Bless Father. Forgive my ignorance, but what exactly is it in the canons of St. Cyprian that is being defended, and what kind of objection are the Jesuits raising to it? I am uninitiated. Thank you.
Then why does canon 7 of 2nd ecumenical council say that even Arians are to be received by Chrismation? And most Fathers didn't baptise all converts. St Cyprian is very important saint, however, he is wrong on this issue, since Ecumenical council is more authoritative, also concensus of Fathers. Only arguments for baptism of all before 1453 are St Cyprian and St Basil, that is just not enough. Let's not, in pretending that we are preserving apostolic tradition, completely disregard it.
The problem is your interpretive key is wrong, the presuppositions are not considered sufficiently, and properly. The solution is clearly found in Saint Basil’s Canons 1 and 47. That is St Ciprian IS followed AND his ecclesiology IS the ONLY ecclesiology of the Church, embraced by all the saints AND Councils, with the only caveat being that economy can be applied WHEN the presuppositions are met. See more in the new book which covers all of this and much more: uncutmountainpress.com/shop/product/on-the-reception-of-the-heterodox-into-the-orthodox-church-the-patristic-consensus-and-criteria/
@@OrthodoxEthos But canon 7 of Constantinople and 95 of Trullo clearly says that some heretics aren't received by baptism. If economy is universal, it is no longer economy. Canons of St Basil predate Constantinople, and St Basil in his canons expresses wish for issue to be resolved at council, and it was. St Mark of Ephesus said that baptising Catholics is wrong, he thinks that Chrismation is akribea.
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Bless Father. Forgive my ignorance, but what exactly is it in the canons of St. Cyprian that is being defended, and what kind of objection are the Jesuits raising to it? I am uninitiated. Thank you.
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Then why does canon 7 of 2nd ecumenical council say that even Arians are to be received by Chrismation? And most Fathers didn't baptise all converts. St Cyprian is very important saint, however, he is wrong on this issue, since Ecumenical council is more authoritative, also concensus of Fathers. Only arguments for baptism of all before 1453 are St Cyprian and St Basil, that is just not enough. Let's not, in pretending that we are preserving apostolic tradition, completely disregard it.
The problem is your interpretive key is wrong, the presuppositions are not considered sufficiently, and properly.
The solution is clearly found in Saint Basil’s Canons 1 and 47. That is St Ciprian IS followed AND his ecclesiology IS the ONLY ecclesiology of the Church, embraced by all the saints AND Councils, with the only caveat being that economy can be applied WHEN the presuppositions are met.
See more in the new book which covers all of this and much more:
uncutmountainpress.com/shop/product/on-the-reception-of-the-heterodox-into-the-orthodox-church-the-patristic-consensus-and-criteria/
@@OrthodoxEthos But canon 7 of Constantinople and 95 of Trullo clearly says that some heretics aren't received by baptism. If economy is universal, it is no longer economy. Canons of St Basil predate Constantinople, and St Basil in his canons expresses wish for issue to be resolved at council, and it was. St Mark of Ephesus said that baptising Catholics is wrong, he thinks that Chrismation is akribea.
@@Михаил-ч3н5цbecause the heretics used to triple emerse. they don't do that anymore. it's that simple