The Horrifying Reality of Bullying in Korea
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- Опубликовано: 27 авг 2024
- A deep dive into the reality of bullying in Korea.
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i just wanted to point out that garam, who was mentioned in the beginning of the video, was proved to be innocent, and pictures came out showing that she was the one being harrassed. the full document showed in the video was released, and it showed that she was found innocent. she was standing up for her friend, whose naked pictures were posted online by the student who made the claims against garam. it was also proved that the girl who accused garam and spread those pictures of her friend got one of the worst punishments, which is to be forced to transfer schools. this was an amazing video and it really explains why bullying scandals are so big in korea, and I don't mean to discredit any of it, i just wanted to make sure that people knew she was innocent. this 16 year old lost her career, got her dreams crushed and was harrassed online constantly by millions of people every day for months across multiple platforms. her face was even on the national news with people calling her a bully, which may even influence her future career prospects, while she was innocent all along. i just felt she needed some justice, specially as she's being used as an example of a kpop idol bully, when she really wasn't, and i wish people would just leave her alone. she's been through enough.
Always sucks when the wrong person is punished. It even sucks more that the same people spreading news to condemn her won't speak up about the accusation being wrong.
@@redgrave4492 exactly. people jumped to conclusions about the case, instead of staying neutral and waiting for both sides of the story and proof. I was keeping up with the story, and the only piece of evidence they released was that document, without the verdict and most of the information crossed out. it didn't even have the school's name, which makes it barely any evidence at all, since anyone could print a paper and cross out some lines. people believed allegations like the one where she hit a classmate in the head with a flowerpot, with no evidence, ans kept harrassing her and creating even more rumours. and when she was finally proven innocent, people were suddenly bored and never mentioned it again, leaving her with this horrible reputation. I remember asking people in comment sections to stay neutral and wait until there was proof, or an official notice saying whether she was innocent or not, and getting trashed for supposedly supporting a bully. and then, when she was proved innocent and i mentioned that in comments, people told me to shut up, that it was old news and that they were annoyed to hear about her. they really just wanted a public execution, and it came at the cost of a 16 year old girl's career and mental health. it was honestly one of the most frustrating scandals that happened in kpop, because the public was as responsible as the people who tried to frame her. had they not completely ruined her reputation by spreading information they didn't know was true, the poor girl could have had her name mostly cleared and been added back in the group.
Everglowup made a good video explaining this! , My pet peeve is I can't really enjoy lesserfim anymore without remembering garam's story and how she was robbed of her hardwork
EXACTLY in fact the girl who garam """bullied""" got an even more severe punishment, she was transfered to another school which is one of the highest grades of punishment for bullies.
@@priscila9006 i forgot about this detail, thank you for mentioning! I'll add it to the original comment
bullying in korea sounds like extreme torture and attempted murder.
yeah we only had vandalism and brawls
In Amercia kids shoot up schools for way less serious bullying. Not saying that's ok. Just stating how insane that level of bullying is. If I was a parent and that happened I'd be doing life in prison for murdering a bunch of teenagers.
Well back in the 80s and 90s bully's used to beat up kids and give them swirlies and shit but I don't think they were burning people repeatedly. Like damn.
It’s just tv show
Exactly. Why are kids that awful to each other?
It’s weird to me that the more severe cases of assault don’t result in arrest. Why do they wait for it to get so bad until after a victim dies to arrest and charge these people.
I have been a K-Drama since 2004 ... I like it. It's really shocking that bullying in a kdrama happens in real life, so disturbing and scary and so sad .... I watched The Glory ... loved Song Hye Gyo there ... I hope the perpetrators in real life get a severe punishment. By the way, thank you for the video (you are so beautiful and poise ...masya Allah) I've been trying to find this kind of explanation about this bullying matter (especially in The Glory), so your video really answer it.
The laws with minors committing crimes there and very lenient, almost just like slap on the wrist, when someone dies only THEN can police really do something, but in some cases they don’t do much either. Also w the class hierarchy there, kids with more successful parents are more likely to be able to get away with these crimes. It’s really messed up
I mean even Child R@p!$t$ get a WAYYY lighter sentence is they plead that they condemn their actions or were under an alcoholic influence. Korea sucks at giving Justice to crimes. Also the reason why you see Korea as "safe" for females. It isn't. They just don't report it because they don't get justice and is looked down upon as almost taboo.
Yeah and some of the witnesses who witnessed it don't even say anything sometimes!
The curling iron situation alone should've landed them in jail. That's gotta be illegal. Or is it okay for citizens to go around burning people when they feel like it?
in korea, "bullying" as it often gets translated to actually means "school violence" and i think that leads a lot of westerners to downplay the severity of the actions and accusations. its why idols being accused of "bullying" is such a severe and career ending accusation, because to the korean public, it's not just name calling. it involves abuse of all kinds (verbal, physical, sexual, etc)
In all over the world every case is different, you cannot put an attempted m!!rder in the category of school bullying.
In all over the world there is cases with teenagers that is way severer then in the kdrama the glory or the penthouse or school 2015, but the dealing with the cases is different, when something like the glory happens it is called an attempted m!!rder and those are called criminals, they go to juvenile with a court and judge to determine the period of the jail time like any other crime.
The teachers will report the incident to the police and an investigation will be initiated and justice even if it takes long time will happens eventually.
In korea they cover every single major crime teenagers does by this umbrella term of school bullying with type of punishment that is used for cheating in exams in every other side of the world.
Armed robbery in korea is considered school bullying they get a punishment by getting expelled for few days and everything is over.
Helding a person hostage, kidnapping and physical harm also putted in the category of school bullying.
That is the major problem with korea, if they separate these crimes from school bullying they will find themselves like any other country with same level of bullying
In any other country in this world a crime is a crime no one is above justice, you cannot use your social status and position in society to influence the justice system.
I see a lot of antibullying organisations in korea over the years screaming of this phenomenal of getting away with major crime by misusing the social status and high position in society.
In korea it is a known fact, if you are a chaebol family you can get away with everything even major crimes, you can do sexual harrassment of a child and do not get punished for it, instead you will be able to punish your victim with the school violence committee system.
Antibullying organisations every year states that over 70 % of school violence committees, the perpetrator is the real victim and bullies use school violence committees like a tool to cause a secondary harm and even a third harm to their victims.
If we are going to talk about the fact that bullying in korea is a severe problem, then let's talk about all the causes that made this a severe problem, not just that it is an existing problem.
Lets see the source before judging anything in this world
The bullying is more than just name calling in the west as well. Its just as ugly and violent.
Sounds more like attempt murder
‼️The problem is in Asia there is no punishment for kids under the age of 18. In Japan a student who was like 16 or 17 knew he wouldn't be punished, so he took an entire bus of people hostage and stabbed four women to death because he wanted to and he knew he would get away with it. And he did. He got a slap on the wrist and like a month in a psychiatric hospital before he was set free. The government protected his identity I think they even gave him a new identity just in case. And now he walks free his crimes completely hidden and unknown to everyone in his life. He's happy and successful and doesn't regret it.
These kids that are really messed up in the head know there is no punishment. And the other kids also know there is no punishment so they just go along with it so they don't end up the next target of the bully leader. There is no incentive to protect the victim no matter how much they may want to and every reason not to interfere.
In the US a kid like that Japanese one would be treated as an adult and given an adult punishment and his identity certainly wouldn't be protected on a crime that terrible. He would have been charged as an adult and he would face adult consequences that permanently affected his life. But it's not like that in Asia and the kids know this and take advantage of it. They can basically do whatever they want as long as they're under the age of 18 and it won't affect their life or reputation in the future. Until the laws change and they stop protecting these criminal kids and start protecting society from them, nothing is going to change. Why would they change if there is no consequences for their behavior? Everyone else is too afraid of becoming the next victim.
To me it seems less like bullying and more like torture, it’s really sad that this is almost normal to hear about in Korean schools
It’s not normal. She’s blowing it out of proportion and making it more then it is and it’s really sad. These extreme cases are not common and don’t happen nearly as much as this girl is acting like it does
@@Bunnybunny5656 Nope it's actually very common indeed and it happens as often as you may think. As terrifying as it is, it's all far too true. You just don't really want to admit it or acknowledge it because you're in denial. 🙁
@@mibukdesjarlais534 sure I am because I definitely didn’t grow up here and go to school here
@@Bunnybunny5656 but you didn’t go to all schools and grow up in all the areas . Just because you didn’t witness a lot of it doesn’t mean a lot of it doesn’t happen 🙏🏾 #BeKind
@@Bunnybunny5656 Your individual experience doesn’t automatically discredit everyone else’s.
