@@lukecollett24 that’s not why people are getting stabbed lol. There are other ways to discipline children without using violence. My parents didn’t hit me and I’m not out there stabbing people. There is no evidence that children who commit violence does so because their parents never hit them.
You can't really know if you haven't lived it. I am not saying it's a good thing bu it is not as horrible as you are trying to make it sound, just the hitting part, you don;t punch, kick or beat up your kid but a little hitting there and there doesn't hurt. Ask the kids themselves once they have a different perspective.
That's why he did nothing when brendan abused him. Because he thought he deserve the abuse because of what he did to amy. But then the amazing girl said, that ste didnt deserve to be hit too. There were so many times where amy kept pushing ste to report brendan to be police. But he kept refusing and at some point of breaking down, he said that he deserved it. I also remember once he asked brendan why he abused him, and ste said " i just thought i deserve it". What ste did to amy was horrible. They sorted it out and lived together and raised their kids. Ste got help and he grew for the better. If you've watched how brendan used to physically and verbally abusing ste, it was hard to watch. My point is, he knows better from 1st hand experience what it's like to be abused and ofc he doesnt want that for his kids. No matter how terrible you are in the past, noone can lay a finger on your kids. James was right until he abused lucas.
it was foul what James did to Lucas, to make it worse he was going to keep it quite, if Lucas hadn't said something to Ste, ste would probably have not found out
You can tell James knows he’s in the wrong when he tries to explain himself to Ste. I love the graveling. He is like Mac. I’m so happy Ste put his kids first.
CeruleanShadowX OA I hope he won’t become like Mac. But I too am glad Ste’s finally putting his Kids first. After all Gram always did say “Family comes first”.
@@ChelseyLinden he is he lied to Lucas he say he wont do it again he will he like my ex boyfriend he beat me up he what James say Ste does loves james but Leah and Lucas come first but Ste sit lucas down to talk to him and Dillon need know Lucas like him ?.
Melissa Jane OA not to mention he was also abused by that drug dealing, physical abusive, sociopathic, serial killer BB but I can’t forget he abused Amy.
What he did to Amy was awful but he made a 180 ! Ste probably one of the best character development for me at least … he went through way too much but I like where he is at now as someone who really cares for his kids
Yes and now he has to protect his kids from it. Not sure what response you want from him? Should he forgive James because he also did terrible things and take the chance James does it again? I don’t see Ste’s past actions as relevant right now
I feel sorry for Lucas and Ste. What James did to Lucas was very serious. It's a plot that didn't need to happen, but since they wanted to do it, I hope they treat it with the proper seriousness.
reminds me a lot of Ste's scenes with Brendan years ago another guy who had a darkness inside him due to childhood abuse from his dad Ste clearly has a type.
@@MsTinkerbelle87 isnt just lucas falut is James too i was happy when Lucas told his dad what James did now James got hate from Ste and Leah and Lucas "s aunt ??.
What James did was wrong … but Lucas is no angel … he was out destroy his father’s relationship and he bullied others around him about their sexuality.
Absolutely Lucas is no angel and he did things wrong but as you also said what James did was wrong and there are ways discipline without resorting to hitting and false imprisonment
I HATE WHAT THE WRITERS HAVE DONE TO JAMES!!!!!!!!!!!!! I LOVED HIM AND STE TOGETHER. THIS IS WHY I STOPPED WATCHING SOAPS. LIKE DISTROYIN LOVED COUPLES. SORRY ABOUT CAPLOCKS I JUST CBA TURNIMG IT OFF WHILE WRITING THIS COMMENT 😂😂😂😂😂
A one off slap isn't testament to abuse. In my day he'd be lucky if all he got was a slap after the way he's been behaving. He also has been hitting Dillon and both he and Dillon nearly caused a fire by stupidity. They are both old enough to know not to do that and that could have killed someone
@@abdurahim1110 Peri is allowing one of her oldest friends to take the blame for something she knows he didn't do. I wonder if James was Rayne's killer after she abused Romeo, Peri is involved some how and some how Lucas found out and that's why he's been acting up. He was determined to blackmail him over Brent who was no saint as he did kidnap Peri
I’m not saying James was right for what he did but can people remember he was awfully abused by his father for years and that could have an effect on his ways of discipline. However I am not excusing what he did, Lucas is a troubled kid who needs support
I hate how Hollyoaks keeps ruining couples. Like can a new couple ever stay together and be happy?! Also spoiler!! After Lucas constant taunts James and James smacks him they separate for a while and then HO writers make Lucas the one to fight for Ste and James’ relationship. Make it make sense!
