as a high school student in NZ, i knew hardly anything to do with any of this. they dont teach us the important stuff, just that there was a “mistranslation that may or may not have been deliberate” and personally im fed up with only being taught the bare minimum of our own country’s history
In the 80's at school we learnt The Treaty was a good thing and everyone was happy to live as one because white people gave guns and blankets to struggling people in exchange for some land. The executions, land confiscation and other awful stuff was not mentioned at all. I know several people my age that grew up in NZ still don't know anymore than that. It's why it's so easy for the politicians to argue for "equal rights", because they can white wash everything just like was done at school and some people genuinely don't know better. Pretty awful most New Zealanders don't know the half of the awful history of our country. So sad 😢 I can only hope children now are learning a more impartial view and are more empathetic to the injustices done in the past.
IF THEY TEACH REAL NZ HISTORY THEY WOULD HAVE TO ADMIT THE BAD THINGS THEY DID THEY WOULD ALSO HAVE TO ADMIT TO BEING DEFEATED AND FORCED TO SIGN A TREATY. MAORI SIGNED WITH THE BRITISH CROWN NOT WITH THE NZ PEOPLE OR GOVERNMENT THEY CAME BECAUSE MAORI WANTED THE BRITISH TO CONTROL THEIR PEOPLE. ALL THE GOOD THINGS THAT KEEP THE GOVT IN CHECK ARE FROM MAORI AND THEIR SUPPORTERS
@@clairebarry8030my youngest sibling is learning that New Zealand only got the treaty because of fear that the French would claim us first, by that knowledge how I learned about the treaty in the mid 90s it’s like New Zealand was a useful military tactic.
as someone of ngāpuhi and someone who grew up in tai tokerau where all these events took place and their effects are still felt today, i appreciate a light being shined on the flagstaff war - it's a super important chapter in the history of ngāpuhi and tino rangatiratanga that often gets forgotten - but there's some pretty glaring omissions and mistakes in this video that need addressing: Te Tiriti and The Treaty of Waitangi: This is a debate that's still very hot in NZ politics today, so I'll give the cliff notes here and try not to inject my own opinion. There are two "versions" of Te Tiriti - the English document and the Reo Māori document. The reo Māori document promised "-ki ngā tāngata katoa o Nu Tirani te tino rangatiratanga o ō rātou whenua, ō rātou kainga me o rātou taonga katoa", which roughly translates as promising "to all the people of Nu Tirani (New Zealand, specifically Māori as outlined by He Whakaputanga) tino rangatiratanga (highest authority or soverignty) of their lands, their homes, and all their taonga (important treasures such as language, cultural practice, religions, etc.), and to the Queen of England "te Kawanatanga katoa o ō rātou whenua"; "All governership of [the rangatira's] lands". The english document, however, states "The Chiefs of the Confederation of the United Tribes of New Zealand [...] cede to Her Majesty the Queen of England absolutely and without reservation all the rights and powers of Sovereignty". I won't get further into the nitty gritty of this - whether the treaty was deliberately mistranslated or not, whether the rangatira who signed it were aware of the British interpretation, etc. - it's a complex issue that's currently in the spotlight of NZ politics, but it's important to note this difference, and also important to note that Te Tiriti - the reo Māori document - was the one most rangatira Māori signed; only 39 rangatira of about 500 signatories put their signature to the english document. Maketū's execution being the cause of the war: While it's a good framing device for a story, reducing the causes of the flagstaff war purely to Maketū's execution by the British is a bit reductive. Whilst important to Māori as a sign that they no longer held the power to practice tīkanga and that their mana was waning, it's more the straw that broke the camel's back than the main cause of war. Issues between the crown and Māori existed long before this incident - the capital being moved from Kororāreka and the Wairau affray are good examples of this. Unlawful selling of land was a major factor in strained Crown-Māori relationships - one that Te Tiriti was said to address, but ultimately would be exacerbated in the English version. Te Ruki Kawiti: While he gets only one mention in this video, Kawiti - a rangatira of Ngāpuhi - is just as important to the story of the flagstaff war as Hone Heke. One of the original dissenters of Te Tiriti at Waitangi - partly due to his dislike for Heke and partly due to fears of British deception due to his own land being unlawfully taken from him by a Paihia missionary - was one of the main engineers behind the modernisation of the pā (also known as "gunfighter pā") that would allow the anti-crown Māori to come out of the flagstaff war without a single military loss against the British. Kāwiti was a seasoned commander from the musket wars, and he'd seen firsthand the benefits and drawbacks of modernised warfare during his campaigns. There are some historians who even attribute Kawiti's design to contributing to the invention of trench warfare - veterans and military historians allegedly drew inspiration from the designs of Kawiti's pā in the latter half of the 19th century into the 20th century. The purpose of Ruapekapeka: Though I'm not sure if this is the video's intention, it feels like Ruapekapeka is wrongly implied as having strategic importance to anti-crown Māori.This isn't really true; Ruapekapeka was a purely military construction, aimed to bait Governor Grey into sending troops into unfavourable siege conditions to damage British morale and numbers, to then be abandoned when it had served its purpose. This was part of the design of the pā at Ōhaeawai, and there's even a short song written by British troops about this sort of strategy: "Sing a song of sixpence a tale about the war, Four and twenty n****rs cooped up in a pā, When the pā was opened not a n****r there was seen, Is not that a jolly tale to tell before the Queen?" Kūpapa: Though Kūpapa has now become a derogatory term within Te Ao Māori, Kūpapa - crown-allied Māori - played an important part in the flagstaff war as military advisors and soliders. Though their advice was often ignored, such as Governor Fitzroy insisting on charging the pā at Ōhaeawai against the warnings of Tāmiti Wāka Nene, their military role was important in the more forgotten about battles in the war, such as the battle of Te Ahuahu (which I'll touch on later). This also ties in to an idea that isn't in this video: Māori are not one whole unit, and neither is Ngāpuhi (and neither is any group of people, really). Tāmiti Wāka Nene joined forces with the British crown as he saw anti-crown Māori's rejection of British rule as an insult to his mana - he was a staunch advocate for the signing of Te Tiriti, and his considerable mana was a factor in getting a lot of rangatira to sign. The rejection of British governance was seen as an insult to this, and so he took up arms. Te Ahuahu: Due to the battle at Te Ahuahu being a purely Ngāpuhi vs. Ngāpuhi conflict, there's not a lot of written history about it, and I urge those watching to seek out info about it if they're interested, but it's a very important battle in the Flagstaff War, as it was the only one that was a clear defeat for anti-crown Māori, putting Hone Heke out of action with injuries for months on end, and forcing Kawiti to rethink his approach to the war, hence the battle at Ruapekapeka. The Flagstaff war being a Māori last chance: This is a pretty flawed interpretation of the history of tino rangatiratanga. The flagstaff war was the first of many crown-Māori wars in Aotearoa, with many other campaigns such as the Hutt Valley and Whanganui campaigns, the two Taranaki wars, the invasion of the Waikato, and Te Kooti's war (and that's not even a comprehensive list). Reducing the fate of Māori to the uncertain outcome of the Flagstaff war and the fate of Ngāpuhi is reductive both historically and culturally, and its important that people understand that the Flagstaff War is a chapter of the history of Te Tiriti, and not the whole story itself. Of course, none of this is to imply that this video was made with ill intentions. It's good to have discussions about these events so that people can be educated on the history of tino rangatiratanga and an introduction to the long-term causes of racial inequality in NZ. Thanks for making it, and I hope everyone watching and reading has learned something new about the ground under their feet and its whakapapa.
Mahi nui e hoa!! Boost this comment up friends, incredible & valuable knowledge, tēnā koe tēnā koutou ♥️ Thank you for your teaching, straight from the source! Learned a lot from this as Pakeha & appreciate your time to write this out, ka pai tō mahi!
Took a pause from work as soon as I saw the notification. We got to lift this channel up, the quality behind these videos (graphics, research, narration) is up there with the best of them.
Maori did not call NZ Aotearoa its the name of one of the islands of New Zealand as far as one tribe of many see it so this is factually incorrect. Also Maori ceded sovereignty to the queen via the Treaty of Waitangi as they wanted to trade under the British Flag at international ports and the queen guaranteed their rights and protected them as equal to British settlers in return for ceding sovereignty. on what planet does the queen of England protect other sovereigns? She protects her subjects. Everyone knows this and only 1.6% of the nation still play this game of "we didn't cede" because they are trying to grift money for settlement of the modern made up grievance. This is being pushed by the unhinged Maori Party but dispite what the name suggests only has support of 1 in 6 Maori - 5 in 6 Maori do not agree with this tripe. Read the writings of the most celebrated and intelligent Maori Apirana Ngata on this matter and get real facts. this channel is spreading miss information.
Hey! Resident of Aotearoa New Zealand here with a handy pronunciation guide for Te Reo Māori: A = cAr E = Egg I = frEE O = OAr U = trUE NG = thiNG WH = gaFF (this one is confusing, I understand) If you see an accent over a vowel, or a double vowel (ie Kākā or Kooti) simply elongate the sound. Te Reo Māori is really easy to learn once you know these basic rules, as it's one of the only languages in the world that's 100% phonetically consistent, meaning once you know how to pronounce all the letters, you can confidently pronounce every word in the Māori dictionary! I hope you enjoyed my fun little lesson about our beautiful corner of the world. Ka pai, kia kaha!
Te Reo is the Tainui dialect. It is absolutely not 100% phonetically consistent, and denies other dialects existence, going so far as to "officially" change the spelling and pronunciation of other iwi dialects: cf Wanganui to Whanganui. The iwi in that area did not use an "f" sound. The history of the written maori language (even the accents over vowels are extremely recent, and only came in to bully other iwi) is quite fascinating, right from its inception; the 'wh' sound is pronounced like whoosh in the central north island where the written language was created; phonetically, by a European settler. 'wh' as 'f' is a completely Tainui affectation, like certain english dialects dropping 'h' from the start of words, and for much the same reasons. Pronunciation is wildly different between south Auckland and Hamilton, for example. You just have to talk to the locals to know this. If you get your maori from Te Reo, you'd never know. I have a river view overlooking Turangawaewae. The yearly regatta is an awesome spectacle, btw.
@@elLooto Tried to simplify for a foreign audience and ended up using poor wording, my bad. What I meant was that every letter in standard written Te Reo is pronounced, and pronounced the same way every time. For example E is pronounced the same no matter where in the word it is, unlike in all European languages (that I'm familiar with, welcome to be corrected). I know in Greek the letter N can change based on the letters around it, and I know this is the case for slavic, SE Asian, Celtic, etc languages - I just don't know enough to give examples
I know you're just saying racist shit to get a rise (how boring your life must be that this is your entertainment), but in case you want to learn and begin to mend your bigoted ways, here's a fun fact: If you consider Te Reo Māori primitive (which, by the way, isn't a scientific term), you must also admit that English, which has been evolving in its modern form for about the same amount of time as Te Reo (English c.1000ad, Te Reo c.1300ad), is also a primitive language. "But what about Old English?" You say. What about old Māori? All languages evolved from an earlier version of themselves, that's how language works. There is no such thing as a primitive language because all naturally occurring languages have been evolving for the exact same amount of time. Also! If you think Te Reo is primitive, by god you must think Latin is only spoken by the dumbest of the dumb huh?
@@Donsomebody All natural languages are equal. If you only treat European languages as "civilised", then of course non-European language features will seem "primitive".
The whole time I was watching I assumed this was a super large channel with millions of subs. I did not expect this to only have 8.5k views. This is quality content! You deserve 1000x that!
@@JoeRogansForehead "copying" is a negative term to use, i would say more inspire; Because he using one that look similar but still educating people use it.
Maori did not call NZ Aotearoa its the name of one of the islands of New Zealand as far as one tribe of many see it so this is factually incorrect. Also Maori ceded sovereignty to the queen via the Treaty of Waitangi as they wanted to trade under the British Flag at international ports and the queen guaranteed their rights and protected them as equal to British settlers in return for ceding sovereignty. on what planet does the queen of England protect other sovereigns? She protects her subjects. Everyone knows this and only 1.6% of the nation still play this game of "we didn't cede" because they are trying to grift money for settlement of the modern made up grievance. This is being pushed by the unhinged Maori Party but dispite what the name suggests only has support of 1 in 6 Maori - 5 in 6 Maori do not agree with this tripe. Read the writings of the most celebrated and intelligent Maori Apirana Ngata on this matter and get real facts. this channel is spreading miss information.
Hey Spectacles! Just wanted to let you know that as a Kiwi it means the world for anyone to acknowledge our country! And a high quality video on a part of our history I've never heard about is even better!
This is such a great video! Te Tiriti o Waitangi is covered a lot here in New Zealand, but not the events following it. The Māori pronunciations are quite painful, but this is really well researched and shows a great respect for the culture. You've gained a subscriber!
