Great video! That looks like it's doing better than my blower. I could change up, and go that route, using my other blower to make it forced air. You do realize that knitting is dangerous, don't you? You can get burned on those flying threads, and poke your eyes out with the needles! Keep 'em coming, Dude!
With these blowers being so cheap you could afford to keep spares! I always advise the safety sissys to use Rubber knitting Needles. Not everyone is the the tough wreckless kind like our grandmothers. Some people don't want to take the kind of life threatening risks they have so that is why the zealots always wear gloves and a face shield as well as long sleeves and steel capped boots while knitting. Remember, Safety Thrid!
I watched this again this afternoon while eating a salad. I was taking a full size bite when you said: (5-miles away).. My monitor now looks like a veggie garden... lol....
Steve 1961P. BWAHAHAHAHAH!!!I'm sorry about your monitor Steve but if you had been wearing a face mask to eat your Salad like I'm sure many would recommend, the shield would have caught the salad explosion and prevented your Monitor being Vegged. I hope you wore Gloves when handling the knife and fork or used Rubber ones. Remember, Safety Third!
Oil Burner I am quite careful to only use plastic forks and knives. However I did nearly gag on a spoon once, so I no longer use them. It makes eating soup kind of a bitch and it takes forever to eat it with a fork. I tried a straw once, but missed a small piece of that horrible sulifan wrapper and went through hell passing it, so I am stuck with a plastic fork. I just hate all these things we have to be so damned careful of!!
Oh man! I've been trying to find an affordable blower for my forge since the hair dryer ain't cutting it. Thanks for the tip! Remember folks, safety 3rd!
Bought this fan from eBay and connected the battery charger 6/12 volts makes it just right for small flame control not everyone using veggie oil wants to melt metal thanks again for your help
+Jakub Mędrek Yes, the safety sissy crybabies get too upset if you are not in your bunker 5 miles away wearing enough PPE so you can't walk any more. Remember, Safety Third!
we use a home ventilation blower, they are used in showers and all that. Works pretty well too, dirt cheap, and designed for mains power. So just put on a plug, plug it in and away you go.
No fire truck in case your pile of wood catches fire?..lol Nice video..I just looked through the others to get a little inspiration for my combination burner I plan to build. It will run on a broad variety of fuels gas or liquid.
I've found using a automotive heater/defroster blower motor works good Their really quite, and with a reho-stat you can control it to 3 speeds and it's only 12 volts on a automotive battery.
I agree with the natural selection idea. Since that one can make the end of a rod glow red, could you make one as a forge? It certainly gets hot enough, and your bigger burners can outright melt the steel, so... Please, a veg oil powered forge, sir.
Excellent narrative, especially while addressing the 'safety issues'! And good catch on describing the 'safety ---- people'! My kind of set up! So from your remote control instruments safely installed in your bunker, what do they say about oils consumption rate?
For the waste oil/Wood Fireplace hybrid i'm building I am using a Car interior blower. Figure since I just blew up my Toyota Camry's Transmission (Purchased car for 300 bucks) I might as well strip down any useful fun stuff!
yeah I have used one of those on some of my other burners but haven't featured it. One I used was hopeless, the other one is great. Being toyotas always have good aircon. I'm tipping yours will be a good one.
Hey Oil Burner, chatted with you a few times before. Love the vids. So I'm considering getting a bounce house blower around 480 watts to power my burners. I'd like to know if you thought 480 watts (a bit under 1/2 HP) was going to be enough to get things cooking well? Your blower seems to be upwards of 1HP, I'd guess; but that's probably more than we truly need ...maybe I'm wrong? -I'll be curious to hear your thoughts on the matter.
+Christopher Moore (CreatingMoore) The 480W blowers are the mid size of the type and more than adequate for any practical application of the burners. For a furnace or a water heater, you'll be wanting to restrict the airflow rather than looking for more. A 480W blower will easily support 300KW of heat output and I can't think of any application that would want that let alone more. To put it in perspective, I have a swimming pool heater that came from an aquatic centre and heated the full size Olympic pool. It is rated at 200Kw. The biggest home furnace I have ever read of used less than 70 Kw and the guy was melting cast iron with that. :0)
+Oil Burner I'm using this for foundry work. I think you're going to love my new video I'll try to post it to youtube tonight. It's a hybrid of some stuff you inspired me with (300KW / 600KW) burners to melt large nasty objects and stuff I have been doing for years with regular foundry work in crucibles. Add a bit of creativity into the mix and I have a really cool idea that I'm excited to unveil. I think it will be a smash hit with guys like us for MANY reasons. You'll see what I mean and all the possibilities will boggle your mind. I'm actually excited to see further improvements on my idea since this is nothing more than a rough prototype. -The Mark 1 version if you will... Right now I'm using a little R/C ducted fan DC motor. They use these things on RC Jets and they scream. This has worked well for me over the past 2 months but I have not done a LOT of runs with it. I'm afraid it will die as soon as I try to push it hard and do many hours of melting. Hence why I'm looking for a better (continuous run-time) blower like the bounce house blowers. The cool part of this blower I have now though, is full control of the range. It's a brushless DC motor so it's built to vary speed constantly. The AC blowers can be varied with a pulse modulator, but it's a bit twitchy and often it will cause the motors to surge and change speed without me touching things. -That part, no one likes! So anyway yes I do need higher output and I'm thinking 300KW will be plenty for all that I want to do. You have confirmed what I was hoping to find so thank you. Let me know what you think of my video when it's posted ...hopefully tonight. I think you'll love it.