That Mongolian case, that wasn’t borderline criminal, that IS criminal. Disgusting. I’m curious if racism is bad in korea
Balance of probabilities suggests it is.
Unfortunately it is bad. I go to Korea from time to time and just because I’m Chinese, they give me nasty looks, hurl bad words (I understand some Korean) and some restaurants even ban me from eating inside until I show my passport that I’m from Singapore and NOT from China.
@@kenyoung6666 oh what the heck..maybe i wont visit korea then. im from the US and US passport but im chinese by my name and looks, so people might be racist to me bc of that o-o
I think it just honestly depends. Everyone has a different experience where ever they go. Some people are more susceptible to negative experiences than others. For me I’m a mix and I hear a lot of stories of people who are mixed experiencing racism but I’ve never experienced it before (then again being mixed is a very broad spectrum)
as a kpop fan for 7 yrs and researched the country... IT IS
I heard from a korean tiktoker that bullying in real life is even worse in the dramas and I felt so sad about that. It is truly horrifying. I mostly learned about bullying in korea from manhwas. The Pyramid Game is a great one that dives into the psychological reasons it happens, but also how one person can make a difference by standing up against it.
To be honest, that's an exaggeration. If it's worse than a drama, it'll be in all the news headlines in Korea for a few days.
@@zeromin6988 you have to realize that the victims don’t really have anywhere to go.
the school will sweep it under to protect its image, and victims will also keep shut as its embarrassing for them.
you cant bring your family name into dirt as sh*itty as it sounds ):
in the end there’s really no set punishment for minors
@@zeromin6988 The burning was pretty common when I was in school.(just like in the Glory except cigarettes were used) I and a lot of other kids avoided toilets because you could either get sexually assaulted or head in a toilet goes and then you get beat up badly. I nearly got strangled when I was 7 (second week of school I think) which was fun. Guy was forced to beat his meat in front of the camera and then he got beaten badly anyway. Getting stabbed with something small was a common thing. Recently a 12 year old girl got her jaw crushed by a 15 year old girl and only reason it was found out was because those idiots filmed it and posted that video online. I am from Northern Europe btw.
@루나 the Pug 🌸 I never watched it so I could not tell you.
@루나 the Pug 🌸 stuff like that actually happen irl
As someone who was bullied, I HATE that people think bullies have it hard in their own lives. Movies often redeem bullies that way and it boils my blood! Because even though it might be like that for some people, it’s RARELY the case.
In my experience, hardships actually make you a more empathetic person. When I meet someone who I think is very empathetic, I often find out later that they were bullied in the past, and I think “yeah, that makes so much sense”. If you have bad parents and start bully perfectly nice people at school, you’re weird.
No, people don’t bully because they have it bad at home. They just have a brain with less empathy. I’m not talking about middle school bullies, since I myself have irrationally disliked people even though they haven’t done anything wrong (I can’t believe I ever did that). I’m also not talking about the people that only have bullied someone occasionally, like the mayor bully’s friends who doesn’t bother you as soon as the “leader” is absent from school. Those people might actually grow up into better people.
I’m talking about that one bully that finds a way to bully you everyday. Those people have something wrong with their brains. Statistics say that you’ll meet at least one psychopath in your lifetime, why wouldn’t it be your bully?
(These are all my opinions, by the way! These aren’t facts, but I strongly believe in them)
I agree!! Regular bullies usually make you stronger. Psychopaths or sociopaths disguised as bullies is freaking dangerous because it downplays the real threat they are: potential murderers.
The thing about abuse is that people deal with it in different ways. Some people decided to never harm another person and another will take from abuse that it is power to do to another person what is done to them. Mental health is tricky like that. Either way both need treatment.
Right, people bullied me, total psychopaths, they literally killed a stray kitten I used to play with. One of them had thrown a pup in fire, alive. I don't know how I escaped but I really don't wanna remember
@@_nupurrd_ that is sooo fucked up...😰glad you escaped!! 👏
The kdrama “the glory” emphasized this. Her bullies lived good lives, way better than hers
i always wonder why China is treated badly while Japan and Korea are put on a pedestal. Am African and lived in china for 6 years and never did i get racially abused(granted it might happen to others) but if i compare from friends who have been in Korea or Japan they have far worse memories
Unfortunately china's people are victims of other countries' political agenda
I think it’s just mainly because the Chinese government is far more corrupt and controlling than Japan and Korea’s. I know that isn’t directly related to what you said, but when people think of China they automatically think of communism so they look down on China.
Us african do get treated terribly in China tho. Did you not see those men beat the Zambian with metal pipes
@@likhwezititus wasnt that video debunked to be in Malaysia. we have to be careful what media we consume
@@likhwezititus I’m pretty sure there’s racism everywhere tho. I’m not undermining it. Racism IS pretty bad in Asian countries because they don’t see foreigners very often so they’re pretty ignorant and susceptible to stereotypes since they don’t get to interact with foreigners very much.
I watched 'The Glory' as well, and Episode 1 was incredibly difficult to get through. Finding out afterward that it was based on a true story is just... devastating. It's just so inhumane.
I think some of these school bullies should be punished as criminals, because what they do is actually criminal. I get that for youths their brains are not fully developed and your empathy centers aren't fully up to snuff yet, but??? Like when I was a teenager I never had the desire to hurt/ punch/ burn someone with a curling iron. It's actually psychopathic. Some of these bullies do not deserve to be protected. And so what if their records are wiped? Will they change? They'll just go out into the workforce as adults and learn more subtle ways of torturing others like psychological tactics. THEY WON'T CHANGE.
That's so true, unfortunately.
I like that drama but was so painfull to watch. I am a teacher in my country and the way that teacher treated the victim made me sick. Bullying is a very serious isue in my country too and we need to take action to prevent it, because is so damaging.....
I couldn’t even finish the first episode. It’s was too much for me
I am from Eastern Europe and one thing that was pretty common here(when I was in school at least) is getting burned with cigarettes. Group holds you and then one or multiple people burn you. Kind of similar to the glory thing.
I noped out in the middle of ep1. It was horrendous.
I've always thought it's so odd how bullying in Korea is extremely frowned upon, yet so many people still do it? I really don't understand that. A kpop idol or an actor can have their life ruined by a false accusation of bullying, yet there are still so many cases of extreme bullying happening? Wouldn't the fact that it's taken so seriously make people NOT wanna bully? I just don't get it.
I mean I see your point but it's not like that. Out of all cases of bullying against idols and actors it's actually very few of them who are actually proven to have committed the acts. Indeed, few bullies are still too many bullies ...but it is also true that knetz (who are massive bullies themselves ) use this very serious accusations to mass bully young adults and teenagers out of their jobs and dreams
It's easier to have a punching bag rather than actually moving for change.
It's easier to point your finger rather than actually looking in and being introspective.
Because Korea is terrible at punishing bullies. Your point would stand in a society that has ZERO tolerance to bullying. Korea isn't like that. Bullies get their records wiped and they continue living their life like nothing happened. In a country like this it's only natural that knetizens are bullies themselves.
@@divx1001 that actually makes a lot of sense! I'm not Korean but since I started learning about Korea I always wondered why knetzs are so cruel sometimes. Yeah the whole internet has this "culture" of pointing fingers and acting like they've done nothing wrong and being cruel and mean to people online for no reason. But knetz are on another level that it would only make sense if they are or once were bullies themselves.
Correct me if I'm wrong or if I'm missing something tho, I did say I'm still learning.
It could be that they're more lenient with minors regardless of the severity which is equally a major issue
I find Korea’s society stance a bit hypocritical.
They don’t do anything while it’s happening but God forbid a rumor comes out some celebrity was a bully decades ago & he/she is instantly cancelled…
Cause how else we going to show such behavior is frowned upon 😂
It is very hypocritical. Unfortunately humans are like that, especially when they find themselves in highly organized societies.
Kpop idols get relentlessly bullied by audience for putting on 10 lbs or having a phone case that says "Girl Power" for crying out loud 🙄... Yet they're probably the same people who hate idols who bullied... It doesn't seem like a big concern there. Seeing things like "go k*** yourself" - "you deserve to d**" isn't uncommon to see in comments.
Lmfaooo, fr bruh.
their society is not a bit but EXTREMELY hypocritical
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I’m from Singapore and I was bullied when I was young because my family was poor. My bullies were from rich families so they got away with everything because all they needed to do was buy expensive gifts for the teachers and tell the principal to persuade my mum that it wasn’t a big deal.
However I took the experience and made it my motivation to do well in my career.
Guess what? Now my bullies are the ones who are begging to work at MY company. Their families also became poorer over the years due to bad life decisions.
