I keep adding things to the spread sheet. I have made some changes to the info. Like the Three speed box (left side is for % of top speed and right side is % of torque). I keep updating that Controller spread sheet here drive.google.com/file/d/1560TfqH_GPA2I2cIH4BXGgNTTGU3wKB6/view?usp=drive_link
Hey brother, Thank you for talking the time to make this and share such great information. I've been messing with this app for a little while on my Metacycle and I have helped others tune their Metacycles. You have definitely helped clarify a few of the settings that I was a bit confused about. I do really appreciate you for doing this. I have a couple cups of coffee coming your way. 🙏👍👏
@@Corn-ped The only thing I can say is that the configuration for a Hub motor is very different than that of a mid drive. I can definitely share some of the maps I’ve created for the METACYCLE and QS 273 hubs that seem to work great for some of my clients.
hey @jfeliciano15, I do have Metacycle and trying figure out the best controller settings to get rid of slow start. Could you share yours experience and tell me what numbers I should change? Thx
very informative, especially for a guy like me that knows nothing about this stuff. I just bought a chinese scooter with a votol em100 and a QS 2000w motor and a 72v 70AH battery. What I would like to do (once it delivered on 2 months) is just to increase the top end speed to around 75 kmh. So two questions: a) do i need to buy a usb cable with or without CAN? b) what/which setting on the software interface do I change (and from what to what). Thanks.
you could probably need to increase the buss voltage and possibly the RPM limit if there is one set up right now. I am not sure which usb cable you need. My EM200/2 needed the con bus usb cable.
@@Corn-ped yes, in my case I set it to 70amps and 40% ebs, my bms read 28amps of charging, just multiply those 2 to get your desired Regen, 28amps Regen for me is too much it brakes crazy hard so I drop it down to 30% =21amps
Sir i am waiting for next programming Videos 😀... Plez provide me any pdf or video related with programming... Your language are simple and easy to learn 😊😊..
I have votol controller.. So I want to learn to programming... This video is Incomplete.. plez complete this video port setting and page 3 display... You have done very well explanation on this video... Just like that make another complete video...😊😊😊😊
Do you have any idea why none of the settings will change, it says it’s successful but it continues to revert back to the original settings, the only thing that will change is the voltage. Thanks!
The setting stay the same in the app when you restart it. I save the file and have to reload it each time with the saved settings. Is that what you mean?
@@Corn-ped the issue is nothing will save, it says its successful but nothing changes I was wondering if maybe there was another way to save it. Thanks!
@@danejoyce6005 I had same problem to, when changing sports mode current above 100A in my votol em100 controller. Is 100A are the highest limit for EM100 sports mode?
Mine came with my controller. I found these two online. This is the exact one I have and use. www.aliexpress.us/item/3256804684294092.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.3.636d2e467zWZgW&algo_pvid=28e013a3-097b-4ac4-a67c-ca65deeb2895&algo_exp_id=28e013a3-097b-4ac4-a67c-ca65deeb2895-1&pdp_npi=4%40dis%21USD%2125.00%2125.0%21%21%2125.00%21%21%40210318b916920218520831457e0f73%2112000030828486729%21sea%21US%210%21A&curPageLogUid=N3QsJgjfeuMk www.amazon.com.be/-/en/aqxreighto8y3rsgbif/dp/B0BZ1B95JV/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=votol+controller+usb+cable&s=automotive&sr=1-2
Hi and thanks a lot for this nformaton. I was running around in circles with this CAN or without CAN business. Still not clear to me why they add this complexity, but it is what it is. I am going to buy from that URL you sent me. Again big thanks! @@Corn-ped
dude, you wrong about almost of this setting. two columns in ThreeSpeed are not what you said. the left column is the limited speed on each mode ( ex : you set 60% on left column of Low mod, so the speed will be 9000RPM ( in HDC speed ) x 60% = 5400 RPM. And the right column is how much % power you use for each mode ( ex : you set 59% on Low mod, so you will use 250A ( current limiting ) x 59% = 147,5A for Low mode ). you're so wrong dude. anyway i come from Vietnam ^^
Thank you. That makes perfect sense. I tried changing the right side and it didn't do anything. Everywhere I read said the right column didn't do anything except for high in sport mode. I'll try it again with more drastic changes.
