Phantom planet makes you wonder why do Sam and Tucker even hang out with Danny and friends with him in general. They were cool with him before he got his ghost powers. After he got rid of them, they want nothing to do with him. Especially Sam who’s worse. She a hypocrite calling Danny selfish. She cares about his ghost form not his human form. Has a thing for the Phantom not the Fenton.
Here's how I see it: Some people complain about Sam, Tucker, and Jazz's reactions to this, insisting they were jerks and only loved Danny for his powers. However, even if Butch Hartman is as bad people claim he is now, I refuse to believe he'd write up the characters he helped create so badly, especially in their last episode. So, it must be a misinterpretation on everyone's part. The way I see it, Sam, Tucker, and Jazz were thrilled to be part of Team Phantom at this point and loved helping Danny save the day at this point. But when Danny decided to retire, he forced everyone on to the sidelines with him, leaving them all understandably upset. Tucker was sad that he wasn't going to get to do something he'd really come to enjoy anymore. Jazz was bummed because she barely got the chance to contribute to the team, and thus, hardly got to know the hero Danny was starting to become. And as for Sam,... the core of her character was an activist. She's concerned about the way the world is and wants to make it a better place to live in. As such, she wasn't upset at Danny trying to live a normal life; she was upset at him trying to live a normal life at the cost of being a hero and doing the right thing. The same lesson Peter Parker learned in Spider-Man 2: "Sometimes, to do what's right, we have to be steady and give up the thing we want the most. Even our dreams." It makes more sense this way since, right afterward, Danny redefines his purpose from keeping ghosts at bay to helping those in need as he tries to help the last person he'd like to: Dash. Granted, you could argue that the others could continue to hunt ghosts on their own, like they did in "Girls Night Out" (another great episode), but to be honest, they stand less of a chance at winning those kinds of battles without Danny than they do with. And I think they all know that. So, "Girls Night Out" was just a special occasion.
@@elijahulrich2023 That is still pretty selfish on their part. Danny is the one that always gets hurt, he is the one that has to watch over the others to make sure they are okay and kept safe. It is sad that because they don't get to play hero they get made at the one who was being a hero. They all had selfish reasons to make Danny be something he disliked.
@@bloodmooncomics2249 I think you missed the point of my argument. I thought I made it clear when I got to Sam. The point was that Danny's friends didn't want to play hero; they wanted to be heroes, help those in need. Whereas Danny, looking back at even the first 2 seasons of the show, was indeed selfish and had gotten to the point where he didn't care anymore. Butch Hartman obviously took a lot of inspiration from "Spider-Man 2" when he wrote ""Phantom Planet" as the 2 have very similar premises: "As a threat arises that could destroy the planet, our hero suffers enough personal struggle that he decides to turn his back on the world when it needs him". In both stories, it takes someone close to help them see that being a hero is not about what you CAN do; it's about what you SHOULD do. But if you disagree, that's your choice. Just like Danny's friends in the show, I won't force you one way or the other.
@@elijahulrich2023 You still gave them selfish reasons. Tucker wanted to do it because he enjoyed it. Jazz was upset that she only just joined and didn't get to add to it. Those are selfish reasons. I think what made people upset about it, it that they went straight to angry at Danny and being mean towards him instead of talking to him
Isn't that ironic that Sam is exactly like the creator who pays too much favoritism towards her? One of the many reasons why I never shipped her with Danny and never, ever will, no matter what the fans or the so called 'critics' say about them. And by critics I mean those like WatchMojo and WickedBinge who most likely showed Sam and her pairing with Danny in good light for purpose or something. I really feel sorry for You for going through the worst season ever, man, big congrats on criticising it and the series' many flaws, anyway.
Honestly, if you were saving the people BECAUSE YOU WANT TO from ghost that could hurt them, wouldn't you like to get pay for it? In defense of the MV, they weren't evil, didn't know Vlad was a ghost or evil by any means, and only asked to money AFTER saving the people. It was a fair business (After all that was their job).
I don't understand how anyone can anyone hate this season. Best episodes this show ever did.
