Kody said "If I don't love a woman, that's her fault, blame her. If I love a woman, that's her fault, blame her. " Following his own logic, can we say if his ex wives and children don't love him, that's his fault, blame him? I want to hear him try to explain why it's not the same.
Actually, you can’t because he’s very clear on who’s responsibility it is and it’s women’s. He’s not a woman so it can’t be his responsibility. He also has the same logic of a rapist, which I feel we should all file away and keep in mind
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Kody's conversation with Meri was very disturbing. It's like a stalker saying that the object of his stalking is at fault for being stalked because she's so irresistible or it's a murder victim's fault because she provoked the killer by being in the wrong place at the wrong time. He does not take any responsibility for anything.
The entire conversation was bizarre and Kody continues to act as if the steroids and the botox and the exagerated facial expressions (maybe tied to his golden hair extensions) have made him a weird, manic, panting mess. Not even remotely the same guy we saw in the first few seasons. It's just awful. Robyn and the show have turned him into some kind of maniac.
Imagine being married to crazy KB for 20 some years in a loveless marriage with no PDA. Then you get the heck out of Dodge, get your feet on the ground, and meet an affectionate gentleman that you’re compatible with. The PDA and verbal compliments of each other are so refreshing and life building. Like a breath of fresh air. So nah, no looking back and no regrets. Christine found her Prince Charming after have been “married” to the devil. She and David deserve a happy life together.
And... it's not a one way street. Look at David's situation, wife dies leaving him to raise all those kids and a bunch of dumb dates throughout the prime of his life. I've been there and done that and I have been thrilled that they found each other. It's like they've got a second chance to do it all again and are still young enough to enjoy it! Kids are always hesitant at first, this is so new, but I know from experience that if they're treated with respect and patience they'll come around. But I do think the lap dance at the wedding was way too much. Hoping Christine doesn't just flaunt it all in front of her kids. Just respect them. Her conversations with them are good. But did anyone else notice Truly during that convo? She's a bit of a mess.
I think another reason Kody was terrified of losing Meri, is that she's been around the longest and knows where ALL the bodies are buried. I'm sure she has knowledge of every scam and crime he's been involved in.
Does no one else think that Kody's repeated nasty remarks to Meri about never loving her, that he married the wrong person, that she should have left long ago, etc., aren't simply meant to keep her psychologically beaten down? These kind of remarks can be devastating to someone's self-esteem and self-worth, and I personally think this is what his goal is in making them. He was always emotionally and mentally abusive to Meri, and this is no different. It's a sick game! I think this type of rhetoric is also a way of distancing himself from taking any sort of accountability for his marriages, making it all their fault that he didn't love them. I really wish that Meri wouldn't subject herself to any further contact with this abusive creep!!
Kody’s treatment of Meri has kept her beaten down and also kept her trying to make their relationship work. I think he continues to do it so that the public won’t blame him. He can’t be accountable for anything. This is typical behavior of a narcissist.
Well, welcome to the conversation you should be aware, though that Cody has been emotionally and mentally abusing all of his wives and children since the very beginning He lost control because over the years the public got their opinion to the wives , and it showing the wives that they’re worth more than what Cody always convinced and they were. The emotional and mental abuse were actually clear from episode one
I met my husband over a long weekend, spoke on the phone for a month and I came to his state to visit for a week………and never left. It’s now 33 wonderful years later and we are still deeply in love. I was 40, not 50 but my daughter was in college and I was able to do things for just me. I guess my point is……..sometimes you just KNOW, and we both knew we were the right one and perhaps Christine is right, David is THE one.
All but one of Christine's children are adult. Doesn't mean they don't struggle.. but does mean they are older and more able to discuss process and understand. Christine is pretty good at letting her kids talk and accepting their commentary and feelings as well.
Both of my marriages were/are to Marines, long distance and short engagements. Widowed with #1 after ten years but going on 22 with #2 and we are still so happy. Only like one "fight" that I can ever think of, we just cherish each other. When you find JOY....well, that's the best way of putting it. It should be joy. That's your sign.
I can't imagine anything more soul-crushing than hearing the man you've been married to for almost 30 years say that he never loved you and regrets marrying you. I’m sure it's equally devastating to learn that your mother wasted so many lonely years on your heartless, selfish father.
I had that happen to me and it is devastating! Everything you thought you had with your partner is sudden wiped away. You begin to question everything. I think that is so much worse than being told you aren’t loved anymore. It negates the years you had together.
@@ShirleyWaldeckmetiswoman I wouldn’t say nasty. She was the disciplinarian. The children had no one else to discipline them. Kody was absent. Janelle just worked. Christine was overwhelmed. Some children actually liked her but they are not that vocal.
Shirley, I completely agree. While I've never been a fan of Meri, I do feel for Christine and Meri being humiliated on national TV by Cody and Robyn. The mental abuse they experienced from Cody for many decades probably changed them in many negative ways. Janelle is the rebel in the family, she doesn't need any sorry-ass man to validate her worth.
His thinking is very chaotic and is getting increasingly scary. Meri should not have been subjected to that whole scene.At one point,she looked directly at the crew and stated she didn't know it was going to be a " fight".In the end,Meri handled it well but I hooe TLC begin to get alof more careful with what they film with him. Giving him this platform and the information to comment on,is just feedling an increasingly out of control, bush fire.
I love that she was ready to shut the whole thing down if he kept going in that direction. She won’t just sit there and take it because the producers told her that’s what was planned for filming today.
@@j.johnson7296 I think Kody made himself crystal clear. He would reel her back in if he could, just so he can abuse her some more. What a horrible man he is.
TLC has an abysmal track record of watching people be abused right in front of them and rolling the cameras anyways to hype up the drama. We've seen how they don't even take accountability for failure to screen people on those reality dating shows that have criminal histories.
I’m convinced this dude is saying all these ridiculous things to keep us watching and talking about him. Because if he really believes the crap that comes out of his mouth he is seriously mentally ill and needs to be in a Psych ward
He is a narcissist and fully believes what he says. Narcissists are not good candidates for mental counseling because they don't think they have done anything wrong.