Oh my OA I feel sorry for these two I really hope they can work this out. I know that what James did to Lucas was over the line and don’t get me wrong no Child should be abused even a Teenager but Lucas brought that on himself if he hadn’t’ve pushed James and called him (whatever it was he called him) none of this would’ve happened and I know he feels guilty about it. It’s good that Ste’s finally wanting to be there for his own Son and his Daughter Leah but still I do hope that these two will work things out and I also hope that James will continue going to anger management therapy and I hope these two won’t get a divorce. 🥺
No children don't bring abuse on to themselves, there have been times were a child has said something out of pocket to me but I didn't hit them, like Misbah said it doesn't matter what he did, you don't hit children.
Since the new lucas returned he has tried to destroy ste and James relationship, I know James should not have done what he did, but lucas deserved it, also ste ain't a saint
Yes, sadly enough James was lead to believe that being Gay was wrong and bad. 😢. He always seems to sabotage everything. Also why would Ste want to get with James knowing that they were both involved with Harry.
Lucas is a child, and James is an adult. Psychological abuse and physical aggression are not correct and acceptable ways of dealing with a child. He should have gone to talk to Ste about Lucas' behavior, and the two of them come up with healthy and educational solutions to correct his behavior. But he never did that because he never liked Lucas and didn't care about him.
@@ceruleanshadowxIn my day a little slap or a clip around the ear was very common and nobody would raise an eyebrow. We were told to respect our elders. Insolent and impudent behavior like Lucas' towards James wouldn't have been tolerated. Lucas acted the way he did in my day and did awful things he has he'd be lucky if all he got was a slap across the face. We didn’t behave that way not just bc we’d be punished, we we’re just more respectful. Kids like Lucas act like they do because parents and adults allow it because they don’t want to hurt the little monster physically/emotionally when that’s exactly what they need.
Locking him in the shed was far worse and he went too far. Back in my day, a quick slap or a clip around the ear was common and wouldn't warrant causing a big scene thus ruining the Christmas party in the pub, despite Joel's awful singing. The slap was truly an almost instinctive thing in the heat of the moment during an altercation. Clearly a one-off thing (which I hope remains so). Hardly systematic abuse. It's unbearable to watch James portrayed as an abusive monster for trying to deal with an out of control teenager
The hurt in Ste’s voice when he said “my son was hurting and scared of you and I didn’t even know” pulls my heart strings😢🥺
Anyone in the comment section condoning James action towards Lucas, please do not have children.
@@lukecollett24 that’s not why people are getting stabbed lol. There are other ways to discipline children without using violence. My parents didn’t hit me and I’m not out there stabbing people. There is no evidence that children who commit violence does so because their parents never hit them.
@@lukecollett24 Bro, I don't care and no it's not.
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You can't really know if you haven't lived it. I am not saying it's a good thing bu it is not as horrible as you are trying to make it sound, just the hitting part, you don;t punch, kick or beat up your kid but a little hitting there and there doesn't hurt. Ask the kids themselves once they have a different perspective.
I really don’t think after all James has been through he’d do that, stupid writers whyyyy ruin another good man 🥺
There's no excuse for what James did but I noticed that Ste didn't mention anything about when he used to batter his girlfriend Amy around.
he didnt mention Brendan either
My thoughts exactly. They need to address this. It’s ridiculous that he’s so narrow minded now when he was once no different. 🙄
Yeah, he stuck with Brendan.
That's why he did nothing when brendan abused him. Because he thought he deserve the abuse because of what he did to amy. But then the amazing girl said, that ste didnt deserve to be hit too. There were so many times where amy kept pushing ste to report brendan to be police. But he kept refusing and at some point of breaking down, he said that he deserved it. I also remember once he asked brendan why he abused him, and ste said " i just thought i deserve it".
What ste did to amy was horrible. They sorted it out and lived together and raised their kids. Ste got help and he grew for the better. If you've watched how brendan used to physically and verbally abusing ste, it was hard to watch.
My point is, he knows better from 1st hand experience what it's like to be abused and ofc he doesnt want that for his kids. No matter how terrible you are in the past, noone can lay a finger on your kids. James was right until he abused lucas.
@@j04370859 i feels sorry for Lucas his got beat up from brendan and Ste beat up Amy too i hope Lucas get help ?.
I remember ste used to be violent in the past he abused amy
it was foul what James did to Lucas, to make it worse he was going to keep it quite, if Lucas hadn't said something to Ste, ste would probably have not found out
You can tell James knows he’s in the wrong when he tries to explain himself to Ste. I love the graveling. He is like Mac. I’m so happy Ste put his kids first.