Phantom planet makes you wonder why do Sam and Tucker even hang out with Danny and friends with him in general. They were cool with him before he got his ghost powers. After he got rid of them, they want nothing to do with him. Especially Sam who’s worse. She a hypocrite calling Danny selfish. She cares about his ghost form not his human form. Has a thing for the Phantom not the Fenton.
Here's how I see it:
Some people complain about Sam, Tucker, and Jazz's reactions to this, insisting they were jerks and only loved Danny for his powers. However, even if Butch Hartman is as bad people claim he is now, I refuse to believe he'd write up the characters he helped create so badly, especially in their last episode. So, it must be a misinterpretation on everyone's part.
The way I see it, Sam, Tucker, and Jazz were thrilled to be part of Team Phantom at this point and loved helping Danny save the day at this point. But when Danny decided to retire, he forced everyone on to the sidelines with him, leaving them all understandably upset.
Tucker was sad that he wasn't going to get to do something he'd really come to enjoy anymore.
Jazz was bummed because she barely got the chance to contribute to the team, and thus, hardly got to know the hero Danny was starting to become.
And as for Sam,... the core of her character was an activist. She's concerned about the way the world is and wants to make it a better place to live in. As such, she wasn't upset at Danny trying to live a normal life; she was upset at him trying to live a normal life at the cost of being a hero and doing the right thing. The same lesson Peter Parker learned in Spider-Man 2: "Sometimes, to do what's right, we have to be steady and give up the thing we want the most. Even our dreams."
It makes more sense this way since, right afterward, Danny redefines his purpose from keeping ghosts at bay to helping those in need as he tries to help the last person he'd like to: Dash.
Granted, you could argue that the others could continue to hunt ghosts on their own, like they did in "Girls Night Out" (another great episode), but to be honest, they stand less of a chance at winning those kinds of battles without Danny than they do with. And I think they all know that. So, "Girls Night Out" was just a special occasion.
@@elijahulrich2023 That is still pretty selfish on their part. Danny is the one that always gets hurt, he is the one that has to watch over the others to make sure they are okay and kept safe. It is sad that because they don't get to play hero they get made at the one who was being a hero. They all had selfish reasons to make Danny be something he disliked.
@@bloodmooncomics2249 I think you missed the point of my argument. I thought I made it clear when I got to Sam. The point was that Danny's friends didn't want to play hero; they wanted to be heroes, help those in need. Whereas Danny, looking back at even the first 2 seasons of the show, was indeed selfish and had gotten to the point where he didn't care anymore.
Butch Hartman obviously took a lot of inspiration from "Spider-Man 2" when he wrote ""Phantom Planet" as the 2 have very similar premises: "As a threat arises that could destroy the planet, our hero suffers enough personal struggle that he decides to turn his back on the world when it needs him". In both stories, it takes someone close to help them see that being a hero is not about what you CAN do; it's about what you SHOULD do.
But if you disagree, that's your choice. Just like Danny's friends in the show, I won't force you one way or the other.
@@elijahulrich2023 You still gave them selfish reasons. Tucker wanted to do it because he enjoyed it. Jazz was upset that she only just joined and didn't get to add to it. Those are selfish reasons. I think what made people upset about it, it that they went straight to angry at Danny and being mean towards him instead of talking to him
@@bloodmooncomics2249 Well, to each their own. But that's not how I see it.
Isn't that ironic that Sam is exactly like the creator who pays too much favoritism towards her?
One of the many reasons why I never shipped her with Danny and never, ever will, no matter what the fans or the so called 'critics' say about them. And by critics I mean those like WatchMojo and WickedBinge who most likely showed Sam and her pairing with Danny in good light for purpose or something.
I really feel sorry for You for going through the worst season ever, man, big congrats on criticising it and the series' many flaws, anyway.
This show is how legends are made.
Honestly, if you were saving the people BECAUSE YOU WANT TO from ghost that could hurt them, wouldn't you like to get pay for it? In defense of the MV, they weren't evil, didn't know Vlad was a ghost or evil by any means, and only asked to money AFTER saving the people. It was a fair business (After all that was their job).
You expect physics to work in a kids' cartoon?
Bro you're doing too much with this audio. I can't hear anything on this