This is the same morality problem with aang from avatar the last airbender. Which I which think is what they will do with Deku. He wont kill but will erase the main villains powers without killing him.
@@BOOFIRE191 I quite like the aang arc with this. He was taught not to kill but at the end everyone including past avatars tell him that he must put aside his ideals and do what us necessary to save the world. How he resolved it at the end was a cop out but for a young teens show it was satisfactory.
@@BOOFIRE191 I would've accepted if Aang didn't directly kill him more like put him in a situation where if he doesnt save Ozsai he will die and let him. It would show that while he still wont outright kill he would still do what's needed to save the world.
@@crushglobalists8640 I'm not. Aang is my least favorite character of all time. It has nothing to do with shipping either. I would rather have Ozai win then the ending we got.
unfortunately, I think yes, true heroes cannot be like Batman who never kills, as at times there's no way to prevent evil from prevailing than to kill. The tragedy of it is that the line between a hero that is forced to kill and a villain who justifies his murders with petty ideologies, is very thin.
Technically All Might did defeat All For One believing he had killed him, so All Might had thought he had killed AFO this whole time until AFO popped up again. Like we see All Might with blood on his fists and AFO bludgeoned head and body in front of him, so it’s safe to say that All Might had the full intention of killing AFO and from what he understood he had killed AFO.
Dell12 16 but that wasn’t an official act as a pro hero as all might seems to have not informed the hero governing body as when he comes back he only confides in his police friend. Fatgum as states that heroes only win by subduing villains with no casualties.
The answer to this question is in the episode where the students in the USJ have their encounter with the League of Villains. Tomura Shigaraki is reaching out his hand towards Tsu's head, and Deku unleashes a full-powered smash at him. Nomu intervenes, and Tomura is saved, but if Deku had connected with the full-powered smash, he would be a greasy smear on the walls of the USJ. Would Deku kill? To save an innocent, yes, he would.
Minor Manga Spoiler, HeroAca most definitely will get darker, really soon if they follow the manga as closely as they have so far. I think it will definitely get even darker, especially with the latest manga chapter as of 6-23. Also, if you want a story that challenges the boundaries of good and evil in the HeroAca world, try the spin off manga My Hero Academia Vigilantes. It is set 5 years before the main series starts (so little to no spoilers!) and follows a group of three vigilantes doing their thing.
The way I see it, a True hero must always be willing to save others no matter what. Even if that means putting their own well-being in jeopardy. A hero who kills, should only do it as a last resort, sure it’s easy to admire hero’s that don’t kill, but realistically they would only guarantee a non repentant villain would live on to continue harming other people. A hero must be required to make these tough decisions only if they are the only ones with the power and wisdom to do it.
Let's start a thread on what characters from Class 1A would kill if allowed. I'm gonna go with talking about a lesser focused character, Yaoyorozu. Her point is pragmatism and strategy. She will likely adopt a utilitarian moral code, where the maximum number of lives are saved no matter what. Which means that in some circumstances, she will kill people to save a larger number of people
This franchise is from eastern culture so it is possible morality of dealing with villains/criminals might differ to western culture to an extent. I mean in the Ultraman 2011 manga, Shinjiro Hayata who is Ultraman was criticized for not killing an antagonistic alien. Though, I think the portrayal was weak, if Shinjiro was put in a scenario where he failed to kill the alien, after all non-lethal options have been exhausted, and civilians died for it. Then, Shinjiro would have to realize that killing is necessary part of his role as Ultraman and that he cannot afford to hesitate to utilize lethal force if situation calls for it. I mean it is no different to how cops operate: lethal force must be used if all peaceful or non-lethal options are exhausted. And yes, I agree All for One needs to die. The man is a living being of mass destruction, comparable to the destructive force of a megaton-yield nuclear bomb, with long history of committing atrocious crimes that are enough to sentence him to death penalty. In short, he is way too dangerous and antagonistic to be allowed live. Unless, there is way remove his quirk without risking any civilian causalities then there is no need to kill him.
The though process of justice should not be, "what is the least amount of punishment we can give criminals while still preventing them from committing crimes again?". It should be, "what crime did they commit, how bad is that crime, and what punishment does it deserve?" Prison time is the worst idea for a punishment there is. It forces other innocent people to work and pay for the criminals living expenses, sometimes for their entire life. Even if the criminal has a change of heart at some point, they may still be in jail for years or their entire life regardless. Not to mention, for many criminals, without physical pain, a long "time out" is not a deterrent for them committing more crimes, and they will continue committing crimes in prison and when they get out. Prison also does not compensate a victim for their lost property or other forms of damage. Lashes (whipping punishment) would give physical pain as a deterrent, but would still allow for a criminal who had a change of heart after to return to society and live their life. The number of lashes would be based on the severity of the crime. No victims would be required to pay for their food, shelter or medical care. Crimes in which lashes are not severe enough of a punishment (murder, etc) could result in the death penalty which would remove that person from society. Again, no punishing the victims, and the criminal has no opportunity to re-offend after serving a long prison sentence. Theft should require the criminal to repay the victim many times the original value they stole (7 times multiplier, etc), or receive lashes. These would be actual punishments that would stop crime, but nobody seems to want to punish criminals these days, so idk what people expect to happen....