@@juanjuan5698 there is no racism is saying that New Zealand European have trouble pronouncing Māori language, in many cases they choose to pronounce it how they feel it should sound, rather than pronouncing it correctly, but as I made a point in saying was NOT to shame people who are at least are trying. What you have said is OUTRIGHT racism. Just because you don't see people in your chosen subject, doesn't mean they aren't as smart OR ARE LESSER THAN EVERYONE ELSE.
as a Maori im embarrased we have foreigners teaching us what we should have been taught in school, from elders, or even strangers with banger stories of history. but instead we have outsiders teaching us what our government hides from us. Sir, Thank you Sir.
1:56 There is one biiiig thing Spectacle got wrong about the Treaty of Waitangi (Source, I live in New Zealand, doesn't mean I'm more knowledgeable but the treaty is a unavoidable topic in NZ history and is still considered a founding document) The treaty of Waitangi, I'll call it "TOW", was a document that was written in two languages; English and Maori. The intention of it was the English side of the treaty, which goal's Spectacle got spot on, however the translation into Maori was perfectly awful. As in, it was translated well enough to read but translated into something else entirely. The english side of TOW said in a TDLR fashion "The crown would have the land" The Maori side of TOW said in a TDLR fashion "The tribes would have the land" because the Maori language had no concept of what the crown was, so rather than use use the english word they translated to it. And you might think "Oh, but that's your TDLR summery of the whole cluster fuck, surely the whole document wasn't like that"... the whole document was like that. Instead of using the plain english words, the treaty used words which the Maori would conceptually understand, which rewrote their side of TOW into giving the maori all the land. Effectively, TWO promised in two different ways that both the british and the Maori would own all the land, not that they'd have their own separate areas as Spectacle suggested. Tbh, I'm still on the fence if it was a genuine mistake or the british being dicks again, but when explaining it to others I try to make it out as a mistake, because often where there seems to be malice is usually just idiocy.
For reference: TL;DR, for "Too long; Didn't Read", not TDLR for... *shrug*. Not super important, I just tend not notice stuff like that. I'd give decent odds that at the time it was 'best attempt to actually translate what the people are acutally agreeing to for those Maori who could not read the English version (which was to be the actual legal document)'. And, of course, while there were a number of Maori who could read English perfectly well by that point, the number who couldn't was still 'most of them'. Doesn't even really require any idiocy, just the limitations of translation (much more difficult than most give it credit for when the languages in question lack relevant common cultural references to work from). Following the usual practice of humanity, people (not just the British) being dicks about it came later.
I've been doing a lot of study on te Tiriti recently, and the mistranslations were because the translators knew that if they translated the English to Te Reo directly Māori would not sign. Also because the translation was done literally overnight by a missionary and his son who were not native Te Reo speakers, and without the help of native Te Reo speakers.
imo lack of respect to limitations of the language & malice due to lack of consultation and clarification; idiocy in those who (often unknowingly) carried the English version as a substitute for both into history and beyond, when there were identifiable mistranslations from so very early on. For not-kiwis, there was an incident at one of our museums of National history, Te Papa, this past December wherein pro-te Tiriti (those who _honour the treaty_ that the current government is trying to interfere with) protestors defaced the large exhibition where these two documents are carved into large wood display panels side-by-side (this is not the original document, but that is also there). They spray-painted across the English document mistranslations (from te Reo to English, as opposed to the way it was initially translated). As a lover of art & a student of Information Studies, this really shocked me at first, but their message imo is an even stronger piece of protest art now. I believe it is still being kept up as such. Dude literally abseiled in to protect the message of te Tiriti his ancestors know, done in a way that let the people be heard when parliament began their talks, legend tbh!
Te Reo Māori is in my opinion the easiest language of an English-colonised people for an English speaker to pronounce, though the vowels are a bit harder for most Americans. It just takes a little care, e.g. your pronunciation of Aotearoa is excellent. One thing many people even in NZ screw up is stress placement, which is with the first long vowel/diphthong and otherwise on the first syllable
Maori did not call NZ Aotearoa its the name of one of the islands of New Zealand as far as one tribe of many see it so this is factually incorrect. Also Maori ceded sovereignty to the queen via the Treaty of Waitangi as they wanted to trade under the British Flag at international ports and the queen guaranteed their rights and protected them as equal to British settlers in return for ceding sovereignty. on what planet does the queen of England protect other sovereigns? She protects her subjects. Everyone knows this and only 1.6% of the nation still play this game of "we didn't cede" because they are trying to grift money for settlement of the modern made up grievance. This is being pushed by the unhinged Maori Party but dispite what the name suggests only has support of 1 in 6 Maori - 5 in 6 Maori do not agree with this tripe. Read the writings of the most celebrated and intelligent Maori Apirana Ngata on this matter and get real facts. this channel is spreading miss information.
Just so you know, there was no Aotearoa to end/destroy. It is a European name. Maori were splintered tribes and there was no concept of the country as we know it. They only had names for the specific islands, and even these different between different iwi
that is true. NZ was a concept invented by European settlers /colonisers. Before then, it was a series of islands with local tribal rule over small areas. With constant inter tribal disputes and fighting. SO back in the old days, it was not a country with, a national government and rule. Each area was different to live in. You could live in a 'troubled' area with conflict, or live in a peaceful area.
Maori did not call NZ Aotearoa its the name of one of the islands of New Zealand as far as one tribe of many see it so this is factually incorrect. Also Maori ceded sovereignty to the queen via the Treaty of Waitangi as they wanted to trade under the British Flag at international ports and the queen guaranteed their rights and protected them as equal to British settlers in return for ceding sovereignty. on what planet does the queen of England protect other sovereigns? She protects her subjects. Everyone knows this and only 1.6% of the nation still play this game of "we didn't cede" because they are trying to grift money for settlement of the modern made up grievance. This is being pushed by the unhinged Maori Party but dispite what the name suggests only has support of 1 in 6 Maori - 5 in 6 Maori do not agree with this tripe. Read the writings of the most celebrated and intelligent Maori Apirana Ngata on this matter and get real facts. this channel is spreading miss information.
Thanks for covering an incident during the New Zealand Wars. These conflicts consolidated settler control over New Zealand and laid the foundations for the development of NZ as a settler colony.
Maori did not call NZ Aotearoa its the name of one of the islands of New Zealand as far as one tribe of many see it so this is factually incorrect. Also Maori ceded sovereignty to the queen via the Treaty of Waitangi as they wanted to trade under the British Flag at international ports and the queen guaranteed their rights and protected them as equal to British settlers in return for ceding sovereignty. on what planet does the queen of England protect other sovereigns? She protects her subjects. Everyone knows this and only 1.6% of the nation still play this game of "we didn't cede" because they are trying to grift money for settlement of the modern made up grievance. This is being pushed by the unhinged Maori Party but dispite what the name suggests only has support of 1 in 6 Maori - 5 in 6 Maori do not agree with this tripe. Read the writings of the most celebrated and intelligent Maori Apirana Ngata on this matter and get real facts. this channel is spreading miss information.
Maori did not call NZ Aotearoa its the name of one of the islands of New Zealand as far as one tribe of many see it so this is factually incorrect. Also Maori ceded sovereignty to the queen via the Treaty of Waitangi as they wanted to trade under the British Flag at international ports and the queen guaranteed their rights and protected them as equal to British settlers in return for ceding sovereignty. on what planet does the queen of England protect other sovereigns? She protects her subjects. Everyone knows this and only 1.6% of the nation still play this game of "we didn't cede" because they are trying to grift money for settlement of the modern made up grievance. This is being pushed by the unhinged Maori Party but dispite what the name suggests only has support of 1 in 6 Maori - 5 in 6 Maori do not agree with this tripe. Read the writings of the most celebrated and intelligent Maori Apirana Ngata on this matter and get real facts. this channel is spreading miss information.
I love the fact that you travel the world for your Videos, so much effort and love goes Into them and one can really feel that, absolutley great work, keep it going please 😊
You should give a retelling of chunuk bair in WW1 which showed the distinctive differences that were present of how NZ and Austrailia weren't considered an extension of the British empire but simply a part of it.
Which is a handy way to convince thousands of young men to march to their deaths. You can see an example of this today in Russia where men from 5000kms away are being dragged over to Ukraine to die horribly for nothing but this vague concept of 'motherland.' NZ and Aussie men were cannon fodder to be fed to the guns by the shovelful. You can see exactly what I mean if you spend any time reading about how the Gallipoli campaign went.
Indeed. Much of the sentiment of being British continued for decades beyond self-governance. One can still see on many monuments erected in small towns in the middle of wide open country, themes of fighting for Britain.
@@blazerking262 It would be great to get different insights into the mindset of the time regarding who one was fighting for. Considering post-war Australasia actually didn't have much of an Anti-British sentiment like the modern day likes to believe, it would be a fascinating research dive. After all... Most of them are ancestrally British at the end of the day. There's always been and continues to be that connection.
Maori did not call NZ Aotearoa its the name of one of the islands of New Zealand as far as one tribe of many see it so this is factually incorrect. Also Maori ceded sovereignty to the queen via the Treaty of Waitangi as they wanted to trade under the British Flag at international ports and the queen guaranteed their rights and protected them as equal to British settlers in return for ceding sovereignty. on what planet does the queen of England protect other sovereigns? She protects her subjects. Everyone knows this and only 1.6% of the nation still play this game of "we didn't cede" because they are trying to grift money for settlement of the modern made up grievance. This is being pushed by the unhinged Maori Party but dispite what the name suggests only has support of 1 in 6 Maori - 5 in 6 Maori do not agree with this tripe. Read the writings of the most celebrated and intelligent Maori Apirana Ngata on this matter and get real facts. this channel is spreading miss information.
@@piedpiper1172...except the british didn't have a single military victory during the whole war. that quote is referring to the reason he took up arms, not the reason for defeat. paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/NENZC18460404.2.22?items_per_page=100&page=6
This is actually decently accurate to what I've experienced and learned from being at most of those places, people and my family who used to live nearby to that region. Could do with some work on pronunciation but overall good work!
Maori did not call NZ Aotearoa its the name of one of the islands of New Zealand as far as one tribe of many see it so this is factually incorrect. Also Maori ceded sovereignty to the queen via the Treaty of Waitangi as they wanted to trade under the British Flag at international ports and the queen guaranteed their rights and protected them as equal to British settlers in return for ceding sovereignty. on what planet does the queen of England protect other sovereigns? She protects her subjects. Everyone knows this and only 1.6% of the nation still play this game of "we didn't cede" because they are trying to grift money for settlement of the modern made up grievance. This is being pushed by the unhinged Maori Party but dispite what the name suggests only has support of 1 in 6 Maori - 5 in 6 Maori do not agree with this tripe. Read the writings of the most celebrated and intelligent Maori Apirana Ngata on this matter and get real facts. this channel is spreading miss information.
My dad says there was a murder in the small town where we grew up. A family of 2 adults and a newborn. The adults were shot from an outside window, but the baby he been constantly fed and kept alive over the time from the murders to when the bodies were found
Maori did not call NZ Aotearoa its the name of one of the islands of New Zealand as far as one tribe of many see it so this is factually incorrect. Also Maori ceded sovereignty to the queen via the Treaty of Waitangi as they wanted to trade under the British Flag at international ports and the queen guaranteed their rights and protected them as equal to British settlers in return for ceding sovereignty. on what planet does the queen of England protect other sovereigns? She protects her subjects. Everyone knows this and only 1.6% of the nation still play this game of "we didn't cede" because they are trying to grift money for settlement of the modern made up grievance. This is being pushed by the unhinged Maori Party but dispite what the name suggests only has support of 1 in 6 Maori - 5 in 6 Maori do not agree with this tripe. Read the writings of the most celebrated and intelligent Maori Apirana Ngata on this matter and get real facts. this channel is spreading miss information.v
the New Zealand wars are such an interesting topic to learn about, I think the treaty of Waitangi was translated in like 1 night before the signing and the main point of conflict was that I think Sovereignty wasn't a word in Māori and something about "Complete Ownership" wasn't translated thoroughly. Correct if wrong but every mispronunciation hit me like a truck
Don't forget the guy that was meant to write and translate the treaty got sick so his teenage son did it for him. Also, there was something like 182 different versions of the treaty because they manipulated people into signing them by offering land and other rights to different tribes so every tribe got a different version. Soory has been a long time since I studied nz history. I can't recall exact numbers
To add to that, this applies to any word that contains “ng” or “nga”, I’m Filipino but raised in NZ, so naturally did not have any issues pronouncing most Māori words. I believe this linguistic characteristic is universal in almost every austronesian language
@@2255223388 I mean all of his pronunciations are pretty off but yeah, it's not silent and it's not as pronounced. It's more just sayingthe "ng" in "singing" with a little less emphasis on the g and more on the n. Definitely takes practice, props to Spectacles for trying.