He is clearly living with Bipolar disorder. This is what mania looks like and unmedicated Bipolar. I'm sad that no one and his family can see this and tried to get him help.
I’m not so certain that he’s not abusing anabolic steroids, the aggression and hostility somewhat exacerbates what he’s displaying here, coupled w Etoh, who knows what’s going on w/in his body right now. He might be toxic in more ways than one.
I think he’s a narcissist with ADHD. The ADHD accounts for why stupid things fly out of his mouth, there are no “brakes” to slow his thinking down and evaluate if they should be said or not.
Kody is not afraid of what Meri might say. Kody is afraid of what Robyn thinks of him. Kody is afraid of what the manosphere thinks of him. He is afraid of what his male friends think of him. He is afraid of what the men in the AUB think of him. Kody is not afraid of what Meri, Christine or Janelle think of him. He is not afraid of what his kids think of him. He is not afraid of what the audience thinks of him either.
He's ONLY afraid of being poor. He says. Looks like he's just bought another mansion though, so I guess he's been doing ok for himself. We likely helped that one along.
I never thought about Kody in that light. I just kept saying, "assho*e." and leaving it at that. He'd totally trade her feelings about herself, her ability to find happiness, her ability to chase her OWN dreams, for the POSSIBILITY he could someday get another woman,.and the church would ok it. What a selfish, evil sob. He is absolutely beneath contempt.
I asked my therapist who I found after being in a relationship about 3 years that I do not know if it is love or anxiety. I was blessed to finally found a good therapist who is good for what I need, and I realised it may not be love 100%. I googled and found articles on this. We have to be really careful with confusing anxiety based in trauma, not even about loneliness, but confusing the feeling of anxiety which comes from how this person treats you (trigger :( ) and the so-called butterflies of love.
I've been waiting for this - these psychological insights are my favourite, as I really appreciate your considered and informative comments on this show. Please keep them coming 👏
I’m glad the kids are finally seeing an example of a healthy relationship. This might feel weird at first. They’re used to no love and yelling. I hope they copy Christine’s example at some point
I swear that's the reason Janelle met with Kody at Salsa Brava after their fight. I wouldn't want him back to the house after that argument. Public spaces only and then he'll sort of behave himself. And just a side comment, Meri should never have had that conversation with Kody. Especially in her home. Kody's verbal cruelty is escalating and these OG3 women and their kids need to protect their mental health and quit having conversations with Kody for content.
Thank you for your insight… She never had what she really, really desperately wanted. She is finding it in this relationship!! I am so for it!!! ExMo here. I got married when I was a week into my 21st year. I am still married to the same man… 40yrs this January. We have both left the main stream LDS church. Still have family, friends in. TBM (true believing Mormon) I hold them in high regard! Smart, kind individuals. It makes me sad that never-mo’s like to weigh in on how it all is. but, I am totally embarrassed by the FLDS religion. Like it or not, they are part of the mainstream core religion.
David!!! This was awesome. I’m sure you hit on the answer with Kody. He’s so over-the-top with his ideas and his antics. I’m thinking it’s more than just narcissism. Sociopath?
I don't understand why Kody goes on about being "given" (ewww) more wives when he says he doesn't believe the church dogma anymore. The cult will have heard him apostatize, so why would they toss more women to him? His brain is too scrambled to figure out that apostacy already disqualifies him? Kody could purse non-religious polygamy. If we agree with Barnum that a sucker is born every minute, Kody has the name-recognition ability to attract random women to be plural wives. Robin wouldn't agree to it, but I think the gold digger is on the verge of leaving him, taking half of the estate, anyway.
Yes, that was my question too. He’s turned away from the religion, long ago in fact. So his excuse of stringing Meri along so he can get more wives down the road sees quite invalid. Unless he thinks his tarnished history with women would cause potential wives to think he’s “not a good man”. But his words indicate that he was doing it for AUB…. So maybe it’s just ingrained thinking? He is perplexing. Oh, but then listening to Melanie, the daughter of the profit who gave Meri release: she said Kody snapped back at him saying, “you’d better not give Christine a release!” Which almost sounds Ike he does still hold some amount of reverence for the religion. Ugh… he’s impossible and offers so many conflicting statements!
I understand you can't make a definitive diagnosis on Kody. I also realize there could be many things going on with him. I have recognized that Kody displays many of the symptoms of Bipolar disorder. I assume he's had it for years. I also notice in the earlier seasons that he seemed to have traits of ADHD which is very common in many people with Bipolar disorder. He seems to be getting progressively worse and I believe that he needs to be medicated. I think we would see a much different side to Kody once he's stable. Everyone's calling him a Narcissist and part of Bipolar disorder is having narcissistic traits without necessarily having NPD.
Hey, Christine didn't even date Kody she just married him and that lasted many years! David has been single for a long period.... I believe it's when you know you know not saying ppl don't work out forever because of individuals changing
I see Kody has a sense of satisfaction when he can get under Meri’s skin and bring her to a place where she has to be combative and defend herself. He really is despicable. He has abused this woman for so long, and now she finally gets to move on.
I think the whole point of the accountability conversation was to get Meri to say something to prove he didn’t abandon her. Now he can go back to Robin & say Meri is the one that said there’s no going forward etc He manipulated Meri into giving him sound bites to save face.
I've been thinking the same thing. Some telltale signs are there...Moving so quickly and saying "I love you" within a week, talking about how "magical" it all is and calling each other "soulmates" right away. But the thing is, you hear stories like this that turn out to be love bombing from abusive narcissists, and then you hear the exact same stories from couples who've been in loving, happy marriages for decades. I really hope David and Christine are in the second category. But seriously, how do you know which is which, especially early on? Maybe David C. can answer this one for us?
Kody says that he is "a man of his own mind," yet his feelings are always the fault of someone else. It's their fault if he loves them and their fault if he doesn't. How is that him making up his own mind on how to feel? And why do his feelings have to be the fault of anyone? This man will say anything to avoid accountability.
Hey, don’t know if you’re up on the current sister wives situation Christine is suing Cody for child support and he is counter suing because he’s an asshole and he just bought a brand new house even though he wasn’t supposed to spend any money because of the lawsuit. He’s a sociopath or worse for sure.