From my understanding, considering heroes are operating under some strict guidelines and even the UA teachers are trying to teach their students how to act with the least casualties to both themselves and the people around them, I'm gonna have to say no besides the stuff that happens out of their control. Heck, guessing the moment they take a life - be it from what their society classifies as a villain or otherwise - they'd probably be forced to surrender and go to jail or be labeled a villain, if not just a vigilante. Like he only people that have been shown trying to kill others have been the villains, or at least have tried to use their quirks for lethal methods, except for maybe Endeavor, but since the Nomu are not considered human, I don't think they have much issue with that unless the Nomu could withstand such extreme heat or Endeavor just overheated the guy's brain so it passed out. (Like Stain, despite being a zealot, could be considered a hero, but because he is willing to kill heroes he deems unworthy to take the title, he is classified as a villain in their society, even though he ended up gaining fanboys who kind of believe that their society is unjust to certain quirk wielders who just end up turning into villains themselves.) In a world where most everyone has a quirk, yet only a few end up becoming heroes, a bunch end up as villains, and everyone else is a civilian, I don't think killing would be acceptable to anyone there, even if it was self-defense. You'd probably get stripped of the license unless the higher ups decide to back you up because the situation required the elimination of said villain and there was no way to solve this peacefully.
That’s a very good question I’m not sure if the creators will ever give an answer to this question I think I’m probably in the category that they can kill but only under certain conditions
I imagine that he'll actually end up having to kill Shigaraki to prevent Shigaraki from disintegrating a city, or even all of Japan. A case of "Kill the Villian, or let the Villain Kill a bunch of innocent people."
MANGA SPOILERS! Personally I think they're allowed to but only in the most extreme scenarios. The only times we've seen heroes try to kill are during the Hosu incident, Hideout Raid (fighting Nomu) and the Pro Hero arc, and that was Endeavor or the Police who killed in all 3 situations. Todoroki and Bakugo threatened the lives of one of the USJ villains each, but they're disqualified because they're students. Then there's the elephant in the room: All Might vs All for One (round 1) where it's hinted at that All for One was intended to die there and All Might tried to kill him, and should've succeeded. We know that fight was meant to be swept under the rug for some reason and my best guess indicates that he wasn't allowed to kill there. As for if Midoriya is gonna kill, I believe he will. Shigaraki is meant to be the one enemy he can't save, so it'd be like putting down a rabid dog.
Oh man, I'd love to see a massive tone shift. Some of the most legendary shows in existence have such tone shifts and My Hero Academia is already really fuckin' good.
I like your question but the one on my mind that sticks more is will the real powers behind hero society force their licensed agents to kill... There is a certain plot device that is going to come up in Season 4 of the anime that I don't think will necessarily be just something the villains are interested in. We get to see the outright villains in the world of MHA but I wouldn't doubt their are several corrupt yet legally law abiding citizens in positions of power - especially among those who administer the tests and license credentials of professional heroes. The only thing keeping check of the enemies closest to the heroes is that the pros have all the physical power compared to the political leaders. The political leaders keep the pros in check because they hold the purse strings. The broader public's approval is an X factor that is carefully balanced between heroes and everyday authorities like the police. But that trust has been waning on the hero side since loosing the sole pillar that is comparable to no one, Allmight, and his replacement as No. 1 being no way near as indomitable... This next arc is going to lay the seeds for something I think will be the next big shift in the story (as a manga reader I won't even go into details why). Let me pose another question. What is the best way to ensure that no villains can ever be permitted to exist?
One of the major flaws in the Universe of My Hero Academia is the lack of an International Justice based order of Heroes. This league of heroes is the opposite of League of Villains. The League of Heroes have three roles. One to keep an eye on the two known organizations of villains. Their second role is focus on rescuing members of the general public. Their third role is on aiding the local groups of heroes when it is necessary. Of course, some heroes will find themselves killing villains mostly as a result of accidents. For a league of heroes, they must deal with the few rogue heroes who may not mind having to kill any villain on occasion.
Ay, glad to see a fellow MHA fan!👌🏽I’m watching season 4 atm and definitely enjoying it, especially after Deku’s explosive battle with Overhaul. As for if Deku will ever kill...I doubt the story would ever take his character in that direction, but if it does, it would be a very interesting and dark turn that’d give room for major character development. It’d have him not only wonder if he should be a hero due to taking a life, but if he’s worthy of being the current user of One For All as well. Though I can 100% see Bakugou (and I cracked up when you butchered his name) doing so, given that he’s yelling about killing people every other second and uses his quirk, which’s basically the equivalent of a napalm bomb, haphazardly.
If I was in Mha, I’d be scared of a lot pro heroes cause one court case too many, I might get shot in the face by snipe, mauled by the pussycats, or get my head ripped off with Miruko’s legs(though I want that last one to happen.)
Hmmm well colonel boofire191, the questions of ‘can Hero’s kill’ and ‘will deku kill’ is honestly in my opinion based on a number of variables such as is the hero too weak willed to take the life of a villain if it meant saving many more innocent people of the public or is the hero so strong that he believes he holds the right to decide to spare or kill anyone whom is a villain. As well as the situation and the morality that could be thrown in but the true question to answer those questions is what action needs to be done. So in answer all the questions; yes a hero can kill, yes deku can kill; if it means one life is taken in order to save many others than its necessary P.s. great vid boofire missed ya vids
I would say Heroes are kind of like public contracted police force, so they may have certain protections like an officer of the law might, if a hero kills a villian to stop them, they would likely be detained and put on trial, and investigated as to whether it was a justified response (again much like in the case of if a police officer killed someone on duty) If you're asking whether or not it's right for them to kill at all, regardless of whether they'd be legally protected or not, my stance and what I think the stance of the series will be is, they have a duty to do everything in their power to capture a villian alive with as few losses as possible, but never trade an innocent life for a villian
The question is: Is anyone gonna die in this Manga? Logic anwser: First, its a Shounen, and it very rare anyone of the main plot, like Deku and his friend die, because of the Limitation age of Shounen and the gender itself. Shounen is common to see protagonists with a great goal, Like Naruto wants to be the Hokage, Luffy wants to discover the One Piece, Gon whants to be Hunter like his father. Shounens are to the Adolecent-Adult public, more to Adolecent ones, because of the comedy in some parts of the main plot. There are 3 types of Shounen, those who will never kill someone, wich is the case of Boku no Hero(If kill's someone, then will be like just 2 or 3 deaths for the entire history, nothing more then that). and some others like Trigun and Sword Art Online. Those who kill important persons in the plot: Like Naruto, The Seven Deadly Sins, One Piece, Dragon Ball, Demon Slayer, Bungo Stray Dogs. Ant the ones who dont give a shit for anyone in the plot, and the autor starts killing everybody else he dislikes: Like Attack on Titan, Berserk, Hokuto no Ken, Overlord. But this ones for the last are also considered Seinen, wich is a gender to adult+, but still can be classified as Shounens. That's why anime is the most beautyfull thing, they have a lot of difrents historyes, and you can find any type you like it, if you want some more Adult or more relaxed. Boku no Hero is fun, because of the goals of all the MCs and the well constructed they are, better the history.