The nga or ŋa sound aka voiced velar nasal is silent in inuktitut and other inuit-yupik-unganan family languages too, I really don't have any trouble with te reo Maōri despite it and inuktitut being vastly different from each other
@@S3lkie-Gutz Pretty sure it's the same sound as the NG in English 'thing', no? English just... doesn't allow that sound in the onset of a syllable, so English speakers struggle with it when it shows up there in other languages.
Well it’s something depending on education, most of these stuff are old so if you went school here during the 90s then you would know about 80% of New Zealand history
The sad part is that, all things considered, Aotearoa was lucky. Lucky that the language, customs and name of this nation are still known across the world. Not many island nations and small native communities trampled by the colonisers can say the same.
we don't consider the loss of our sovereignty, the genocide, mass incarceration and large scale disenfranchisement (including and not limited to the banning of our native language) "lucky", thanks.
@@rebeccagibbs4128 obviously not, as you shouldn't. However Notice the inherent luck in your cultures survival no matter how tainted. Many native nations of The Americas are not even recognized by the State, their language and cultures obliterated or forgotten. Sovereignty is unfortunately not given to those who deserve it in their own lands. And the Nations that remain are not respected or supported on a widespread means, still not even called "Native" but "Indian" based on Columbus' mistake believing he first was in India Most European-Americans genuinely believe and are partially taught Natives are extinct and we aren't even taught it's a bad thing or the inherent cruelty of our government
@@rebeccagibbs4128what’s the justification? Does leaving one survivor justify a massacre? No, you’re not using that word right and nobody here has tried to justify colonization or said you were lucky to be colonized. It seems like you could have an important perspective and knowledge to add if your responses had actual relevance to the rest of the conversation, even if that ends with saying you refuse to validate a discussion on comparative outcomes of colonization.
lucky is not the word. Why not frame it, the colonisers were less blood thirsty at this stage and noble savage politics meant Maori avoided previously used tactics. Luck is a good thing and my peoples colonisation was NOT a good thing. How hard is it to understand that. Honestly ya'll think you're tough shit debating this here online. Come stand on my Marae and say that we were lucky at the hands of those who wanted to (and some still do) eradicate us and our culture. @@jacksonbarker7594
You should read about the musket wars which preceded the treaty for context. The treaty wasn't about colonization it was about ending a hellish culture of genocide and enslavement. NZ was known as the Hell-Hole of the Pacific at the time and it's a very accurate description. It was a lawless and extremely violent place, the British very definitely did not want it, they had the Indian mutiny to contend with.
the musket wars themselves had little to do with the signing of te tiriti. the musket trade, however, was a factor. the rangatira of ngāpuhi were pushed to sign te tiriti as they feared that any single hapū that signed would had a significant advantage in trade with the British for muskets over the others who would not sign. take te ruki kawiti for instance, he was one of te tiriti's most staunch advocates, saying that signing te tiriti would lead to ngāpuhi being trodden on by the british - he would still sign te tiriti later though, saying that his people pushed him to sign as they didn't want to lose a possible edge in trade with the British. there's no british contemporary account that states that the musket wars were a factor in the writing of te tiriti nor he whakaputanga
@@skuzza405 musket trade in NZ. Muskets entered NZ in the bay of islands and gave far northern tribes a decisive military advantage. It took a long time before Southern tribes could gain sufficient muskets to pay back utu on northern tribes. Northern tribes then sought British protection under the treaty from revenge massacres.
@@harryflashman4542the musket wars had already mostly ended by the mid 1830s due to the proliferation of muskets meaning most iwi were on an equal footing, so i don't know where you're getting this information from. source?
This video is fine, but context is needed. This was a localised incident and it’s incorrect to call it a war between Europeans and Maori. It was a war between certain Iwi and the Europeans in that area. Later battles that the video maker mentions had a myriad of reasons and are distinct and mostly not linked to what happened in the north as discussed in this video.
Also it was the crown. The people were still people but some formed militias as the crown failed to protect them from tribal warriors. Those militias were all recorded and it was barely anyone.
It’s consuming to think of land grabs as something only of colonial powers. Within New Zealand there were multiple tribes who fought each other and conquered each others land.
And then there's the fun part where most of the scam land sales that caused great upset weren't actually the British Government screwing over the local Maori, they were some random european land developer and his Maori associate getting together to screw over the tribe in a get rich quick scheme exploiting the differences in understanding of land ownership, the locals (both Maori and European) pitching a fit over the result... and the British government officials having no idea how the hell to deal with the Maori model of land ownership when trying to resolve the matter sensibly (if not fairly) and so making ... questionable... decisions in an attempt to resolve things. Oh, and there's the fun of the group of Maori who decided to get in on this whole 'colonialism' game and charted a European ship to go off and conquer one of the nearby (as such things go) islands that Wasn't part of New Zealand, engaging in a little fun complete-genocide-of-the-locals of their own, even as the British (and later not-actually-the-British-as-such) government of New Zealand was generally pretty keen on Not actually engaging in genocide, for all it's other faults (for reference, I'm talking about Actual genocide here, not 'cultural' genocide, which is mostly used as a justification to NOT do things that would actually Prevent Actual Genocide in the sort of situations where things have devolved to the point where that's a legitimate concern).
As an ancestor of Sir Apirana Ngata - the most famous Maori politician and the man on our $50 note - i can proudly say our people have come a long way since our first engagements - both ethnicity's of tangata whenua. (people of the land) Sadly, there is still much to discuss and come to an agreement/arrangement on, however, i know one day soon the land of Aotearoa New Zealand will cede its ignorance/tall poppy syndrome and other such limitations and finally flourish fully into the land of fortune and grace it has always been.
I (american) lived in New Zealand for a year and a half and I regret not seeing more of it while I was there. I was fortunate enough to drive from Queenstown to Milford Sound on a rare clear day, and it’s the most breathtaking scenery I have ever seen with my own eyes. No wonder the Māori wanted to keep their lands.
I've been twice, in sunshine and in a downpour. I thought it was more spectacular with the rain, all the waterfalls coming off the cliffs into the sea.
Hey Harry you got the date wrong at 9:55 it's July 1944 not 1945, was so confused when the next date was January 1945 that I had to look it up. Excellent vid though
Same deal today. Some of us see the precedents we set by giving up larger or smaller amounts of our freedom every day. Most people just think it’s no big deal.
@@elLootoKao? Ko te whakaahuatia i te reo Māori katoa o "wh" rite ki te "f" i te reo Pākehā, hāunga te reo-ā-iwi ki Taranaki (ki korā, ka kōrero rātou "w", ehara i te "f"; ka turuki rātou ō rātou ngā "h"). Ka mea rea ka mōhiotia whanautia tērā, nē?
@@walterzamalis4846 In very little maori is wh traditionally pronounced f. You need to look into the history of the written language, which was created by a european (like the word Aotearoa, itself), who was based in the central north island. Its not normal in the south island either. When creating a written language you dont create phonetic contradictions; the guy had "f," therefore wh is not pronounced "f," especially when youve gone to the trouble to separate 'na' from 'nga.' which is way less of a phonetic difference. I find it funny when older Maori tell me they cant understand their kids accent, because they learned it in school instead of on the marae ;) Te Reo is the Tainui dialect, for the same reason the Kingi is Tainui. Looking forward to the regatta at Turangawaewae. Will you be there?
@@walterzamalis4846I have to give mad credit to the (Translated by Google) because this is the most accurate I’ve seen it translate any language to Engrish 😂 if only they had Google translate at Waitangi ay hahah
@@walterzamalis4846 Not at all, Walter. In the South Island's historical Kai Tahu dialects, wh is often pronounced as a w. After all, there's a reason lake Wakatipu has two written forms.
I never would have thought greymouth high school was the best school in nz but it seems that way as we actually learnt all nz history in our elective history class. 😢
That comment i left here was by accident. I was watching a short on my home page, when i wrote the comment it was on the short but somehow transferred to this video
I have mixed feelings about this video. I appreciate that you've made a video about Maori culture, but a lot of the history in this video is very incorrect, and some of the biggest events have just been missed out. Much has been mentioned by others, but one person who's been greatly under represented is Te Ruki Kawiti. He was Heke's uncle, and my own ancestor. He was the last to sign the Treaty and disapproved of it from the start. Much of the rebellion was joint between their people and the two of them. At the battle of Ohaeawai, Heke wasnt actually there at all. He'd heen badly injured after the invasion of his own pa and wasn't involved whatsoever. The battle was led by Te Ruki Kawiti, who had designed the fortifications, its often attributed as the first instance of trench warfare being used. Ruapekapeka, again was all Kawitis design, and led Kawiti with Heke in support now that he'd recovered. Neither of these forts were important at all. They were built solely to waste the resources and time of the British on empty, culturally irrelevant spots. Kawiti was the one who led the attack on Russel/Kororareka whilst Heke cut the flag down, and came to Heke's rescue when Tamati Waka Nene attacked my fighting in hand to hand combat throughout. The outcome of the war wasn't decisive, the Ngapuhi were under economic pressure for peace, but they didnt sucede to the British. The British had wasted an excessive level of resources trying to defeat the rebellion and did now have peace, but had captured very little in result (as all of those forts had been constructed with the sole purpose of wasting their time in the middle of nowhere). Kawiti did all of this whilst in his 70s. His son, my great great great great grandfather Maihi Paraone Kawiti would lead reconcilation with the British and eventually the restoration and reinstallment of the flagstaff there today, made and lifted by descendents of the men who fought in the rebellion as a show of good faith.
@@jimijamesjowitt No offence but what the hell are you talking about? That's never even been a part of the story. Ever. I don't know if maybe you just want that to be a part of history but the Americans were never involved in this.
New Zealand was a tribal society where the strongest survived. It was also a land of multiple migrations by boat. Eventually, a tribe would win and those people's and government came on boats like everybody else. They were the British. This is pretty much the history of any country and human history is full of conquests. Even England itself has a similar story with the Anglo-Saxons. The British Empire in this instance was like the Roman Empire. You could surrender and join, or fight.
It's obvious from this video you gave the Maori language it a good go, I mean the pronunciation was terrible, but your effort was clear. Maybe next time get a Kiwi to go over the words with you first? I would be happy to do it.
I went to school with a guy who was named after Hone. I was then informed by my mate on the cutting of the flagpole. I didn't know about the murder beforehand though. Just the flag and following war. Mad respect for Hone he's always been one of my favs in Aotearoa history. I love that you mentioned the seats in parliament assigned for Maori representation. I switched to the Maori electoral roll last year, trying to get my lil bro to switch as well since our mother's side is Maori.
In reality there were two treaties signed the English one and one that was translated into Maori by an Anglican priest and the priest gave the Maori one and altogether different translation
Great video it’s interesting to see our history told by someone from outside the country, it’s unfortunate that the history of the New Zealand wars could be expanded on but you would need 3-4 hours to tell that story but thank you for telling the story anyway I very much appreciate you taking the time to respectfully try and explain what made us to the rest of the world
To my shame, this is the most I have ever learned about the colonization of the Maori lands. To my joy- and your credit, Sir Spectacles, I have finally learned an introduction to Māori civilization at the time of British arrival. This doc was an awesome work. I look forward to watching the rest of what you have created.
A fascinating story of resistance by the Maori. Even though they ultimately were defeated by the British their fight was not ultimately in vain. In the grand scheme of things they got a better deal than many other native peoples. Sure there is still a lot of room for improvement, but there is hope that things will improve for them.
How can they improve past being more-than-equal under the law, with Seats in Parliament reserved solely for members of their race (literal systemic racism) and favoritism in social programs?
It is interesting to note that the series of conflicts previously known as 'the Maori Wars' has, in recent times, come to be refered to as 'the New Zealand Wars'... on the basis that it was almost never 'Maori vs European' but a real mixed bag of conflicts which pretty consistently had Maori tribes on both sides of them, and frequently had various Europeans involved on the non-central government side. The whole collection can loosely be termed unification wars, but individually, some where various tribes which the central government was content to leave mostly to their own devices deciding to have a go at taking control of the whole thing, and there was a major religious uprising (by what amounts to a cult of a similar model to those seen doing similar things in other places, right down to believing that those who believed strongly enough were immune to bullets), a couple that are probably arguably more civil wars than anything, various conflicts that arguably weren't really wars in their own right but were big enought to count as skirmishes in the greater mess... and the last conflict basically amounted to the central government deciding that having a 'last village holding out against the invaders' situation wasn't exactly a great idea during World War One and sending a large group of police officers to inform them that their independance had been revoked. Not sure if I'm remembering rightly, but I believe that one didn't even involve anyone actually shooting at each other. Arugably, there's a fair case to be made that the lot of the Maori people would have actually been substantually better Without most (though not all, quite an important distinction, that) of those conflicts.