Christopher Moore I look forward to seeing this! I have been thinking of an RC Ducted fan motor because they have pretty high pressure outputs up to about 1 Lb which is good for a fan. I don't know about the run time but it can't be too bad if they use them in the planes. I bought a PW controller and didn't like the way they made the motor sound. For regulation I use the very Hitech system of a bit of cardboard over the intake moved about to give the airflow I want. People crap on about this overheating the motor but it is a load of bull. I tested the motors and they use LESS current this way so clearly are not going to overheat and haven't in practice. If you are shooting for 300Kw you are going to have to pay attention to oil flow. I recommend going to a 1/2" fuel line and putting 2 Lb+ on a bottom outlet oil tank, more pressure if you have a tank that will take it. 300KW is 500ml min so a decent flow to keep up with on oil. A 1/2" gate valve will do for regulation as you just need to control it a bit at start up and it will run nearly wide open flat out. You can also control the tank pressure for the output but by having the tank pressurised you don't have to worry about falling fuel levels. You can use a pump as well but I haven't come across anything economical that will do the output.
it's either strained or settled to get the big chunks and dead rats out but not filtered to a specific as such. No need as there are no small openings anywhere to block. I mainly use and prefer Used veg oil but any flammable oil will do.
Diagram? It's a piece of 90o bent pipe into an extinguisher or gas bottle with the top cut off. I could not imagine it being any more straightforward. Have a look at my other vids featuring the same burner setup like grannys chamber pot vid.
You say you use a "drip system", so I assume you have a gravity feed (a drum or bucket higher than the outlet). How big is your tube and what sort of flow rate do you allow to run say with this blower fan, acknowledging that you "adjust accordingly" and are observing from a bunker. I also realize it probably varies on the thickness of the oil and temperature. Just trying to work out a parts list.
Hi oil burner I built a burner from a gas Cylinder ·and a bouncy castle blower but having problems with it back firing and I dont seem to be able too get the heat up and I was wondering if you could help me out? Regards Vinmiser
Do you find funneling the air supply from 3 inch to 1 1/2 inch to be more effective with a gradual long reduction instead of a short direct adapter? I converted a rocket stove to run off oil but I'm still getting smoke. It could be a number of reasons, from possibly, the burn chamber is running too cool, not enough air flow, really dirty oil, or my 2nd stage heat exchanger isn't allowing proper air flow. But thanks for your quick reply to an old post!
The BIGGEST factor is the PRESSURE the blower is capeable of doing rather than the volume. A fan will move a lot of air but has no pressure to push said air down pipes. A blower generally has more pressure and will work better through tubes etc. If the pressure is low the duct has to be large to accomodate. Think of compressed air, you can get a good airflow through a tiny pipe. Running too cool can be not enough airflow to fan the fire up enough to get the required retained heat or it can be too much airflow( not enough fuel) and over cooling the fuel or the burn chamber. Dirty oil makes no difference, Wet oil if you are using veg particularly is a problem and can take away a lot of energy. If you have a HE in the exhaust gasses it will carbon up REAL quick if the fire isn't hot and clean. Check that isn't affecting airflow because if it can't get out, it won't go in and, the outlet need to be larger than the inlet generally because the hot gasses will have expanded the air going in and need more flow to get out. With my burners I always have the outlet now larger than the inlet by design for this reason. Saves back pressure on the blower and allows for better airflow. More air will burn more fuel gives more heat at full tilt.
@@glumpy10 Thank you again for the quick reply. Yes I think my burner has a few problems, like the first one is my exhaust pipe is 4 inches and my intake chamber is 6 inches. The unit seems to work really well when I get the oil flow adjusted correctly. Right now I'm using a shut off ball valve and a needle valve to control the flow. I've filtered the oil using a sponge mat but I think the needle valve is still problematic when being gravity fed so, I'm converting to open drip feed into a funnel. I think I will try your squirrel cage funnel burn and see if that gives me a cleaner burn with a voltage limiter to adjust the air flow. Thanks again mate! Cheers!
hahahahahahaha Dave your getting cautious in your old age, only 5 miles away lol ;-) Another brilliant episode. Whats the oil consumption using that blower, any difference to the car 12v blower?
Didn't measure consumption Dave. Didn't think of it. The Bilge blower is definitely less powerful than the car blower though. That said, I think it really needs at least 2.5" pipe into the burner so it doesn't restrict it and gives it proper airflow.
OB, how long do you think you get out of the round metal plate at the outlet of the blower pipe? I think you have shown us before what you made another one of, but my memory is a mess from reading too many of those SAFETY TIPS and RULES all my life! Toward the end when you have it turned way down, it looks like about what I need for my pool heater project. Sure wish I could find the time and weather to get back on that!!