Honestly I think deku will some day have to do it. I just feel like when there’s mass amounts of lives on the line why would I purposely limit myself to being weaker to save the villain trying to hurt others? The villains in this show have shown that they won’t stop because being evil is essentially ingrained into them. Example toga but I don’t want to spoil recent manga chapters for you
That's a tough question you posed. On one hand I don't want him to do it it's difficult to imagine. But I can see him maybe being in a situation where that might be something he has to do and it's scary
It’s a grappling with the acceptance of being conquered by a culture that holds life sacrosanct whereas this concept was somewhat foreign to the well established imperial warrior class..
As fascinated as discussing these questions are, I don't think Horikoshi will explore these or any other questions he set up in detail. Because to me at least, Horikoshi seems reluctant to follow through on any ONE of the ideas, questions or concepts and their consequences both good AND bad. Take the Pro Hero Arc(Spoilers here) where Dabi shows up to finish off Endeavor and Hawks until Bunny ex Machina shows up at the last second without any insite into his relationship with Endeavor, or at the beginning where Aizawa is established to expel students for meeting his chronically cynical views, only to re-enroll them out of some misguided belief that it's for their "good". You see a pattern?
My take on the question based on what I've seen is that heroes are permitted to kill when justifiably necessary, but they tend to avoid it wherever possible for various reasons. These could be anything from tragic backstories, personal ethics, professional pride, reputation, or even branding. Moreover, Deku *will* kill, but not anybody major or important. I can imagine how that arc goes down... After being let off his most recent bureaucratic leash (and there are a *lot* of those... needing a provisional to take a test to take a class to qualify for Sports Day to impress a scout to gain an internship preparing him to take a test to allow him to job shadow in a hero agency... the real villain of the series must be paperwork, but that's for another comment), Deku gets into an Under the Red Hood scenario where he's dealing with a hostage situation against Rando Lunatic #932 who will kill civilians if Deku doesn't kill him. This happens in real life a lot, and it would be odd for it to not happen in the series. Due to Deku getting more and more Bakugo-like as the series goes on (something we're already starting to see), Deku acts like he'd imagine Bakugo would and goes all-out against RL932, who ultimately dies of his injuries in the hospital. Suddenly the scandal becomes national news. Deku's disciplinary record gets released, forcing Deku to answer for every stupid, self-destructive, and short-sighted thing he's done over the course of the series. Shigaraki will use it for propaganda purposes, naturally, and Deku will feel personally responsible for the ensuing pandemonium. Deku then has to weigh up what kind of hero he is becoming and how he feels on the issue of "is saving everyone and watching them smile worth taking an offender's life". No doubt he'd recite a litany of other heroes who have taken lives in extreme circumstances and try to justify his actions as being similarly the best of a few bad choices (thus falling back on his natural talent of being a living encyclopedia of heroism), and he'd be encouraged to do so by a society largely on his side. Ultimately, while Deku will be legally pardoned by the system (bureaucratic anti-self-defense-rights hell that it is, MHA society will always be utilitarian where it matters), he'll turn back because he isn't, and will never allow himself to become, a brute. That's my take. MHA hasn't always done things the way I wanted it to (I hated the implicit validation of Stain's worldview, I thought the Overhaul arc was tedious and, at times, cloying...), but this is just one writer looking at another writer's pattern of behavior and projecting how that writer might address certain questions.
He'll probably be forced to at some point if the series goes beyond his high school years and into the adult world. and it should be a major plot point.
When the Avengers kill, no one bats an eye. But when Batman and Superman kill, everyone loses their mind. Don't have a problem with Superheroes killing as long as it's in self defense or to protect people. The heroes in Super Sentai, Kamen Rider and Ultraman kill the bad guys, and I don't have a problem with it.
I think this concept is cool so what if there is a person who makes a rule about Villains basically being judged by court even those who are not present. Like they give a particular time limit and he villian has to give themselves up to the authorities and can fight their case otherwise the court will judge them to be eligible to kill by heroes and police basically it's catching villains in a box they have a particular time limit for getting arrested and they might get light sentences if they surrender themselves but if they don't show up their crimes will be judged and death will be judged on them
Also do you think my hero academia will address more darker and some grim dark aspects to my hero academia after the subtle change. For example what would you think if my hero academia characters were exposed to racism or rape
@@jrickducking6685 He's only in hot hot water by the Chinese and we all know how overly sensitive by everything they are when you remember they banned Winnie the Pooh because of those memes that say their leader looks like Pooh.