@@elLooto When you actually break down what they are and how they work, the Maori seats aren't actually an issue, not actually granting meaningly more representation to any individual than a regular seat would. Other matters... are a complete mess. There are areas where the system is still actively racist against Maori. There are areas where it is actively racist in Favour of Maori. There are areas that run into problems because those in charge of policy somehow seem incapable of grasping the idea of poor people who Aren't Maori (or maybe pacific islanders)... make of That what you will, but it causes problems. Then you have Maori Supremacists making a mess of things, Radical Progressives more interested in their ideological dogma than the actual reality of the situation (the UN's bit about native cogovernance makes Perfect sense when you're talking about a few native tribes who mostly don't interact with the wider nation and want to prevent them from being abused, it's complete nonsensical bullshit when said natives all but universally live in the same places under the same economic models using the same resorces in the same ways as the rest of the citizenry.), various parts of the right using rightful opposition to that as an excuse to push another round of pro-white/anti-maori racist nonsense (mind you, this is almost always as a tool, a means to an end, rather than the Goal. The NZ voting public still hasn't quite fallen far enough as to actually elect the malicious and/or deranged, mostly-american-influenced 'far right' (for want of a better term) to parliament. The parties that Do get in are all pretty rubbish regardless of supposed alignment, but none of them are That far gone.)
@laurencefraser the different party's work together for their own agenda that has nothing to do with the people. They take turn and shit of each other while going out the back to shake hands in a job well done. When a minority vote gets to make and change laws that's not democracy. (Helen Clarke's smoking referendum. Majority was against it. Still was pushed though) I haven't trusted and govt party in nz since.
I wonder why Maori seems relatively integrated into New Zealand culture. I mean, even white people regularly use Maori words and phrases and support changing the name back to Aotearoa. Edit: that's not to say the Maori haven't been subject to much mistreatment and prejudice and suffered many indignities, but compared to other colonies where no more than a few loan words and nouns have made it into the language, "kia ora" being a common greeting is remarkable.
Maori did not call NZ Aotearoa its the name of one of the islands of New Zealand as far as one tribe of many see it so this is factually incorrect. Also Maori ceded sovereignty to the queen via the Treaty of Waitangi as they wanted to trade under the British Flag at international ports and the queen guaranteed their rights and protected them as equal to British settlers in return for ceding sovereignty. on what planet does the queen of England protect other sovereigns? She protects her subjects. Everyone knows this and only 1.6% of the nation still play this game of "we didn't cede" because they are trying to grift money for settlement of the modern made up grievance. This is being pushed by the unhinged Maori Party but dispite what the name suggests only has support of 1 in 6 Maori - 5 in 6 Maori do not agree with this tripe. Read the writings of the most celebrated and intelligent Maori Apirana Ngata on this matter and get real facts. this channel is spreading miss information.
2:57 hey man, just wanted to let you know that's not how Ngāpuhi is pronounced. It's nah-puh-hee :) I appreciate your commitment and decication for using te reo māori in this video though, thank you so much!!
as a pakeha new zealander, honestly the british should've left aotearoa tf alone and minded their own business. te titiri o waitangi was intentionally mistranslated by an englishman when he was translating it to te reo māori. it was a con.
Europeans definitely had no right to claim Aoteroa. But the early Maori-British relationship was honestly very beneficial for both sides. If I could go back and change anything, it'd be unifying the Iwi and settlers into a federation of sorts under the British crown for protection and trade.
For what purpose? it is today one of the greatest and most peaceful nations on the planet, with one of the highest life qualities of all human peoples, whether you be maori or European in descent. or often both as many new zealanders are. You are welcome for being dragged kicking and screaming into the Free world.
Theres barley any full blooded maoris left, My great grandma was a full maori, That means if britan never came then alot of us wouldnt be here, But that dosent mean it would be bad.
@@kirby4667 are ypu sure? That's assuming that British influence wasn't also the cause for the maoris dying out. For all we know full maoris would be much more common without that colonial rule
Thanks for the vid school never did a good job at explaining this to me Im pakeha and unfortunately theres alot i still dont about our history i know things happened but not how
By the time Britain drafted the Treaty of Waitangi they were already old hands in the business of colonization and therefore the idea that any discrepancies in the document were simply mistranslations is quite frankly rather difficult to swallow the British being masters of the diplomatic double-cross would never have let the acquisition of important new territories slip from their grasp, the fact that their version favors the British immeasurably should really tell us most of what we need to know in regards to the duplicity practiced by white settlers all over the world in this period.
The problem that the British had and still have today is that King William signed He Whakaputanga that was gazetted and proclaims maori their own sovereign people. The Treaty is but an addendum to this document which the governments doesnt like because it is legally relevant, and both clear and concise in its meaning as opposed to the Treaty which is ambiguous and allows debate as to its meaning, when in all reality it means nothing because in law where there is doubt as to its meaning, refer to the previous document.....He Whakaputanga
I'm not so convinced. Talking to scholars on the ground in N.Z, many of whom being Maori, there is a clear consensus that mistranslation without malicious intentions is backed up as a reason. Translation of the concept of 'sovereignty' is one such famous example in academic circles. Effective translation between peoples of previously unknown cultures requires a very comprehensive understanding of said cultures. The British may have had plenty of experience in translation by your account, but if there are shortcomings in the depth of inter-cultural understandings, therein lies potential for issues in future dialogue. This is especially noteworthy considering how Maori culture itself differed in many ways just in terms of reading body language. One great example being a fight between peaceful sailors of each side encountering each-other's light-craft for the first time while rowing the coast. Translation into any language brings a serious level of complexity.
@@scootergrant8683 These so called scholars you have talked too including maori ones, are simpley offering no more than their opinions. These opinions have no relevance or substance in law as determined by the international law courts, which alot of people hang onto to deny maori their legal rights.....why? If you want too come back and ask i will tell you why.
@@normpihere9646 I am merely talking about those I came across in a 200 level legal course. I don't see what the rest has to do with tea in China as my comment was talking about treaty translational inconsistency. Not contemporary application of case law. So I do implore you to at least re-read what I and James had to say
@@scootergrant8683 I have, hence my reply to you. You specifically mentioned the Treaty of Waitangi as the inference (im being nice) you have put forward is that as the ""British" were old hands in the business of colonization, how could they get it so wrong against a stone age culture like the maori, therefore the colonizers version must be correct......Lets put this to bed, the international law courts have already ruled on your opinion and that of others , which doesnt correlate with your version. Again, we either honour the law or we say, ""stuff it"", lets forget about it, and go back to raping and pillaging.......what say you scooter boy?
Got to about 3 minutes before I started throwing up in my mouth. In 1841 the Maori name for New Zealand was Nu Tirani not Aotearoa. And the Maori way of life was very hierarchical more akin to feudalism than communalism.
Aotearoa (the word or name) was first recorded / published about 1856..... literally meaning the land of the long white cloud. But Politically meaning the whole of the territory.......... which had never been a concept with Maori. Maori looked after their own tribal area and had many place names for parts all over the country. But not a name for the whole place. Pre-European, there was no nation, country, unified rule, parliament, kingdom or whatever. It was simply a series of islands with different and often warring tribal groups. BTW 'Nu Tirani" is correct in the early 1800's. Especially amongst combined Maori tribes from the upper North Island.
Fantastic video, thank you for covering our countries History because it's not really well known outside our own country. While you mispronounced pretty much every Maori word, you made a good effort and did better than most who try.
Thank you so much for the effort you put into pronunciation of Māori words!!! Ka pai!!! Clearly a bit of mahi goes into your work, ka kite. So many videos about my country that I stop watching in seconds because if they haven’t heard someone say Māori properly then how shallow was their research?
According to Sir James Bellich, an important NZ historian, Maori came, "within an ace" of winning the wars of the 1860s, Maori's last chance to retain co governance was probably 1868 not 1845. Also Maori didn't start the war in 1860 to protect their sovereignty, the British attacked them in Taranaki to take all their land and Maori acted in self defence. The British were always going to try to take all the Maori land with or without Maketu. Lastly, the reason Maori nearly won the land wars was due to superior tactics i.e entrenched fortifications. It doesn't matter how much better your muskets are or if you have the artillery, storming an entrenched position is suicide. So, the British didnt win because of industrialisation, but because they had a larger army, and a full time army; Maori soldiers had to return home after several weeks to work the fields.
Given up their rights in order to have "security". Hmmm, sounds like something a founder of America had said. Something like - those who give up their essential freedoms for a little temporary security deserve neither.
At 6:35 "It was the first execution in the history of New Zealand." Please clarify- first execution by British authority in NZ? No one ever killed by any authority in the islands before that?
I think the distinction they were making is that it was the first execution as exercise of British jurisprudence rather than the first time it was used as punishment in accordance with local custom (which I’m ignorant of), hence the event’s significance in relation to the sovereignty dispute.
@@stephenkelly207 Before the brittish, the two islands, which had no name, was in a political state known as 'warlordism' They definitely executed people as a punishment. In at least one case by chasing the offenders from [modern day] Cambridge to New Plymouth. Over a sovereignty dispute. Its a funny little piece of local history at Taupiri.
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The pronunciation is killing me
as a high school student in NZ, i knew hardly anything to do with any of this. they dont teach us the important stuff, just that there was a “mistranslation that may or may not have been deliberate” and personally im fed up with only being taught the bare minimum of our own country’s history
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In the 80's at school we learnt The Treaty was a good thing and everyone was happy to live as one because white people gave guns and blankets to struggling people in exchange for some land. The executions, land confiscation and other awful stuff was not mentioned at all. I know several people my age that grew up in NZ still don't know anymore than that. It's why it's so easy for the politicians to argue for "equal rights", because they can white wash everything just like was done at school and some people genuinely don't know better. Pretty awful most New Zealanders don't know the half of the awful history of our country. So sad 😢 I can only hope children now are learning a more impartial view and are more empathetic to the injustices done in the past.
IF THEY TEACH REAL NZ HISTORY THEY WOULD HAVE TO ADMIT THE BAD THINGS THEY DID THEY WOULD ALSO HAVE TO ADMIT TO BEING DEFEATED AND FORCED TO SIGN A TREATY. MAORI SIGNED WITH THE BRITISH CROWN NOT WITH THE NZ PEOPLE OR GOVERNMENT THEY CAME BECAUSE MAORI WANTED THE BRITISH TO CONTROL THEIR PEOPLE. ALL THE GOOD THINGS THAT KEEP THE GOVT IN CHECK ARE FROM MAORI AND THEIR SUPPORTERS
@@clairebarry8030my youngest sibling is learning that New Zealand only got the treaty because of fear that the French would claim us first, by that knowledge how I learned about the treaty in the mid 90s it’s like New Zealand was a useful military tactic.
@@samuellatu3123 that's so weird it's still not all the info
British Parliament: "I am altering the deal. Pray I don't alter it any further."
Prey the Maori NEVER come after YOU!!
Isn't that basically the Sykes-Picot agreement?
@@frenzalrhomb6919and do what? They lost
Then You hear that mf from black rock saying africa should be colonized by the US. We don't trust western countries
@quack9694 the Brits cucked though
RIP Old Zealand
Nah, Old Zeeland is still there for now, although the sea has been trying to make it not for a few centuries
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as someone of ngāpuhi and someone who grew up in tai tokerau where all these events took place and their effects are still felt today, i appreciate a light being shined on the flagstaff war - it's a super important chapter in the history of ngāpuhi and tino rangatiratanga that often gets forgotten - but there's some pretty glaring omissions and mistakes in this video that need addressing:
Te Tiriti and The Treaty of Waitangi:
This is a debate that's still very hot in NZ politics today, so I'll give the cliff notes here and try not to inject my own opinion. There are two "versions" of Te Tiriti - the English document and the Reo Māori document. The reo Māori document promised "-ki ngā tāngata katoa o Nu Tirani te tino rangatiratanga o ō rātou whenua, ō rātou kainga me o rātou taonga katoa", which roughly translates as promising "to all the people of Nu Tirani (New Zealand, specifically Māori as outlined by He Whakaputanga) tino rangatiratanga (highest authority or soverignty) of their lands, their homes, and all their taonga (important treasures such as language, cultural practice, religions, etc.), and to the Queen of England "te Kawanatanga katoa o ō rātou whenua"; "All governership of [the rangatira's] lands". The english document, however, states "The Chiefs of the Confederation of the United Tribes of New Zealand [...] cede to Her Majesty the Queen of England absolutely and without reservation all the rights and powers of Sovereignty".
I won't get further into the nitty gritty of this - whether the treaty was deliberately mistranslated or not, whether the rangatira who signed it were aware of the British interpretation, etc. - it's a complex issue that's currently in the spotlight of NZ politics, but it's important to note this difference, and also important to note that Te Tiriti - the reo Māori document - was the one most rangatira Māori signed; only 39 rangatira of about 500 signatories put their signature to the english document.