To all those who were/are being bullied, don’t worry KARMA IS REAL!!! Just do well in your studies, get a degree and exact “revenge” by having a success career and life!
Nah the trauma will linger. You shouldn't be bullied at all
Happy for you. But karma isn't real. Most of the time the bullies do fine in life especially if they're already rich.
Karma isn’t revenge. You finding peace and happiness despite your wealth is a valuable life. I don’t want to belittle your hard work and efforts but after you have achieved your goals did everyone there is free from class based discrimination or n school ? If you now feel happy and satisfied that your school bullies are getting humiliated and poor, what does that show about you? Are you sure your children tomorrow won’t be the bully just like those kids? Please stop citing bullying as an ambition giver. It is a crime. It motivates people to become powerful and wealthy no matter the cost but not truely happy, while you can enjoy and accept every stage of your life. What is the point of human life then? Should everyone who fails should live in hell? Or commit suicide?
I’m sorry you might be quite young and still in the process of finding meaning of life. Just be happy and value humanity. May you have a beautiful life.
@@Msnovy I don’t have kids because of what I went through but even if I do have kids, as someone who was bullied and still having trauma from the past, do you honestly think I’d condone any kids behaviour (even my own if I do have them) of bullying others?!?
Your words just show how much you DON’T know what victims go through. You’re the one who sounds rather ignorant by saying you don’t want to belittle my hard work and efforts but in reality you ARE belittling my hard work and effort!
You talk about me finding peace? I found peace by NOT exacting physical and/or any form of tangible revenge on my bullies. My form of “revenge” is non-tangible so I think it’s already very magnanimous by just focusing on myself to achieve things which I lacked that made me a victim of bullying in the first place.
@@kenyoung6666 I never meant you want to condone or will condone it in your next generation. But kids pick up on subtle things. One day maybe when you proudly tell them this story. They will think one gets bullied because they lack something. Discrimination of any kibd is sick and bullying, a vicious cycle. You need to heal yourself and slowly you will pay no attention to what your bullies think about you at all. What they did was wrong but you saying you are better because you are richer than them now goes to show you are holding on to their parameters of what is successful. I’m truely happy that you have found your position in the world may be fighting against discrimination is better way for every victim to heal. You never lacked anything except true encouragement and a safe educational space.
That’s not bullying, that’s torture
I agree with you this is considered torture and bullying because bullying is not supposed to be like that maybe bullying has no rules but it depends on peoples mental disorder how the way they choose to bully you because bullying is everywhere so bullying it’s a narcissism situation because bullies they think they’re above you and they’re better than you so they wants is More interesting and more wanted than other people so it’s all about them it’s just like mirror mirror who is the fairest of them all like who is the most wanted more than everyone so this is the reason why people bully because they want things to be all about them everything has to be about them no one else
Exactly, when I was in elementary-middle school kids would make fun of the poorer kids shows, hair and other things such as weight but it would never get physical. Bullying is never okay but this is just TOO far, I feel so sorry for the people who went through this.
😢😢Yes
I remember a South Korean friend of mine that moved to the US due to her dad’s job. She told me about the type of bullying she would participate in with her friends. I was shocked and, thinking back to it, it definitely changed my behavior around her.
Woahhh I’m pretty surprised she told ppl about her bullying other was she remorseful? if someone told me that I wouldn’t know how to act
In the USA I feel kids will at least fight back
What did she tell you?
@@You_need_help161 my Korean bully actually told other guys what he did to me and he used to laugh about it. He thought I deserved it because I was “weird” and didn’t conform to social norms. He even said it was to teach me to “not be weird” like he did a good thing.
@@Wontonsouplyfe oh my god thats horrible! it’s so hard to think people actually do this like it’s unbelievable & unacceptable
NOW, I understand why ppl in S.K commit suicide due to bullying.
I was only seeing bullying through *Western* eyes. Bullying here is usually more on the lines of "Mean Girls." I didn't understand the level of violence (torture!) involved. How does anyone learn anything in school when they're busy pulling the wings off of butterflies (another way of saying 'torturing other innocent kids for their own amusement ')?
P.S...I'm curious about the K-Dramas you all mentioned, but I live in an ugly world where Black Men get beat to death (by Police) just for WWB (Walking While Black), and POCs in this metropolitan area are constantly killing other POCs (and Intnl News is filled with Wars and MORE killings), so my brain is already on Negativity Overload. No excuses (from me!). I'm just trying to protect MY mental health, bc I feel bad bc I can't protect the Bullied Ones.
@@OlleOskiFelle Btw, NOTHING I said was b.s., and unless you've lived in my shoes (here in the U.S. East Coast), stfu. You're done.
You or whoever you saw get bullied just hasn't experienced the torture western children can and do go through.
Downplaying one country's violence for another is really low.
@@clarie4497 What they're saying is true. Just because you went through that type of bullying doesn't mean it's all that common. Physical bullying is actually rare in American schools. Most of the time when kids get physical it's usually a two way street. "Both of them are mad at each other so they fight it out". I'm not saying bullying in the west can't be that severe, just that it's really rare for it to be this bad.
@@waddle623 it *isnt* that rare though. like, you have entire school districts where it is normal (but a tragedy) for students to beat, shoot, or stab each other over the simplest shit. i have no doubt physical violence is low for the country's average when it comes to bullying, but within that "low" percentage are hundreds and thousands of emphasized violence. the assumption it's a "two way street" is pretty laughable. just because ppl fight back doesnt mean they werent forced into those confrontations.
I study in Korea. There's bullying of all kinds. I think it's everywhere, but there's a specific kind of bullying I noticed in Korea. I suffered for a year till I spoke up about it. It wasn't violent so I didn't have physical evidence. But mentally I was so drained out.
I hope your okay!
What kind of bullying?
hope you are doing better. nothing is worth going through that. and people who bully others are jealous, damaged people who will be forever stuck in that circle
Is it where they talk behind your back, spread rumours about you that how bad you are even though you are quite nice, discriminate you on group projects type?
@@lazyfattyunicorn7683 What you mentioned, my Korean friend experienced that in Canada and another friend experienced that in Australia. I can say things like this happen also in Korea because it’s where humans reside. All human society has incidents like this.
I was a victim of bullying in brazil, mostly because I didn't fit the beauty standarts ( yes, as a kid and teenager). They used heavy words and excluded me from the group, and was soooo hard. I don't have any confidence in myself even today ( with 27 years) because of that. If I am walking in the street and see a group laughing about something I automaticaly think that is about me. I'm telling all that just to say: I suffer with a "light" form of bullying. I can't even imagine how the victims survive it and have lifes
Hi, I'm very sorry to hear that.
I did suffer from social exclusion mainly, and now that I'm 23 years old I am recognising how that messed up my self-esteem, went to therapy last year and kind of helped me.
I still feel that I need to do some work on myself, sometimes I suddenly remember those hard times and I get very angry at how these people who purposely excluded me, or gave me "nasty looks" have a normal life. I feel its so unfair that they kept on carrying on with their lives whilst I had to deal with all my issues...
@@linasg90 I feels the same. Sometimes I look to the people who used to bully me and some even are coaching how to be a good person on internet??? Like c'mon, I know you are not like that in real life
mulher se o avatar for vc tu eh linda
@@phosphenevision obrigada 🥰
yes this might be "lighter", but your feelings are still so valid. what you went through and the consequences that you suffer today isn't ok. i hope you're doing better now, and that youre taking time to heal
I was friends with bullies(unknowingly), I swear they were my amazing friends in middle school and bit popular also. One day, I discovered them in girl's washroom, they were bullying a mentally challenged girl(my best friend was one of them), they ganged up on that poor girl, put her head inside of a dirty toilet and flushed it, slapped her and pulled her hair and torn her shirt.
When I went intervened in the middle of their henious act, they said that she is mad, she deserves it, even her parents beat her up. I told them that they aren't her parents and saved the girl and she was crying like hell. This became a reason of me breaking my friendship with these people, although my bestie came back to me, she said sorry to me and that girl. Its been 15 years since that incident as the other bullies/ friends never apologized, they even spread rumours about me and destroyed my notes 1 day before the exam. Not only that, but they wrote nasty slurs on my bench. That time I used to cry that I became isolated but today I thank God as afterwards I found really good friends who are still the same unlike the popular bully group whose friendship broke off as they left the school.
People who pick on the vulnerable and challenged like that truly are the worst scum.
@@bjrock1235 in India, one of our beloved Bollywood actor called Sushant Singh Rajput committed suicide(which is still sus, as many calls it murder) due to extensive bullying done by few of the old and established actors in Bollywood.