They put in an offer for a new home in August and closed on Oct 24. The house is in Flagstaff. Over 7000 sq feet, 6 bedrooms, 7 bathrooms. The price was $2.1 million and they put over $400,000 down in cash as a down payment. The mortgage payment is upwards of $11,000 a month.
Can't wait for/ if Dayton' Preston is writing a book about how it was to growing up with Kody. About what terror it must have bin that time after Kody was to blame for his accident, that he and his mother tried to force on his father on national tv. And then forced / made him have to adopt so he didn't have to pay Dayton' Preston and his father immeasurable sums of $ in lack of insurance. 📚 ✍
I don’t think that Christine had a fear of being alone. Let’s face it her whole marriage to Cody. She has been alone. And for Kody that would be the definition for abandonment. Just in case you know he might read this.(of course I’m being a smart a$$) Kody wouldn’t know a good thing if it bit him in the butt! I wonder if he listens to himself after he speaks on TV so that he knows how stupid he sounds?!! Essentially it’s the woman’s fault for everything. He feels whether it’s good or bad. I think he needs an admission to the psych ward and not for a 72 hour hold.
He doesn’t like Christine lol he always over analyzes everything she does which is why he gave his excuses to be able to go in on her before he did. lol “this channel is about ….” Haven’t heard him say that before. Lol but he has to because he is hyper critical of Christine and people usually call him out on it on the comments section. 😂😂
It seems Kody will not take responsibility for anything, and his focus is on how he is perceived. All externals. Internally he is incredibly insecure. False bravado. What would make his house of cards fall down completely? Maybe if Robyn left too?
Kody made choices and choices have consequences. Lots of rules for me and not for thee going on. Robyn can hold Avalon. Ari can not hug Truely. He can go wear a mask for earrings the daughter didn’t even want. He can’t for scoliosis surgery to end years of pain he kept putting off. They can keep the little kids from Logan’s wedding. Maddie, how dare she scuttle the even more little kids away from grandpa.
I really wish you would go back to season 1 and watch the pilot episode. Kody says something like, “I love, love” with the implication of his 3 marriages and future one with Robin!
People have told him that for well over a year now. He has looked very hard to find reasons to support Robin, and seems to look very hard for reasons to criticize Christine. Found out tonight he's an avid Hunter and it explains a lot.
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Hey Dr. C, what are your thoughts in terms of what seems to me Kody's attempt to manipulate Meri to continue to control her? What I got out of it is, "ah, this is how he's manipulated her off camera." It seemed like, I hate you, but you could possibly win me back if you were to..... fill in the blank. I think an analysis of this sort of behavior is relevant generally.
Kody is like that crazy ex who wont let you go but refuses to love properly due to his own needs mattered more during the relationship. I guarantee he love bombed Meri and she suffered from narcissistic abuse.
David, I had a marriage and family professor who stressed if you're dating and have kids wait 6mo's before introductions. Christine lucked out w/David but do you think her actions could have been potentially harmful to Truly? She seems to disregard any opinions her kids had and as much as I like Christine this came off as self centered.
Don't you find it strange that he has all this advice for Christine but he doesn't want to diagnose or do the same for Kodi? I'm really starting to think that perhaps this guy is also in the atmosphere he's just more tolerable... I don't know there's something off about popsike
He is much harder and definitely opinionated about most of the women. Robyn and kody though.. far less. It is interesting. I just get the impression that something about Christine is truliggering for him. Amusing when you consider she has done way less harm than kody. I sometimes think we hold women to far higher standards
His "It's a woman's fault if" speech was reminiscent of abusive partner's reasing if they are violent. It's your fault I get angry/ blame yourself if I stalk/terrorise or hurt you in any way. He scares me and watching him descend into his darkness is awful. He should not have access to weapons of any sort, let alone sell them
I was SO confused by what Cody was saying.... Blame yourself if I don't love you? Or blame her if I love her? I was left confused by his way of thinking
I used to think Kody & Robyn were happy, but I think Robyn is increasingly miserable now. After losing all the other wives, Kody's anger is nonstop. Robyn has to walk on eggshells because she's afraid of him turning on her too.
I disagree that Cody was in terrible relationships I think the wives are in a terrible relationship with him but I don't think he was ever in a terrible relationship.
First let me say, I’m glad Christine is happy, but good lord the scenes with David are beyond cringe. I am also 50 and could never imagine acting like she is. Really cringe.
I will read the “link below “… after being a widow for 9 years I started dating. I found a man that checked many of my boxes… and yet not a perfect fit. His humor can be mean spirited towards me sometimes. I’m praying for wisdom.
Kody's flaw is that he wasn't willing to work on it with meri, Kody just wants the easy relationship where he is worshipped and everyone else is subservient. He manipulates the women and he always had to be right. He literally doesn't understand why the woman aren't groveling at his feetand worshipping him. His ego is hurt. Same for his kids.
One by one, we have seen these wives stand up for their own happiness. Robyn sobs about losing her "sisters" but she threw them away and subconsciously communicated to her husband that it is OK to do this. What a mess and run away wives and do not be afraid to take the jerk to court for you assets.
So what is the psychology behind someone who has insight into emotional intelligence choosing to spend time killing animals for enjoyment? Just lost all respect.
I was just thinking.. kissing and hugging.. of house in a fairly appropriate level infront of your kids is actually Christine modelling a more nornsl healthy relationship The sheer weirdness of hiw these kids have been brought up.. to not see their mum or dad hug goodbye or a quick kiss is baffling! David is a dad.. super sure there was nothing inappropriate level in front of the kids
I hate to tell ya but you need to be posting these 48hrs max after the episode airs if you wanna keep up with the Jones’s. We wait alllllllll weeeeeeekkkk for your posts. My husband is a hunter. No excuses. You need a Tuesday & Friday or Monday/Thursday posting schedule. Get with it (said with a smile). That said… I think Christine is being somewhat selfish in moving the relationship along despite how the kids feel. She really doesn’t care, she said it herself. I feel bad for Truley. She gets dragged along in all of Christine’s decisions. Good thing Truley likes David.
