Love this movie. Karen Carpenter was and is THE BEST singer of all time. I cry when I hear some of her songs. But I read a phrase recently, that helps me and I know Karen would agree. "Remember me with smiles and laughter, for that's how I'll remember you all; if you can only remember me with tears, then don't remember me at all." sargem100
At I feel so broken hearted.the pain in my heart.the emotional pain the Karen went thru about her health,marriage,career,and life.but she's no longer in pain,instead she at peace since her passing on Feb.04,1983.at 9:51a.m.
“Has it ever struck you that life is all memory, except for the one present moment that goes by you so quick you hardly catch it going?”― Tennessee Williams..............................
people who were enabling her, and pretending that nothing was wrong and telling her that she looked good, when she was obviously very, very sick. It was on an old Mike Douglas Show or one of those old talk shows in the 70's. He also tried to raise public awareness about Anorexia Nervosa after her death, imploring people to watch for the danger signs with loved ones, to be vigilant in getting them help to prevent another senseless tragedy.
There's a great book chronicling the life of Karen Carpenter from the cradle to the grave. The book is entitled "Little Girl Blue".The wedding incident is covered in detail in the book I believe the author's name is Schmidt. A great read tho' I think he left a few important things out, I does kind of 'fill in the blanks' on a lot of what was speculation. It does go pretty deep into her romantic relationships, eating disorder, use of ipecac/synthroid, relationship with mother, things like that.
Notice how the family said that THEY think that her and Bob should get divorced? They weren't taking her feelings into consideration at all and that's just wrong 😞
0.20. Richard Carpenter did NOT fall down a flight of steps. In reality he passed out in his bathroom,fell and struck his head on the toilet. He was hospitalised with an injured eye and possibly a concussion. This is yet another "urban myth" created by this movie.
The treatment of Karen's marriage is very clever here. Altho' I think a lot of it is wrong. I had read that Richard had a lot of control over what went into the scripts. Cynthia Gibbs has said so. Burris told Karen just a few days before the wedding that he had had a vasectomy and could not get her pregnant, which was devastating to Karen because she wanted a family above all else. Karen originally wanted to call the wedding off but it was Agnes (karen's mom) who demanded she go thru with it.
How is it that they never notice how thin that person with eating disorder is before they hug her or touch her...? And BUM! - they suddenly notice and are like "Oh my God! You must get help!"
Do you happen to know why he had a vasectomy or why Agnes insisted that she go through with the marriage? That was something I didn't know; but I DO remember my mother telling me that after Karen died that Richard was devastated (a lot of people think that he wasn't as upset as he should have been--but that was his SISTER; I think he would have been devastated), and that he'd tried to get Karen help. Publicly, on a talk show, he tried to get her to admit her illness and berated the (cont'd)
Richard tried everything. She was so mad at him because Rich knew she still wasn't well. He told her to her face that he was saying what he did because he loved her. 3 ½ weeks later, or so, she passed away. Rich was right. She wasn't well - she only went to different anorexic behaviors like - Epicac syrup and thyroid medicine for a thyroid problem she didn't have, to speed up her metabolism and poisoned her heart to death. It just gave out and she most likely, had a heart attack.
@@lvelez1999Richard tried everything? I think not. How on earth could they not understand that, while Karen's eating disorder had destructive physical manifestations, the root cause was psychological. She needed a psychotherapist who specialized in eating disorders. I don't think Karen ever went to see any type of therapist. Her death, to this day, is simply heartbreaking.
Probably didn't want to get in Tom Burris' cross hairs. I think he was paid off by the Carpenters and there might be a condition neither side will discuss things, so it was dealt with in a roundish manner.
The book appears to be highly regarded by many of those who were close - very close- to Karen like the Lefflers, Phil Ramone, his wife "Itchy", Karen's neighbors in New Haven and Downey, Herb Alpert, some of the musicians in the Carpenters, Olivia & Dionne. Richard didn't have any input on the material in the book but did not try to stop the book from publication. Personally, I think the book pretty much points the finger at the failed marriage and Agnes as the main sources of Karen's problems.
How about a they make another Karen Carpenter movie , this time with the truth? Richard stood over this entire movie & bullied writers & producers to gloss over certain things. Richard needs to let the whole truth be told . Take the gag order off Karen's ex-Husband , let him tell his side of the story .
You just want to drag her name through the mud. The movie is supposed to be a basic version of what happened. Not an in depth documentary. You people just love kicking people when they're down or dead. You're pathetic.
Smok 2112. This movie is a fanciful version of what happened. Karen NEVER read "his chubby sister" in Billboard, Karen NEVER collapsed on stage in front of an audience. Richard Carpenter NEVER fell down a flight of stairs. The account of the collapse of Karen's marriage is a complete lie and worse yet .it was advertised as the "True" story of Karen Carpenter!. Ah well, never let the facts get in the way of a good yarn.
What is on Cynthia's head?!? Karen NEVER had a hairstyle like that! Why didn't Richard say anything? Didn't the wig person know who The Carpenters were?