Many of these bullies in online became advocate on anti-bullying, and depression, as they wrote long quotes in their social media accounts only when I exposed them in one post of mine on insta.
They still aren't remorseful or empathetic of what they did, I think they do not even remember also what they did or they do but ignore to address it. Though, mentioned my bestie apologized to me and to that girl and also broke off her friendship with the group back then, they revealed her secret relationship to her elder brother back then so she had to change school. The level of mental and physical torture they gave to so many people and yet they had to audacity to advocate on anti-bullying and depression is outrageous. This is a fictional drama but I do wish that it would have been a true story where bullies were served what they deserved.
And then everyone clapped
@@chrisspike3282 ???
This kind of stuff happening in India seem's unrealistic. Are you American Indian?
Why can't bullies just stop..
you need to meke em
Because they don't get enough punishment.
Because the Bullies are let go.....I live in a well developed country with well educational system and we have Kids in our school who don't bully that hard but are kinda bad and mean, but they still don't get suspended or expelled, everyone (including the teachers) just act like it's nothing
It's about power
Some bullies are disabled and are repeated what they see at home. Some do it because they don’t realize it’s really hurtful to others and just think it’s a prank. Some do it because they like hurting people, they get a thrill out of it. I would know, I experienced all these types of bullies
This reminds me of the stories I've heard of bullying in Japan... like even the teachers will subtly bully children for being different, like ignoring them or maybe ignoring that they have a waiver for their natural hair (whether it's brown or wavy, etc) because a lot of the schools say you must have black straight hair. I read a case where a school insisted a child's hair be dyed black. That shit's sick.
Apparently the whole society thinks standing out from the crowd is a bad thing and it seems Korean schools are similar in that regard. But it isn't just standing out, some of those bullying cases you mentioned were straight up hate crimes, like the bullying done to the Mongolian kid. The bullies should be in jail, imo. The government is protecting the students too much, imo. A lot of the bullying mentioned was plain ol' assault and just because a student committed the attacks doesn't mean that's a get out of jail free card. It'll keep getting worse because the punishment isn't severe enough and they know their record will be wiped clean at some point. If there is evidence of all these assaults, bullies should go to jail, no matter how high on the social status ladder they're on, and have them get out a year after their records would have normally been wiped. That way, it's always on record that they were abusive twats.
I've heard stories like that too. I agree completely as someone who was bullied, they should suffer the consequences of their actions
in Bleach, Ichigo and Orihime were bullied for their hair, your comment made me understand that it's a real thing that happens in Japan
@@FruityHachi bro used anime as an example 😟
"Black School Rules" is a J-Drama premised upon this. You should watch it for sure, it's pretty good.
Since mainly it’s very rare for foreigners to go to school in Korea however there are many half Koreans and especially if they aren’t half white and perhaps half black and have different features ex curly hair they really do get bullied :( but after seeing Jenny Park’s videos it’s so nice seeing people being really nice to her she’s blasian !
I love jenny park because im also a blasian
cuz she has her camera on.....if not, then they would bully her.
@@anisamohamud8246that too maybe, but if they would be bold enough to literally record torture then I doubt they would even care. I think it's more so her status and popular/dame that makes her more well liked. I'm happy thing seems to be going good for her (:
In South Africa, you can actually go to jail to bully someone to this extent.
Yah, at a point “bullying” becomes harassment and assault
That's the bare minimum.
in russia you can end up in wheelchair for bullying someone becuase people will not
just cope with that
we are not koreans
aren't South Africa is one of the most dangerous countries in the world?
As they should, but Korea has lenient laws regarding minors and they get away using their parents influence if they are rich.
There should be studies from sociologists & psychologists on these criminals & they should be jailed not just expelled this is a full crime not some pity children's fight
In regards to the Kim Garam case, the “victim” was actually a bully herself and lied. Surprise, surprise. Once you rise up from your past, the demons who once haunted you come back to drag you down.
My very close friend who is korean who i met while studying in the Philippines was bullied by other koreans in highschool IN THE PHILIPPINES. It’s so crazy. His bullies didnt pick on Filipinos but if you’re a fellow korean who is their junior then you will get bullied. I thought he was kidding or exaggerating but then he got serious and asked me to think of the reason he went into homeschooling :((
That is messed up.
I watched "The Glory" as well and was shocked by the scenes. It left me so nervous and trembling, knowing that there was absolutely no one who helped her or cared at all. Discovering that the story is based on a real-life case and knowing that there are similar cases around the world makes me so sad and angry. I can't believe that people are capable of such horrifying acts without remorse, driving poor souls to suicide. What shocks me, even more, is that the system completely failed her. I had similar experiences and just like in the series, every adult has failed to help in any way.
Sadly, bullies exist everywhere in the world, in every class or age group. Whether at school, at work, or just on the open street ... I witnessed silent bullying in my class by a boy who never said a thing. He wasn't beaten, however, he was verbally ridiculed so the teachers thought it was just fun between "friends". At work, when I was in training, I often saw new employees being bullied by certain groups because their personalities didn't fit in. I always think of that one lovely woman who was a ray of sunshine and in less than 1 month she was completely broken and quit. These wounds will never fade.
I remember when I watched American high school movies, where it was a running gag of mobbing to dump the head of people in the toilet. Those scenes always terrified me. As a german/polish girl, I see that there are cultural differences in the way that the family name is involved in every action the child does. I hope from the bottom of my heart, that "The Glory" makes a huge impact in social media. I hope people will not only start to talk about mobbing more openly but take action. The change to tackle this problem is more than overdue.
There was a case in Busan and the girls was covered all over blood. Her face was swollen everywhere. The girls got huge metal rods or something and beat her. Even sicker they took a picture and sent it too their classmate.
holy shit , thats literally attempted murder
You should read the case on Junko Furuta. That’s the most demented case I’ve ever read. And the crazy part is even after the girl died and all were put in jail, one of the bullies mother desecrated her gravesite coz she blamed junko for her son being in jail. And it all started because she said no into dating the school bully.
@@adj5s ye
@@mato_fato_ma-ah-fala-falafel oh my that's awful poor girl R. I. P
you guys are so soft! That's why South Korea is one of the strongest nations right now.
i asked a guy i went on a date with(in korea-he attended hs there but went to college abroad) if bullying is really as bad as kdramas and webtoons depict.. he said yeah- it starts in primary school. and you’re definitely right, its from stress and conformity. any sign that youre ‘abnormal’ is bad- the most common causes are divorced or even dead parents if you can believe it. some parents avoid getting divorced during their kids time in school to avoid their child being bullied.. a lot think that ‘abnormal family>abnormal thoughts(mental illness)>abnormal life/person’ its bad when you date later too. your reputation is everything
oh he'll
why koreans are so weak its insane
like in my my russian school I was fighting with someone at least once a weak
since like 7th grade
but I dont remember anyone killed himself
russia has a low suicide rate because you learn to solve your problems and not just run away from them like koreans
I wander why koreans are so weak ]
why cant they just smack a bully ? I get that he might be stronger but I use to fight a guy that was 3 yers older
and with my fried we destroyed him
if he can cheat than so do we
I’m from America. Here if you bully someone, sometimes the bullied person will snap and beat tf out of their bully or someone else will do it for the bullied person. I don’t condone violence, but I hope any current victims find that strength to fight back
That’s exactly what I said! I’m not gonna stand there and let anybody put their hands on me and think that they’re gonna get away with it
I agree and I did and after that they did not bother me again…
One tiny detail was left out: When the bullied person fights back, they get either the same punishment as the bully or they get punished while the bully doesn't.
Lucky that I didn't grew up in Korea nor studied there. I heard some students are crazy. The worst part is they can get away easily if they are from rich family.
So as a non-Korean my opinion won't mean that much but personally I feel like you doing videos like these where you criticize a troubling aspect of your culture/country doesn't show contempt, it shows true love. You clearly love your country and sometimes that means being uncomfortably honest about its faults.
Truer words have never been spoken
Exactly!
Bullying has everlasting effect. I am fairly social and friendly at work or basically inside buildings. But outside while alone as an adult even walking the street and seeing teenager walking towards me gives me anxiety and I stiffen up avoiding eye contact. Riding bike feels better since i feel pretty normal and can have fun while at it. But walking makes that passing by interaction last longer and i hate that feeling.
I thought I was the only one feeling like that when teenagers pass by...
@@neko_neko9 Because of your comment and the OP's comments I just realized that it's more common that I thought. I also avoid teenagers on the street as a plague even though I live in a very safe area...