Maketū's execution being the cause of the war:
While it's a good framing device for a story, reducing the causes of the flagstaff war purely to Maketū's execution by the British is a bit reductive. Whilst important to Māori as a sign that they no longer held the power to practice tīkanga and that their mana was waning, it's more the straw that broke the camel's back than the main cause of war. Issues between the crown and Māori existed long before this incident - the capital being moved from Kororāreka and the Wairau affray are good examples of this. Unlawful selling of land was a major factor in strained Crown-Māori relationships - one that Te Tiriti was said to address, but ultimately would be exacerbated in the English version.
Te Ruki Kawiti:
While he gets only one mention in this video, Kawiti - a rangatira of Ngāpuhi - is just as important to the story of the flagstaff war as Hone Heke. One of the original dissenters of Te Tiriti at Waitangi - partly due to his dislike for Heke and partly due to fears of British deception due to his own land being unlawfully taken from him by a Paihia missionary - was one of the main engineers behind the modernisation of the pā (also known as "gunfighter pā") that would allow the anti-crown Māori to come out of the flagstaff war without a single military loss against the British. Kāwiti was a seasoned commander from the musket wars, and he'd seen firsthand the benefits and drawbacks of modernised warfare during his campaigns. There are some historians who even attribute Kawiti's design to contributing to the invention of trench warfare - veterans and military historians allegedly drew inspiration from the designs of Kawiti's pā in the latter half of the 19th century into the 20th century.
The purpose of Ruapekapeka:
Though I'm not sure if this is the video's intention, it feels like Ruapekapeka is wrongly implied as having strategic importance to anti-crown Māori.This isn't really true; Ruapekapeka was a purely military construction, aimed to bait Governor Grey into sending troops into unfavourable siege conditions to damage British morale and numbers, to then be abandoned when it had served its purpose. This was part of the design of the pā at Ōhaeawai, and there's even a short song written by British troops about this sort of strategy:
"Sing a song of sixpence a tale about the war,
Four and twenty n****rs cooped up in a pā,
When the pā was opened not a n****r there was seen,
Is not that a jolly tale to tell before the Queen?"
Kūpapa:
Though Kūpapa has now become a derogatory term within Te Ao Māori, Kūpapa - crown-allied Māori - played an important part in the flagstaff war as
military advisors and soliders. Though their advice was often ignored, such as Governor Fitzroy insisting on charging the pā at Ōhaeawai against the warnings of Tāmiti Wāka Nene, their military role was important in the more forgotten about battles in the war, such as the battle of Te Ahuahu (which I'll touch on later). This also ties in to an idea that isn't in this video: Māori are not one whole unit, and neither is Ngāpuhi (and neither is any group of people, really). Tāmiti Wāka Nene joined forces with the British crown as he saw anti-crown Māori's rejection of British rule as an insult to his mana - he was a staunch advocate for the signing of Te Tiriti, and his considerable mana was a factor in getting a lot of rangatira to sign. The rejection of British governance was seen as an insult to this, and so he took up arms.
Te Ahuahu:
Due to the battle at Te Ahuahu being a purely Ngāpuhi vs. Ngāpuhi conflict, there's not a lot of written history about it, and I urge those watching to seek out info about it if they're interested, but it's a very important battle in the Flagstaff War, as it was the only one that was a clear defeat for anti-crown Māori, putting Hone Heke out of action with injuries for months on end, and forcing Kawiti to rethink his approach to the war, hence the battle at Ruapekapeka.
The Flagstaff war being a Māori last chance:
This is a pretty flawed interpretation of the history of tino rangatiratanga. The flagstaff war was the first of many crown-Māori wars in Aotearoa, with many other campaigns such as the Hutt Valley and Whanganui campaigns, the two Taranaki wars, the invasion of the Waikato, and Te Kooti's war (and that's not even a comprehensive list). Reducing the fate of Māori to the uncertain outcome of the Flagstaff war and the fate of Ngāpuhi is reductive both historically and culturally, and its important that people understand that the Flagstaff War is a chapter of the history of Te Tiriti, and not the whole story itself.
Of course, none of this is to imply that this video was made with ill intentions. It's good to have discussions about these events so that people can be educated on the history of tino rangatiratanga and an introduction to the long-term causes of racial inequality in NZ. Thanks for making it, and I hope everyone watching and reading has learned something new about the ground under their feet and its whakapapa.
Mahi nui e hoa!! Boost this comment up friends, incredible & valuable knowledge, tēnā koe tēnā koutou ♥️
Thank you for your teaching, straight from the source! Learned a lot from this as Pakeha & appreciate your time to write this out, ka pai tō mahi!
Much respect to the people of New Zealand!
I hope Spectacles pins this comment.
That is way to much to read for a RUclips comment
Is there an old trail from the back of Ruapekapeka that goes all the way to Oakura??
@fairybre4dfrom my reading of the English translation of the Moari version on Te Ara, he's mistaken or lying.
Took a pause from work as soon as I saw the notification. We got to lift this channel up, the quality behind these videos (graphics, research, narration) is up there with the best of them.
Maori did not call NZ Aotearoa its the name of one of the islands of New Zealand as far as one tribe of many see it so this is factually incorrect. Also Maori ceded sovereignty to the queen via the Treaty of Waitangi as they wanted to trade under the British Flag at international ports and the queen guaranteed their rights and protected them as equal to British settlers in return for ceding sovereignty. on what planet does the queen of England protect other sovereigns? She protects her subjects. Everyone knows this and only 1.6% of the nation still play this game of "we didn't cede" because they are trying to grift money for settlement of the modern made up grievance. This is being pushed by the unhinged Maori Party but dispite what the name suggests only has support of 1 in 6 Maori - 5 in 6 Maori do not agree with this tripe. Read the writings of the most celebrated and intelligent Maori Apirana Ngata on this matter and get real facts. this channel is spreading miss information.
Hey! Resident of Aotearoa New Zealand here with a handy pronunciation guide for Te Reo Māori:
A = cAr
E = Egg
I = frEE
O = OAr
U = trUE
NG = thiNG
WH = gaFF (this one is confusing, I understand)
If you see an accent over a vowel, or a double vowel (ie Kākā or Kooti) simply elongate the sound.
Te Reo Māori is really easy to learn once you know these basic rules, as it's one of the only languages in the world that's 100% phonetically consistent, meaning once you know how to pronounce all the letters, you can confidently pronounce every word in the Māori dictionary!
I hope you enjoyed my fun little lesson about our beautiful corner of the world. Ka pai, kia kaha!
Te Reo is the Tainui dialect.
It is absolutely not 100% phonetically consistent, and denies other dialects existence, going so far as to "officially" change the spelling and pronunciation of other iwi dialects: cf Wanganui to Whanganui. The iwi in that area did not use an "f" sound. The history of the written maori language (even the accents over vowels are extremely recent, and only came in to bully other iwi) is quite fascinating, right from its inception; the 'wh' sound is pronounced like whoosh in the central north island where the written language was created; phonetically, by a European settler. 'wh' as 'f' is a completely Tainui affectation, like certain english dialects dropping 'h' from the start of words, and for much the same reasons.
Pronunciation is wildly different between south Auckland and Hamilton, for example. You just have to talk to the locals to know this. If you get your maori from Te Reo, you'd never know.
I have a river view overlooking Turangawaewae. The yearly regatta is an awesome spectacle, btw.
@@elLooto Tried to simplify for a foreign audience and ended up using poor wording, my bad.
What I meant was that every letter in standard written Te Reo is pronounced, and pronounced the same way every time.
For example E is pronounced the same no matter where in the word it is, unlike in all European languages (that I'm familiar with, welcome to be corrected). I know in Greek the letter N can change based on the letters around it, and I know this is the case for slavic, SE Asian, Celtic, etc languages - I just don't know enough to give examples
I know you're just saying racist shit to get a rise (how boring your life must be that this is your entertainment), but in case you want to learn and begin to mend your bigoted ways, here's a fun fact:
If you consider Te Reo Māori primitive (which, by the way, isn't a scientific term), you must also admit that English, which has been evolving in its modern form for about the same amount of time as Te Reo (English c.1000ad, Te Reo c.1300ad), is also a primitive language. "But what about Old English?" You say. What about old Māori? All languages evolved from an earlier version of themselves, that's how language works. There is no such thing as a primitive language because all naturally occurring languages have been evolving for the exact same amount of time.
Also! If you think Te Reo is primitive, by god you must think Latin is only spoken by the dumbest of the dumb huh?
These comments are a good example of maori disunity
@@Donsomebody All natural languages are equal. If you only treat European languages as "civilised", then of course non-European language features will seem "primitive".
The whole time I was watching I assumed this was a super large channel with millions of subs. I did not expect this to only have 8.5k views. This is quality content! You deserve 1000x that!
Cause he literally copied Lemino editing style . So you’ve probably seen a. Channel with
Millions of subs that looks extremely similar
@@JoeRogansForehead "copying" is a negative term to use, i would say more inspire; Because he using one that look similar but still educating people use it.
2 weeks later and 10x more views. Getting there!
Maori did not call NZ Aotearoa its the name of one of the islands of New Zealand as far as one tribe of many see it so this is factually incorrect. Also Maori ceded sovereignty to the queen via the Treaty of Waitangi as they wanted to trade under the British Flag at international ports and the queen guaranteed their rights and protected them as equal to British settlers in return for ceding sovereignty. on what planet does the queen of England protect other sovereigns? She protects her subjects. Everyone knows this and only 1.6% of the nation still play this game of "we didn't cede" because they are trying to grift money for settlement of the modern made up grievance. This is being pushed by the unhinged Maori Party but dispite what the name suggests only has support of 1 in 6 Maori - 5 in 6 Maori do not agree with this tripe. Read the writings of the most celebrated and intelligent Maori Apirana Ngata on this matter and get real facts. this channel is spreading miss information.
im a kiwi and every new zealander should watch this. really puts things into perspective
Hey Spectacles! Just wanted to let you know that as a Kiwi it means the world for anyone to acknowledge our country! And a high quality video on a part of our history I've never heard about is even better!
When I saw the title I thought it was going to be about Hone Heke.
This is such a great video! Te Tiriti o Waitangi is covered a lot here in New Zealand, but not the events following it. The Māori pronunciations are quite painful, but this is really well researched and shows a great respect for the culture. You've gained a subscriber!
Don't shame him for using Te Reo, his pronounciation is better than a lot of NZ Pakeha.
@@juanjuan5698 is that what you told yourself when ALL Maori students were smarter than you?
@@juanjuan5698 there is no racism is saying that New Zealand European have trouble pronouncing Māori language, in many cases they choose to pronounce it how they feel it should sound, rather than pronouncing it correctly, but as I made a point in saying was NOT to shame people who are at least are trying.
What you have said is OUTRIGHT racism. Just because you don't see people in your chosen subject, doesn't mean they aren't as smart OR ARE LESSER THAN EVERYONE ELSE.
@@subculturenz
Just for context what did juan say?
@@agent1485 can't really say what he said because it was outright racist. I already referenced what he said in that post.
as a Maori im embarrased we have foreigners teaching us what we should have been taught in school, from elders, or even strangers with banger stories of history. but instead we have outsiders teaching us what our government hides from us. Sir, Thank you Sir.
Had the Maori won they would have made new zealand become a third world African dispot.
1:56 There is one biiiig thing Spectacle got wrong about the Treaty of Waitangi (Source, I live in New Zealand, doesn't mean I'm more knowledgeable but the treaty is a unavoidable topic in NZ history and is still considered a founding document)
The treaty of Waitangi, I'll call it "TOW", was a document that was written in two languages; English and Maori. The intention of it was the English side of the treaty, which goal's Spectacle got spot on, however the translation into Maori was perfectly awful. As in, it was translated well enough to read but translated into something else entirely.
The english side of TOW said in a TDLR fashion "The crown would have the land"
The Maori side of TOW said in a TDLR fashion "The tribes would have the land" because the Maori language had no concept of what the crown was, so rather than use use the english word they translated to it. And you might think "Oh, but that's your TDLR summery of the whole cluster fuck, surely the whole document wasn't like that"... the whole document was like that. Instead of using the plain english words, the treaty used words which the Maori would conceptually understand, which rewrote their side of TOW into giving the maori all the land.
Effectively, TWO promised in two different ways that both the british and the Maori would own all the land, not that they'd have their own separate areas as Spectacle suggested.
Tbh, I'm still on the fence if it was a genuine mistake or the british being dicks again, but when explaining it to others I try to make it out as a mistake, because often where there seems to be malice is usually just idiocy.
Idiocy I think tbh
For reference: TL;DR, for "Too long; Didn't Read", not TDLR for... *shrug*. Not super important, I just tend not notice stuff like that.
