raph Nah, these days American education, at least on the West coast where I graduated, all of American history was essentially taught as “we suck and have always been terrible people, say sorry to the world”
honestly, Italy unified in 1500 would have been a superpower, considering that the richest bankers were there, one of the best navies with Genoa and Venice working togheter and not against each other and some of the best fighters (considering that 80 % of sword martial arts in Europe developed in Italy, believe it or not ) to make an army. It would be just idiotic to compare it to modern Italy unfied at the end of 19th century, it would have been a massively different nation and a very powerful one.
Zephyr Z By 1821 Ming had not existed for over 100 years and Qing (a Manchu state) owned China. China had not been technologically more advanced than Europe for over 300 years and Europe was beginning to industrialise, something that allowed them to kick China around for the next 150~ years. China is not historically on top in most of the time periods covered in EU4.
@@thecoldhardtruth2986 ...... For the first 150 years. After that it was decadence and getting taken over by nomads yet again. Plus, considering their state and that of Japan at the beginning of the XVII th century, had Admiral Yi not existed, they might have got taken over by a several hundred thousand soldier strong Japanese army full of war veterans and equipped with modern weapons and led by talented generals, so yeah, they definitely weren't untouchable even in their own region (but if you wonder, this invasion was a failure thanks to a Korean admiral who just -yeeted- Yited their supply train, without him it is probable that the Japanese Empire would have formed a few centuries early)
In the low middle age and during the rinacence Italy was the richest land of Europe but it isn't unificated so it was not so powerful and lost his power during modern times
@@alexanderthekriegsofficer2645 Did I mention the Roman empire? Aniway yes, Italy was for the first time in it's history unified by the Roman empire. However, the republic made a clear distinction between empire, and "Italia", the senatorial province of the empire. During the actual empire, the importance of Italy remained until the death of Aurelius and the rapid decrease in senatorial say in state matters. That is why, Roman themselves made up the concept of "Italy"... initially has a cultural basis (which did not include all Italic people, but however included some non-italic people, the Etruscans. Paradoxically, the Romans were more etruscan than Italic)... Sulla (republic) made Italy into a proper geographically defined area (no more on account of actual Italics) and later Octavian (first emperor of Rome) expanded the territory of Italy up to the enitre Italian peninsula (with almost exact geographic borders. The colonization by latins and other Italics such as Veneti and Ligurians in the inner po-valley allowed for this).
@@leonardodavid2842 Savoy at the time of the unification was part of Sardinia-Piedmont with Nizza, so if he gave Italy Corsica he should have gave them too, andeven Istria
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The “Tierra de vera cruz” name comes from the first name given by the Portuguese to Brazil around 1500: “Terra de Vera Cruz (like land of the true cross)
"That Irish nation" at the end, Ulster, owns pretty much ALL of Ireland... Except for the province Ulster, their former capital. They were also the last clan in history to be taken by the Brits, so in this universe they were the first to die but not before they conquered the rest of Ireland...
Tip for future videos like this: you need to make these nations a mission tree, giving the options. The ai plays along their mission tree and that is what makes ottomans, france or uk so strong besides their strong starts
I like EU4 watches more than HoI4: there's a certain amount of mystery and sudden swings of the pendulum in only a short couple minutes to leave it feeling much more like it's being compressed into this dense video whereas the HoI4 ones often felt *stretched* into 10 minutes.
I think drew went to class just didnt listen at all...how are you this historically inept drew! ISP knows more about history than you do and everyone hates him lol
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PuNcH BoI actually half Italy was loyal till the end and surrended when the Germans did, meanwhile what actually happen in ww1 was that Austria-Hungary broke the treaty of the triple Alliance by unilaterally attacking Serbia (see art. 1 and art. 7 of the treaty, it was allowed only by mutual accord) so Italy and Austria were no more allies since 28/7/1914. It remained the question of the compensation (se art. 7 again, even the german mediators considered the position of Austria-Hungary unreasonable on that point) and over that, war was declared to Austria-Hungary on 23/5/1915. so we can say that Italy "switched side" because Austria betrayed them.
@@ejajafrozarb emh.... Roman republic, Ostrogothic kingdom and Lotharian Italy (also called kingdom of Italy)... obviously we need to distinguish them so we give them different names. All three of them called themselves Italy (altough the Ostrogthic one very much wasn't) the Romans being the first in history (who coined the concept of Italy and Italic people)
Drew: I'm going to reform Italy and its going to be so entertaining! Game: Lets make Spain, Turkey, Morocco, Korea, and the Commonwealth have the best games they possibly could
*forms Italy*
*draws a FRENCH mustache*
You sure you weren't inhaling that permanent marker BEFORE you started drawing?