Kids usually go with their moms how come you don't have the same size for Robin's kids being dragged all over with her.. they literally are sheltered from everything they have no opinions outside what they're told that you got smoke for truly who's completely well-adjusted and happy??
I’m actually very sad for Christine’s kids. She literally said she didn’t care if they were uncomfortable with her relationship/PDA. That would hurt to hear my parent say that right after his/her divorce while I’m still trying to adjust to the loss of my married parents.
They know their parents haven't been married for a very long time. Kody hasn't lived with them since lehi and he has barely been in the house in 5 years at flagstaff
I understand they have a show together and Leon together , but Meri REALLY needs to have almost no contact with this guy. Every interaction is to bring her down , and I don’t think she quite understands how awful this guy is yet.
So a person stays in a sh*t relationship cause of fear of alone=Robyn exactly, she thought she was marying up, but she narried a nan no one else can stand- she's trying feverishly to get Kody to hate her so she can go, why else would she point out his faults failyre on TV about no relationship w/OG13
I love Christine and I truly hope she’s found her happily ever after! But sometimes it feels like she’s trying so hard to prove she’s found her soulmate with David that it comes across as overly forced. Then add the fact that she still takes jabs at Kody, like repeatedly posting selfies eating gas station nachos. I don’t know… it feels like a high school girl grabbing the first guy she sees and parading him around while glancing back at her ex. It just seems a bit contrived. But I hope I’m wrong because she deserves a good man!
And David is right there...taking part in the 'Nacho Wife' child antics. No matter how much I dislike Kody... I think the first time with that, should have been the last. She is mocking her kids father. I'm sure they see it, and more than likely heard about it. Going from Polygamy to grinding on your new husband in your Wedding Gown, was over the top... especially after trying to suck his tonsils out of his throat. When with Janelle for whatever Interview, she jumps in and hardly let's Janelle speak. I don't know... She is getting to be a little much. .
What some people who give Christina a hard time maybe don't know or aren't giving her credit for, is that she for a year before she met David went on dates with different men and had a no more than two-date rule. So while there may be married to she doesn't have a lot of dating experience our grandparents didn't either
David I need some advice on how to date after being single so long that now I’m reluctant to date and allow someone into my home because at least being alone there’s peace in my home 😬. No one wants to date without moving in way too fast if seems they want to “spend the night “ then it becomes a habit and boom you live together 😮
I don’t get it, I’m jealous though😂. My husband was murdered nearly three years ago. I don’t do anything anymore, but I can’t even imagine a replacement for the late husband, he had faults but after 38 years! I just don’t get how people replace people so easy. A acquaintance of mine lost her husband to cancer about the same time, within a year she was dating and she’s already remarried! I’m in disbelief!!!
Christine was single a long long time just not in nane...and kody was really abusive. She wasn't replacing kody... she had worked out what she wanted that would be better... I think Christine had some good end of relationship and life counselling. Yes she is probably rushing it but I get the strong impression she has been thinking about her life snd what relationship are for years
Your husband died her ex-husband is a douchebag they're not the same thing. Also you and Christine aren't the same person so the fact that you don't want to find somebody else doesn't really f****** matter
Kody said "If I don't love a woman, that's her fault, blame her. If I love a woman, that's her fault, blame her. " Following his own logic, can we say if his ex wives and children don't love him, that's his fault, blame him? I want to hear him try to explain why it's not the same.
He would find an excuse, he is a narcissist.
welcome to the world of "it's the woman's fault if she gets raped"
Actually, you can’t because he’s very clear on who’s responsibility it is and it’s women’s. He’s not a woman so it can’t be his responsibility.
He also has the same logic of a rapist, which I feel we should all file away and keep in mind
Hi, David! Glad to see ya; tell Allison not seeing her here is “like a knife in the kidneys “ 😂😂😅.
She’s sick - that’s why she didn’t make it
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@@PopPsych tell Allison that she better get well soon
Get well soon Allison. 💖🌷
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Kody's conversation with Meri was very disturbing. It's like a stalker saying that the object of his stalking is at fault for being stalked because she's so irresistible or it's a murder victim's fault because she provoked the killer by being in the wrong place at the wrong time. He does not take any responsibility for anything.
I think he’s actually dangerous now. All his failures are a blow to his bloated ego.
The entire conversation was bizarre and Kody continues to act as if the steroids and the botox and the exagerated facial expressions (maybe tied to his golden hair extensions) have made him a weird, manic, panting mess. Not even remotely the same guy we saw in the first few seasons. It's just awful. Robyn and the show have turned him into some kind of maniac.
That is exactly the same type of logic he is exhibiting.
It’s 100% creepy and it should feel creepy if you are not a creep
Imagine being married to crazy KB for 20 some years in a loveless marriage with no PDA. Then you get the heck out of Dodge, get your feet on the ground, and meet an affectionate gentleman that you’re compatible with. The PDA and verbal compliments of each other are so refreshing and life building. Like a breath of fresh air. So nah, no looking back and no regrets. Christine found her Prince Charming after have been “married” to the devil. She and David deserve a happy life together.
And... it's not a one way street. Look at David's situation, wife dies leaving him to raise all those kids and a bunch of dumb dates throughout the prime of his life. I've been there and done that and I have been thrilled that they found each other. It's like they've got a second chance to do it all again and are still young enough to enjoy it! Kids are always hesitant at first, this is so new, but I know from experience that if they're treated with respect and patience they'll come around. But I do think the lap dance at the wedding was way too much. Hoping Christine doesn't just flaunt it all in front of her kids. Just respect them. Her conversations with them are good. But did anyone else notice Truly during that convo? She's a bit of a mess.
I agree. Leave them alone.
Yes l agree 😊
He's so creepy. Blame yourself if your kids don't love you
Excellent comment ❤
Evil is a better word
I think another reason Kody was terrified of losing Meri, is that she's been around the longest and knows where ALL the bodies are buried. I'm sure she has knowledge of every scam and crime he's been involved in.
True, but all the women were willing participants to all the previous shady and illegal dealings. Meri has to be careful.
Kody said he was worried about what Meri would do if he ended the relationship maybe he was worried she would write a book.
@@jananderson5712 I'd read that book. And I don't even read fan books or fiction.