I'd give decent odds that at the time it was 'best attempt to actually translate what the people are acutally agreeing to for those Maori who could not read the English version (which was to be the actual legal document)'. And, of course, while there were a number of Maori who could read English perfectly well by that point, the number who couldn't was still 'most of them'. Doesn't even really require any idiocy, just the limitations of translation (much more difficult than most give it credit for when the languages in question lack relevant common cultural references to work from).
Following the usual practice of humanity, people (not just the British) being dicks about it came later.
Thank you for bringing this up! It's such an important part that a lot of people don't know about
I've been doing a lot of study on te Tiriti recently, and the mistranslations were because the translators knew that if they translated the English to Te Reo directly Māori would not sign.
Also because the translation was done literally overnight by a missionary and his son who were not native Te Reo speakers, and without the help of native Te Reo speakers.
imo lack of respect to limitations of the language & malice due to lack of consultation and clarification; idiocy in those who (often unknowingly) carried the English version as a substitute for both into history and beyond, when there were identifiable mistranslations from so very early on.
For not-kiwis, there was an incident at one of our museums of National history, Te Papa, this past December wherein pro-te Tiriti (those who _honour the treaty_ that the current government is trying to interfere with) protestors defaced the large exhibition where these two documents are carved into large wood display panels side-by-side (this is not the original document, but that is also there). They spray-painted across the English document mistranslations (from te Reo to English, as opposed to the way it was initially translated). As a lover of art & a student of Information Studies, this really shocked me at first, but their message imo is an even stronger piece of protest art now. I believe it is still being kept up as such. Dude literally abseiled in to protect the message of te Tiriti his ancestors know, done in a way that let the people be heard when parliament began their talks, legend tbh!
Have to switch from the phone to the big screen when the spectacles comes on
As soon as he said “PowerPoint” at 3:36 I knew instantly it was about to be a sponsor read lol
Te Reo Māori is in my opinion the easiest language of an English-colonised people for an English speaker to pronounce, though the vowels are a bit harder for most Americans. It just takes a little care, e.g. your pronunciation of Aotearoa is excellent. One thing many people even in NZ screw up is stress placement, which is with the first long vowel/diphthong and otherwise on the first syllable
Agreed. Even with a small amount of exposure, it seems to be quite easy to adopt. Not too sure why but it doesn't take too much effort.
Insane how good this channel is. Better than anything Netflix makes
Maori did not call NZ Aotearoa its the name of one of the islands of New Zealand as far as one tribe of many see it so this is factually incorrect. Also Maori ceded sovereignty to the queen via the Treaty of Waitangi as they wanted to trade under the British Flag at international ports and the queen guaranteed their rights and protected them as equal to British settlers in return for ceding sovereignty. on what planet does the queen of England protect other sovereigns? She protects her subjects. Everyone knows this and only 1.6% of the nation still play this game of "we didn't cede" because they are trying to grift money for settlement of the modern made up grievance. This is being pushed by the unhinged Maori Party but dispite what the name suggests only has support of 1 in 6 Maori - 5 in 6 Maori do not agree with this tripe. Read the writings of the most celebrated and intelligent Maori Apirana Ngata on this matter and get real facts. this channel is spreading miss information.
Just so you know, there was no Aotearoa to end/destroy. It is a European name. Maori were splintered tribes and there was no concept of the country as we know it. They only had names for the specific islands, and even these different between different iwi
that is true. NZ was a concept invented by European settlers /colonisers. Before then, it was a series of islands with local tribal rule over small areas. With constant inter tribal disputes and fighting. SO back in the old days, it was not a country with, a national government and rule.
Each area was different to live in. You could live in a 'troubled' area with conflict, or live in a peaceful area.
Maori did not call NZ Aotearoa its the name of one of the islands of New Zealand as far as one tribe of many see it so this is factually incorrect. Also Maori ceded sovereignty to the queen via the Treaty of Waitangi as they wanted to trade under the British Flag at international ports and the queen guaranteed their rights and protected them as equal to British settlers in return for ceding sovereignty. on what planet does the queen of England protect other sovereigns? She protects her subjects. Everyone knows this and only 1.6% of the nation still play this game of "we didn't cede" because they are trying to grift money for settlement of the modern made up grievance. This is being pushed by the unhinged Maori Party but dispite what the name suggests only has support of 1 in 6 Maori - 5 in 6 Maori do not agree with this tripe. Read the writings of the most celebrated and intelligent Maori Apirana Ngata on this matter and get real facts. this channel is spreading miss information.
Thanks for covering an incident during the New Zealand Wars. These conflicts consolidated settler control over New Zealand and laid the foundations for the development of NZ as a settler colony.
Maori did not call NZ Aotearoa its the name of one of the islands of New Zealand as far as one tribe of many see it so this is factually incorrect. Also Maori ceded sovereignty to the queen via the Treaty of Waitangi as they wanted to trade under the British Flag at international ports and the queen guaranteed their rights and protected them as equal to British settlers in return for ceding sovereignty. on what planet does the queen of England protect other sovereigns? She protects her subjects. Everyone knows this and only 1.6% of the nation still play this game of "we didn't cede" because they are trying to grift money for settlement of the modern made up grievance. This is being pushed by the unhinged Maori Party but dispite what the name suggests only has support of 1 in 6 Maori - 5 in 6 Maori do not agree with this tripe. Read the writings of the most celebrated and intelligent Maori Apirana Ngata on this matter and get real facts. this channel is spreading miss information.
It's funny hearing an american try to pronounce Māori words
The quality of your videos is incredible. Can't wait until you get the gold button too!
Don't know why he didn't ask a couple of people on how to pronounce things when he was in New Zealand
Maori did not call NZ Aotearoa its the name of one of the islands of New Zealand as far as one tribe of many see it so this is factually incorrect. Also Maori ceded sovereignty to the queen via the Treaty of Waitangi as they wanted to trade under the British Flag at international ports and the queen guaranteed their rights and protected them as equal to British settlers in return for ceding sovereignty. on what planet does the queen of England protect other sovereigns? She protects her subjects. Everyone knows this and only 1.6% of the nation still play this game of "we didn't cede" because they are trying to grift money for settlement of the modern made up grievance. This is being pushed by the unhinged Maori Party but dispite what the name suggests only has support of 1 in 6 Maori - 5 in 6 Maori do not agree with this tripe. Read the writings of the most celebrated and intelligent Maori Apirana Ngata on this matter and get real facts. this channel is spreading miss information.
I love the fact that you travel the world for your Videos, so much effort and love goes Into them and one can really feel that, absolutley great work, keep it going please 😊
You should give a retelling of chunuk bair in WW1 which showed the distinctive differences that were present of how NZ and Austrailia weren't considered an extension of the British empire but simply a part of it.
Which is a handy way to convince thousands of young men to march to their deaths. You can see an example of this today in Russia where men from 5000kms away are being dragged over to Ukraine to die horribly for nothing but this vague concept of 'motherland.'
NZ and Aussie men were cannon fodder to be fed to the guns by the shovelful. You can see exactly what I mean if you spend any time reading about how the Gallipoli campaign went.
@@josephd.5524 every nationality was cannon fodder in that war not just those from the colonies
Indeed. Much of the sentiment of being British continued for decades beyond self-governance. One can still see on many monuments erected in small towns in the middle of wide open country, themes of fighting for Britain.
@@scootergrant8683 I always saw them as being erected as a sign for fighting for the small towns themselves
@@blazerking262 It would be great to get different insights into the mindset of the time regarding who one was fighting for. Considering post-war Australasia actually didn't have much of an Anti-British sentiment like the modern day likes to believe, it would be a fascinating research dive.
After all... Most of them are ancestrally British at the end of the day. There's always been and continues to be that connection.
It's cool learning about Hone Heke in Social Studies in school and then to hear about him acknowledged by the greater internet
The promo transition was smooth 😂
Yo this video is crazy good, the attention to detail is immaculate and the production is crazy good, how does this not have more views????
Maori did not call NZ Aotearoa its the name of one of the islands of New Zealand as far as one tribe of many see it so this is factually incorrect. Also Maori ceded sovereignty to the queen via the Treaty of Waitangi as they wanted to trade under the British Flag at international ports and the queen guaranteed their rights and protected them as equal to British settlers in return for ceding sovereignty. on what planet does the queen of England protect other sovereigns? She protects her subjects. Everyone knows this and only 1.6% of the nation still play this game of "we didn't cede" because they are trying to grift money for settlement of the modern made up grievance. This is being pushed by the unhinged Maori Party but dispite what the name suggests only has support of 1 in 6 Maori - 5 in 6 Maori do not agree with this tripe. Read the writings of the most celebrated and intelligent Maori Apirana Ngata on this matter and get real facts. this channel is spreading miss information.
I’m so impressed by your editing skills! I wish I could learn to edit like that someday
Spectacles u spectacular bastard; ty 4 the content as usual
17:25
“God fights on the side with the best artillery.” -European proverb
++ Big Guns Never Tire ++ -Imperial Guardsman’s Uplifting Primer
then why'd they lose?
@@skuzza405 The people with the best artillery won. That’s precisely what the man was saying.
@@piedpiper1172...except the british didn't have a single military victory during the whole war. that quote is referring to the reason he took up arms, not the reason for defeat. paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/NENZC18460404.2.22?items_per_page=100&page=6
If we had equal ground same technology advancements, we would still roam freely today forevermore.
This is actually decently accurate to what I've experienced and learned from being at most of those places, people and my family who used to live nearby to that region. Could do with some work on pronunciation but overall good work!
Maori did not call NZ Aotearoa its the name of one of the islands of New Zealand as far as one tribe of many see it so this is factually incorrect. Also Maori ceded sovereignty to the queen via the Treaty of Waitangi as they wanted to trade under the British Flag at international ports and the queen guaranteed their rights and protected them as equal to British settlers in return for ceding sovereignty. on what planet does the queen of England protect other sovereigns? She protects her subjects. Everyone knows this and only 1.6% of the nation still play this game of "we didn't cede" because they are trying to grift money for settlement of the modern made up grievance. This is being pushed by the unhinged Maori Party but dispite what the name suggests only has support of 1 in 6 Maori - 5 in 6 Maori do not agree with this tripe. Read the writings of the most celebrated and intelligent Maori Apirana Ngata on this matter and get real facts. this channel is spreading miss information.
Didn't expect to see something from my country on this channel. Good stuff
Weirdly enough, I'm related to Henry Williams on my father's side and to Hone Heke on my mother's side.
My dad says there was a murder in the small town where we grew up. A family of 2 adults and a newborn. The adults were shot from an outside window, but the baby he been constantly fed and kept alive over the time from the murders to when the bodies were found
Harvey and Jeanette Crewe? And 18 month old Rochelle was left "alone" for days in her cot.
Murders still unsolved
@@cindyshirreffs2099 Looking into it it says they were found in a river, I don't think that's the one but thanks for telling me this !! :D
this is polished, professional, and interesting. You have a fantastic channel. I know you'll blow up soon.
Maori did not call NZ Aotearoa its the name of one of the islands of New Zealand as far as one tribe of many see it so this is factually incorrect. Also Maori ceded sovereignty to the queen via the Treaty of Waitangi as they wanted to trade under the British Flag at international ports and the queen guaranteed their rights and protected them as equal to British settlers in return for ceding sovereignty. on what planet does the queen of England protect other sovereigns? She protects her subjects. Everyone knows this and only 1.6% of the nation still play this game of "we didn't cede" because they are trying to grift money for settlement of the modern made up grievance. This is being pushed by the unhinged Maori Party but dispite what the name suggests only has support of 1 in 6 Maori - 5 in 6 Maori do not agree with this tripe. Read the writings of the most celebrated and intelligent Maori Apirana Ngata on this matter and get real facts. this channel is spreading miss information.v
the New Zealand wars are such an interesting topic to learn about, I think the treaty of Waitangi was translated in like 1 night before the signing and the main point of conflict was that I think Sovereignty wasn't a word in Māori and something about "Complete Ownership" wasn't translated thoroughly. Correct if wrong
but every mispronunciation hit me like a truck
Don't forget the guy that was meant to write and translate the treaty got sick so his teenage son did it for him. Also, there was something like 182 different versions of the treaty because they manipulated people into signing them by offering land and other rights to different tribes so every tribe got a different version. Soory has been a long time since I studied nz history. I can't recall exact numbers
You're right about the difficulties in translating such concepts. That's arguably one of the largest factors.
Butchered tf out of his name 0:08
Makaytoo Warra-toe-tarra
😂
It is a good day when Spectacles uploads 😊
Ngapuhi = the 'g' is silent so it is 'Na-pu-he'.
To add to that, this applies to any word that contains “ng” or “nga”, I’m Filipino but raised in NZ, so naturally did not have any issues pronouncing most Māori words. I believe this linguistic characteristic is universal in almost every austronesian language
No, it's not silent at all. This guy just added a syllable.