He was drawing in the oose from it, the mustache was just a side effect.
Useless Productions if you are a Syrian and support trump, you don’t know what he did to our people (and Obama and Clinton too)
666 likes nice
Italian, French, what’s the difference
Bruh they gave Corsica to Italy. Reee
maybe now that Argentina is British, no one will be as mad about the Falklands
😂
Or maybe British Argentina will claim them from Spain.
First time they're actually british 😂
Uhm no
@Reunite The British Empire so you “studied it's history” and claim that they where always british?
Italian Canada, maybe it is just Mussolini teleported to prevent discovery of Hawaiian pizza.
The only time i would help him
🇮🇹italia🇮🇹 🇳🇴norge🇳🇴
Nooo
From an italian: that's is the our secret plan, to bring to life Mussolini and send it in the past too save the pizza. But don't tell it to anyone XD
@@miraigond8412 Silence fool! Il Duce was numero uno!
Drew: Italy is the 2nd strongest, I wasn’t expecting that...
Modern Italy: *Sneezes in Superpower*
more like sneezes in coronavirus
@@bekqu4499 lmao
@@bekqu4499 man that's not funny
@Bekqu didn’t age too well.
@@bekqu4499 god that aging looks muffed
*OBSERVE HARDER*
OBSERVE DEEPER
Kioerrr oh yeah yeah
Senpai noticed you
@@ogulcankrmzaltn4531 what the fu
@@ogulcankrmzaltn4531 cringe
How the hell do you not know what the Anglican Church is?
Nathaniel Cueto he is from the USA they jump all of that and just teach that they are the heroes of the world
raph I’m from the US and I know what it is. Then again, I didn’t learn about it because of school...
I'm from Europe and I don't know what Anglican Church is. Nobody really cares about UK so they don't teach it.
Almir Murtic anglican church was the state church of England and it was based around the king of England
raph Nah, these days American education, at least on the West coast where I graduated, all of American history was essentially taught as “we suck and have always been terrible people, say sorry to the world”
What if all nations had their WW1 borders 500 years earlier?
Charley Wymore eu4 ww1 mod?
Very easy. Download the mod called "Extended Timeline" and play whatever date you want. Roman Empire at its height, WWI...
“What if Italy was formed?”
**italy does nothing and dies**
Just like WWII
Daniel Tarver yes, but actually no.
At least there wasint a africa front
just like real life
honestly, Italy unified in 1500 would have been a superpower, considering that the richest bankers were there, one of the best navies with Genoa and Venice working togheter and not against each other and some of the best fighters (considering that 80 % of sword martial arts in Europe developed in Italy, believe it or not ) to make an army. It would be just idiotic to compare it to modern Italy unfied at the end of 19th century, it would have been a massively different nation and a very powerful one.
Ming seems to top these videos a lot, so what about forming the maximum extent Japanese Empire in 1942, but ~500 years early?
It would be too op
COYS
I come from the future, He did exactly that
Zephyr Z By 1821 Ming had not existed for over 100 years and Qing (a Manchu state) owned China. China had not been technologically more advanced than Europe for over 300 years and Europe was beginning to industrialise, something that allowed them to kick China around for the next 150~ years. China is not historically on top in most of the time periods covered in EU4.
@@thecoldhardtruth2986 ...... For the first 150 years.
After that it was decadence and getting taken over by nomads yet again. Plus, considering their state and that of Japan at the beginning of the XVII th century, had Admiral Yi not existed, they might have got taken over by a several hundred thousand soldier strong Japanese army full of war veterans and equipped with modern weapons and led by talented generals, so yeah, they definitely weren't untouchable even in their own region (but if you wonder, this invasion was a failure thanks to a Korean admiral who just -yeeted- Yited their supply train, without him it is probable that the Japanese Empire would have formed a few centuries early)
"500 years earlier"
"1444"
I guess Italy formed during the 2nd World War
Use Extended Timeline to go to 1370
Italy was formed on 1864-5
@@rod9729 on 1861
@@Historyboi-vn7gd oh yeah sorry.
@@Historyboi-vn7gd wasn't it formed officialy in 1871?