@@Corn-ped left column stand for speed ( % speed based on the line HDC Speed ) Right column stand for power of that mode ( % power based on Current Limiting ) If you change left column, you'll easy to see the difference of each mode speed If you change right colume, you'll feel the diffrence of each mode power . Or you can take your bike ride on road, and watching the discharge of BMS at the sametime, you'll easy see the difference
@@Corn-ped and you said the opposite of the truth 😥 changing the right column make so much difference on how much power discharge you use on Low and Mid Mode It just seem to be don't do anything in High Mode - my opinion and my experience tell me that the High Mode and Sportmode using the same Power discharge no matter you change the High Mode right column, but difference of torque/traction
What is the difference between busbar current and current limiting? The right column on page 2 is the percentage of power for the busbar current or the current limiting?@@phamlong3320
Puis-je poser une question s'il vous plaît ? Qu'est-ce qui est le mieux selon vous ? Nuc 24f ou votol em100? Je veux modifier une Smart fortwo et ma trottinette ✌🏻🙏🏻
Hi there what's your thought on the votol EM200 SP controller having a rated boost current of 250 amps and setting the sports mode current limit to 250 amps or greater? Will the controller safely operate for short bursts?
@@Corn-ped I see that you are setting the sport mode current based on your battery pack, which you say is 300A. Does the metacycle battery have this rating? If not, the BM system might shut the system down at 300A....your thoughts?
@@Corn-ped hi thanks for your response... I set mine to 285 amps and the bus bar current to half that. I think that there's a discrepancy between how you described the 3 speed data section of the programming on the video compared to the document that you have linked. In the video you describe it as percent of power in the drive mode and the second column as the additional boost in sport mode. The first column is actually the RPM attainable in each gear and the first two boxes in the right column are the percentages of torque and the third box is a number between 0 and 14 and should be left at 7 according to the programming manual
Page 2 has the mode columns. and the left side of the column is for the percentage of power and the right side is the percentage of speed. Play with the right side to figure out what % eqauls the too speed you want to limit it at. My low mode is at like 35% and it is limited to 30mph.
What is the difference between busbar current and current limiting? The right column on page 2 is the percentage of power for the busbar current or the current limiting?
Hey qwik question I plugged my motorcycle in the wall with the wrong cord then I heard sum thing pop and a little bit of smoke I just got this bike and I don’t knw much can u help thanx
i was wondering if you could help me with a issue i am having with my em200/2 controller. when i ride the bike it keeps cutting out when i use the throttle for more than a few seconds. ? it will power back on if i disconect the battery and it shows no faults on the program app , thanks , Andy.
Hi sir, im using em50 48v. All goods but when i full throttle it automatically cut the power. I need to stop so i can throttle it again. Can you help me where i need to change it?
I keep adding things to the spread sheet. I have made some changes to the info. Like the Three speed box (left side is for % of top speed and right side is % of torque). I keep updating that Controller spread sheet here drive.google.com/file/d/1560TfqH_GPA2I2cIH4BXGgNTTGU3wKB6/view?usp=drive_link
Hello sir 👋, can you be kind enough to help with getting wheel to spin reversed?since my motor is mounted opposite
Nice work. Excellent info on Votol tuning. And the field explanations are super helpful. Thanks for a video that is 100% worth watching!
Thank you!
I must say that I'm very grateful forbthe tinebyou took to do this.
Great work😊
Thank you!
Hey brother, Thank you for talking the time to make this and share such great information. I've been messing with this app for a little while on my Metacycle and I have helped others tune their Metacycles. You have definitely helped clarify a few of the settings that I was a bit confused about. I do really appreciate you for doing this. I have a couple cups of coffee coming your way. 🙏👍👏
Thank you! Anything you have to add? I m just trying to get more info out there. I didnt find much out there.
@@Corn-ped The only thing I can say is that the configuration for a Hub motor is very different than that of a mid drive. I can definitely share some of the maps I’ve created for the METACYCLE and QS 273 hubs that seem to work great for some of my clients.
hey @jfeliciano15, I do have Metacycle and trying figure out the best controller settings to get rid of slow start. Could you share yours experience and tell me what numbers I should change? Thx
You have a new sub! Waiting for part 2 explaining PAGE 3!
Hi I’ve seeing a lot of people asking for page 3 since last year, I wonder when you will upload it
thank you very much. great tutorial
im currentyl converting a vespa p200e to elctric and am going to be using a em-100.....thank you sooooo much fro oding this video....
DERBI !!!! ❤❤❤
very informative, especially for a guy like me that knows nothing about this stuff. I just bought a chinese scooter with a votol em100 and a QS 2000w motor and a 72v 70AH battery. What I would like to do (once it delivered on 2 months) is just to increase the top end speed to around 75 kmh. So two questions: a) do i need to buy a usb cable with or without CAN? b) what/which setting on the software interface do I change (and from what to what). Thanks.
you could probably need to increase the buss voltage and possibly the RPM limit if there is one set up right now. I am not sure which usb cable you need. My EM200/2 needed the con bus usb cable.