@@2255223388 I mean all of his pronunciations are pretty off but yeah, it's not silent and it's not as pronounced. It's more just sayingthe "ng" in "singing" with a little less emphasis on the g and more on the n. Definitely takes practice, props to Spectacles for trying.
The nga or ŋa sound aka voiced velar nasal is silent in inuktitut and other inuit-yupik-unganan family languages too, I really don't have any trouble with te reo Maōri despite it and inuktitut being vastly different from each other
@@S3lkie-Gutz Pretty sure it's the same sound as the NG in English 'thing', no? English just... doesn't allow that sound in the onset of a syllable, so English speakers struggle with it when it shows up there in other languages.
Bro great documentary I’m kiwi and learned something new watching this thank you 🙏
I'm from NZ and I didn't know this!
Well it’s something depending on education, most of these stuff are old so if you went school here during the 90s then you would know about 80% of New Zealand history
@@samuellatu3123 The problem is the colonial veiw was taught, not the maori perspective
the waitangi treaty is perhaps one of the most well known events in NZ history, a perfect example of how peaceful doesn't always mean kind.
The sad part is that, all things considered, Aotearoa was lucky. Lucky that the language, customs and name of this nation are still known across the world. Not many island nations and small native communities trampled by the colonisers can say the same.
we don't consider the loss of our sovereignty, the genocide, mass incarceration and large scale disenfranchisement (including and not limited to the banning of our native language) "lucky", thanks.
@@rebeccagibbs4128 obviously not, as you shouldn't. However Notice the inherent luck in your cultures survival no matter how tainted. Many native nations of The Americas are not even recognized by the State, their language and cultures obliterated or forgotten. Sovereignty is unfortunately not given to those who deserve it in their own lands. And the Nations that remain are not respected or supported on a widespread means, still not even called "Native" but "Indian" based on Columbus' mistake believing he first was in India
Most European-Americans genuinely believe and are partially taught Natives are extinct and we aren't even taught it's a bad thing or the inherent cruelty of our government
@@rebeccagibbs4128 Violin playing
@@rebeccagibbs4128what’s the justification? Does leaving one survivor justify a massacre? No, you’re not using that word right and nobody here has tried to justify colonization or said you were lucky to be colonized. It seems like you could have an important perspective and knowledge to add if your responses had actual relevance to the rest of the conversation, even if that ends with saying you refuse to validate a discussion on comparative outcomes of colonization.
lucky is not the word. Why not frame it, the colonisers were less blood thirsty at this stage and noble savage politics meant Maori avoided previously used tactics. Luck is a good thing and my peoples colonisation was NOT a good thing. How hard is it to understand that. Honestly ya'll think you're tough shit debating this here online. Come stand on my Marae and say that we were lucky at the hands of those who wanted to (and some still do) eradicate us and our culture. @@jacksonbarker7594
You should read about the musket wars which preceded the treaty for context. The treaty wasn't about colonization it was about ending a hellish culture of genocide and enslavement. NZ was known as the Hell-Hole of the Pacific at the time and it's a very accurate description. It was a lawless and extremely violent place, the British very definitely did not want it, they had the Indian mutiny to contend with.
Huh
@hyndscs nz Brits are mostly smug libs though no?
the musket wars themselves had little to do with the signing of te tiriti. the musket trade, however, was a factor. the rangatira of ngāpuhi were pushed to sign te tiriti as they feared that any single hapū that signed would had a significant advantage in trade with the British for muskets over the others who would not sign. take te ruki kawiti for instance, he was one of te tiriti's most staunch advocates, saying that signing te tiriti would lead to ngāpuhi being trodden on by the british - he would still sign te tiriti later though, saying that his people pushed him to sign as they didn't want to lose a possible edge in trade with the British. there's no british contemporary account that states that the musket wars were a factor in the writing of te tiriti nor he whakaputanga
@@skuzza405 musket trade in NZ. Muskets entered NZ in the bay of islands and gave far northern tribes a decisive military advantage. It took a long time before Southern tribes could gain sufficient muskets to pay back utu on northern tribes.
Northern tribes then sought British protection under the treaty from revenge massacres.
@@harryflashman4542the musket wars had already mostly ended by the mid 1830s due to the proliferation of muskets meaning most iwi were on an equal footing, so i don't know where you're getting this information from. source?
So happy I’m here before this channel blows up!
This video is fine, but context is needed. This was a localised incident and it’s incorrect to call it a war between Europeans and Maori. It was a war between certain Iwi and the Europeans in that area.
Later battles that the video maker mentions had a myriad of reasons and are distinct and mostly not linked to what happened in the north as discussed in this video.
Nailed it. The brits werent dealing with one race, but dozens of local tribes (iwi) that existed is a state of warlordism before white man came.
Also it was the crown.
The people were still people but some formed militias as the crown failed to protect them from tribal warriors.
Those militias were all recorded and it was barely anyone.
As a kiwi it is always interesting to see a Fourniers opinion
Absolutely fantastic little documentary, New Zealand's formative years are more fascinating than I thought
It’s consuming to think of land grabs as something only of colonial powers. Within New Zealand there were multiple tribes who fought each other and conquered each others land.
And then there's the fun part where most of the scam land sales that caused great upset weren't actually the British Government screwing over the local Maori, they were some random european land developer and his Maori associate getting together to screw over the tribe in a get rich quick scheme exploiting the differences in understanding of land ownership, the locals (both Maori and European) pitching a fit over the result... and the British government officials having no idea how the hell to deal with the Maori model of land ownership when trying to resolve the matter sensibly (if not fairly) and so making ... questionable... decisions in an attempt to resolve things.
Oh, and there's the fun of the group of Maori who decided to get in on this whole 'colonialism' game and charted a European ship to go off and conquer one of the nearby (as such things go) islands that Wasn't part of New Zealand, engaging in a little fun complete-genocide-of-the-locals of their own, even as the British (and later not-actually-the-British-as-such) government of New Zealand was generally pretty keen on Not actually engaging in genocide, for all it's other faults (for reference, I'm talking about Actual genocide here, not 'cultural' genocide, which is mostly used as a justification to NOT do things that would actually Prevent Actual Genocide in the sort of situations where things have devolved to the point where that's a legitimate concern).
As an ancestor of Sir Apirana Ngata - the most famous Maori politician and the man on our $50 note - i can proudly say our people have come a long way since our first engagements - both ethnicity's of tangata whenua. (people of the land) Sadly, there is still much to discuss and come to an agreement/arrangement on, however, i know one day soon the land of Aotearoa New Zealand will cede its ignorance/tall poppy syndrome and other such limitations and finally flourish fully into the land of fortune and grace it has always been.
You, sir, are the most brilliant American I've heard speak on this subject.
Wow, this was a lot better than your previous short video on New Zealand. Thanks for helping bring this piece of NZ history to the wider world.
Brilliant video, deserves more views. Massive respect to NZ as an Aussie, we are so much further behind in relations with our native population.
Great video thank you
I'm from Kerikeri and didn't even know much about this, thank you.
Wild this channel hasn’t blown up yet
I (american) lived in New Zealand for a year and a half and I regret not seeing more of it while I was there. I was fortunate enough to drive from Queenstown to Milford Sound on a rare clear day, and it’s the most breathtaking scenery I have ever seen with my own eyes. No wonder the Māori wanted to keep their lands.
lucky you - I just went in a downpour. couldn't see a damn thing!
But you're totally right.
I've been twice, in sunshine and in a downpour. I thought it was more spectacular with the rain, all the waterfalls coming off the cliffs into the sea.
Hey Harry you got the date wrong at 9:55 it's July 1944 not 1945, was so confused when the next date was January 1945 that I had to look it up. Excellent vid though
Also I had no idea that Hōne Heke flew the US flag. It's my new favourite fact about NZ history, funniest shit ever!
Love your channel guys
Brilliant narrative of the events. Those which I did not know of.
Same deal today. Some of us see the precedents we set by giving up larger or smaller amounts of our freedom every day. Most people just think it’s no big deal.
Holy cow. I felt like applauding after the intro. Was this an original score from Harry? It sounded amazing.
Yes, Harry did the music on the intro! So good.
Thanks, Johnny!!
Never thought I would hear someone use Hone Heke as a Segway for a sponsor.
Man this would do well as a Hollywood movie about Hone Heke
Beautifully made video as always, but how the _whuck_ did you get the _wh_ sound wrong?
because 'wh' as 'f' is a Tainui thing.
@@elLootoKao? Ko te whakaahuatia i te reo Māori katoa o "wh" rite ki te "f" i te reo Pākehā, hāunga te reo-ā-iwi ki Taranaki (ki korā, ka kōrero rātou "w", ehara i te "f"; ka turuki rātou ō rātou ngā "h"). Ka mea rea ka mōhiotia whanautia tērā, nē?
@@walterzamalis4846
In very little maori is wh traditionally pronounced f.
You need to look into the history of the written language, which was created by a european (like the word Aotearoa, itself), who was based in the central north island. Its not normal in the south island either. When creating a written language you dont create phonetic contradictions; the guy had "f," therefore wh is not pronounced "f," especially when youve gone to the trouble to separate 'na' from 'nga.' which is way less of a phonetic difference.
I find it funny when older Maori tell me they cant understand their kids accent, because they learned it in school instead of on the marae ;)
Te Reo is the Tainui dialect, for the same reason the Kingi is Tainui. Looking forward to the regatta at Turangawaewae. Will you be there?
@@walterzamalis4846I have to give mad credit to the (Translated by Google) because this is the most accurate I’ve seen it translate any language to Engrish 😂 if only they had Google translate at Waitangi ay hahah
@@walterzamalis4846 Not at all, Walter. In the South Island's historical Kai Tahu dialects, wh is often pronounced as a w. After all, there's a reason lake Wakatipu has two written forms.
Im from New Zealand and I didn't know this. I feel like we probably should of learnt this in school.
I never would have thought greymouth high school was the best school in nz but it seems that way as we actually learnt all nz history in our elective history class. 😢
That comment i left here was by accident. I was watching a short on my home page, when i wrote the comment it was on the short but somehow transferred to this video
I have mixed feelings about this video. I appreciate that you've made a video about Maori culture, but a lot of the history in this video is very incorrect, and some of the biggest events have just been missed out. Much has been mentioned by others, but one person who's been greatly under represented is Te Ruki Kawiti.
He was Heke's uncle, and my own ancestor. He was the last to sign the Treaty and disapproved of it from the start. Much of the rebellion was joint between their people and the two of them.
At the battle of Ohaeawai, Heke wasnt actually there at all. He'd heen badly injured after the invasion of his own pa and wasn't involved whatsoever. The battle was led by Te Ruki Kawiti, who had designed the fortifications, its often attributed as the first instance of trench warfare being used. Ruapekapeka, again was all Kawitis design, and led Kawiti with Heke in support now that he'd recovered. Neither of these forts were important at all. They were built solely to waste the resources and time of the British on empty, culturally irrelevant spots.
Kawiti was the one who led the attack on Russel/Kororareka whilst Heke cut the flag down, and came to Heke's rescue when Tamati Waka Nene attacked my fighting in hand to hand combat throughout.
The outcome of the war wasn't decisive, the Ngapuhi were under economic pressure for peace, but they didnt sucede to the British. The British had wasted an excessive level of resources trying to defeat the rebellion and did now have peace, but had captured very little in result (as all of those forts had been constructed with the sole purpose of wasting their time in the middle of nowhere).
Kawiti did all of this whilst in his 70s. His son, my great great great great grandfather Maihi Paraone Kawiti would lead reconcilation with the British and eventually the restoration and reinstallment of the flagstaff there today, made and lifted by descendents of the men who fought in the rebellion as a show of good faith.
All that and no mention it was the Americans that taught them a lot of that.
America being a rebellious nation seen an ally in the Maori.
@@jimijamesjowitt No offence but what the hell are you talking about? That's never even been a part of the story. Ever. I don't know if maybe you just want that to be a part of history but the Americans were never involved in this.
Video idea: the killing of Dutch politician Pim Fortuyn in 2002. The Dutch JFK mystery
My Auto- Translation of the title: "How New Zealand made a quadruple murder"
New Zealand was a tribal society where the strongest survived. It was also a land of multiple migrations by boat. Eventually, a tribe would win and those people's and government came on boats like everybody else. They were the British. This is pretty much the history of any country and human history is full of conquests. Even England itself has a similar story with the Anglo-Saxons. The British Empire in this instance was like the Roman Empire. You could surrender and join, or fight.
Congrats on the 100k subs!
It's obvious from this video you gave the Maori language it a good go, I mean the pronunciation was terrible, but your effort was clear. Maybe next time get a Kiwi to go over the words with you first? I would be happy to do it.
You’re so kind in your criticism. I agree with you, although I shamefully admit I was going to be less kind about it.