What if Yugoslavia formed 500 years early
yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees
The Balkan Mapper thats actually a real thing in eu4
Nirad802 doesnt it have a different name tho? And it almost never happens
They would probably just get eaten up by the Ottomans as the green blob always does.
Brandon Lyon they still would be a bit stronger and a good idea would be to make them allies with the russians and athens
*italy forms*
Venice: *still independent*
What if drew durnil formed 500 years ago?
Crackistan*
You mean crack republic
What if gæ formed 500 years ago
If Drew Durnil formed 500 years ago, then we’d all be safe.
WORLD DOMINATION
Yugoslavia in 1444
Mussolini is proud
I wanted to say they kinda failed at the end...
*BUT THATS MUSOLINI FOR YA*
PanzerScout Story's you meant Garibaldi and Mazzini
PanzerScout Story's I was waiting to see Italy wreck house, and then realized this is drew and not ISP who knows how to play the game
As long as the trains ran on time
Me an australian
"I think I'm Italian now"
* take pizza and spaghetti *
as an italian please stop with food jokes
@@kyra9513 stop witch ww2 stupud jome they don't made laugh they only suck
@@kyra9513 and they isn't historical accurate
Aren'r*
Split the world into time zones and let them tug it out.
FroyourFilms `
Rephrase that last part. RIGHT! NOW!
CET would absolutely dominate though...
0:55
Why weren't you expecting that? Italy is hands down the most dense and developed region in the world at the 1444 start.
In the low middle age and during the rinacence Italy was the richest land of Europe but it isn't unificated so it was not so powerful and lost his power during modern times
If you keep your moustache you will keep switching sides with the Yogscast
how do you open up the great powers list?
JadenStar10 Do you have the requiered DLC?
if you have the Rights of Man dlc, there is a blue flag button right under your flag, otherwise it's not there.
What if Soviet Union Formed 500 years early
You can't do it in this game. There are no communists, socialists, or anything like that.
Naoko Daimon Mods
Yeah watching a hopeless political ideology not pay debts & making people starve will of course be as amusing at when it happened IRL
you can make revolutionery Russia
@@wondeboy12 Don't care it's just a game
What if the Soviet Union forms 500 years early?
Lzj 04 No
Dear god
The rude Potato chip yes
Please yes!! Mother Russia will take all. Long live to the Motherland
Lordparshnipz57 Ok
Italy colonised the Australian ocean to drown their prisoners
The prisoners drown themselves.. italy cant help it if they choose to use her waters to do it in. See what happened?
The prisoners are the ones who made pizza with ananas
But what about San Marino? That map is missing San Marino! They didn't unify with the rest of Italy!
This is eu4 and San Marino is insignificant
There's no province for San Marino in EU4 so it would be way bigger than the real life San Marino unless you change the map's provinces.
The real error is giving Italy Corsica, which never belonged to Italy (well only 2 years in WW2...)
Genoese republic ruled Corsica for many years. They're italians to you or what?
@@CoffeeSuccubus I am a single person so yes I am but San Marino can't do a thing so my point still stands
drew back then: I'll never gonna grow a mustache
drew now: Chad Beard
Peru formed 500 years early. I want my llama empire now.
Therapist: Drewigi doesn’t exist, he can’t hurt you
Drewigi:
Grow a real mustache and paint with it.
I'm pretty sure if he grew an actual mustache then he would be breaking reality itself
how do you open up the great powers list?
he doesn´t have enough testosterone :I
Clay War he grew out his beard in a video
he consumes too much soy
10:12 LMAO the LGBT broke Russia.
Lmfaoo so hard 😭
trans people are becoming very powerful
Do a HOI4 video with Italian Canada, Italian Australia, Italian New Zealand, and Korean Japan
Yes
Now THAT'S something I'd love to see. I want Drew to build up some lore here
Also Belgium doesn't exist, the Netherlands is tiny but with many puppets, and Spain controls all of France that isn't controlled by German minors.
What of the Roman Empire existed in 1944
What about a totally underpowered idea? *What if Russia formed 500 years early?*
500 is too much
so it formed in 1043?
No thats the Rus not Russia
Russia was formed in 1547 by Muscovy (video would be 100 years yearlier)
As an italian i love this
0:58 This is just before the Renaissance. During this time a random Italian state was more powerful than most states around the world.