I do this too
I hate teenagers lol
Very relatable! I’m in my late twenties and I still hate it when I have to walk past a group of teenagers, while by now they just think I’m a boring adult and they don’t even notice me lol
I think there's also a lot of undiagnosed mental illness that goes on in Korean society in general as well, allowing power to be given into the hands of children that may have psychopathic or sociopathic tendancies. I can't tell you how many times I've heard stories from my friends teaching English in Korea and how many I've seen online of foreign teachers exposing just how many undiagnosed students (with severe autism, ADHD, suicidal thoughts and personality disorders etc.) there are and how NO help is allotted to them to cater to their learning needs or learning environment.
In fact, when teachers attempt to bring up the fact that a child may be mentally unwell or need extra care to the parents, the parents just get offended and have threatened to sue the school and the teachers, making it difficult for teachers to speak up because they threaten their reputations among the other school staff. South Korea seriously needs to change. I'm sure the majority of the kids bullying others have some sort of disorder that is going unchecked and perhaps those who are being bullied do too, like autism for example, making it less likely for them to speak up.
We need to end this once and for all and give these kids the resources they deserve to live and thrive in a healthy environment. Oh yeah, and prosecute the offenders to the fullest degree! Goodness...
In Asian countries I think it's common for people to be scrutinsed or outcast whether it's for being different or race. I'm from Singapore and from a girls school so I have many classmates and schoolmates who extort people for money and bully and beat people up. There's also a girl in my class who's autistic and she gets laughed at and people talk nasty things behind her back like about her face or her body. Sometimes the bullying is not just physical it can be psycological lol
That’s not the full report of Garam’s committee where it appears that she defended her friend from Molka so find out before talking about her
The victims don't deserve this, my heart aches for them. The competitive and critical society has led everyone to be judgmental about anything and everything. Why can't we just be empathetic and nice to everybody? Sigh...
awww aw qq
When I saw the glory I thought “okay this is not bullying it’s abuse”and when I found out it was based on a true story I felt horrible and bad that someone had to go through all that…neither did I know it was this bad in Korea that cause all these students to take their life it’s just horrible
hearing about the girl who jumped twice is so incredibly heartbreaking. bullying in korea is not just bullying, it’s borderline crime and torture. the fact that they get their records wiped to “protect” their own reputation makes me feel angry and frustrated. it’s not fair that the victims have to live with this trauma while the bullies get a pass after two years. in enrages me how it happens so often; i hope those who are victims of bullying can carry the strength to move forward.
I was confused about this because I heard from other Koreans if a kid has an SVC record then that record was supposed to follow them for the rest of their Academic career which affects transfers and college admissions, etc.
@@Wontonsouplyfe that is why most bullies uses SVC as a tool to cause a secondary harm to their victims, by labeling them as perpetrator.
I know too cases of bullies cut themselves with permanent scars and accused their victims of it, had an SVC against them and that lead to a whole future damage not just in schools
Those bullies managed after exposure of the truth to wipe everything from their records but the victims couldn't do that and the record stopped them from having the future career they want.
Rich kids in korea can escape any type of punishment and any type of record so easily but poor kids they will have their entire future damaged permanently
@@lee_27_nam exactly, I don’t understand why this isn’t apparent or why Korean RUclipsrs like this one don’t even bother to point this out. A quick search on SVC issues will result in articles that mention this.
@@Wontonsouplyfe and antibullying organisations releases reports every year on how most of these SVC cases are being used by bullies to cause harm to their victims (the one named perpetrator is the actual victim, and vice versa).
The ministry of education resigned in August 2022 because of too much corruption in the educational system including the misuse of these SVC by so many rich families to help their kids escape punishment.
Koreans in general do not want to dig in any problems they face, they just see the surface and that is the end of everything to them.
Koreans always says bullying in korea is a serious problems with much severity then any other place, they have so much severer cases of bullying, etc, but they never want to solve that problem, or find the source of it and try to change the situation.
They put major crimes teenagers do in the category of bullying and let those kids get away with it and let rich people manipulate it.
Those teenagers can live really well in normal life without any type of consequences or even reflection on that, but when it comes to idols suddenly the human morals wake up and reach the toptier level, they start cancelling idols especially females without trying to give a chance to defend ones self.
@@lee_27_nam wait who resigned at the ministry of education? I have read articles about how SVC can be utilised by bullies, I had no idea there are anti-bullying organisations that release these reports, where can you find these reports?
That is so sad. This is such a worldwide problem. I do think it may be worst in Korea because of the whole group mentality thing and how you're not supposed to stand out. My heart goes out to those who do stand out for the right things and get hate for it. Here In the US there is also tons of bullying but it's definitely more verbal, racist, and psychological, cyber and not really physical because there's consequences like lawsuits and news media. The LAST THING a principal at a school wants is for the news media to do a story on their school and see just how bad they are. Why? Bad reputation = less enrollment and less enrollment = less money ($$$ millions lost) if kids go to other districts or homeschool. It's all about money.
It's simple really. The reason bullies exist is because of really bad parents. I have seen parents teach their kids to say bad words to the teacher and to punch someone if they don't like them as small as 2nd grade. Such bad parents! If only good God fearing parents existed that would love and educate their children to be good productive members of society then this world would be a paradise and we could all enjoy life forever.
I'm going to watch the Glory later on because i keep seeing it in my recommendations.
That is the problem, not only in Korea, but the world; the loss of the fear of Almighty God.
If you think being ‘God-fearing’ means less negative in the country’s society, you are sadly wrong. Look at the Philippines. Over 90% are Catholic or some form of Christian and there is TONS of corruption, underpaid folk, sexual crimes, you get the idea. Around 90% are ‘god-fearing’ but all the stuff I mentioned actually happens.
@@idontknowwhatimdoinghere Actually, 90% are not God-fearing by what I read in this comment; rather, it seems that 90% claim some form of religion. There is a difference. A person who actually has a healthy fear/reverence for God would strive to live holy, and would seek to abstain from corruption, abuse, and sexual crimes, etc. Here in North America a person doesn't have to look too hard to find that our society does not live up to its claim, "IN GOD WE TRUST". The deciding factor is what people claim to be as opposed to what they actually live. Therefore, the wheat and tares grow together and in the end God will sort it out.
@@idontknowwhatimdoinghere yeah, you're right, i probably should of used different words now I that I about it. I will more careful next time i but I will take time to answer your question because it is a very good question & because you are 100% correct.
And the answer is very simple really. Because they are not god-fearing at all so that makes them fake/false christians (and that is NOT because its their fault bc i'm sure they had good hearts) but mainly because their clergy/leaders practice, tolerate and teach such things or don't teach them anything. They also don't have any discipline/consequences. If you commit a serious crime like( you mentioned "sex crimes, and TONS of corruption") you should get prison. Period! Your religious leaders should not interfere with the law of the land. They should only try to help you as much as possible spiritually but if you don't want to change your ways, then they should kick you out of their religious organization because you are ruining the reputation of that organization and above all God's.
Because there is no discipline and their leaders tolerate all types of wrongdoing or do it themselves, many people don't want anything to do with any religion, even a good one.
If you really want scriptural answer Jesus says there would be many fake/false Christians in Matthew 7:21-23 because many religious leaders would trick many people into thinking they are christian but they just want money and power, mainly money. Remember there are many pure evil people in this world. Google says there are about 45000+ DIFFERENT christian denominations. Thats just ridiculous if you really think about it.) Jesus compared the religious organizations to trees and any bad tree producing "bad fruit" (in other words bad people) should be burned/destroyed. Matthew 7:19-20. Anyways very good question!
Bullying is obviously a real problem that should be taken seriously. But I don't think it's a recent phenomenon or unique to Korea. What is unique to Korea however is the whole hierarchy based on your age. Whether in school or at work, being older or more experienced gives you an advantage in the Korean society and some people choose to abuse that power.
It’s not unique to Korea. Japan for instance has that too. China to a much lesser degree. It’s largely based on Confucianism, and ironically Korea is the most Confucian of the East Asian nations in terms of age hierarchy despite Confucius not even being Korean. But age hierarchy is def not a Korean only thing.
As a Young kid I was bullied.....well not as worse as the ones you see in drama or physically, but during those young ages I was like an Outcast, I was Emotionally, Verbally Bullied, I have had people tell me really mean and bad stuff, Although I don't remember much of my childhood memories that are kinda related to Elementary School because your brain tends to remove or like Fog the once that are bad and stuff, I could say that it affected me a lot, All I did was let those people do all the type of shit they wanted to do to me and just Ignore, but thank God today I'm in a better place with Good Friends, Although I can't say what's gonna happen at Highschool, All I hope is thing go smoothly.....