I went to school with a guy who was named after Hone. I was then informed by my mate on the cutting of the flagpole. I didn't know about the murder beforehand though. Just the flag and following war. Mad respect for Hone he's always been one of my favs in Aotearoa history. I love that you mentioned the seats in parliament assigned for Maori representation. I switched to the Maori electoral roll last year, trying to get my lil bro to switch as well since our mother's side is Maori.
In reality there were two treaties signed the English one and one that was translated into Maori by an Anglican priest and the priest gave the Maori one and altogether different translation
They deny the basic fact they lied… but the truth is the truth
Knowledge and skepticals
Great video it’s interesting to see our history told by someone from outside the country, it’s unfortunate that the history of the New Zealand wars could be expanded on but you would need 3-4 hours to tell that story but thank you for telling the story anyway I very much appreciate you taking the time to respectfully try and explain what made us to the rest of the world
To my shame, this is the most I have ever learned about the colonization of the Maori lands. To my joy- and your credit, Sir Spectacles, I have finally learned an introduction to Māori civilization at the time of British arrival. This doc was an awesome work. I look forward to watching the rest of what you have created.
A fascinating story of resistance by the Maori. Even though they ultimately were defeated by the British their fight was not ultimately in vain. In the grand scheme of things they got a better deal than many other native peoples. Sure there is still a lot of room for improvement, but there is hope that things will improve for them.
How can they improve past being more-than-equal under the law, with Seats in Parliament reserved solely for members of their race (literal systemic racism) and favoritism in social programs?
It is interesting to note that the series of conflicts previously known as 'the Maori Wars' has, in recent times, come to be refered to as 'the New Zealand Wars'... on the basis that it was almost never 'Maori vs European' but a real mixed bag of conflicts which pretty consistently had Maori tribes on both sides of them, and frequently had various Europeans involved on the non-central government side. The whole collection can loosely be termed unification wars, but individually, some where various tribes which the central government was content to leave mostly to their own devices deciding to have a go at taking control of the whole thing, and there was a major religious uprising (by what amounts to a cult of a similar model to those seen doing similar things in other places, right down to believing that those who believed strongly enough were immune to bullets), a couple that are probably arguably more civil wars than anything, various conflicts that arguably weren't really wars in their own right but were big enought to count as skirmishes in the greater mess... and the last conflict basically amounted to the central government deciding that having a 'last village holding out against the invaders' situation wasn't exactly a great idea during World War One and sending a large group of police officers to inform them that their independance had been revoked. Not sure if I'm remembering rightly, but I believe that one didn't even involve anyone actually shooting at each other.
Arugably, there's a fair case to be made that the lot of the Maori people would have actually been substantually better Without most (though not all, quite an important distinction, that) of those conflicts.
@@elLooto When you actually break down what they are and how they work, the Maori seats aren't actually an issue, not actually granting meaningly more representation to any individual than a regular seat would.
Other matters... are a complete mess.
There are areas where the system is still actively racist against Maori.
There are areas where it is actively racist in Favour of Maori.
There are areas that run into problems because those in charge of policy somehow seem incapable of grasping the idea of poor people who Aren't Maori (or maybe pacific islanders)... make of That what you will, but it causes problems.
Then you have Maori Supremacists making a mess of things, Radical Progressives more interested in their ideological dogma than the actual reality of the situation (the UN's bit about native cogovernance makes Perfect sense when you're talking about a few native tribes who mostly don't interact with the wider nation and want to prevent them from being abused, it's complete nonsensical bullshit when said natives all but universally live in the same places under the same economic models using the same resorces in the same ways as the rest of the citizenry.), various parts of the right using rightful opposition to that as an excuse to push another round of pro-white/anti-maori racist nonsense (mind you, this is almost always as a tool, a means to an end, rather than the Goal. The NZ voting public still hasn't quite fallen far enough as to actually elect the malicious and/or deranged, mostly-american-influenced 'far right' (for want of a better term) to parliament. The parties that Do get in are all pretty rubbish regardless of supposed alignment, but none of them are That far gone.)
@laurencefraser the different party's work together for their own agenda that has nothing to do with the people. They take turn and shit of each other while going out the back to shake hands in a job well done. When a minority vote gets to make and change laws that's not democracy. (Helen Clarke's smoking referendum. Majority was against it. Still was pushed though) I haven't trusted and govt party in nz since.
I wonder why Maori seems relatively integrated into New Zealand culture.
I mean, even white people regularly use Maori words and phrases and support changing the name back to Aotearoa.
Edit: that's not to say the Maori haven't been subject to much mistreatment and prejudice and suffered many indignities, but compared to other colonies where no more than a few loan words and nouns have made it into the language, "kia ora" being a common greeting is remarkable.
No one whos not Maori supports changing the name to Aotearoa. New Zealand is what separated the tribal bronze age society from modern civilisation.
Maori did not call NZ Aotearoa its the name of one of the islands of New Zealand as far as one tribe of many see it so this is factually incorrect. Also Maori ceded sovereignty to the queen via the Treaty of Waitangi as they wanted to trade under the British Flag at international ports and the queen guaranteed their rights and protected them as equal to British settlers in return for ceding sovereignty. on what planet does the queen of England protect other sovereigns? She protects her subjects. Everyone knows this and only 1.6% of the nation still play this game of "we didn't cede" because they are trying to grift money for settlement of the modern made up grievance. This is being pushed by the unhinged Maori Party but dispite what the name suggests only has support of 1 in 6 Maori - 5 in 6 Maori do not agree with this tripe. Read the writings of the most celebrated and intelligent Maori Apirana Ngata on this matter and get real facts. this channel is spreading miss information.
2:57 hey man, just wanted to let you know that's not how Ngāpuhi is pronounced. It's nah-puh-hee :) I appreciate your commitment and decication for using te reo māori in this video though, thank you so much!!
11:11 - I'm the most unpatriotic American you'll ever meet but I have to admit, my patriotism gland became swollen with pride at this part.
Why no info on the last war for souverignty? How many died each side, where did it take place and stuff?
as a pakeha new zealander, honestly the british should've left aotearoa tf alone and minded their own business. te titiri o waitangi was intentionally mistranslated by an englishman when he was translating it to te reo māori. it was a con.
If the british left, the french would've taken their place. Colonisation was inevitable.
Europeans definitely had no right to claim Aoteroa.
But the early Maori-British relationship was honestly very beneficial for both sides.
If I could go back and change anything, it'd be unifying the Iwi and settlers into a federation of sorts under the British crown for protection and trade.
For what purpose? it is today one of the greatest and most peaceful nations on the planet, with one of the highest life qualities of all human peoples, whether you be maori or European in descent. or often both as many new zealanders are.
You are welcome for being dragged kicking and screaming into the Free world.
Theres barley any full blooded maoris left, My great grandma was a full maori, That means if britan never came then alot of us wouldnt be here, But that dosent mean it would be bad.
@@kirby4667 are ypu sure?
That's assuming that British influence wasn't also the cause for the maoris dying out.
For all we know full maoris would be much more common without that colonial rule
Thanks for the vid school never did a good job at explaining this to me
Im pakeha and unfortunately theres alot i still dont about our history i know things happened but not how
Great video, but as a NZer I must suggest you check some of this pronouciations.
The glasses at the intro looks like the Vodafone Logo lol
This case kind of reminds me of the Hong Kong extradition law that caused the protest movement back in 2019.
Awesome video man. One nitpick though - ngapuhi "nah-poo-he" not "inga-poo-he" 😂
man you told the story well
Also I can't with you saying it like "mAWrEE"
Inggapooie 2:56
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@@kfcrazymicconturkey Makaytoo Warra-toe-tarra
By the time Britain drafted the Treaty of Waitangi they were already old hands in the business of colonization and therefore the idea that any discrepancies in the document were simply mistranslations is quite frankly rather difficult to swallow the British being masters of the diplomatic double-cross would never have let the acquisition of important new territories slip from their grasp, the fact that their version favors the British immeasurably should really tell us most of what we need to know in regards to the duplicity practiced by white settlers all over the world in this period.
The problem that the British had and still have today is that King William signed He Whakaputanga that was gazetted and proclaims maori their own sovereign people. The Treaty is but an addendum to this document which the governments doesnt like because it is legally relevant, and both clear and concise in its meaning as opposed to the Treaty which is ambiguous and allows debate as to its meaning, when in all reality it means nothing because in law where there is doubt as to its meaning, refer to the previous document.....He Whakaputanga
I'm not so convinced. Talking to scholars on the ground in N.Z, many of whom being Maori, there is a clear consensus that mistranslation without malicious intentions is backed up as a reason. Translation of the concept of 'sovereignty' is one such famous example in academic circles. Effective translation between peoples of previously unknown cultures requires a very comprehensive understanding of said cultures.
The British may have had plenty of experience in translation by your account, but if there are shortcomings in the depth of inter-cultural understandings, therein lies potential for issues in future dialogue.
This is especially noteworthy considering how Maori culture itself differed in many ways just in terms of reading body language. One great example being a fight between peaceful sailors of each side encountering each-other's light-craft for the first time while rowing the coast.
Translation into any language brings a serious level of complexity.
@@scootergrant8683 These so called scholars you have talked too including maori ones, are simpley offering no more than their opinions. These opinions have no relevance or substance in law as determined by the international law courts, which alot of people hang onto to deny maori their legal rights.....why? If you want too come back and ask i will tell you why.
@@normpihere9646 I am merely talking about those I came across in a 200 level legal course.
I don't see what the rest has to do with tea in China as my comment was talking about treaty translational inconsistency. Not contemporary application of case law.
So I do implore you to at least re-read what I and James had to say
@@scootergrant8683 I have, hence my reply to you. You specifically mentioned the Treaty of Waitangi as the inference (im being nice) you have put forward is that as the ""British" were old hands in the business of colonization, how could they get it so wrong against a stone age culture like the maori, therefore the colonizers version must be correct......Lets put this to bed, the international law courts have already ruled on your opinion and that of others , which doesnt correlate with your version. Again, we either honour the law or we say, ""stuff it"", lets forget about it, and go back to raping and pillaging.......what say you scooter boy?
Got to about 3 minutes before I started throwing up in my mouth. In 1841 the Maori name for New Zealand was Nu Tirani not Aotearoa. And the Maori way of life was very hierarchical more akin to feudalism than communalism.
Aotearoa (the word or name) was first recorded / published about 1856..... literally meaning the land of the long white cloud. But Politically meaning the whole of the territory.......... which had never been a concept with Maori. Maori looked after their own tribal area and had many place names for parts all over the country. But not a name for the whole place.
Pre-European, there was no nation, country, unified rule, parliament, kingdom or whatever. It was simply a series of islands with different and often warring tribal groups.
BTW 'Nu Tirani" is correct in the early 1800's. Especially amongst combined Maori tribes from the upper North Island.
Fantastic video, thank you for covering our countries History because it's not really well known outside our own country. While you mispronounced pretty much every Maori word, you made a good effort and did better than most who try.
Thank you so much for the effort you put into pronunciation of Māori words!!! Ka pai!!! Clearly a bit of mahi goes into your work, ka kite.
So many videos about my country that I stop watching in seconds because if they haven’t heard someone say Māori properly then how shallow was their research?
challenge for my fellow kiwis:
take a shot everytime this dude mispronounces the word māori
According to Sir James Bellich, an important NZ historian, Maori came, "within an ace" of winning the wars of the 1860s, Maori's last chance to retain co governance was probably 1868 not 1845.
Also Maori didn't start the war in 1860 to protect their sovereignty, the British attacked them in Taranaki to take all their land and Maori acted in self defence. The British were always going to try to take all the Maori land with or without Maketu.
Lastly, the reason Maori nearly won the land wars was due to superior tactics i.e entrenched fortifications. It doesn't matter how much better your muskets are or if you have the artillery, storming an entrenched position is suicide.
So, the British didnt win because of industrialisation, but because they had a larger army, and a full time army; Maori soldiers had to return home after several weeks to work the fields.
This narrator has a pritty good flow hahha
Given up their rights in order to have "security". Hmmm, sounds like something a founder of America had said. Something like
- those who give up their essential freedoms for a little temporary security deserve neither.
During lockdowns the kiwis gave up the right to a fair trial.
Everyone went "yay!"
Hi, I just stumbled across this video in my Recommendations. You say it was a "quadruple" murder, but Wikipedia says that 5 people were killed.
At 6:35 "It was the first execution in the history of New Zealand." Please clarify- first execution by British authority in NZ? No one ever killed by any authority in the islands before that?
I think the distinction they were making is that it was the first execution as exercise of British jurisprudence rather than the first time it was used as punishment in accordance with local custom (which I’m ignorant of), hence the event’s significance in relation to the sovereignty dispute.
@@stephenkelly207 Before the brittish, the two islands, which had no name, was in a political state known as 'warlordism'
They definitely executed people as a punishment. In at least one case by chasing the offenders from [modern day] Cambridge to New Plymouth. Over a sovereignty dispute. Its a funny little piece of local history at Taupiri.