Spot on about
Does no one else think that Kody's repeated nasty remarks to Meri about never loving her, that he married the wrong person, that she should have left long ago, etc., aren't simply meant to keep her psychologically beaten down? These kind of remarks can be devastating to someone's self-esteem and self-worth, and I personally think this is what his goal is in making them. He was always emotionally and mentally abusive to Meri, and this is no different. It's a sick game! I think this type of rhetoric is also a way of distancing himself from taking any sort of accountability for his marriages, making it all their fault that he didn't love them. I really wish that Meri wouldn't subject herself to any further contact with this abusive creep!!
I'm more interested of David think so...
Kody’s treatment of Meri has kept her beaten down and also kept her trying to make their relationship work. I think he continues to do it so that the public won’t blame him. He can’t be accountable for anything. This is typical behavior of a narcissist.
Even worse is that he doesn't understand why Meri won't come around and be Robyns friend now!
Well, welcome to the conversation you should be aware, though that Cody has been emotionally and mentally abusing all of his wives and children since the very beginning
He lost control because over the years the public got their opinion to the wives , and it showing the wives that they’re worth more than what Cody always convinced and they were.
The emotional and mental abuse were actually clear from episode one
@@SummerRose56 me too! She had more self control than I would have.
I met my husband over a long weekend, spoke on the phone for a month and I came to his state to visit for a week………and never left. It’s now 33 wonderful years later and we are still deeply in love. I was 40, not 50 but my daughter was in college and I was able to do things for just me. I guess my point is……..sometimes you just KNOW, and we both knew we were the right one and perhaps Christine is right, David is THE one.
That's wonderful. I suspect you don't have 14 or really 21 children between you who were trying to adjust.
All but one of Christine's children are adult. Doesn't mean they don't struggle.. but does mean they are older and more able to discuss process and understand. Christine is pretty good at letting her kids talk and accepting their commentary and feelings as well.
Gosh I hope so. She deserves all the happiness after what she went through.
Both of my marriages were/are to Marines, long distance and short engagements. Widowed with #1 after ten years but going on 22 with #2 and we are still so happy. Only like one "fight" that I can ever think of, we just cherish each other. When you find JOY....well, that's the best way of putting it. It should be joy. That's your sign.
I can't imagine anything more soul-crushing than hearing the man you've been married to for almost 30 years say that he never loved you and regrets marrying you. I’m sure it's equally devastating to learn that your mother wasted so many lonely years on your heartless, selfish father.
I had that happen to me and it is devastating! Everything you thought you had with your partner is sudden wiped away. You begin to question everything. I think that is so much worse than being told you aren’t loved anymore. It negates the years you had together.
Meri was nasty to everyone in her family for yrs
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I wouldn’t say nasty. She was the disciplinarian. The children had no one else to discipline them. Kody was absent. Janelle just worked. Christine was overwhelmed. Some children actually liked her but they are not that vocal.
It is devastating to hear that the one you are married to was never in love with you because it messes with your sanity. 😮
Shirley, I completely agree. While I've never been a fan of Meri, I do feel for Christine and Meri being humiliated on national TV by Cody and Robyn. The mental abuse they experienced from Cody for many decades probably changed them in many negative ways. Janelle is the rebel in the family, she doesn't need any sorry-ass man to validate her worth.
His thinking is very chaotic and is getting increasingly scary. Meri should not have been subjected to that whole scene.At one point,she looked directly at the crew and stated she didn't know it was going to be a " fight".In the end,Meri handled it well but I hooe TLC begin to get alof more careful with what they film with him. Giving him this platform and the information to comment on,is just feedling an increasingly out of control, bush fire.
I love that she was ready to shut the whole thing down if he kept going in that direction. She won’t just sit there and take it because the producers told her that’s what was planned for filming today.
@@j.johnson7296 I think Kody made himself crystal clear. He would reel her back in if he could, just so he can abuse her some more. What a horrible man he is.
TLC has an abysmal track record of watching people be abused right in front of them and rolling the cameras anyways to hype up the drama. We've seen how they don't even take accountability for failure to screen people on those reality dating shows that have criminal histories.
I’m convinced this dude is saying all these ridiculous things to keep us watching and talking about him. Because if he really believes the crap that comes out of his mouth he is seriously mentally ill and needs to be in a Psych ward
He is a narcissist and fully believes what he says. Narcissists are not good candidates for mental counseling because they don't think they have done anything wrong.
I'm with you 100% because I swear to God if I ever sat down with a therapist that sounded like this I would walk the f*** out
Personally, I think it was quite cruel when Kody stated “I kind of like you now.”
That’s textbook behavior for an emotionally abusive person.
I agree with everything you said. Thank you for answering WHY he held on to Meri. I’ve always wondered? I loved how she stood up to him.
Kody"s behavior and attitude seem more than narcissistic. Does he have sociopathic or psychopathic behavior? I am trying to figure it out.
I think we all are …
He is clearly living with Bipolar disorder. This is what mania looks like and unmedicated Bipolar. I'm sad that no one and his family can see this and tried to get him help.
I’m not so certain that he’s not abusing anabolic steroids, the aggression and hostility somewhat exacerbates what he’s displaying here, coupled w Etoh, who knows what’s going on w/in his body right now. He might be toxic in more ways than one.
I think he’s a narcissist with ADHD. The ADHD accounts for why stupid things fly out of his mouth, there are no “brakes” to slow his thinking down and evaluate if they should be said or not.
Kody is not afraid of what Meri might say. Kody is afraid of what Robyn thinks of him. Kody is afraid of what the manosphere thinks of him. He is afraid of what his male friends think of him. He is afraid of what the men in the AUB think of him. Kody is not afraid of what Meri, Christine or Janelle think of him. He is not afraid of what his kids think of him. He is not afraid of what the audience thinks of him either.
He's ONLY afraid of being poor. He says. Looks like he's just bought another mansion though, so I guess he's been doing ok for himself. We likely helped that one along.
Glad to see your video, I enjoy your point of view
I never thought about Kody in that light. I just kept saying, "assho*e." and leaving it at that. He'd totally trade her feelings about herself, her ability to find happiness, her ability to chase her OWN dreams, for the POSSIBILITY he could someday get another woman,.and the church would ok it. What a selfish, evil sob. He is absolutely beneath contempt.