I hope you’re okay ❤ i also got bullied. A boy called Theodor and, his friend groups used to beat me. They would always take of my hijab, film me and threaten me. They got kicked out bc they wouldn’t stop.
@ayniabdifateh2334 Omg your situation sounds worser! I hope you're doing well dear, may Allah SWT protect you from these kinds of monsters
“It’s a severe punishment-“ girl no its not… I thought we went over this alr…😰
This is heartbreaking :( I would definetly be interested in hearing your experience with a stalker, I'm sorry you had to go through that
You should've mentioned garam was innocent... she was just a child standing up for her friend. Mentioning her as a "bully" is so messed up considering she's just 16 and was harrassed by millions of people every day for months. Her life long dream got taken away from her and her name is forever tainted :/
Idk if she knew that since Koreans refuse to forgive her. The news that she's innocent might not be news over there.
we still don't know if she was innocent or not. We don't have enough evidence to know the truth. It's word against the word. That's why i didn't criticise her but neither support her
@@zosiexofficial the whole cvc record was released, you can look it up yourself. While Garam was not completely innocent, as she cursed the other girl out, she was not a bully. She just protected her friend, whose undressed photos were spread by the real bully. Unfortunately, the real bully left the school before she was expelled, but still received a level 7 punishment, much worse than Garam. Who was also being bullied for standing up for her friend. It’s all on the internet and I encourage you to look it up yourself and read everything. 👍
@@sloth_onda7408 now curssing at someone is something we cancel people for? Its like you or anyone never cursed before ?? And garam didnt curse for no reason , she cursed at a bully who bullied her and took half na%ed pic of her friend.
So yall need to stop claiming you're angels.
@@zosiexofficial we have PLENTY of evidence that she's innocent.
I was lightly bullied by a group of mean girls in middle school. It made me develop a “f u I do what I want” attitude lol. Which in turn got me some respect for other classmates and people started leaving me alone who weren’t my friends. My lack of reaction made them stop. The bullying in Korea sounds hellish. I don’t think I would survive it as it can’t be ignored or fixed with a sarcastic comment.
The girl that jumped of the roof twice reminded me of manhwa Let Dai, where a girl jumped of the roof after being r*ped by several guys, never told anybody, changed her appearance to tomboisch and being bashed by her dad because of it. After she jumped for the first time and survived, she went home and saw her family looking quite happy as they were, without her there. She went to the same building and jumped again.
Am a survivor of bullying but it's not like physical but mental. My own cousins made me all alone and never included me in their family and also skinny shamed me four whole 7 years. Similarly by brother was a victim of this too but he was constantly insulted infront of the whole villeges and friends by our cousin brothers for 3 years. He was too innocent and scared that he killed himself when he was just 17 years old. At that time I was just 16.after his death i became very strong that I learned to fight back even i filed case against them for violence.
The Glory a great show. I can't wait for season two. The bullying was same in the UK long ago.
the bullying is mostly entacted due to Islamophobia and racism from the horror stories I’ve heard and it’s shocking.
UK bullying isn’t that bad as Korea
@@Concretesatanic have you been to UK public school? The students are downright unruly.I was bullied twice at two different schools and had to move
@@Concretesatanic may not be as bad as Korea but it’s fucking horrible
@jc its seen in some old movies too, primarily among upper-class young boys. that is awful children can harbor that much hate.
I was 9 when my classmates tried to bully me. I'm a redhead, so they compared me with some media characters. They said it was ugly and so on. I just didn't get it, because my parents always told me that i was beautiful. And I didn't know that you can bullie someone.
I'm a grown adult now and I think that this level is horrible. So I really don't get how kids can do such things. It's literally a torture. And some of them don't even get a punishment...like what they can do in a future?
It is so sad...
Garam is innocent
Face it
Like it or not
She is innocent
This isn't just bullying, this is borderline torture and abuse
It's not borderline it just is. Burning people, picking off the scabs and bring them again, that's pure torture nothing borderline about it.
Kim garam's case is much more complicated than that. She was not a bully.
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김가람은 유은서를 괴롭히지 않았다. 유은서는 진짜 깡패로, 엄벌을 받고 새 학교에서 협박을 했다. 김가람이 한 일은 논쟁에서 부산을 집어치우라는 말뿐이었다.
당신은 편집된 보고서를 보여주었지만, 전체 보고서는 현재 사용 가능하다.
유은서는 다른 학교 학생 두 명을 불러 김가람과 다른 학생들을 모욕했다.
유은서 피해자들이 증언을 할 수 없게 되자 H사는 증인신문을 거부했다.
유은서의 사진과 거짓말 증거가 있습니다
비디오를 편집해서 원본 보고서를 보여주실 수 있습니다.
This really opened my eyes.
When I saw news articles online about celebrities losing their careers over bullying, the first thought that came to my mind was, “aren’t they being too dramatic”? but now my thought are, “ahhh I didn’t know it was so severe in korea”
When i got bullied students would just talk bad about me or pull my hair. I can’t imagine going through what they went through.
I watched The Glory and it’s a great K-Drama but to hear that some of the situations from the show happened in real life. Burns with curling tool, the boy who had bullies break into his own home (also happened in show), and the girl who jumped. It’s all so sad and for someone who isn’t Korean - it’s interesting consuming K-Dramas and to see how bullying is different across the globe.
Thanks for informing about the real life comparisons
There should be a clear distinction between severe bullying and assault, torture and crimes against life. To tie someone and horribly torture them for hours is not a school matter. It's a hideous crime against humanity and should be addressed as such.
why didn’t you mention that garam was proved innocent? and you used fake document when garam posted the actual one..
personally i’ve always thought the “extreme” bullying in asia was a direct byproduct of a very restrained, conformity-based society. it’s like teenagers acting out bc of the psychological, emotional/mental (even sometimes physical) abuse they face from their home life/societal expectations.
i’ve always believed that craving that level of power over someone that you’d get from making them your victim, was a psychological response to the power you feel you family (in most cases parents) or society has over you as an individual.
I thought korean dramas were exaggerating I didn’t know it was a real thing
The fact that a bully needs a reason to bully someone is disgusting. Bullying is fully on hatred for another person who has done nothing to do with what the bully is going through, in the world we live in every single person will be against hate crime against a group of people but when it comes to bullying nobody cares. Bullies do need help but the victims need more because they have to spend years of there life feeling like rubbish for being themselves.
Bullying leaves a psychological impact on victims even when they are adults . Being a child , having so much trauma will definetely stunt your growth as an adult
It definitely does which is why I hope karma bites those bullies back hard.
I did watch the glory and it was incredibly hard to watch and I thought the *SAME* exact thing of "why are they going so far? Don't these people have lives?!"
Why break into people's houses? Why search them out?
I also read a webtoon about bullies and there's a character who gave the same rationale mentioned here about how not ruining the kids' futures by punishing them too harshly or publicly. On one level, I can understand the thought but on the other, what about the victims? And certain actions are beyond redemption or forgivable (in my opinion; better people than me might be able to forgive). For example, the crimes done in the glory are unforgivable and NONE of the bullies are repentent in the slightest. The main bully even says her mistake was not just killing the protagonist.
I think expulsion and imprisonment should go together because they commited heinous crimes. Like how are you 16/17/18 and claiming your brain isn't developed enough to know this is a bad decision/choice/action? You *chose* to hurt someone _repeatedly_ because you got enjoyment out of it.
My husband was stationed in Korea ten years ago and he actually came across some poor kid getting his ass beat in an alley by other kids. They didn't take my husband seriously until he mentioned getting the police and the kids scattered like roaches.
My heart goes out to the families and people this happened to. Getting bullied is not fun ! ( Coming from experience). I am 30 and still to this day I have huge social anxiety issues to the point I don't go outside besides going to work.
My brother was a school bully, and at home he was no different. Hearing that girl who jumped off the building twice to end her life broke my heart, but I understand it. When my brother tormented me, I'd always think that he'd either get so angry that he'll take my life, or that I'd get so depressed that I'd take my own. When I felt a lot of pain, choosing life, choosing to live, was knowing that you'll get abused, tormented, and tortured again, which makes it hard to face and to choose life. It is also that your life is treated as not important, that you are stupid, worthless, useless, and deserve to be hurt by others, and you're treated like you're nothing to them, that causes depression and makes it also hard to live, and I even avoided mirrors for a long time, because looking at it I just saw pain and suffering. But I chose to live anyways, which felt like choosing insanity sometimes, but if something like a bug can live, then why couldn't I? If someone that mean and violent is able to live, then why couldn't I?