Its funny that this has turned into pretty much the main foundation of Deku's character conflict in the manga. Like, literally, Deku's entire conflict is whether he should kill someone or not. Fucking called it here 8:04.
depends on the situations i guess. kinda like like cops i guess? i mean if they were allowed to kill all they had to do was get the villians in the water at the USJ attack and yeet kaminari in it too kaminari uses his quirk and bam they are all dead
If Deku ever kills it would definitely be a one, MAYBE two time thing and he will do everything in his power to never do it. Or he'll go Avatar route where his conflict would be about doing the first kill in the first place and eventually declining it
8:47 That's a bit rude to imply that in order to be good hearted you should not k*ll. Is it wrong to take someone's life if they themselves threaten yours and someone else's life?
And THIS is why I think Izuku should’ve accidentally killed Muscular, it would’ve added some great character development with Izuku despising himself for what he did and probably contemplating leaving UA and his friends and All Might have to comfort him and convince him not to leave plus it’ll bring up the Moral and Ethics of this world’s society (which considering what we have seen from Izuku and Todoroki’s childhoods as well as the Stain Arc it isn’t as Black and White as it seems)
I personally think Deku will be put in a psoition where he /MUST/ kill. Not 'it would be easier to kill' because hasn't that already coem up. I'm talking where it is literally 'this ONE person dies, or he does, and by extension a lot of other people do. Deku will be forced to pull the trigger becauseit is a thing that is often every golden age hero's 'one rule.' We've seen thos heroes kill: Superman killing Zod, Wonder Woman killing Maxwel Lorde, Batman killing. It'sgoing to happen. Not tomorrow, not the day after, but eventully it will happen.
Nani? I didn't know you like MHA? Anyway, I don't think Deku will kill a Villain since he got a strong moral value. But the way MHA's Manga is going down, I'm not surprised if this question comes up. It could be interesting to see an arc. Deku, Bakugou, Tododoki see a Villain who plays with their sense of morality with Psychological Mind Games and Do messed up things like Joker in The Dark Knight, Which It can push one of them to dark path and try to kill the Villain. By killing him, they can turn into something worse than him and away the Hero's Path. I think that scenario can happened in the series like look happened to Fast Boi Lida, but worse.
I think Deku will kill to, at the very least, to save his mother or Eri. I can't reveal why without revealing things in the manga but it looks like things may come where he will have to kill to save lives. Mainly due to see the hypocrisy of the world of hero and villains, escalating violence and the roles of heroes in that war, the revelation of secret organizations worst then the league of villains that despise people like Deku, and his possible relationship with One for All and All for One. I also think they are setting up to change what it means to be a hero due to the events that will come. That is all I can say without spoiling things without what I vaguely said above.
All Might didn't try to kill All For One, Endeavor did. He did it in the same way he roasted that Nomu, which is why All For One looks like a burn victim. Not a manga spoiler, just the most plausible explanation for how he got that mug.
I don't know if BOOFIRE191 plays Persona 5 or Other Persona Games. But It could make for a interesting videos since Persona 5 got a some dark and social mature themes.
@@BOOFIRE191 It was at first but I've beaten it twice in new game plus and it does get easier and harder. Just saying tho the soundtrack is phenomenal.
Tbh how haven't all might killed? First he thought that AFO wasn't going to come back and secondary how hasn't all might accidently hit a villain too hard because he thought they were stronger and needed a harder hit.
*sigh* We already had entire arc about this It is literally called Hero Killer arc which was delving into what it means to be the hero and by extension into killing. Cant you people watch/read properly before making videos on some topic?
This is the same morality problem with aang from avatar the last airbender. Which I which think is what they will do with Deku. He wont kill but will erase the main villains powers without killing him.
@@BOOFIRE191 I quite like the aang arc with this. He was taught not to kill but at the end everyone including past avatars tell him that he must put aside his ideals and do what us necessary to save the world. How he resolved it at the end was a cop out but for a young teens show it was satisfactory.
@@BOOFIRE191 don't know u are a fan of the Avatar.
@@pyeitme508 Honestly, in the terms of TLA, who isn't?
@@BOOFIRE191 I would've accepted if Aang didn't directly kill him more like put him in a situation where if he doesnt save Ozsai he will die and let him. It would show that while he still wont outright kill he would still do what's needed to save the world.
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I'm not. Aang is my least favorite character of all time.
It has nothing to do with shipping either. I would rather have Ozai win then the ending we got.
unfortunately, I think yes, true heroes cannot be like Batman who never kills, as at times there's no way to prevent evil from prevailing than to kill. The tragedy of it is that the line between a hero that is forced to kill and a villain who justifies his murders with petty ideologies, is very thin.
True heroes should not rig the justice and political system with anti death penalty figures to ensure the heroes will never be out of a job.
So it's like Best Jeanist said "heroes and villains are cut from the same cloth"
@@revantobias8567 what's that about?
Technically All Might did defeat All For One believing he had killed him, so All Might had thought he had killed AFO this whole time until AFO popped up again. Like we see All Might with blood on his fists and AFO bludgeoned head and body in front of him, so it’s safe to say that All Might had the full intention of killing AFO and from what he understood he had killed AFO.
Dell12 16 but that wasn’t an official act as a pro hero as all might seems to have not informed the hero governing body as when he comes back he only confides in his police friend. Fatgum as states that heroes only win by subduing villains with no casualties.
Can you even regret killing all for one imma just snap his neck first chance i get
The answer to this question is in the episode where the students in the USJ have their encounter with the League of Villains. Tomura Shigaraki is reaching out his hand towards Tsu's head, and Deku unleashes a full-powered smash at him. Nomu intervenes, and Tomura is saved, but if Deku had connected with the full-powered smash, he would be a greasy smear on the walls of the USJ. Would Deku kill? To save an innocent, yes, he would.