No punishment is necessary! Hello Allison where ever you are.
Those ppl who called her names they are JEALOUS they've never experienced that beautiful feeling.
I know Christine is super besotted with David, but that's to be expected given what she had before. Btw I hope Allison feels better soon. 💜
I love the technical explanations you provide!
I asked my therapist who I found after being in a relationship about 3 years that I do not know if it is love or anxiety. I was blessed to finally found a good therapist who is good for what I need, and I realised it may not be love 100%. I googled and found articles on this. We have to be really careful with confusing anxiety based in trauma, not even about loneliness, but confusing the feeling of anxiety which comes from how this person treats you (trigger :( ) and the so-called butterflies of love.
I've been waiting for this - these psychological insights are my favourite, as I really appreciate your considered and informative comments on this show. Please keep them coming 👏
I’m glad the kids are finally seeing an example of a healthy relationship. This might feel weird at first. They’re used to no love and yelling. I hope they copy Christine’s example at some point
I don't think TLC need to have Kody go to the women's homes. I think they need to film in a public place like the restraint and Kody needs to pay.
I swear that's the reason Janelle met with Kody at Salsa Brava after their fight. I wouldn't want him back to the house after that argument. Public spaces only and then he'll sort of behave himself. And just a side comment, Meri should never have had that conversation with Kody. Especially in her home. Kody's verbal cruelty is escalating and these OG3 women and their kids need to protect their mental health and quit having conversations with Kody for content.
@@judypranke735in her home might be better though because she’s on home turf where she could feel more comfortable and confident.
Thank you for your insight…
She never had what she really, really desperately wanted. She is finding it in this relationship!! I am so for it!!! ExMo here. I got married when I was a week into my 21st year. I am still married to the same man… 40yrs this January. We have both left the main stream LDS church. Still have family, friends in. TBM (true believing Mormon) I hold them in high regard! Smart, kind individuals. It makes me sad that never-mo’s like to weigh in on how it all is. but, I am totally embarrassed by the FLDS religion. Like it or not, they are part of the mainstream core religion.
Yay! I've been waiting all week for your video! 😅
Thank you! A great video, love hearing the psych angle and that is why I tune in.
Ohh somebody’s finally seeing Kody’s true colors 👏🏽 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Wouldn’t have taken you for a hunter. 😮
Me neither. 😕
Same 😔
I have never really though what a hunter looks or seems like.. maybe an American thing
Ikr?
@@NM-ub6ml Idk…. I have a stereotype of my brothers in my head. Tobacco chewing, camo wearing, carhartt hat and jacket.
David!!! This was awesome. I’m sure you hit on the answer with Kody. He’s so over-the-top with his ideas and his antics. I’m thinking it’s more than just narcissism. Sociopath?
lol i've been dying to see you and Allison react to this madness
I keep checking you tube for u guys I was getting worried! Lol
@@amydwyer1191 me too
I don't understand why Kody goes on about being "given" (ewww) more wives when he says he doesn't believe the church dogma anymore. The cult will have heard him apostatize, so why would they toss more women to him? His brain is too scrambled to figure out that apostacy already disqualifies him?
Kody could purse non-religious polygamy. If we agree with Barnum that a sucker is born every minute, Kody has the name-recognition ability to attract random women to be plural wives. Robin wouldn't agree to it, but I think the gold digger is on the verge of leaving him, taking half of the estate, anyway.
Yes, that was my question too. He’s turned away from the religion, long ago in fact. So his excuse of stringing Meri along so he can get more wives down the road sees quite invalid. Unless he thinks his tarnished history with women would cause potential wives to think he’s “not a good man”. But his words indicate that he was doing it for AUB…. So maybe it’s just ingrained thinking? He is perplexing. Oh, but then listening to Melanie, the daughter of the profit who gave Meri release: she said Kody snapped back at him saying, “you’d better not give Christine a release!” Which almost sounds
Ike he does still hold some amount of reverence for the religion. Ugh… he’s impossible and offers so many conflicting statements!
It’s so nice following Christine (and Janelle)…
Kody isn’t really a role-model for America’s husbands and fathers
I think he got narc supply off her. Tormenting them and controlling them made kody feel good
I understand you can't make a definitive diagnosis on Kody. I also realize there could be many things going on with him. I have recognized that Kody displays many of the symptoms of Bipolar disorder. I assume he's had it for years. I also notice in the earlier seasons that he seemed to have traits of ADHD which is very common in many people with Bipolar disorder. He seems to be getting progressively worse and I believe that he needs to be medicated. I think we would see a much different side to Kody once he's stable. Everyone's calling him a Narcissist and part of Bipolar disorder is having narcissistic traits without necessarily having NPD.
Hey, Christine didn't even date Kody she just married him and that lasted many years! David has been single for a long period.... I believe it's when you know you know not saying ppl don't work out forever because of individuals changing
I wasted 15 years of my life with a kody type. He all of a sudden left me to marry someone else.
I see Kody has a sense of satisfaction when he can get under Meri’s skin and bring her to a place where she has to be combative and defend herself. He really is despicable. He has abused this woman for so long, and now she finally gets to move on.
The design and color scheme of your set is fab!
He is just making a fool of himself when saying all those stupid and hurtfull things.
I think the whole point of the accountability conversation was to get Meri to say something to prove he didn’t abandon her. Now he can go back to Robin & say Meri is the one that said there’s no going forward etc He manipulated Meri into giving him sound bites to save face.
Lets hope that David's attention and affection so early on wasn't narcissistic love bombing. That would break my heart for Christine.
I've been thinking the same thing. Some telltale signs are there...Moving so quickly and saying "I love you" within a week, talking about how "magical" it all is and calling each other "soulmates" right away. But the thing is, you hear stories like this that turn out to be love bombing from abusive narcissists, and then you hear the exact same stories from couples who've been in loving, happy marriages for decades. I really hope David and Christine are in the second category. But seriously, how do you know which is which, especially early on? Maybe David C. can answer this one for us?