I cut off contact to my brother, and I enjoy my life and my freedom now. But my mind still wonders back into the past, because I think there's something important it that can help people understand something new, and maybe it can help them somehow.
I actually just watched "The Glory" this weekend and can't wait for the second part! And you're right, the bullying scenes were so hard to watch ㅠㅠ
This stuff isn’t just bullying this is physical assault and is fully criminal these people are psychopaths I’ve been a victim of verbal bullying and it did cause me to self harm but that wasn’t even physical yea bullying is not ok legal action should be taken against all these bullies
Yep, I was a victim of domestic abuse (both physical and psychological) for just under 10 years and it’s caused me a plethora of mental health problems, I truly hope nobody ever feels the way I have ever again
@@willow3799 I’m so sorry I’m glad you’re ok now though💞
@@Peachessssss13 I hope you’re ok too
Stop spreading misinformation about garam she was proven innocent months ago, big yikes you
Why do these Korean laws protect perpetrators, and its not just this bullying case but even the self defense laws, they set a limit to which you can protect yourself even if you could end up In seriouse danger, if you go over that limit, you who is the victim will be charged more than the perpetrator. Its wild...
This is exactly what I thought about. It's practically illegal to defend yourself and this is what allows these things to happen over and over again. Have you heard of the Miryang Gang Rape? It's even worse than what was on "The Glory" and it was a real case of high school boys gang raping several middle school girls. Absolute shit humans raising shit humans with no consequences, even going as far as to victim blame and stalk the victim demanding the victim apologize and "settle" (with money) that apparently her family took in her place while she was left all on her own. Makes my blood boil. Korea desparately needs laws that actually get enforced and harsher punishments for offenders that are minors and adults too. The laws are shit here. (Lived in Korea for 6 years now).
Japan is really bad as well. There was a kid awhile back that had been bullied all through middle school and high school who killed himself after his homeroom teacher helped the class hold a mock funeral for him complete with lilies and pictures in the classroom. A lot of the bullying in Japan is psychological, though.
@sabrinabelladonna3200I hope the teacher gets jailed since that’s technically assisted su*c*de
i think you handled this topic really well. it’s so disheartening to think justice is so hard to get and when it does happen it can be wiped away within a few years. hope with the rise of online petitions the government becomes more inclined to change things for the better
Pinned SVC link! Stop using her for clout #justiceforgaram
As someone who has been bullied in middle and high school I’m still suffering mentally even after years. I was never hit physically, but I was cyber bullied from them making a DeepFake and edited pictures. I now have PTSD, depression, and social anxiety. I feel my wounds are too deep to heal, but I can only try to move on. What terrifies me the most is everything on the internet will be there forever. I’m so sorry for all victims. Please be strong even though you might still be struggling❤
That is why I rarely go on social media. The net has enhanced our lives but also made our lives more miserable too. It is a double edged sword. Not everything and things fade out as people began to careless and people move on with their lives.
The deepfake thing is getting more attention. People are starting to realize things online aren't real and they are being more skeptical. Plenty of victims who have a platform are speaking out, and bigger creators are covering this. You're not at fault, you're not alone, and the truth will set you free.
garam was proved innocent now stop doing things for views at least apologize 🙄
Man as someone who was bullied at school, what I dealt with is nothing compared to some of the stories 💀💀
This is actually very much the same for bullying in Japan too...
What is it a lot?
It is so weird that you say that the whole country takes bullying seriously when I have seen (in Korean dramas of course, I use them as reference) these teachers that just don’t care. They blame the victims for attracting the wrong attention. Some teachers are just corrupt and they don’t care about the victims, they just want their good report for a promotion. And worse, some teachers are afraid to scold the bullies because the bullies have rich parents. Like… the country suddenly only cares about bullying when it comes to celebrities like idols and actors, but that is WAY too late to start caring. The society should’ve cared about their bullying habits WHILE IT WAS HAPPENING. Anyways, the irony is uncanny here.
The celebrities are just scapegoats, a sort of virtue signaling if you will... When the society doesn't actually care to fix a problem, they will continously find public scapegoats to prove that their society isn't like that. The amount of bullies that go unpunished also result in extreme online bullying of idols and celebrities. Too many frustrated people willing to enact justice "anonymously".
The people are too materialistic and morals are going down it seems.
Now i understand why idols get cancelled real quick because of previous bullying issues.
What i don't get is why they make a fuss for kid bullying each other but actually do nothing to stop them when they were doing so in High school. Cop do no shit, Teacher same.
Stop spreading misinformation about the Garam case. There's literally every resources out there that's already available. Stop this.
the problem with canceling an idol because of bullying is that most of the time there is no evidence and the public doesn't care if they were bullys or not they just want to say bad things about the idol
Not into kpop or anything but honestly I find a lot of times its people who are guilty of bullying and harassment who want to cast the first stone. Oftentimes 'canceling' is just one big bully brigade disguised as righteousness... its remind me of the cult my grandparents were in
@@pinkbrando i agree! there are a bunch of hypocrites, i believe that even if the idol was a bully he shouldn't receive hateful comments, the authorities must decide how to proceed (btw are your grandparents fine? 😥)
@@alexx1o1but the idol must apologise and take accountability of his or her actions
One thing I wanted to mention - Kim Garam was proven innocent. I would love it if you could mention it, because the bullying accusations were a targeted character assassination from her old bully, and they worked. Her bully was given a level 8. The official document backed Garam up completely. Because she's still young and the accusations got *much* more publicity than her innocence, it would be nice to mention that her name has in fact been cleared. Itthink Kwon Mina is a better example of a bully in a kpop group. She had everyone believing terrible things about her groupmates, and clearly has some serious mental issues which influence her malicious fixation on her teammate, Jimin. She almost ruined her career singlehandedly.
i used to be a victim in a private school in the philippines, id often have pencils stolen, sometimes used to hit at me, money stolen when there'd be programs and such. The harshest ones would be when id be dragged to the bathroom and forced into a stall and yknow, the mildest was social isolation. It took me years and finally in 2021 i was finally healed enough to socalize. So knowing in korea the bullying is even worse is just horryifying
It's not as bad over here in America but we a different kind of bully problem. Have you ever heard of an Adult Cry Bully? Imagine having to walk on egg shells at work because there's that one person who's just looking for any reason/non issue to complain to HR about.
I work with someone like that. The dude tried to rat on me for using gendered language because I said "hey guys, good morning" to a group of co workers when I clocked in and the cry bully in question happened to overhear it.
girl didn't you do research on garam case???? she was also proven innocent.
I know this isn’t the main topic of the video but can we just stop bringing Garam everytime? She’s proven innocent so let’s stop associating her to bullying.
she told me i hope trump builds a wall
My stepmother growing up was a raging narcissist who came over from Korea when she was much older. I often thought she ran away from something and hearing about bullying in Korea fills in the gaps of the story for me. She was probably a bully over there who came over to the states when her actions caught up with her.
I’m also obsessed with The Glory as hard as it is to watch; U are gorgeous btw🤗💕
Thank you so much!!
ive always knew bullying in korea is bad. But Watching the glory… and then hearing that Koreas saying that bullying is worst than the glory. My heart legit sank, because it’s so sad just so sad. it’s so hard to watch
사실이 아닙니다. 드라마는 과장된거야
@@Soobin_06 it isn't, it is based on a true story and the story the drama is based off is even worse
i feel grateful that i was growing up in a school that appreciate uniqueness. It was an all girls school too, everyone is so nice. To be bullied for expressing individuality could change how someone live their lives... it's so sad. it has to stop.
I have been a K-Drama since 2004 ... I like it. It's really shocking that bullying in a kdrama happens in real life, so disturbing and scary and so sad .... I watched The Glory ... loved Song Hye Gyo there ... I hope the perpetrators in real life get a severe punishment. By the way, thank you for the video (you are so beautiful and poise ...masya Allah) I've been trying to find this kind of explanation about this bullying matter (especially in The Glory), so your video really answer it.
Garam is innocent of bullying and violence in the official school disciplinary report; therefore, she should have stayed in Le Sserafim. Garam defended a friend verbally who pleaded for help when Eunsoo took hidden photos of Garam's friend in her underwear and hacked a facebook account to post them online under another name to incriminate an innocent student. Eunsoo's rich father used his influence to push through a disciplinary committee that was biased against Garam. Yet, the level 5 offense that Garam received for defending her friend with a cuss word or two carried 0 severity points for violence and was the most common one given at her school, while Eunsoo's very rare level 8 offense carried 16-20 points in severity of violence which was beyond suspension. Yet, the rich father used his influence to get Eunsoo to transfer schools before the punishment could be implemented and jealous Eunsoo bullied Garam at the new school by getting boys in online chat rooms to threaten violence against her and keep inviting her so she couldn't leave the chats. Garam also had insults and obscenities written on her desk at school.