We don't know if that's true... We know Deku can subconsciously limit his power.... Something all might reflected on in season 2
Minor Manga Spoiler, HeroAca most definitely will get darker, really soon if they follow the manga as closely as they have so far. I think it will definitely get even darker, especially with the latest manga chapter as of 6-23.
Also, if you want a story that challenges the boundaries of good and evil in the HeroAca world, try the spin off manga My Hero Academia Vigilantes. It is set 5 years before the main series starts (so little to no spoilers!) and follows a group of three vigilantes doing their thing.
The way I see it, a True hero must always be willing to save others no matter what. Even if that means putting their own well-being in jeopardy. A hero who kills, should only do it as a last resort, sure it’s easy to admire hero’s that don’t kill, but realistically they would only guarantee a non repentant villain would live on to continue harming other people. A hero must be required to make these tough decisions only if they are the only ones with the power and wisdom to do it.
My boi boofire doing a video about My Hero Academia? sign me the Allmight up!
The current arc in manga went pretty violent so I think this question will be touched upon pretty soon.
Let's start a thread on what characters from Class 1A would kill if allowed.
I'm gonna go with talking about a lesser focused character, Yaoyorozu. Her point is pragmatism and strategy. She will likely adopt a utilitarian moral code, where the maximum number of lives are saved no matter what. Which means that in some circumstances, she will kill people to save a larger number of people
Shoto Todoroki definitely would. He is willing to be rather cruel in his interrogation of the USJ mook.
Bakugo would kill as a warning
This franchise is from eastern culture so it is possible morality of dealing with villains/criminals might differ to western culture to an extent.
I mean in the Ultraman 2011 manga, Shinjiro Hayata who is Ultraman was criticized for not killing an antagonistic alien. Though, I think the portrayal was weak, if Shinjiro was put in a scenario where he failed to kill the alien, after all non-lethal options have been exhausted, and civilians died for it. Then, Shinjiro would have to realize that killing is necessary part of his role as Ultraman and that he cannot afford to hesitate to utilize lethal force if situation calls for it.
I mean it is no different to how cops operate: lethal force must be used if all peaceful or non-lethal options are exhausted.
And yes, I agree All for One needs to die. The man is a living being of mass destruction, comparable to the destructive force of a megaton-yield nuclear bomb, with long history of committing atrocious crimes that are enough to sentence him to death penalty. In short, he is way too dangerous and antagonistic to be allowed live. Unless, there is way remove his quirk without risking any civilian causalities then there is no need to kill him.
The though process of justice should not be, "what is the least amount of punishment we can give criminals while still preventing them from committing crimes again?". It should be, "what crime did they commit, how bad is that crime, and what punishment does it deserve?"
Prison time is the worst idea for a punishment there is. It forces other innocent people to work and pay for the criminals living expenses, sometimes for their entire life. Even if the criminal has a change of heart at some point, they may still be in jail for years or their entire life regardless. Not to mention, for many criminals, without physical pain, a long "time out" is not a deterrent for them committing more crimes, and they will continue committing crimes in prison and when they get out. Prison also does not compensate a victim for their lost property or other forms of damage.
Lashes (whipping punishment) would give physical pain as a deterrent, but would still allow for a criminal who had a change of heart after to return to society and live their life. The number of lashes would be based on the severity of the crime. No victims would be required to pay for their food, shelter or medical care. Crimes in which lashes are not severe enough of a punishment (murder, etc) could result in the death penalty which would remove that person from society. Again, no punishing the victims, and the criminal has no opportunity to re-offend after serving a long prison sentence. Theft should require the criminal to repay the victim many times the original value they stole (7 times multiplier, etc), or receive lashes. These would be actual punishments that would stop crime, but nobody seems to want to punish criminals these days, so idk what people expect to happen....
Will *Deku* kill? No, never in the show or any direct canon. Will someone like Bakugo, Aizawa, etc? Definetely.
I could definitely see him kill Shigaraki.
i think deku wanted to kill overhaul
Huh, didn't know you liked MHA. Yet another point you've earned in my book.
From my understanding, considering heroes are operating under some strict guidelines and even the UA teachers are trying to teach their students how to act with the least casualties to both themselves and the people around them, I'm gonna have to say no besides the stuff that happens out of their control. Heck, guessing the moment they take a life - be it from what their society classifies as a villain or otherwise - they'd probably be forced to surrender and go to jail or be labeled a villain, if not just a vigilante. Like he only people that have been shown trying to kill others have been the villains, or at least have tried to use their quirks for lethal methods, except for maybe Endeavor, but since the Nomu are not considered human, I don't think they have much issue with that unless the Nomu could withstand such extreme heat or Endeavor just overheated the guy's brain so it passed out. (Like Stain, despite being a zealot, could be considered a hero, but because he is willing to kill heroes he deems unworthy to take the title, he is classified as a villain in their society, even though he ended up gaining fanboys who kind of believe that their society is unjust to certain quirk wielders who just end up turning into villains themselves.) In a world where most everyone has a quirk, yet only a few end up becoming heroes, a bunch end up as villains, and everyone else is a civilian, I don't think killing would be acceptable to anyone there, even if it was self-defense. You'd probably get stripped of the license unless the higher ups decide to back you up because the situation required the elimination of said villain and there was no way to solve this peacefully.
I saw a death korps of Kreig commissar in this video, and this video was good
That’s a very good question I’m not sure if the creators will ever give an answer to this question I think I’m probably in the category that they can kill but only under certain conditions
Given current events in the manga, this kill or do not kill topic will be covered very soon. Especially after what happened to a certain character.