What if *THE UNITED NATIONS OF EARTH* formed 800 years early
So you are predicting that it will form in 2244?
@@babyfaec according to stellaris lore, it formed in late 21st century
oh, didnt know
What a fairy tale
@anti non gamers association i'm saying that an united world is just a fairy tale
why did you give italy corsica but not niza,savoy,etc?
Savoy? Why.
Anyway, Istria and trentino?
@@leonardodavid2842 why not every region of old roman empire ?
@@alexanderthekriegsofficer2645 Did I mention the Roman empire?
Aniway yes, Italy was for the first time in it's history unified by the Roman empire. However, the republic made a clear distinction between empire, and "Italia", the senatorial province of the empire. During the actual empire, the importance of Italy remained until the death of Aurelius and the rapid decrease in senatorial say in state matters.
That is why, Roman themselves made up the concept of "Italy"... initially has a cultural basis (which did not include all Italic people, but however included some non-italic people, the Etruscans. Paradoxically, the Romans were more etruscan than Italic)... Sulla (republic) made Italy into a proper geographically defined area (no more on account of actual Italics) and later Octavian (first emperor of Rome) expanded the territory of Italy up to the enitre Italian peninsula (with almost exact geographic borders. The colonization by latins and other Italics such as Veneti and Ligurians in the inner po-valley allowed for this).
@@leonardodavid2842 Savoy at the time of the unification was part of Sardinia-Piedmont with Nizza, so if he gave Italy Corsica he should have gave them too, andeven Istria
@@leonardodavid2842 because of the DUTCHY
You could do "what if Byzantium never fell?" Basically just give them all the starting Ottoman territory?
To sum up Anglican in ten words: King Henry The Eighth Wanted To Get A New Wife.
what if hre united in 1444 ai only
Robin van Rossum +
uh, the hre was around in the yeah 800 lol
Lil’ Benitos wet dream
Oh boy, if Drew knew he would have a chad beard.
Do what if the united states formed early
yeeeeeee boiii
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Make it the thirteen colonies though so its a bit more interesting
Connor Kelly What if United States was never formed
The “Tierra de vera cruz” name comes from the first name given by the Portuguese to Brazil around 1500: “Terra de Vera Cruz (like land of the true cross)
what if USSR or Russian Empire formed in 1444
Crimson Scourge 1944?
1964*
Drew : take half of Aragon, giving Naples and Sicilia to Italy
Also Drew : Oh god Castille already PU'd Aragon!
What if Balkan peninsula unify in 1444
What if Balkan peninsula was ever unified?
N O W W 1 B O I
@@KamepinUA SoRrY, mY BaD BoY
They probably would’ve still been eaten by the Ottomans and their bullshit discipline.
Well Italy formed at 1500 circa in my current game.
Drew, there's a government called "Peasant's Republic" in EU4, Perfect for Soviet union. Only starting nation is Dithmarschen though.
“In my attempts to role play”- quickly turns up volume
"That Irish nation" at the end, Ulster, owns pretty much ALL of Ireland... Except for the province Ulster, their former capital. They were also the last clan in history to be taken by the Brits, so in this universe they were the first to die but not before they conquered the rest of Ireland...
Tip for future videos like this: you need to make these nations a mission tree, giving the options. The ai plays along their mission tree and that is what makes ottomans, france or uk so strong besides their strong starts
What if Italy had all of England's colonies (including the East Coast of the US cause why not) in HOI4?
What if Vespucci and Columbo worked for Italy rather than Spain/England.
Me (an Italian) after reading the title:"don't do that...don't give me hope!"
What if the Gallic empire of the 3rd century survived. Spain, France, and Britain with Roman label= Gallic Empire
He should make his profile on steam public to see how many hours he observed HOI4
Underrrated
What if Stalin formed in 1444
Hey Drew, what mod do you use for your texture pack? It looks really nice.
I like EU4 watches more than HoI4: there's a certain amount of mystery and sudden swings of the pendulum in only a short couple minutes to leave it feeling much more like it's being compressed into this dense video whereas the HoI4 ones often felt *stretched* into 10 minutes.
Can you even imagine an Italian Rimmy?
Do Yugoslavia or Austria Hungary next
I like how when first saw this I said so disappointment 500 years early then
RUclips: *Says there are 3 comments*
Me: *Sees 5 comments*
Oh no, it’s happened again
A weird panic! fan *x-files theme plays*
Drew is really one of the greatest
What HOI4 mod is this
Search "Drew Durnil is gae hoi4 mod" Its that mod
do u kno da wei its the early 2018 memes mod
8:26 oh YOU SURE SHOULD MAKE A VID BOUT DAT
has drew never taken a history class?