Eunsoo's intense jealousy of Garam debuting in her favorite kpop company was one of the primary driving forces for the lies and corruption to drive Garam out, but another pivotal reason the powers in kpop and South Korea were so rabid in going after Garam is that she stood up to the rich elite's perverted "right" to post child porn online, use blackmail to control girls' lives, and incriminate others by stealing their identity to post it so they don't get caught. In their demented minds, this is what they call a perpetrator of crimes. As a result, Eunsoo's rich father purchased a dirty law firm to file a fraudulent lawsuit with the ulterior motive of destroying Garam's career since it coincided with Garam's debut in Le Sserafim and had nothing to do with the stated intent which was accusing Garam of bullying, since the school incident happened four years before and was caused by the violent actions of sexual harassment and theft of a facebook account by Eunsoo.
According to the Korean Broadcasting System (KBS), Garam was by far the hardest hit target by Kakao Organization affiliated with Starship with 336 slanderous articles written to destroy her reputation. Kakao is currently under investigation by the FTC for reverse viral marketing. Kakao falsely claimed that Garam was an ex Starship trainee who was removed for bullying other members which was a lie. Furthermore, Kakao is responsible for the slanderous picture and article claiming that Garam had written down with Ive and other famous kpop groups on a blackboard, even though Garam is not seen in the picture and even though she hadn't attended that school since 2018 which was long before the group IVE even formed. Finally, they are responsible for lies about Garam bullying other Le Sserafim members. it is obvious that there was a coordinated conspiracy to cancel Garam, especially with the fake evidence and fabricated photos spread all over the internet by the fake victim, Eunsoo, her rich father's purchase of a dirty law firm to file a fraudulent lawsuit with the ulterior motive of destroying Garam's career, and Kakao's viral flooding of the internet with negative and slanderous articles against Garam who was innocent of the false allegations.
While Hybe appeared to defend Garam in a superficial sense by putting out an official statement that recounted Garam's version of the story, it was done in an impersonal way with statements like According to Garam. Furthermore, it was issued too late, since it also announced that she was being placed on hiatus. However, the real incompetence and undermining by Hybe came from their refusal to let Garam make the public statement she requested in mid-April and their refusal to let her release the official school disciplinary report which she also had available in mid-April. Even worse, Hybe's complete betrayed of Garam came when they refused to release this critical information even after Eunsoo's side released a cropped and marked on part of the school disciplinary document which only indicated Garam's offense. Furthermore, they didn't release the testimonies of the many students that supported Garam's innocence. Hybe also never filed lawsuits for libel or slander against all the false information and incriminating faked photos posted by the fake victim (real bully) or against the death or sexual assault threats that were posted online which badly damaged Garam's reputation and traumatized her psychologically, especially since she rarely left her dorm room during the time of her hiatus because of anxiety and depression. This downcast condition and isolation persisted for an extended period even after Garam left Hybe and went home.
This cyber witch hunt fueled with malicious lies didn't give Garam's side of the story which would have been based, if it had been allowed to take place, on official school evidence, direct testimony and the emotional resonance of Garam's personal appeal. The effect was to create great hype at the moment of debut but to destroy the mental health of Garam who was falsely accused and served as the scapegoat for the group. There is even a haunting scene in an ad in which Garam falls really hard on a car which suggests that she is Hybe's fallen sixth angel, since Le Sseragim means six angels. Then after a long hiatus and a period of silence, Hybe dumped Garam with no attempt made to clear her name, even though they had all the evidence to do so and even though they had used the excuse of an upcoming trial against Eunsoo as the reason not to reveal the evidence to exonerate Garam. The defender against sexual exploitation, Garam, was severely punished and Eunsoo, the sexual offender of Garam's friend and facebook hacker was rewarded.
Therefore after Garam's unjust cancellation and while sunk in the depths of depression, it was left up to Garam with the help of her faithful friend Yudimi to muster up the strength to clear her name by releasing the official school disciplinary report and Garam's explanatory statement in August, in which Garam refuted many of the falsehoods by saying she never drank or smoked, never bullied or ordered anyone around, never transferred schools and never used violence. She also had the honesty to admit that she would have handled the defense of her friend a bit differently now that she had the perspective of more maturity but was adamant that in principle she had done the right thing because her parents had taught her the importance of defending a friend in a time of adversity. But honestly, Garam's actions seem really honorable and reasonable considering the severity of the offense: yelling and saying a couple of cuss words at Eunsoo for posting half nude photos of her friend as a profile pic online and hacking a facebook account to incriminate another student. Better yet, I thought of Garam's actions as a wise lesson posed as a question: If every member of a group and its fandom had the guts to defend a targeted member the way Garam defended her friend against a powerful and perverted enemy like Eunsoo, wouldn't all these unjust bullying cancellations like of Jimin, Soojin and Garam come to an end? In Garam's closing address in her letter, she thanked her fans with a harbinger of hope, GaramDream. And the strength of Garam's and Yudimi's efforts freed from Hybe's draconian restrictions turned the tide of public opinion in Garam's favor.
Presently, there are some hopeful signs such as Garam giving thanks to her fans on her birthday for her video banner in Seoul on November 16, and 6 days later the first beautiful photos of Garam in her yellow school uniform appeared on twitter. My hope is that if Garam wishes to return to music that she will go into jpop in Japan, as I think it would be safer and give her far more freedom of expression and action. Garam is also quite popular there, comments are more positive for her there than in South Korea, there are far fewer risks, and Japanese songs are longer with storylines that include acting in the videos, which is a great fit since she is currently studying acting at the School of Performing Arts. Plus, the big money influences and propaganda and cancellation campaigns waged against her in kpop will have far less influence in Japan and she will have better protection in Japan from the depravity of lies, misogyny, jealousy and hypocrisy. However, I will support her in whatever she decides to do especially if it is kpop or kdrama because she will need a lot more protection then. Garam is one of my very favorites because of her great beauty and charisma on stage and her fabulous singing, dancing, and her strong integrity of character at such a young age. Her soothing sweet vocals with a touch of sassiness in Blue Flame and Sour Grapes are like a delightful dream and her beautiful ferocity in Fearless is captivating. Her heartbreaking story and efforts to rise again from great persecution are a true inspiration and remind me of an epic movie, so it is certainly no coincidence that she is studying to be an actress. I just wish her the best of success, happiness with love and trust from family and friends, and warmth and understanding from all over the world.
THANK YOU OMG
I think I understand why those kpop and kdrama stars get banned for bullying allegations. It must be like hell to study in a Korean school. I hope bringing all these to light will allow future students to think twice before bullying other students, because considering Soojin and Garam's cases, they were falsely accused but they still do not have a career anymore.
Honestly this kinda sounds like what I went through as a kid and teenager growing up nobody ever really beat me up but I was socially isolated and verbally abused constantly. I thought my experiences were rare and maybe they are in the US idk but this sounds awful to have a whole society that regularly does this to people 😭 I wanted to end it all for a looooong time and I’ve attempted so I can feel the pain these kids are going through. People are evil 😭
Garam was proven innocent. She was defending her friend that was having pictures of her in her underwear posted by the actual bully. The reason garam has the level 5 punishment is because she and a group of friends confronted the bully and Garam swore at her. Garam was actually a pretty normal and quiet student. Please do not spread misinformation.
Every time I watch a Korean movie that involves bullying, going back to late 90's, I was always horrified at the level of cruelty. I remember thinking that even for fiction it was taken to a whole new level. We have relatives in SE Asia, and they told us a few Koreans were at their school because of bullying at their homeland. I'm so sorry for anyone who has suffered through it, I hope they live long and happy lives.
Garam is innocent!
I can see it. I fully believe it happens. Socially, in Korea peoples names and public decency/respect play a huge factor in how to move in life. It’s part of why the rich and powerful kids can get away with so much because if the teachers do so much as to step out of line and make their precious kids have a more difficult school life it’s comes right back to the teachers… their jobs are on the line, their at risk of being harassed themselves.
It's refered as bullying only because it's happening between teens and younger when in fact that's straight up torture. We wouldn't call a grown ass adult burning their coworkers being a "bully".
The fact that they show the whole class someone’s grades. It’s wild.
South Korea has one of the highest suicide rates in the world. Hearing what Korean children go through, I am not suprised.
Huh
@@Diamond-rl2on
Kids in your class know your grades.
In some schools they make the person with the best grades the class president.
@@Shay45 for real?
I had an asshole teacher read our test scores out loud to the whole class. This was in the US.