Steve 1961P. The metal plate is kept cool by the incoming airstream. Mine certainly shows no signs of deterioration and I don't think it ever would. I expect it would last a very long time but you could also use a bit of stainless and that would guarantee it would be the most resilient part of the whole burner. The pool heater is a priority goal for me atm as well. Only been going to get a Round Tuit for about 10 years so I think it's due.
Hi my aussy friend . I like to ask a question is possible to use one oil burner for wood fired oven . If you can give some ideas please . Thank you mate .
I put one in my wood fired oven, works quite well as you are trapping the heat which makes the oil burn well. I only use veg oil when heating anything to do with cooking to keep any contaminants away that might be in other oils. Have a look at the rest of my vids for ideas. Lots of ways you can go about heating an oven with oil.
Love your videos. Curious, would this blower be sufficient enough to melt ammunition brass and aluminum? I reload ammunition, and would like to melt my unusable brass and aluminum casings into bricks. They get better prices at scrap.
I've just come across your video's.. I love them, especially the humor about the safety bullshit...LMAO Would there be any way this could work without an air compressor ? The reason I ask is this would be a great option for off grid heating. Thanks for sharing your video's, Great work Mate. Neal
So i got this blower, and made a burner with a delvan adapter and a 0.75gph adapter. Got the problem the damn thing wont burn properly as it is and adding the blower just kills it right out. =) using a 74mm pipe for burner tube. - so guessing it can be to large as well.
Moronicsmurf So if the nozzle won't work on it's own its clearly not the blower you need to be looking at. Sorry, can't help you with nozzle setups, I don't use them. The simple drip systems I use are virtually no cost, very simple, only need a blower to work, are easy to fire up and run and produce all the heat you want. Nearly everyone I read of that has used a Nozzle, particularly the siphon kind, has problems with them. You would think if you spend $50+ on something it would work and work easily but that doesn't seem to be the case at all. Have a look at my other vids for how to build a simple and cheap burner that will fire up easily and trouble free.
yeah i have to agree with you. I got it to work today. And the main thing was that it cant burn in the "free air" so i needed to direct the flame into a container, its reaaaally sensitive to sidewind. When i then put the fan into it just split the flame up made it wider. So i think im gonna do a second burner more your tradition. Just need to find a suitable vessel for that.
Moronicsmurf What do you want the burner to do? The application will help dictate the setup and the vessel you use. Old Gas bottles and fire extinguishers are good but there are other things you can use depending on how you want to put the heat to work.
+Oil Burner oh sorry didnt see this response until i rewatched your video.. Im trying to melt cast iron basicly or create cast iron from steel. And im also looking into making steel ingots for black smithing.
for comparison, what are the cfm of your 'regular' AC blowers? Is there a relation of gpm of oil and needed blower CFM? or is one of the just "as much as you can get"? thanks
+Yves Baggi Hi Yves, Unfortunately none of my other blowers are marked with their CFM and I have no way to measure them. The big silver blower is by far the most powerful and has a half HP motor. The big Jumping castle blower has a 1 Hp motor but is not as powerful air wise. I think that's because the silver AC blower has a proper Curved blade Turbine like impeller where as the jumping castle blowers are just cheap pressed straight-bent blades and no where near as efficient. There is definitely a ration of air to fuel. I don't know what that is in figurative terms, but there is definitely an air to fuel ratio that needs to be worked in. It's a fairly broad ratio but definable too little or too much air causes problems. Too little is smoke and a lazy fire, too much and the burner over cools, blows white smoke and will go out. That said, you can get a fairly broad output on the same air input by adjusting fuel and I have shown this on several vids but for best results, you need to " Tune" the air and fuel together. It's not touchy, but you can tell when you are in the right area.
+Oil Burner I have this squirrel cage blower used for blowing up matresses and stuff, lots of cfm! it says 30 minutes max conescutive operating time, safety sissy or a real hazard for the motor?
Joep Stuyfzand Well I certainly wouldn't dismiss it out of hand. there is probably a tolerance in there but no doubt the thing could get hot with sustained use. Usually motors have a heat rise rating that should not be exceeded. If you are in a cold climate where there is snow, you'd obviously get a lot more run time and may be able to go indefinitely than what you would if you are where I am in summer and it's 40C. Most motors I have seen have a heat rise of about 80C so it wouldn't take much to exceed that with summer temps where I am but may never get close in an environment where it's snowing. I'd also guess that the fan has an efficiency curve. That would be how loaded the motor is at different airflow's and back pressures. i'd suggest run the thing and keep a close eye on it the first few times and see how you go. If it gets too hot shut it down and if it stays cool that you can keep your hand on it than you know it's OK. I have seen a lot of car vent blowers that actually duct a small tube carrying the pressurised air back to the brushes and armature in the motor to keep it cool in the critical areas.
Oil Burner Thank you. I am thinking about buying a motor, untill then we are using the 30max motor. What would you recommend? We run charcoal and in the future waste oil, so something controlable would be nice. I heard that controlling the intake is bad for the motor due to less air for cooling?
-I- think compressed air is a waste of energy, resources and money. Blowers are cheaper, quieter, supply more air and use less power. A blower can make far more heat power than a compressed air setup and if done right can be just as controllable.
