. I"m going to watch this movie simply for the EYE CANDY... like hello!!! If the execs were smart they would be betting on EYE CANDY!!!! Their loss.
Ouch! But it might be better than its Spidermanless predecessors. (Not a high bar to beat, of course.)
Morbius
Madam Web
Kraven
Who asked for these films?
Gawdammit Sony! 🤦🏽♂️😂🤦🏽♂️😂
It is so weird to do spider-man-related movies without spider-man :/ The trailer for Kraven looked pretty good, I'm sad for all the people who worked on the movie.
Im not surprised. The opening 8 minutes was ok. It did not grab me or make me want to see the film. I have no confidence in Sony comic book movie.
I actually looking forward to this film, I saw the 9 min clip & was oh yeah I wanna check this one out in the theaters. SONY need to stick to the romance & let Marvel & DC do the superhero movies.
I already got my tickets for Kraven the Hunter for Thursday and Friday
who gets confused?? Hawaii and Alaska ARE the U.S. when people want to say mainland only they say "the Continental US"
It matters not. Those who want to watch it, will do so anyways. I've been looking forward to this one for quite some time now.
I have no idea who Kraven is or care about his comic story. Just solely bases on the action trailers I really want to see this. it looks really fun. Like Rambo on steroids. I'm in.
All i know is Jurassic Park Dominion showed us the first few minutes of the movie, and that movie was universally viewed as bad.
History repeats itself pretty quick these days
The theater in my city is only playing kraven at 330 and 630 and after the weekend its only being played at 330 lmao
It’s hurting Sony cause they are not including spider man in either movie , if spider man was in the movies , different story
He looks too young to play Kraven.
😂😂😂😂
Sony just doesn’t get it.
Sony is incapable of handling Spider-Man or anything related.
"Oh no...anyway"
After releasing beyond the spiderverse,sony should just give the rights back to marvel/disney,who wants to see a spiderman villain movie without spiderman?
Not to mention a lord of the rings film comes out the same day as Kraven,
Sony…
Why didn’t you keep Kraven in August?
Now this movie has an even bigger uphill battle than it would’ve faced if it released in August
I remember Sony saying we are confident in Kraven and we put it in December because we suspect families will go see it. WRONG…. No one’s gonna go see Kraven once Sonic hits and Mufasa
You should’ve kept it in August where there was literally no competition
This movie might hit digital by February. That’s my prediction depending on box office, but even if this movie does OK I still think it will hit digital by February.
Lesson: Sony only knows how to make CAMERA 😂
Straight to streaming on Amazon or Netflix or Hulu
So...who didn't see this one coming.
It's not Sony pulling it it's the cinemas preferring to show sure money makers like Moana 2
Morpheus? 🤔 🤣
my guy, this film hasnt released (and is NOT written by morbius writers like madame web) and yet yall are already shitting on it? damn bro where's the respect yall 😭
Spider-man movies without Spider-man lost any respect after Madame Web. Now they all have to burn.
It's Sony....they lost respect a LONG time before this.
wow that means you're just simply hating on the movie just because its connected to madame web & morbius. you're actually stupid. if theres no spider man, at least dont expect it. just because there is no spider man doesnt mean it aint a bad film.
you guys are really a toxic fanbase
im gonna be laughing so hard at yall when the movie ends up with positive reviews
im personally just tired of people from either the marvel or dc fanbase pressuring studios or anything to make what they want, because i feel like yall are really gonna make things worse for both companies. just calm tf down 😭😭😭
kraven's is down for the count!
Yes true- unfortunately it’s only showing on a regular screen near me as well 🤦🏻♂️
I feel like this is a sign we need to stop investing our time and money in fictional films
sony should be taught tough lessons so that they style up or shipout ,were done with them
Never could imagine a movie doing justice to Kraven and no Spiderman, pointless.
The theaters are making the right decisions.
You mean the decision that was made from the get go? It was going to be in 3,000 or so theaters. They didn’t just decide to drop it from 1,000 others. This RUclipsr like to bait the gullible people.
The easy fix would have been to just add spiderman
It will be online streaming before Xmas gets here! But I guess us Canadians n Mexicans will get to see in theatres! He did say The States! If he’s talking about North America then he DID’T include Canada n Mexico!
I told someone I was going to see Kraven the Hunter this weekend and he was like "What is that?" it turns out he never heard of it and he's a Spiderman fan.
That’s one of his top villains though.
Whoever you were talking to is most definitely not a Spiderman fan.
It will get plenty of views on streaming networks when it's released. It will be fine.
Maybe many of these cases may be multiple theatres in the same cineplex - so a given cineplex may still be playing this film, but not on as many screens? IMO I'd actually prefer to have more different choices in any given cinema, with the bigger moneymakers maybe playing for more weeks, rather than tying up more screens at once, which sometimes happens - this is just speculation, tho
Who thought Kraven was a good idea?? Is anyone that makes these movies actually a comic book fan?
The hunter has become the hunted
just put the rights in disney/marvel's bag, bro
Why would people be confused when Hawaii and Alaska is America 😂
This movie can not catch a break
Good!
I highly doubt that clickbait no articles have said anything online 😂
I mean dam the movie is not even out yet give it a chance I’ve seen movies bad reviewed then I watched it and liked it smh this is crazy