I imagine that he'll actually end up having to kill Shigaraki to prevent Shigaraki from disintegrating a city, or even all of Japan. A case of "Kill the Villian, or let the Villain Kill a bunch of innocent people."
MANGA SPOILERS!
Personally I think they're allowed to but only in the most extreme scenarios. The only times we've seen heroes try to kill are during the Hosu incident, Hideout Raid (fighting Nomu) and the Pro Hero arc, and that was Endeavor or the Police who killed in all 3 situations. Todoroki and Bakugo threatened the lives of one of the USJ villains each, but they're disqualified because they're students. Then there's the elephant in the room: All Might vs All for One (round 1) where it's hinted at that All for One was intended to die there and All Might tried to kill him, and should've succeeded. We know that fight was meant to be swept under the rug for some reason and my best guess indicates that he wasn't allowed to kill there.
As for if Midoriya is gonna kill, I believe he will. Shigaraki is meant to be the one enemy he can't save, so it'd be like putting down a rabid dog.
Oh man, I'd love to see a massive tone shift. Some of the most legendary shows in existence have such tone shifts and My Hero Academia is already really fuckin' good.
I’m glad that you touched upon this, because I was going to figure out something about this for my fanfiction
I like your question but the one on my mind that sticks more is will the real powers behind hero society force their licensed agents to kill... There is a certain plot device that is going to come up in Season 4 of the anime that I don't think will necessarily be just something the villains are interested in. We get to see the outright villains in the world of MHA but I wouldn't doubt their are several corrupt yet legally law abiding citizens in positions of power - especially among those who administer the tests and license credentials of professional heroes. The only thing keeping check of the enemies closest to the heroes is that the pros have all the physical power compared to the political leaders. The political leaders keep the pros in check because they hold the purse strings. The broader public's approval is an X factor that is carefully balanced between heroes and everyday authorities like the police. But that trust has been waning on the hero side since loosing the sole pillar that is comparable to no one, Allmight, and his replacement as No. 1 being no way near as indomitable... This next arc is going to lay the seeds for something I think will be the next big shift in the story (as a manga reader I won't even go into details why). Let me pose another question. What is the best way to ensure that no villains can ever be permitted to exist?
One of the major flaws in the Universe of My Hero Academia is the lack of an International Justice based order of Heroes. This league of heroes is the opposite of League of Villains. The League of Heroes have three roles. One to keep an eye on the two known organizations of villains. Their second role is focus on rescuing members of the general public. Their third role is on aiding the local groups of heroes when it is necessary. Of course, some heroes will find themselves killing villains mostly as a result of accidents. For a league of heroes, they must deal with the few rogue heroes who may not mind having to kill any villain on occasion.
Ay, glad to see a fellow MHA fan!👌🏽I’m watching season 4 atm and definitely enjoying it, especially after Deku’s explosive battle with Overhaul.
As for if Deku will ever kill...I doubt the story would ever take his character in that direction, but if it does, it would be a very interesting and dark turn that’d give room for major character development. It’d have him not only wonder if he should be a hero due to taking a life, but if he’s worthy of being the current user of One For All as well.
Though I can 100% see Bakugou (and I cracked up when you butchered his name) doing so, given that he’s yelling about killing people every other second and uses his quirk, which’s basically the equivalent of a napalm bomb, haphazardly.
If I was in Mha, I’d be scared of a lot pro heroes cause one court case too many, I might get shot in the face by snipe, mauled by the pussycats, or get my head ripped off with Miruko’s legs(though I want that last one to happen.)
Hmmm well colonel boofire191, the questions of ‘can Hero’s kill’ and ‘will deku kill’ is honestly in my opinion based on a number of variables such as is the hero too weak willed to take the life of a villain if it meant saving many more innocent people of the public or is the hero so strong that he believes he holds the right to decide to spare or kill anyone whom is a villain. As well as the situation and the morality that could be thrown in but the true question to answer those questions is what action needs to be done. So in answer all the questions; yes a hero can kill, yes deku can kill; if it means one life is taken in order to save many others than its necessary
P.s. great vid boofire missed ya vids
I would say
Heroes are kind of like public contracted police force, so they may have certain protections like an officer of the law might, if a hero kills a villian to stop them, they would likely be detained and put on trial, and investigated as to whether it was a justified response (again much like in the case of if a police officer killed someone on duty)
If you're asking whether or not it's right for them to kill at all, regardless of whether they'd be legally protected or not, my stance and what I think the stance of the series will be is, they have a duty to do everything in their power to capture a villian alive with as few losses as possible, but never trade an innocent life for a villian
Will Deku kill? Given how against he is to it, yes, definitely. He will do it by accident and deal with some serious ptsd
So when are we gonna get a Punisher-like character into MHA.
The spinoff MHA: Vigilantes kinda have punisher-ish characters
The question is:
Is anyone gonna die in this Manga?
Logic anwser: First, its a Shounen, and it very rare anyone of the main plot, like Deku and his friend die, because of the Limitation age of Shounen and the gender itself.
Shounen is common to see protagonists with a great goal, Like Naruto wants to be the Hokage, Luffy wants to discover the One Piece, Gon whants to be Hunter like his father.
Shounens are to the Adolecent-Adult public, more to Adolecent ones, because of the comedy in some parts of the main plot.
There are 3 types of Shounen, those who will never kill someone, wich is the case of Boku no Hero(If kill's someone, then will be like just 2 or 3 deaths for the entire history, nothing more then that). and some others like Trigun and Sword Art Online.