@@glumpy10 Good to know! Have you burned 100% synthetic oil? Any drawbacks to that? What about Mixed Oil, a cocktail of many weights synthetic and organic ... is the flame unpredictable or does it all blend well once the burner heats up and gets going?
@@KarasCyborg I have not burned any Synthetic that I know Of. My main fuel is veg oil. I have burned mixed oil from large drums and it all burns the same. Engine oil, Gearbox oil, transmission oil. As long as it's mineral oil, ( which Synthetic is, only the additives are Synth). it all blends. I have used Veg oil with engine oil and have read it will separate over time but just needs a stir/ shake to blend it again. I have had no trouble myself. Little bit of Diesel helps everything blend together.
Copper tube has little surface area and is hard to direct the heat at efficiently. See if you can get an old gas spa heater or even a gas hot water system and replace the burner with an oil fired one.
Well I have been giving considerable thought to a Jet like Burner if not a rocket type. I have found a viable low (1Lb) pressure blower for a motor jet but I'd like to find something with a Higher pressure. Spose for a rocket I could always mix some oil with LOX. Anything becomes rocket fuel with LOX! :0)
Oh wow that would be perfect for us in Canada, the business end of a porta potty, the flames would burn up the crap and heat the poo house nicely to boot eh !
I was recently reading of someone Building an RV that had an electric incinerating Toilet! Never heard of such a thing and at first thought it was a joke but apparently they are becoming popular in Europe. Thing used a stupid amount of power and this guy was trying to build in a n over the top amount of generation and batteries into his camper to run the thing. From memory he said it was about $5k euro as well. For a Shitter! I'd wanted it gold plated and the Current miss world to wipe my backside when I finished for that sort of money!
You can pick up a bilge blower on eBay labeled as an "electric supercharger" or "electric turbo". These do NOT work with cars and these companies are scamming people, but it should be fine for this lol
Increasing the air flow reduces carbon monoxide production. That's a good thing. But heating a space with an open flame might produce excessive amount of carbon monoxide over time. Oh, I forget, you don't care about things like that. Good luck to you!
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I am talking to you from 9 years in the future and 5 miles away behind blast shields and layers of velcro...Thank you for the pump idea.
Outstanding public service as usual, thanks.
Great video! That looks like it's doing better than my blower. I could change up, and go that route, using my other blower to make it forced air.
You do realize that knitting is dangerous, don't you? You can get burned on those flying threads, and poke your eyes out with the needles!
Keep 'em coming, Dude!
With these blowers being so cheap you could afford to keep spares!
I always advise the safety sissys to use Rubber knitting Needles. Not everyone is the the tough wreckless kind like our grandmothers. Some people don't want to take the kind of life threatening risks they have so that is why the zealots always wear gloves and a face shield as well as long sleeves and steel capped boots while knitting.
Remember, Safety Thrid!
Mighta been 7 yrs but the video is cool as always.If ya read it Merry Christmas
the health & safety tips are well received, it cheered me up today, many thanks
Hey mate, you forgot your saftey goggles! It's a bloody wonder you didn't burn your eye's out...
Well done👍😎
I watched this again this afternoon while eating a salad. I was taking a full size bite when you said: (5-miles away).. My monitor now looks like a veggie garden... lol....
Steve 1961P. BWAHAHAHAHAH!!!I'm sorry about your monitor Steve but if you had been wearing a face mask to eat your Salad like I'm sure many would recommend, the shield would have caught the salad explosion and prevented your Monitor being Vegged. I hope you wore Gloves when handling the knife and fork or used Rubber ones. Remember, Safety Third!
Oil Burner I am quite careful to only use plastic forks and knives. However I did nearly gag on a spoon once, so I no longer use them. It makes eating soup kind of a bitch and it takes forever to eat it with a fork. I tried a straw once, but missed a small piece of that horrible sulifan wrapper and went through hell passing it, so I am stuck with a plastic fork. I just hate all these things we have to be so damned careful of!!
4:38 ...from 5 miles away in a bomb proof bunker, with an emergency crew standing by :)
Safety first... I love it!
+Energy Fabricator Anything to stop being driven up the wall by moronic and idiotic safety sissy comments!
Safety Third ! ;)
at 5 miles away, even the safety sissies might be able to dispense with the ear defenders .... but only just !
Man I love the 'Piss off safety nuts' message at some point during almost every video!
Keep it up!
more like every two words every video lol, SAFETY SISSY'SSS!!!!!
Oh man! I've been trying to find an affordable blower for my forge since the hair dryer ain't cutting it. Thanks for the tip! Remember folks, safety 3rd!
Bought this fan from eBay and connected the battery charger 6/12 volts makes it just right for small flame control not everyone using veggie oil wants to melt metal thanks again for your help
U R Awesome bro. I love your comments about safety ;) bombproof bunker is really necessary
+Jakub Mędrek Yes, the safety sissy crybabies get too upset if you are not in your bunker 5 miles away wearing enough PPE so you can't walk any more. Remember, Safety Third!
we use a home ventilation blower, they are used in showers and all that. Works pretty well too, dirt cheap, and designed for mains power. So just put on a plug, plug it in and away you go.
bob rosco, nice
SAFETY SISSY'S!!!!!!! YOU GOT TO POUR GAS ALL OVER IT *English accent*
Oh good point about interfering with natural selection :)
Love the bomb proof bunker. Thank's for sharing , the video's are great. Eddy Taylor
G'day Oil Burner You missed mentioning that you use Safety Matches
Good on ya !