Wow! Thank you for this video. 👍👏
Yeah man! I hope it helps.
busbar current is the regen value multiplied by ebs % when regen braking, so you can calculate the ampere value of the regen
Does that make the regen adjustable?
@@Corn-ped yes, in my case I set it to 70amps and 40% ebs, my bms read 28amps of charging, just multiply those 2 to get your desired Regen, 28amps Regen for me is too much it brakes crazy hard so I drop it down to 30% =21amps
@@Corn-ped The busbar value should not exceed the ah of the battery. Is that correct?
Superb... Great vid. So much easier to understand. I having headache when read the manual😅
Thanks!
Very informative, page 3 and port setting explanation please, thank you sir
I am working on it! Still trying to gather all the info.
@@Corn-ped Thank you sir 🙏
Sir i am waiting for next programming Videos 😀... Plez provide me any pdf or video related with programming... Your language are simple and easy to learn 😊😊..
What type of programming are you looking for?
I have votol controller.. So I want to learn to programming... This video is Incomplete.. plez complete this video port setting and page 3 display... You have done very well explanation on this video... Just like that make another complete video...😊😊😊😊
Do you have any idea why none of the settings will change, it says it’s successful but it continues to revert back to the original settings, the only thing that will change is the voltage. Thanks!
The setting stay the same in the app when you restart it. I save the file and have to reload it each time with the saved settings. Is that what you mean?
@@Corn-ped the issue is nothing will save, it says its successful but nothing changes I was wondering if maybe there was another way to save it. Thanks!
@@danejoyce6005 I had same problem to, when changing sports mode current above 100A in my votol em100 controller. Is 100A are the highest limit for EM100 sports mode?
if the wrong update of the Votol EM 50 frimware, can it not be repaired or reset?
subbed. waiting for page 3 and port tab
Thank you! I am working on it. I am also learning a lot more about page 1 and 2! so more to come on that too.
Hi
Great job! Well done! ...but I am still waiting for page 3 to be explained... Thanx!
Greetings James
yeah I gotta get back on that! I was doing research on all the setting and want to make sure I understand it.
Hi. Do you have a URL link (or specific product name and model) as to where you bought your USB to votol controller cable from? thanks.
Mine came with my controller. I found these two online. This is the exact one I have and use.
www.aliexpress.us/item/3256804684294092.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.3.636d2e467zWZgW&algo_pvid=28e013a3-097b-4ac4-a67c-ca65deeb2895&algo_exp_id=28e013a3-097b-4ac4-a67c-ca65deeb2895-1&pdp_npi=4%40dis%21USD%2125.00%2125.0%21%21%2125.00%21%21%40210318b916920218520831457e0f73%2112000030828486729%21sea%21US%210%21A&curPageLogUid=N3QsJgjfeuMk
www.amazon.com.be/-/en/aqxreighto8y3rsgbif/dp/B0BZ1B95JV/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=votol+controller+usb+cable&s=automotive&sr=1-2
Hi and thanks a lot for this nformaton. I was running around in circles with this CAN or without CAN business. Still not clear to me why they add this complexity, but it is what it is. I am going to buy from that URL you sent me. Again big thanks! @@Corn-ped
Where did you get the controller? Can you ask them?
great video
Thanks!
subbed! any update on page 3? also which section allows us to tune acceleration? or is that more or less automatic?
dude, you wrong about almost of this setting. two columns in ThreeSpeed are not what you said. the left column is the limited speed on each mode ( ex : you set 60% on left column of Low mod, so the speed will be 9000RPM ( in HDC speed ) x 60% = 5400 RPM. And the right column is how much % power you use for each mode ( ex : you set 59% on Low mod, so you will use 250A ( current limiting ) x 59% = 147,5A for Low mode ). you're so wrong dude. anyway i come from Vietnam ^^
Thank you. That makes perfect sense. I tried changing the right side and it didn't do anything. Everywhere I read said the right column didn't do anything except for high in sport mode. I'll try it again with more drastic changes.