Those who kill important persons in the plot: Like Naruto, The Seven Deadly Sins, One Piece, Dragon Ball, Demon Slayer, Bungo Stray Dogs.
Ant the ones who dont give a shit for anyone in the plot, and the autor starts killing everybody else he dislikes: Like Attack on Titan, Berserk, Hokuto no Ken, Overlord.
But this ones for the last are also considered Seinen, wich is a gender to adult+, but still can be classified as Shounens.
That's why anime is the most beautyfull thing, they have a lot of difrents historyes, and you can find any type you like it, if you want some more Adult or more relaxed.
Boku no Hero is fun, because of the goals of all the MCs and the well constructed they are, better the history.
Honestly I think deku will some day have to do it. I just feel like when there’s mass amounts of lives on the line why would I purposely limit myself to being weaker to save the villain trying to hurt others? The villains in this show have shown that they won’t stop because being evil is essentially ingrained into them. Example toga but I don’t want to spoil recent manga chapters for you
I feel like it would harm Deku’s mental state to know that he took someone’s life.
That's a tough question you posed. On one hand I don't want him to do it it's difficult to imagine. But I can see him maybe being in a situation where that might be something he has to do and it's scary
should probably make a follow up video for this one ... since Hawks answers this question, though the fall out from that is just starting
It’s a grappling with the acceptance of being conquered by a culture that holds life sacrosanct whereas this concept was somewhat foreign to the well established imperial warrior class..
As fascinated as discussing these questions are, I don't think Horikoshi will explore these or any other questions he set up in detail. Because to me at least, Horikoshi seems reluctant to follow through on any ONE of the ideas, questions or concepts and their consequences both good AND bad.
Take the Pro Hero Arc(Spoilers here) where Dabi shows up to finish off Endeavor and Hawks until Bunny ex Machina shows up at the last second without any insite into his relationship with Endeavor, or at the beginning where Aizawa is established to expel students for meeting his chronically cynical views, only to re-enroll them out of some misguided belief that it's for their "good".
You see a pattern?
Haven’t seen the show in a while got back into it and finished the most current season. Came back to RUclips and found this.
“Hey that’s pretty good”
This is definately going to be address in the manga after the current arc considering the event going down right now
My take on the question based on what I've seen is that heroes are permitted to kill when justifiably necessary, but they tend to avoid it wherever possible for various reasons. These could be anything from tragic backstories, personal ethics, professional pride, reputation, or even branding. Moreover, Deku *will* kill, but not anybody major or important. I can imagine how that arc goes down...
After being let off his most recent bureaucratic leash (and there are a *lot* of those... needing a provisional to take a test to take a class to qualify for Sports Day to impress a scout to gain an internship preparing him to take a test to allow him to job shadow in a hero agency... the real villain of the series must be paperwork, but that's for another comment), Deku gets into an Under the Red Hood scenario where he's dealing with a hostage situation against Rando Lunatic #932 who will kill civilians if Deku doesn't kill him. This happens in real life a lot, and it would be odd for it to not happen in the series.
Due to Deku getting more and more Bakugo-like as the series goes on (something we're already starting to see), Deku acts like he'd imagine Bakugo would and goes all-out against RL932, who ultimately dies of his injuries in the hospital. Suddenly the scandal becomes national news. Deku's disciplinary record gets released, forcing Deku to answer for every stupid, self-destructive, and short-sighted thing he's done over the course of the series. Shigaraki will use it for propaganda purposes, naturally, and Deku will feel personally responsible for the ensuing pandemonium.
Deku then has to weigh up what kind of hero he is becoming and how he feels on the issue of "is saving everyone and watching them smile worth taking an offender's life". No doubt he'd recite a litany of other heroes who have taken lives in extreme circumstances and try to justify his actions as being similarly the best of a few bad choices (thus falling back on his natural talent of being a living encyclopedia of heroism), and he'd be encouraged to do so by a society largely on his side. Ultimately, while Deku will be legally pardoned by the system (bureaucratic anti-self-defense-rights hell that it is, MHA society will always be utilitarian where it matters), he'll turn back because he isn't, and will never allow himself to become, a brute.
That's my take. MHA hasn't always done things the way I wanted it to (I hated the implicit validation of Stain's worldview, I thought the Overhaul arc was tedious and, at times, cloying...), but this is just one writer looking at another writer's pattern of behavior and projecting how that writer might address certain questions.
Imagine he kills in the next manga chapter released after the released after this video
Will Deku kill? Doubt it. Will any hero kill? Maybe. Should a hero kill. You can't save a life without taking one at some point.
He'll probably be forced to at some point if the series goes beyond his high school years and into the adult world. and it should be a major plot point.
Watches video:
This is some good shit.
When the Avengers kill, no one bats an eye. But when Batman and Superman kill, everyone loses their mind. Don't have a problem with Superheroes killing as long as it's in self defense or to protect people. The heroes in Super Sentai, Kamen Rider and Ultraman kill the bad guys, and I don't have a problem with it.
I think this concept is cool so what if there is a person who makes a rule about Villains basically being judged by court even those who are not present. Like they give a particular time limit and he villian has to give themselves up to the authorities and can fight their case otherwise the court will judge them to be eligible to kill by heroes and police basically it's catching villains in a box they have a particular time limit for getting arrested and they might get light sentences if they surrender themselves but if they don't show up their crimes will be judged and death will be judged on them
killing in My Hero is directly addressed in the current arc but it's under unique circumstances
Since the latest arc of MHA: Yes, yes they can. They aren't supposed to and only on secret orders, but yes, they can
Also do you think my hero academia will address more darker and some grim dark aspects to my hero academia after the subtle change.