No fire truck in case your pile of wood catches fire?..lol
Nice video..I just looked through the others to get a little inspiration for my combination burner I plan to build. It will run on a broad variety of fuels gas or liquid.
This lad it the real Russell coight
I've found using a automotive heater/defroster blower motor works good
Their really quite, and with a reho-stat you can control it to 3 speeds and it's only 12 volts on a automotive battery.
Loved this video
"five miles away" hahaha
All part of my "Safety zealot pacification Policy"
REMEMBER: SAFETY THIRD!
Thanks for the information using bilge fan for a smaller flame wonder how much smaller I can get the flame by blocking the air for pottery kiln
Thank you for the answer . And if could ask another favour , can you do a video for wood fired ovens , very appreciated . Thanks
How to build a wood fired oven or a burner for one?
I agree with the natural selection idea.
Since that one can make the end of a rod glow red, could you make one as a forge? It certainly gets hot enough, and your bigger burners can outright melt the steel, so... Please, a veg oil powered forge, sir.
Give me this model... How can I make one so that I can benefit from it? What do you advise me?❤
Excellent narrative, especially while addressing the 'safety issues'! And good catch on describing the 'safety ---- people'! My kind of set up!
So from your remote control instruments safely installed in your bunker, what do they say about oils consumption rate?
ha ha haaaa funny fella ! keep em comin skip
cheers
I'll try!
I'm interested to see how small you can scale this before it stops working.
Flame or physical burner size?
physical burner size. if it could all fit in a 30x30x30 cube that'd be awesome for a water heater. A water jacket could help reduce the size maybe
That blower if running free (i.e. no back pressure) should have a 100% duty cycle.
hahaha that was funny.please tell me ya had ya fireproof thongs on too
If you stop the oil and air. Will it stay hot enough to re-ignite or would you have to use some woof wood (petrol) to restart it.
For the waste oil/Wood Fireplace hybrid i'm building I am using a Car interior blower. Figure since I just blew up my Toyota Camry's Transmission (Purchased car for 300 bucks) I might as well strip down any useful fun stuff!
yeah I have used one of those on some of my other burners but haven't featured it. One I used was hopeless, the other one is great. Being toyotas always have good aircon. I'm tipping yours will be a good one.
Yeah I hope that's the case. She was pumping good cfm when I parked it the other day
Is that Al Gore approved too?
Hey Oil Burner, chatted with you a few times before. Love the vids. So I'm considering getting a bounce house blower around 480 watts to power my burners. I'd like to know if you thought 480 watts (a bit under 1/2 HP) was going to be enough to get things cooking well? Your blower seems to be upwards of 1HP, I'd guess; but that's probably more than we truly need ...maybe I'm wrong? -I'll be curious to hear your thoughts on the matter.
+Christopher Moore (CreatingMoore) The 480W blowers are the mid size of the type and more than adequate for any practical application of the burners. For a furnace or a water heater, you'll be wanting to restrict the airflow rather than looking for more. A 480W blower will easily support 300KW of heat output and I can't think of any application that would want that let alone more. To put it in perspective, I have a swimming pool heater that came from an aquatic centre and heated the full size Olympic pool.
It is rated at 200Kw. The biggest home furnace I have ever read of used less than 70 Kw and the guy was melting cast iron with that. :0)
+Oil Burner I'm using this for foundry work. I think you're going to love my new video I'll try to post it to youtube tonight. It's a hybrid of some stuff you inspired me with (300KW / 600KW) burners to melt large nasty objects and stuff I have been doing for years with regular foundry work in crucibles. Add a bit of creativity into the mix and I have a really cool idea that I'm excited to unveil. I think it will be a smash hit with guys like us for MANY reasons. You'll see what I mean and all the possibilities will boggle your mind. I'm actually excited to see further improvements on my idea since this is nothing more than a rough prototype. -The Mark 1 version if you will...
Right now I'm using a little R/C ducted fan DC motor. They use these things on RC Jets and they scream. This has worked well for me over the past 2 months but I have not done a LOT of runs with it. I'm afraid it will die as soon as I try to push it hard and do many hours of melting. Hence why I'm looking for a better (continuous run-time) blower like the bounce house blowers. The cool part of this blower I have now though, is full control of the range. It's a brushless DC motor so it's built to vary speed constantly. The AC blowers can be varied with a pulse modulator, but it's a bit twitchy and often it will cause the motors to surge and change speed without me touching things. -That part, no one likes! So anyway yes I do need higher output and I'm thinking 300KW will be plenty for all that I want to do. You have confirmed what I was hoping to find so thank you.
Let me know what you think of my video when it's posted ...hopefully tonight. I think you'll love it.
Christopher Moore
I look forward to seeing this! I have been thinking of an RC Ducted fan motor because they have pretty high pressure outputs up to about 1 Lb which is good for a fan.
I don't know about the run time but it can't be too bad if they use them in the planes.