CeruleanShadowX OA I hope he won’t become like Mac. But I too am glad Ste’s finally putting his Kids first. After all Gram always did say “Family comes first”.
@@ChelseyLinden he is he lied to Lucas he say he wont do it again he will he like my ex boyfriend he beat me up he what James say Ste does loves james but Leah and Lucas come first but Ste sit lucas down to talk to him and Dillon need know Lucas like him ?.
Oh Ste you abused your son's mother. Thats just as bad or even worse
Melissa Jane OA not to mention he was also abused by that drug dealing, physical abusive, sociopathic, serial killer BB but I can’t forget he abused Amy.
What he did to Amy was awful but he made a 180 ! Ste probably one of the best character development for me at least … he went through way too much but I like where he is at now as someone who really cares for his kids
Yes and now he has to protect his kids from it. Not sure what response you want from him? Should he forgive James because he also did terrible things and take the chance James does it again? I don’t see Ste’s past actions as relevant right now
No it's not😊
I feel sorry for Lucas and Ste. What James did to Lucas was very serious.
It's a plot that didn't need to happen, but since they wanted to do it, I hope they treat it with the proper seriousness.
Everyone’s acting as if it never happened
reminds me a lot of Ste's scenes with Brendan years ago another guy who had a darkness inside him due to childhood abuse from his dad Ste clearly has a type.
But yet he was with Doug and Harry who were the sweetest lol
Brandon was an awesome character
@@MsTinkerbelle87 isnt just lucas falut is James too i was happy when Lucas told his dad what James did now James got hate from Ste and Leah and Lucas "s aunt ??.
@@MsTinkerbelle87harry was so sweet he cheated on ste with james 🤣
Great acting ste -- classic, dripping the drink down the sink
Oooff 👏👏
What James did was wrong … but Lucas is no angel … he was out destroy his father’s relationship and he bullied others around him about their sexuality.
Absolutely Lucas is no angel and he did things wrong but as you also said what James did was wrong and there are ways discipline without resorting to hitting and false imprisonment
I wonder if Leah will ever be told about what Ste did to Amy.
There's no excuse James locking Lucas in a shed and hitting him was wrong end of.
Pretty sure she already knows. I think Ryan told her before Amy died.
@@Gotvelvetcovers OA she did know after she saw Ste yelling at her when Amy didn’t believe him that Ryan was cheating on her. 😔
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4:53 love Auntie Leela’s reaction. Don’t mess with aunties & uncles
I get Lucas is a pain but that doesn't mean James can abuse him I feel sorry for ste
Oh no, Lucas has gone missing. Things are going to make things worse for Ste.
I’m feel sorry for Ste and I just wanna hug him. Especially for James when he abusing Lucas was completely unacceptable.
Justin Rafferty I agree I feel sorry for both James and Lucas and especially Ste. I hope they can work this out.
@@ChelseyLindenWD I want you off RUclips at least 65 years😅
Oooh, Joel has opened his big mouth as Leela told Ste, Leah and James that she’s pregnant in front of everyone at The Dog in the Pond pub. 😮
Kieron Richardson is such a good actor.
If only James been more careful with the mistreatment he's doing to Lucas, Ste wouldn't be upset about that abuse.
This was better than the EastEnders Christmas special haha
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I HATE WHAT THE WRITERS HAVE DONE TO JAMES!!!!!!!!!!!!! I LOVED HIM AND STE TOGETHER. THIS IS WHY I STOPPED WATCHING SOAPS. LIKE DISTROYIN LOVED COUPLES. SORRY ABOUT CAPLOCKS I JUST CBA TURNIMG IT OFF WHILE WRITING THIS COMMENT 😂😂😂😂😂
OMG! Ste told Leah & Leela that James has abusing towards Lucas.
A one off slap isn't testament to abuse. In my day he'd be lucky if all he got was a slap after the way he's been behaving. He also has been hitting Dillon and both he and Dillon nearly caused a fire by stupidity. They are both old enough to know not to do that and that could have killed someone
Ste you shouldn't told Peri about James
I wish James son Romeo about James towards Lucus and abuse him Romeo would be very angry at you
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What fire? I watch all episodes, but sometimes forget bits, because it's so boring...
@@abdurahim1110 Peri is allowing one of her oldest friends to take the blame for something she knows he didn't do. I wonder if James was Rayne's killer after she abused Romeo, Peri is involved some how and some how Lucas found out and that's why he's been acting up. He was determined to blackmail him over Brent who was no saint as he did kidnap Peri
Just what have the writers done to James?! They took away his development and smashed it into bits!!!