Kody says that he is "a man of his own mind," yet his feelings are always the fault of someone else. It's their fault if he loves them and their fault if he doesn't. How is that him making up his own mind on how to feel? And why do his feelings have to be the fault of anyone? This man will say anything to avoid accountability.
Hey, don’t know if you’re up on the current sister wives situation Christine is suing Cody for child support and he is counter suing because he’s an asshole and he just bought a brand new house even though he wasn’t supposed to spend any money because of the lawsuit. He’s a sociopath or worse for sure.
I have read that they took their McMansion off the market because of a court order due to Christine’s lawsuit. K and R have not bought another home.
Actually, yes they did. Hopefully it's a violation of the order Christine filed and he gets hit with contempt.
@@bridgettross4589They absolutely have bought a new very expensive house. Look it up.
They put in an offer for a new home in August and closed on Oct 24. The house is in Flagstaff. Over 7000 sq feet, 6 bedrooms, 7 bathrooms. The price was $2.1 million and they put over $400,000 down in cash as a down payment. The mortgage payment is upwards of $11,000 a month.
@@angelatheriault8855Holy hell. They have got to be the very stupidest people on earth. Do they think this show will last forever?!
Can't wait for/ if Dayton' Preston is writing a book about how it was to growing up with Kody. About what terror it must have bin that time after Kody was to blame for his accident, that he and his mother tried to force on his father on national tv. And then forced / made him have to adopt so he didn't have to pay Dayton' Preston and his father immeasurable sums of $ in lack of insurance. 📚 ✍
Wait, is he actually writing a book or you just want him to write a book?
I don’t think that Christine had a fear of being alone. Let’s face it her whole marriage to Cody. She has been alone. And for Kody that would be the definition for abandonment. Just in case you know he might read this.(of course I’m being a smart a$$) Kody wouldn’t know a good thing if it bit him in the butt! I wonder if he listens to himself after he speaks on TV so that he knows how stupid he sounds?!! Essentially it’s the woman’s fault for everything. He feels whether it’s good or bad. I think he needs an admission to the psych ward and not for a 72 hour hold.
He doesn’t like Christine lol he always over analyzes everything she does which is why he gave his excuses to be able to go in on her before he did. lol “this channel is about ….” Haven’t heard him say that before. Lol but he has to because he is hyper critical of Christine and people usually call him out on it on the comments section. 😂😂
Yeah it is strange.
All he's worried about is his ego. He doesn't like being judged.
It seems Kody will not take responsibility for anything, and his focus is on how he is perceived. All externals. Internally he is incredibly insecure. False bravado. What would make his house of cards fall down completely? Maybe if Robyn left too?
Kody made choices and choices have consequences. Lots of rules for me and not for thee going on. Robyn can hold Avalon. Ari can not hug Truely. He can go wear a mask for earrings the daughter didn’t even want. He can’t for scoliosis surgery to end years of pain he kept putting off. They can keep the little kids from Logan’s wedding. Maddie, how dare she scuttle the even more little kids away from grandpa.
I really wish you would go back to season 1 and watch the pilot episode. Kody says something like, “I love, love” with the implication of his 3 marriages and future one with Robin!
People have told him that for well over a year now. He has looked very hard to find reasons to support Robin, and seems to look very hard for reasons to criticize Christine. Found out tonight he's an avid Hunter and it explains a lot.
I think Kody is trolling us. I can’t believe there is a person that thinks this way. He has to be messing with our heads
With his logic you can say "Kody, don't blame your wives for leaving you. That's on you Kody"
Kody started in season 1 with golden retriever energy. Now he's all angry Chihuahua energy.
David, You Are Not Obligated To Even Produce These Videos...No Punishment Given ! I Love You And Miss Allison - You Are Wonderful Together ! Thank You For All That You Do For Us !
Hey Dr. C, what are your thoughts in terms of what seems to me Kody's attempt to manipulate Meri to continue to control her? What I got out of it is, "ah, this is how he's manipulated her off camera." It seemed like, I hate you, but you could possibly win me back if you were to..... fill in the blank. I think an analysis of this sort of behavior is relevant generally.
Lol I've been checking over and over. This is the breakdown we needed
Kody is like that crazy ex who wont let you go but refuses to love properly due to his own needs mattered more during the relationship. I guarantee he love bombed Meri and she suffered from narcissistic abuse.
I know I say this every time, I wish your videos were longer. 😊
David, I had a marriage and family professor who stressed if you're dating and have kids wait 6mo's before introductions. Christine lucked out w/David but do you think her actions could have been potentially harmful to Truly? She seems to disregard any opinions her kids had and as much as I like Christine this came off as self centered.
Don't you find it strange that he has all this advice for Christine but he doesn't want to diagnose or do the same for Kodi? I'm really starting to think that perhaps this guy is also in the atmosphere he's just more tolerable... I don't know there's something off about popsike
He is much harder and definitely opinionated about most of the women. Robyn and kody though.. far less. It is interesting. I just get the impression that something about Christine is truliggering for him. Amusing when you consider she has done way less harm than kody.
I sometimes think we hold women to far higher standards
His "It's a woman's fault if" speech was reminiscent of abusive partner's reasing if they are violent. It's your fault I get angry/ blame yourself if I stalk/terrorise or hurt you in any way.
He scares me and watching him descend into his darkness is awful. He should not have access to weapons of any sort, let alone sell them
I'm so glad someone, you, finally talked about Christine's relationship. I'm happy for her but I think it moved incredibly fast
I was SO confused by what Cody was saying.... Blame yourself if I don't love you? Or blame her if I love her? I was left confused by his way of thinking
I look forward to your videos all the time David I hope that you’ve been well. I hope you had fun hunting.
Kody didn’t want to lose the $$ the wives brought in either.
I don't know how he misses that every time
So true. Did that with my ex. He married the woman he cheated with...now I'm almost 60 yo and happy to be alone.
I used to think Kody & Robyn were happy, but I think Robyn is increasingly miserable now. After losing all the other wives, Kody's anger is nonstop. Robyn has to walk on eggshells because she's afraid of him turning on her too.