I bought a PW controller and didn't like the way they made the motor sound. For regulation I use the very Hitech system of a bit of cardboard over the intake moved about to give the airflow I want. People crap on about this overheating the motor but it is a load of bull. I tested the motors and they use LESS current this way so clearly are not going to overheat and haven't in practice.
If you are shooting for 300Kw you are going to have to pay attention to oil flow. I recommend going to a 1/2" fuel line and putting 2 Lb+ on a bottom outlet oil tank, more pressure if you have a tank that will take it. 300KW is 500ml min so a decent flow to keep up with on oil.
A 1/2" gate valve will do for regulation as you just need to control it a bit at start up and it will run nearly wide open flat out. You can also control the tank pressure for the output but by having the tank pressurised you don't have to worry about falling fuel levels.
You can use a pump as well but I haven't come across anything economical that will do the output.
+Oil Burner OK My new video is finally posted. Sorry it took me a while to post!
Are you filtering this oil? Is it waste automotive or vegetable based?
it's either strained or settled to get the big chunks and dead rats out but not filtered to a specific as such. No need as there are no small openings anywhere to block. I mainly use and prefer Used veg oil but any flammable oil will do.
That's today's fix of pyroporn, if these pumps are a standard on boats I figure with an oil feed you could heat a yacht extremely quickly.
I could ask my brother in law if I could test it on his boat but I don't think he'll be too keen on the idea. Can't begin to think why though!
Awesome! Is there any chance to see the diagram of this burner? (I am not asking for measures).
Diagram? It's a piece of 90o bent pipe into an extinguisher or gas bottle with the top cut off.
I could not imagine it being any more straightforward. Have a look at my other vids featuring the same burner setup like grannys chamber pot vid.
so the oil drips inside the tube just after the blower?
Correct!
Thanks for the reply, greetings from Peru.
Is the bilge pump continuos duty? Nice burner by the way .
I believe so.
I ran it for 14 hours straight and it still works just the same! :0)
You say you use a "drip system", so I assume you have a gravity feed (a drum or bucket higher than the outlet). How big is your tube and what sort of flow rate do you allow to run say with this blower fan, acknowledging that you "adjust accordingly" and are observing from a bunker. I also realize it probably varies on the thickness of the oil and temperature. Just trying to work out a parts list.
Yep,sure is a drip system ,just chuck in a coupla safety nuts and it burns for feckn hours!!!!
Hi oil burner I built a burner from a gas Cylinder ·and a bouncy castle blower but having problems with it back firing and I dont seem to be able too get the heat up and I was wondering if you could help me out?
Regards
Vinmiser
Your mad ..lol I love this channel..the best on the tube..can you melt brass in these burners ?
Do you find funneling the air supply from 3 inch to 1 1/2 inch to be more effective with a gradual long reduction instead of a short direct adapter? I converted a rocket stove to run off oil but I'm still getting smoke. It could be a number of reasons, from possibly, the burn chamber is running too cool, not enough air flow, really dirty oil, or my 2nd stage heat exchanger isn't allowing proper air flow. But thanks for your quick reply to an old post!
The BIGGEST factor is the PRESSURE the blower is capeable of doing rather than the volume. A fan will move a lot of air but has no pressure to push said air down pipes. A blower generally has more pressure and will work better through tubes etc. If the pressure is low the duct has to be large to accomodate. Think of compressed air, you can get a good airflow through a tiny pipe.
Running too cool can be not enough airflow to fan the fire up enough to get the required retained heat or it can be too much airflow( not enough fuel) and over cooling the fuel or the burn chamber. Dirty oil makes no difference, Wet oil if you are using veg particularly is a problem and can take away a lot of energy.
If you have a HE in the exhaust gasses it will carbon up REAL quick if the fire isn't hot and clean. Check that isn't affecting airflow because if it can't get out, it won't go in and, the outlet need to be larger than the inlet generally because the hot gasses will have expanded the air going in and need more flow to get out.
With my burners I always have the outlet now larger than the inlet by design for this reason. Saves back pressure on the blower and allows for better airflow. More air will burn more fuel gives more heat at full tilt.
@@glumpy10 Thank you again for the quick reply. Yes I think my burner has a few problems, like the first one is my exhaust pipe is 4 inches and my intake chamber is 6 inches. The unit seems to work really well when I get the oil flow adjusted correctly. Right now I'm using a shut off ball valve and a needle valve to control the flow. I've filtered the oil using a sponge mat but I think the needle valve is still problematic when being gravity fed so, I'm converting to open drip feed into a funnel. I think I will try your squirrel cage funnel burn and see if that gives me a cleaner burn with a voltage limiter to adjust the air flow. Thanks again mate! Cheers!
hahahahahahaha Dave your getting cautious in your old age, only 5 miles away lol ;-) Another brilliant episode. Whats the oil consumption using that blower, any difference to the car 12v blower?
Didn't measure consumption Dave. Didn't think of it. The Bilge blower is definitely less powerful than the car blower though.
That said, I think it really needs at least 2.5" pipe into the burner so it doesn't restrict it and gives it proper airflow.