@@Corn-ped left column stand for speed ( % speed based on the line HDC Speed )
Right column stand for power of that mode ( % power based on Current Limiting )
If you change left column, you'll easy to see the difference of each mode speed
If you change right colume, you'll feel the diffrence of each mode power . Or you can take your bike ride on road, and watching the discharge of BMS at the sametime, you'll easy see the difference
@@Corn-ped and you said the opposite of the truth 😥 changing the right column make so much difference on how much power discharge you use on Low and Mid Mode
It just seem to be don't do anything in High Mode - my opinion and my experience tell me that the High Mode and Sportmode using the same Power discharge no matter you change the High Mode right column, but difference of torque/traction
Thats great to hear! I updated my spread sheet with that info. I will mess that that today. Thanks for the info.
What is the difference between busbar current and current limiting? The right column on page 2 is the percentage of power for the busbar current or the current limiting?@@phamlong3320
Thank you for the video. I have mine but why is my low brake or as engine brake is not working? Could you please help me.
Hello.
I have my controller set with no regen, but when I go down a Hill it feels like engine braking. Hiw cab leave it free?
Thanks
Puis-je poser une question s'il vous plaît ? Qu'est-ce qui est le mieux selon vous ?
Nuc 24f ou votol em100?
Je veux modifier une Smart fortwo et ma trottinette ✌🏻🙏🏻
My votol em100 controller cant setting sport mode current above 100A, beside my bms current limit is 150A
Hi there what's your thought on the votol EM200 SP controller having a rated boost current of 250 amps and setting the sports mode current limit to 250 amps or greater? Will the controller safely operate for short bursts?
I have mine set to 300 and it's been fine...
@@Corn-ped I see that you are setting the sport mode current based on your battery pack, which you say is 300A. Does the metacycle battery have this rating? If not, the BM system might shut the system down at 300A....your thoughts?
I am not sure what the metacycle has for a battery rating. If the battery is not rated for it, the BMS should shut it down.
@@Corn-ped hi thanks for your response... I set mine to 285 amps and the bus bar current to half that. I think that there's a discrepancy between how you described the 3 speed data section of the programming on the video compared to the document that you have linked. In the video you describe it as percent of power in the drive mode and the second column as the additional boost in sport mode. The first column is actually the RPM attainable in each gear and the first two boxes in the right column are the percentages of torque and the third box is a number between 0 and 14 and should be left at 7 according to the programming manual
@@bshul10 yeah totally. I Wish I could edit the video.. I was still trying to figure stuff out
Can i turn off the HDC enable mode and the bike should not have any problem?
Yeah. Then it off and you'll have as high or rpm as the bike a go
Is there an easy way to limit speed so it doesn't go above 50kph or something like that?
Page 2 has the mode columns. and the left side of the column is for the percentage of power and the right side is the percentage of speed. Play with the right side to figure out what % eqauls the too speed you want to limit it at. My low mode is at like 35% and it is limited to 30mph.
@@Corn-ped That's amazing, thanks man.
Were your video for page 3 sir?
Boss may safety features ksi em50 ko . Bago aandar kailangan pang e brake . Pwede pang tangalin na un. O kaya Anong wire kaya Yun?
What is the difference between busbar current and current limiting? The right column on page 2 is the percentage of power for the busbar current or the current limiting?
The right columns control % of power (busbar current) and % of rpm. The limiting current is only when sport mode is enabled.
Thanks for the help@@Corn-ped
Hey bro do you know why it hop at full throttle ?
Gr8 video
votol em 100 for 2000watts hub what best program help me
Hey qwik question I plugged my motorcycle in the wall with the wrong cord then I heard sum thing pop and a little bit of smoke I just got this bike and I don’t knw much can u help thanx
Where did it pop and smoke?
i was wondering if you could help me with a issue i am having with my em200/2 controller. when i ride the bike it keeps cutting out when i use the throttle for more than a few seconds. ? it will power back on if i disconect the battery and it shows no faults on the program app ,
thanks ,
Andy.
most probably battery BMS issue
yeah that sounds like a BMS issue or the controller is seeing too much voltage drop and shuts off.
I have em 150sp controler but i dont know programing pleas help me
Hola pudiste e entender la última página post settings no la tengo muy clara
Hi sir, im using em50 48v. All goods but when i full throttle it automatically cut the power. I need to stop so i can throttle it again. Can you help me where i need to change it?
You could have a voltage cut off, is the battery fully charged? . I have not had that issue
Yes sir. Fully charge when i full throttle test is good. Only the problem when i try into the road test
Busbar Current (A) : from 55 to 30 now throttle working goods. 😅
@@you-noob ohh yeah the em50 might have a limit at 50
Does this controller have cruise? Thx!!
not that I know of.
Thanks I’m not seeing it either.
Pls send me link sir
Hello, can you send to me a draw of controller please?