Unlike mac James knows what he did was wrong
That's still no excuse of corse but it's somthing
I have to say the way Leela went off on James though
i NEED TO KNOW what happens next😅
It's interesting how he keeps blaming the boy and doesn't accept anything
I’m not saying James was right for what he did but can people remember he was awfully abused by his father for years and that could have an effect on his ways of discipline. However I am not excusing what he did, Lucas is a troubled kid who needs support
Ste‘s made the right decision.
Juliblue6676 WD do you think so?🤔
@@KrisPowell007 he did James remind me my ex boyfriend he did that to me .
I hate how Hollyoaks keeps ruining couples. Like can a new couple ever stay together and be happy?! Also spoiler!!
After Lucas constant taunts James and James smacks him they separate for a while and then HO writers make Lucas the one to fight for Ste and James’ relationship. Make it make sense!
I wanna see the Black American version of this scene.
I don’t care what anyone says. There is no excuse or justification for what James did.
I really hope ste and James work things out
Has everyone forgotten about Amy??
Fabulous. Ste is a real drama queen, like in old movies❤
Oh my OA I feel sorry for these two I really hope they can work this out. I know that what James did to Lucas was over the line and don’t get me wrong no Child should be abused even a Teenager but Lucas brought that on himself if he hadn’t’ve pushed James and called him (whatever it was he called him) none of this would’ve happened and I know he feels guilty about it. It’s good that Ste’s finally wanting to be there for his own Son and his Daughter Leah but still I do hope that these two will work things out and I also hope that James will continue going to anger management therapy and I hope these two won’t get a divorce. 🥺
So what did Romeo do to deserve the time that James hit him?
@@ceruleanshadowx OA he didn’t but I also admit Romeo didn’t deserve it either.
@@ChelseyLinden yes neither Lucas nor Romeo deserved to be abused by that bully, no matter the circumstances
No children don't bring abuse on to themselves, there have been times were a child has said something out of pocket to me but I didn't hit them, like Misbah said it doesn't matter what he did, you don't hit children.
Since the new lucas returned he has tried to destroy ste and James relationship, I know James should not have done what he did, but lucas deserved it, also ste ain't a saint
Did Romeo deserve being hit by James?
@@ceruleanshadowx no
James is turning into his father
Yes, sadly enough James was lead to believe that being Gay was wrong and bad. 😢. He always seems to sabotage everything. Also why would Ste want to get with James knowing that they were both involved with Harry.
I hope they work it out because it was Lucas fault he tried to cause trouble between James and Ste in the 1st place 😡
And the time when James hit Romeo was the adult also at fault then?
Bout time. Tired of all the stupid excuses, made for James. He deserves to be alone. Ste finally stepping up to be a father.
Ste threatens James just like your father Mac and now Ste to put Lucas first. And Ste is leavening his husband alone for good.
When are John Paul and Ste going to get back together?
No offence I have no problem against it but this soap is the most gayest
He will end up in danger after getting out and james will save him well thats what im thinking
1:07 WD what’s in that glass? #Hollyoaks #All4 🤔
James is just mad, go to the hospital mad omg he's ill
Lucas low-key deserved it, he’s been acting like a brat.
I wonder how that goes at Child Protective Services when the parent says the kids “low-key deserved it”
Doesn't matter, any decent parent knows not to hit a child
Lucas is a child, and James is an adult. Psychological abuse and physical aggression are not correct and acceptable ways of dealing with a child.
He should have gone to talk to Ste about Lucas' behavior, and the two of them come up with healthy and educational solutions to correct his behavior. But he never did that because he never liked Lucas and didn't care about him.
@@ninoj3774 exactly and anyone who condoned James' actions does not deserve kids
@@ceruleanshadowxIn my day a little slap or a clip around the ear was very common and nobody would raise an eyebrow. We were told to respect our elders. Insolent and impudent behavior like Lucas' towards James wouldn't have been tolerated. Lucas acted the way he did in my day and did awful things he has he'd be lucky if all he got was a slap across the face. We didn’t behave that way not just bc we’d be punished, we we’re just more respectful. Kids like Lucas act like they do because parents and adults allow it because they don’t want to hurt the little monster physically/emotionally when that’s exactly what they need.
Locking him in the shed was far worse and he went too far. Back in my day, a quick slap or a clip around the ear was common and wouldn't warrant causing a big scene thus ruining the Christmas party in the pub, despite Joel's awful singing. The slap was truly an almost instinctive thing in the heat of the moment during an altercation. Clearly a one-off thing (which I hope remains so). Hardly systematic abuse. It's unbearable to watch James portrayed as an abusive monster for trying to deal with an out of control teenager
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What are these fools getting emotional about?