Oil Burner consumption can be measured by weight with the same scale filched from the house. Just in case you wanna try that.
gmwwc
No real need. Volume is a good enough measurement for what I need to Know.
very nice. how long will this blower run continually ?
Till the oil or electricity for the blower run out.
The blower itself is continuous rated.
OB, how long do you think you get out of the round metal plate at the outlet of the blower pipe? I think you have shown us before what you made another one of, but my memory is a mess from reading too many of those SAFETY TIPS and RULES all my life!
Toward the end when you have it turned way down, it looks like about what I need for my pool heater project. Sure wish I could find the time and weather to get back on that!!
Steve 1961P. The metal plate is kept cool by the incoming airstream. Mine certainly shows no signs of deterioration and I don't think it ever would. I expect it would last a very long time but you could also use a bit of stainless and that would guarantee it would be the most resilient part of the whole burner. The pool heater is a priority goal for me atm as well. Only been going to get a Round Tuit for about 10 years so I think it's due.
Oil Burner Hahahahahahaaa... It's been 5 years for me, so I think you'll finish before I do.
what would hapen if you had the oil under pressure say 20 psi to go with the blower please
Hi my aussy friend .
I like to ask a question is possible to use one oil burner for wood fired oven .
If you can give some ideas please . Thank you mate .
I put one in my wood fired oven, works quite well as you are trapping the heat which makes the oil burn well. I only use veg oil when heating anything to do with cooking to keep any contaminants away that might be in other oils. Have a look at the rest of my vids for ideas. Lots of ways you can go about heating an oven with oil.
Love your videos.
Curious, would this blower be sufficient enough to melt ammunition brass and aluminum? I reload ammunition, and would like to melt my unusable brass and aluminum casings into bricks. They get better prices at scrap.
Yep, no problem at all.
I'd recommend you build some sort of a furnace for the burner but you would have no trouble melting either of those.
I've just come across your video's.. I love them, especially the humor about the safety bullshit...LMAO
Would there be any way this could work without an air compressor ? The reason I ask is this would be a great option for off grid heating.
Thanks for sharing your video's, Great work Mate.
Neal
+hydrofuelincanada There is no air compressor on this, only the 12V blower.
Oh Cool. You have given me a bunch of ideas.... Thank you
So i got this blower, and made a burner with a delvan adapter and a 0.75gph adapter. Got the problem the damn thing wont burn properly as it is and adding the blower just kills it right out. =)
using a 74mm pipe for burner tube. - so guessing it can be to large as well.
Moronicsmurf So if the nozzle won't work on it's own its clearly not the blower you need to be looking at. Sorry, can't help you with nozzle setups, I don't use them. The simple drip systems I use are virtually no cost, very simple, only need a blower to work, are easy to fire up and run and produce all the heat you want. Nearly everyone I read of that has used a Nozzle, particularly the siphon kind, has problems with them. You would think if you spend $50+ on something it would work and work easily but that doesn't seem to be the case at all.
Have a look at my other vids for how to build a simple and cheap burner that will fire up easily and trouble free.
yeah i have to agree with you. I got it to work today. And the main thing was that it cant burn in the "free air" so i needed to direct the flame into a container, its reaaaally sensitive to sidewind. When i then put the fan into it just split the flame up made it wider. So i think im gonna do a second burner more your tradition. Just need to find a suitable vessel for that.
Moronicsmurf
What do you want the burner to do?
The application will help dictate the setup and the vessel you use. Old Gas bottles and fire extinguishers are good but there are other things you can use depending on how you want to put the heat to work.
+Oil Burner oh sorry didnt see this response until i rewatched your video.. Im trying to melt cast iron basicly or create cast iron from steel. And im also looking into making steel ingots for black smithing.
for comparison, what are the cfm of your 'regular' AC blowers?
Is there a relation of gpm of oil and needed blower CFM?
or is one of the just "as much as you can get"?
thanks
+Yves Baggi Hi Yves, Unfortunately none of my other blowers are marked with their CFM and I have no way to measure them. The big silver blower is by far the most powerful and has a half HP motor. The big Jumping castle blower has a 1 Hp motor but is not as powerful air wise. I think that's because the silver AC blower has a proper Curved blade Turbine like impeller where as the jumping castle blowers are just cheap pressed straight-bent blades and no where near as efficient.
There is definitely a ration of air to fuel. I don't know what that is in figurative terms, but there is definitely an air to fuel ratio that needs to be worked in. It's a fairly broad ratio but definable too little or too much air causes problems. Too little is smoke and a lazy fire, too much and the burner over cools, blows white smoke and will go out.
That said, you can get a fairly broad output on the same air input by adjusting fuel and I have shown this on several vids but for best results, you need to " Tune" the air and fuel together. It's not touchy, but you can tell when you are in the right area.
+Oil Burner I have this squirrel cage blower used for blowing up matresses and stuff, lots of cfm!
it says 30 minutes max conescutive operating time, safety sissy or a real hazard for the motor?
Joep Stuyfzand
Well I certainly wouldn't dismiss it out of hand. there is probably a tolerance in there but no doubt the thing could get hot with sustained use. Usually motors have a heat rise rating that should not be exceeded. If you are in a cold climate where there is snow, you'd obviously get a lot more run time and may be able to go indefinitely than what you would if you are where I am in summer and it's 40C. Most motors I have seen have a heat rise of about 80C so it wouldn't take much to exceed that with summer temps where I am but may never get close in an environment where it's snowing.