For example what would you think if my hero academia characters were exposed to racism or rape
* Laughs in manga *
I heard that author in under hot water for naming a villain base on human experiment by the Japanese in ww2
@@jrickducking6685 He's only in hot hot water by the Chinese and we all know how overly sensitive by everything they are when you remember they banned Winnie the Pooh because of those memes that say their leader looks like Pooh.
I know I'm late but they kind of did answer this question in the latest chapter
Its funny that this has turned into pretty much the main foundation of Deku's character conflict in the manga.
Like, literally, Deku's entire conflict is whether he should kill someone or not. Fucking called it here 8:04.
depends on the situations i guess.
kinda like like cops i guess?
i mean if they were allowed to kill all they had to do was get the villians in the water at the USJ attack and yeet kaminari in it too
kaminari uses his quirk and bam they are all dead
Can Superman kill yes in man of stell miove right?
He might have no other choice
If Deku ever kills it would definitely be a one, MAYBE two time thing and he will do everything in his power to never do it.
Or he'll go Avatar route where his conflict would be about doing the first kill in the first place and eventually declining it
I think it depends on the situation and circumstances
8:47 That's a bit rude to imply that in order to be good hearted you should not k*ll.
Is it wrong to take someone's life if they themselves threaten yours and someone else's life?
And THIS is why I think Izuku should’ve accidentally killed Muscular, it would’ve added some great character development with Izuku despising himself for what he did and probably contemplating leaving UA and his friends and All Might have to comfort him and convince him not to leave plus it’ll bring up the Moral and Ethics of this world’s society (which considering what we have seen from Izuku and Todoroki’s childhoods as well as the Stain Arc it isn’t as Black and White as it seems)
Will you do a Season 4 review?
Yes there is. watch season 6 episode 3
I personally think Deku will be put in a psoition where he /MUST/ kill. Not 'it would be easier to kill' because hasn't that already coem up. I'm talking where it is literally 'this ONE person dies, or he does, and by extension a lot of other people do. Deku will be forced to pull the trigger becauseit is a thing that is often every golden age hero's 'one rule.' We've seen thos heroes kill: Superman killing Zod, Wonder Woman killing Maxwel Lorde, Batman killing.
It'sgoing to happen. Not tomorrow, not the day after, but eventully it will happen.
Nani? I didn't know you like MHA? Anyway, I don't think Deku will kill a Villain since he got a strong moral value. But the way MHA's Manga is going down, I'm not surprised if this question comes up. It could be interesting to see an arc. Deku, Bakugou, Tododoki see a Villain who plays with their sense of morality with Psychological Mind Games and Do messed up things like Joker in The Dark Knight, Which It can push one of them to dark path and try to kill the Villain. By killing him, they can turn into something worse than him and away the Hero's Path. I think that scenario can happened in the series like look happened to Fast Boi Lida, but worse.
I think Deku will kill to, at the very least, to save his mother or Eri. I can't reveal why without revealing things in the manga but it looks like things may come where he will have to kill to save lives. Mainly due to see the hypocrisy of the world of hero and villains, escalating violence and the roles of heroes in that war, the revelation of secret organizations worst then the league of villains that despise people like Deku, and his possible relationship with One for All and All for One. I also think they are setting up to change what it means to be a hero due to the events that will come. That is all I can say without spoiling things without what I vaguely said above.
Deku will be the greatest hero that ever lived. Does that mean he wont ever kill? 🤷🏾♂️
I dont think he will ever want to and may be forced to
Wait didn't he technically kill Stain when him and Iida kicked him in the ribs?
No Stain is still alive. He's just in a coma. Nothing ever said that he died from his wounds
ruclips.net/video/k9jZ_qcxivc/видео.html What Superman does in this scene is what I picture Deku doing if he ever goes through this kind of arc.
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While I dont think Deku will kill if given the choice. I do want him to punch Toga's head into chunky piddling cause in hate her.
This vid has aged well
All Might didn't try to kill All For One, Endeavor did. He did it in the same way he roasted that Nomu, which is why All For One looks like a burn victim. Not a manga spoiler, just the most plausible explanation for how he got that mug.
wait few chapter and he will complete destroy afo shigaraki for kacchan death
Deku no but maybe snipe since he uses a giant ass gun.
So how's Persona 5
I don't know if BOOFIRE191 plays Persona 5 or Other Persona Games. But It could make for a interesting videos since Persona 5 got a some dark and social mature themes.
@@BOOFIRE191 It was at first but I've beaten it twice in new game plus and it does get easier and harder. Just saying tho the soundtrack is phenomenal.
@BOOFIRE191 So You didn't like the game?
Spoiler! Endeavour divorces his wife and marries Midnight.
yeah but only bc midnights keeps whipping him
All migth did not end all for one when he had the chance. heroes won't kill.
WTF?! And second
He will kill its inevitable
manga spoiler........
Twice runs away from a battle screaming and crying and Hawks stabs him in the back. R.I.P Twice
Pure pacifists are morally bankrupt.
My crystal ball says that All Might will kill. It would be a bigger hit to Deku than he dying
Tbh how haven't all might killed? First he thought that AFO wasn't going to come back and secondary how hasn't all might accidently hit a villain too hard because he thought they were stronger and needed a harder hit.
@@travus111 Well, is anime. Characters are used to take nuclear blasts to the face and go to back to school next Monday
Barney Stinson thinks they can
What if the Villian is incapable of dying, would it still be considered murder if you kill him once?
I don’t think endeavor cares lol
*sigh* We already had entire arc about this
It is literally called Hero Killer arc which was delving into what it means to be the hero and by extension into killing. Cant you people watch/read properly before making videos on some topic?
My hero academia is overrated