I’m still hitting the like button, you’re allowed to have a life ffs. Glad to see you back though ☺️
I disagree that Cody was in terrible relationships I think the wives are in a terrible relationship with him but I don't think he was ever in a terrible relationship.
First let me say, I’m glad Christine is happy, but good lord the scenes with David are beyond cringe. I am also 50 and could never imagine acting like she is. Really cringe.
I bet you look cringy when you flirt too
I will read the “link below “… after being a widow for 9 years I started dating. I found a man that checked many of my boxes… and yet not a perfect fit. His humor can be mean spirited towards me sometimes.
I’m praying for wisdom.
Thanks again, your insight is great!
Kody's flaw is that he wasn't willing to work on it with meri, Kody just wants the easy relationship where he is worshipped and everyone else is subservient. He manipulates the women and he always had to be right. He literally doesn't understand why the woman aren't groveling at his feetand worshipping him. His ego is hurt. Same for his kids.
One by one, we have seen these wives stand up for their own happiness. Robyn sobs about losing her "sisters" but she threw them away and subconsciously communicated to her husband that it is OK to do this. What a mess and run away wives and do not be afraid to take the jerk to court for you assets.
They used an old clip that clip was from the last season with Cody. Or should I say they reused it.
This episode was peak cringe Kody. Just the absolute most absurd I've ever seen. Borderline delusional. Nonsensical, disconnected thinking.
I miss Allison. She is my puzzle piece of this channel.
So what is the psychology behind someone who has insight into emotional intelligence choosing to spend time killing animals for enjoyment? Just lost all respect.
Right
David, you don’t get punished for taking a trip. 😊
Agree with you David👍🏻
I was just thinking.. kissing and hugging.. of house in a fairly appropriate level infront of your kids is actually Christine modelling a more nornsl healthy relationship
The sheer weirdness of hiw these kids have been brought up.. to not see their mum or dad hug goodbye or a quick kiss is baffling!
David is a dad.. super sure there was nothing inappropriate level in front of the kids
Kody sounds so infantile.
I hate to tell ya but you need to be posting these 48hrs max after the episode airs if you wanna keep up with the Jones’s. We wait alllllllll weeeeeeekkkk for your posts. My husband is a hunter. No excuses. You need a Tuesday & Friday or Monday/Thursday posting schedule. Get with it (said with a smile).
That said… I think Christine is being somewhat selfish in moving the relationship along despite how the kids feel. She really doesn’t care, she said it herself. I feel bad for Truley. She gets dragged along in all of Christine’s decisions. Good thing Truley likes David.
Kids usually go with their moms how come you don't have the same size for Robin's kids being dragged all over with her.. they literally are sheltered from everything they have no opinions outside what they're told that you got smoke for truly who's completely well-adjusted and happy??
I’m actually very sad for Christine’s kids. She literally said she didn’t care if they were uncomfortable with her relationship/PDA. That would hurt to hear my parent say that right after his/her divorce while I’m still trying to adjust to the loss of my married parents.
They know their parents haven't been married for a very long time. Kody hasn't lived with them since lehi and he has barely been in the house in 5 years at flagstaff
I understand they have a show together and Leon together , but Meri REALLY needs to have almost no contact with this guy. Every interaction is to bring her down , and I don’t think she quite understands how awful this guy is yet.
So a person stays in a sh*t relationship cause of fear of alone=Robyn exactly, she thought she was marying up, but she narried a nan no one else can stand- she's trying feverishly to get Kody to hate her so she can go, why else would she point out his faults failyre on TV about no relationship w/OG13
Reasons I’m here : SW and Allison… but Okok thankk you for the leg work David
Thank you for explaining Kody s dumb logic on Meri vs Robym on Fan opinion. He s an idiot
Spot on again David!
Missed you dude!
Hit the like button since you said not to 😂
David can not say anything positive about Christine. I knew up front that he couldn't leave it as good for her.
Ever
Yup. I have cone to that conclusion too. It is most odd. She isn't perfect but is also pretty decent to others.
I love Christine and I truly hope she’s found her happily ever after! But sometimes it feels like she’s trying so hard to prove she’s found her soulmate with David that it comes across as overly forced. Then add the fact that she still takes jabs at Kody, like repeatedly posting selfies eating gas station nachos. I don’t know… it feels like a high school girl grabbing the first guy she sees and parading him around while glancing back at her ex. It just seems a bit contrived. But I hope I’m wrong because she deserves a good man!
And David is right there...taking part in the 'Nacho Wife' child antics.
No matter how much I dislike Kody... I think the first time with that, should have been the last.
She is mocking her kids father. I'm sure they see it, and more than likely heard about it.
Going from Polygamy to grinding on your new husband in your Wedding Gown, was over the top... especially after trying to suck his tonsils out of his throat.
When with Janelle for whatever Interview, she jumps in and hardly let's Janelle speak.
I don't know... She is getting to be a little much.
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What some people who give Christina a hard time maybe don't know or aren't giving her credit for, is that she for a year before she met David went on dates with different men and had a no more than two-date rule. So while there may be married to she doesn't have a lot of dating experience our grandparents didn't either
You are always spot on
David I need some advice on how to date after being single so long that now I’m reluctant to date and allow someone into my home because at least being alone there’s peace in my home 😬. No one wants to date without moving in way too fast if seems they want to “spend the night “ then it becomes a habit and boom you live together 😮
I don’t get it, I’m jealous though😂.
My husband was murdered nearly three years ago. I don’t do anything anymore, but I can’t even imagine a replacement for the late husband, he had faults but after 38 years! I just don’t get how people replace people so easy. A acquaintance of mine lost her husband to cancer about the same time, within a year she was dating and she’s already remarried! I’m in disbelief!!!
Christine was single a long long time just not in nane...and kody was really abusive. She wasn't replacing kody... she had worked out what she wanted that would be better...
I think Christine had some good end of relationship and life counselling.
Yes she is probably rushing it but I get the strong impression she has been thinking about her life snd what relationship are for years
Your husband died her ex-husband is a douchebag they're not the same thing. Also you and Christine aren't the same person so the fact that you don't want to find somebody else doesn't really f****** matter
I’d like to see you react to Caleb hammer’s spoiled couple!
Christine married a fan.