I'd also guess that the fan has an efficiency curve. That would be how loaded the motor is at different airflow's and back pressures.
i'd suggest run the thing and keep a close eye on it the first few times and see how you go. If it gets too hot shut it down and if it stays cool that you can keep your hand on it than you know it's OK.
I have seen a lot of car vent blowers that actually duct a small tube carrying the pressurised air back to the brushes and armature in the motor to keep it cool in the critical areas.
Oil Burner Thank you.
I am thinking about buying a motor, untill then we are using the 30max motor.
What would you recommend?
We run charcoal and in the future waste oil, so something controlable would be nice.
I heard that controlling the intake is bad for the motor due to less air for cooling?
No reflective belt?
What do you think about using Compressed air vs a Blower?
-I- think compressed air is a waste of energy, resources and money. Blowers are cheaper, quieter, supply more air and use less power. A blower can make far more heat power than a compressed air setup and if done right can be just as controllable.
@@glumpy10 Good to know! Have you burned 100% synthetic oil? Any drawbacks to that? What about Mixed Oil, a cocktail of many weights synthetic and organic ... is the flame unpredictable or does it all blend well once the burner heats up and gets going?
@@KarasCyborg I have not burned any Synthetic that I know Of. My main fuel is veg oil. I have burned mixed oil from large drums and it all burns the same. Engine oil, Gearbox oil, transmission oil. As long as it's mineral oil, ( which Synthetic is, only the additives are Synth). it all blends. I have used Veg oil with engine oil and have read it will separate over time but just needs a stir/ shake to blend it again. I have had no trouble myself. Little bit of Diesel helps everything blend together.
@@glumpy10 Would the be any reason as to why you wouldn't want the oil burner permanently connected/piped to a drum to melt the alum. for simplicity?
@@KarasCyborg No, Not that I'm aware of. I don't do it because I use the same burners for multiple applications for my Vids.
Please tell me calculation of 300kw waste oil burner and 75GPH nozzles with drawing
God video
Good video
How many W for the fan ? Thanks
there's no 'W' in 'Fan'
Mate you forgot the hi vizi vest!
AND THE LIL UZI VERT TEE SHIRT!!!!! ...................... SAFETY SISSY'EEESSSSS!!!!
you've got some long arms if you're five miles away haha
hi thanks for great info I need instant hot water.looking at inserting 3/4copper tube wrapped inside.any ideas 44 gallon drum.
cheers Dave
Copper tube has little surface area and is hard to direct the heat at efficiently. See if you can get an old gas spa heater or even a gas hot water system and replace the burner with an oil fired one.
A regular Werner von Braun you are. :)
Well I have been giving considerable thought to a Jet like Burner if not a rocket type.
I have found a viable low (1Lb) pressure blower for a motor jet but I'd like to find something with a Higher pressure.
Spose for a rocket I could always mix some oil with LOX. Anything becomes rocket fuel with LOX! :0)
Oil Burner
LOL. Possibly the blower off an old mercedes TD diesel might fill the high end range.
Love your videos. I used a cheap $15 bathroom exhaust fan. RUclips won't let paste a video link but it's on my page if you want to see it.
Oh wow that would be perfect for us in Canada, the business end of a porta potty, the flames would burn up the crap and heat the poo house nicely to boot eh !
I was recently reading of someone Building an RV that had an electric incinerating Toilet! Never heard of such a thing and at first thought it was a joke but apparently they are becoming popular in Europe. Thing used a stupid amount of power and this guy was trying to build in a n over the top amount of generation and batteries into his camper to run the thing. From memory he said it was about $5k euro as well. For a Shitter!
I'd wanted it gold plated and the Current miss world to wipe my backside when I finished for that sort of money!
@@glumpy10 with your version, no wiping necessary ... brilliant !
Two prius owners didn't like this...
It don't get much safer than what you done....lol
Cracked me up with the bdsm recommendations for those smarmy safety sissies.
You can pick up a bilge blower on eBay labeled as an "electric supercharger" or "electric turbo". These do NOT work with cars and these companies are scamming people, but it should be fine for this lol
Are you sure 5 miles away was far enough? Lol
Increasing the air flow reduces carbon monoxide production. That's a good thing. But heating a space with an open flame might produce excessive amount of carbon monoxide over time. Oh, I forget, you don't care about things like that. Good luck to you!
I think 10 miles away would be better.
TUT TUT TUT... SHOULD OF WRAPPED THAT STEEL STICK WITH A CONDOM AT LEAST....
Jesus OB, all that BE DAMN CAREFUL gear and you forgot your jock strap!!
Doooh!
I knew there was something I had missed! Good job I was 5 miles away in my safety bunker doing it all by remote control!
Steel-toed boots, leather spats and chaps, along with apron.
YOU WANT VIEWS, I'D BE A VIEWER OF A WASTE OIL ROCKET STOVE. IT'S TARE ANYBOY HAD DONE A Y/T ON ONE.
No reflective belt?