Bannabats fillin seemingly never played eu4 either lol. Iberian wedding springs to mind
And jesus he just noticed sunni india hahaha
He doesn't know what Anglicans are, either.
ZechsMerquise73 ik that’s what I was referring too
I think drew went to class just didnt listen at all...how are you this historically inept drew! ISP knows more about history than you do and everyone hates him lol
I WANT ROMANIA PLS AND LOTS OF COLONIES =D (btw really good idea dude, where do you get those from, cuz i want too =D )
Paradox mega campaing 1444-1956
800-1956 would be an even megaer campain
Little did soyboy know that in 2021,he had turned into a chad.
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Taiga I do believe you were thy fist being to comment on this video
9:26 Geno confirmed for smash
Before I start the video
How many times did Italy switch sides
PuNcH BoI Not once, like always.
Gabriele Visentin the mod is broken
PuNcH BoI Nah, just historically accurate.
PuNcH BoI actually half Italy was loyal till the end and surrended when the Germans did, meanwhile what actually happen in ww1 was that Austria-Hungary broke the treaty of the triple Alliance by unilaterally attacking Serbia (see art. 1 and art. 7 of the treaty, it was allowed only by mutual accord) so Italy and Austria were no more allies since 28/7/1914. It remained the question of the compensation (se art. 7 again, even the german mediators considered the position of Austria-Hungary unreasonable on that point) and over that, war was declared to Austria-Hungary on 23/5/1915. so we can say that Italy "switched side" because Austria betrayed them.
0:01 what song?
The Spiderman Pizza Theme
Italy never owned Corsica as united Italy
Doesn't change the fact that Corsica is more simillar to Italy than France
Actually it did. As Rome, as Ostrogothic kingdom, and lotharian Italy.
@@leonardodavid2842 but not as united Italy
@@ejajafrozarb emh....
Roman republic, Ostrogothic kingdom and Lotharian Italy (also called kingdom of Italy)... obviously we need to distinguish them so we give them different names.
All three of them called themselves Italy (altough the Ostrogthic one very much wasn't) the Romans being the first in history (who coined the concept of Italy and Italic people)
@@leonardodavid2842 the Italian state was founded in 1861, the Roman empire is different from the modern Italy
has drew ever completed a game? or do these games never complete?
What if United States formed 332 years early?
You know I would love to see a probably multi part AI only mega campaign from CK2 to HOI4 with the use of game converters
9:11 looks like California is drunk too
Original_Mr_Pineapple Florida's on a nice vacation up north. No, not the rapper.
9:11
*Heh*
Drew: I'm going to reform Italy and its going to be so entertaining!
Game: Lets make Spain, Turkey, Morocco, Korea, and the Commonwealth have the best games they possibly could
Chef Drewardee
Goddammit he's back with
What if someone did something
_what if the Swedish Empire (at its greatest extent from 1658) had existed so early?_
That's not that much bigger.
**PewDiePie reaches 1 billion subscribers in 2019** :P
you should do Germany and Italy at the same time
What if Drew got to a 1 million subs before ISorrowproductions?
Spain did well in both the Germany and the Italy videos.
_Noice_
What if the Netherlands formed in 1444
9:16 ahh yes, the great canadia, amazing how drew didnt even commentate upon this amazing thing
Buys DLC, doesn't know it's features
That shows that he's a true fan of eu4
Do more of this
My favorite soyboy😍
The Best HoiSoiBoi
Drew Durnil cool video but when will you play Garfield 2004 for the ps2
What if 2018 happened in 2018😤😤🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
Ur name fuckin roxs😂
this man is a 20 dimensional being
It happened in 1440, though :P \ #AnnoHegira
Drew: I might be acting a little strange today
Me: even more than usual?
What if Japan unified 500 years earlier?
Hideki Tōjō +
Whom'st did you get that song from at the start of the video?? It's bugging me not to know.
0:06 what a liar!
Indeed
You should try Nation States
what if russia formed early
/soviet borders=()
2:02 what do those colours mean? new to EU4.
It means Poland leads the hre
Doesn't know what Anglicanism is...
Whats the song played at 0:00?
Same. Wish I knew.