Nope. The closest thing I've ever heard to Karen's voice was Anni Frid Lyngstad, that dark-haired singer from Abba. She also looked like Karen, and many people still mistake them.
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Love this movie. Karen Carpenter was and is THE BEST singer of all time. I cry when I hear some of her songs. But I read a phrase recently, that helps me and I know Karen would agree. "Remember me with smiles and laughter, for that's how I'll remember you all; if you can only remember me with tears, then don't remember me at all."
sargem100
Yes that saying is so beautiful and true. From "Little House in the Prairie."
"This Masquerade" is my favorite Carpenters song.
The choice of "This Masquerade" for the scene of Karen's wedding was very subtle
MrSalzano yeah he was the gold digger Loser who used her for her money and then threw her away when the gold mine ran out. Masquerade is right
Never even knew she was married
Yes, I think Richard chose it.
its nice that richard really cares about karen.
yes. it. niice. richard care. about. his. sister. karen
At I feel so broken hearted.the pain in my heart.the emotional pain the Karen went thru about her health,marriage,career,and life.but she's no longer in pain,instead she at peace since her passing on Feb.04,1983.at 9:51a.m.
“Has it ever struck you that life is all memory, except for the one present moment that goes by you so quick you hardly catch it going?”― Tennessee Williams..............................
ABSOLUTELY this brings tears to my heart this voice this loss.
people who were enabling her, and pretending that nothing was wrong and telling her that she looked good, when she was obviously very, very sick. It was on an old Mike Douglas Show or one of those old talk shows in the 70's. He also tried to raise public awareness about Anorexia Nervosa after her death, imploring people to watch for the danger signs with loved ones, to be vigilant in getting them help to prevent another senseless tragedy.
There's a great book chronicling the life of Karen Carpenter from the cradle to the grave. The book is entitled "Little Girl Blue".The wedding incident is covered in detail in the book I believe the author's name is Schmidt. A great read tho' I think he left a few important things out, I does kind of 'fill in the blanks' on a lot of what was speculation. It does go pretty deep into her romantic relationships, eating disorder, use of ipecac/synthroid, relationship with mother, things like that.
I just ordered the book and I cannot wait to read it!
I do think too many people blame her mother. she might have been a bit of a control freak but probably was worried sick
Notice how the family said that THEY think that her and Bob should get divorced? They weren't taking her feelings into consideration at all and that's just wrong 😞
She was so controlled by everybody but she could have and should have asserted her independence. It definitely contributed to her self starvation
0.20. Richard Carpenter did NOT fall down a flight of steps. In reality he passed out in his bathroom,fell and struck his head on the toilet. He was hospitalised with an injured eye and possibly a concussion. This is yet another "urban myth" created by this movie.
I think it's called "Creative Licensing."
Thanks for making me want to read the book even more. That is incredible!
The guy who plays Richard is a doll. :) yum.
Absolutely dreamy! 💕
@@AnnabellaRedwood Mitchell Anderson. He starred on Doogie Howser with Neil Patrick Harris.
Love this movie!
i. love. the.movie
apparently they didn't show in this movie that karen did have a solo album
Which was never released, sadly.
No, Richard is still alive and kicking!
Apparently, she did an album and he kept it from being released until several years after she passed away.
Thanks! I'll have to go to Amazon and find it! (Gives me an excuse to go book shopping!) LOL :)
The treatment of Karen's marriage is very clever here. Altho' I think a lot of it is wrong. I had read that Richard had a lot of control over what went into the scripts. Cynthia Gibbs has said so. Burris told Karen just a few days before the wedding that he had had a vasectomy and could not get her pregnant, which was devastating to Karen because she wanted a family above all else. Karen originally wanted to call the wedding off but it was Agnes (karen's mom) who demanded she go thru with it.
Her mother was a heartless monster. And probably a covert narcissist too.
couldn't post on part 6...but momma had ever right to look under her shirt, she was killing herself.
what a #@%^ shame. I feel so sorry for Karen and her family. she was a great singer.
0:20-0:27 -- EXACTLY how I personally would've reacted upon seeing the real Karen collapse in her bedroom :'(
sweetlife031 Same here...
But no one saw her collapse.
How is it that they never notice how thin that person with eating disorder is before they hug her or touch her...? And BUM! - they suddenly notice and are like "Oh my God! You must get help!"
Karen often wore layers to hide how thin she got.
I love both karen and richard but richard was a lot meaner in real life
Yeah I've seen him in interviews he seems like a prick. Very talented but not nice.
Do you happen to know why he had a vasectomy or why Agnes insisted that she go through with the marriage? That was something I didn't know; but I DO remember my mother telling me that after Karen died that Richard was devastated (a lot of people think that he wasn't as upset as he should have been--but that was his SISTER; I think he would have been devastated), and that he'd tried to get Karen help. Publicly, on a talk show, he tried to get her to admit her illness and berated the (cont'd)
Richard tried everything. She was so mad at him because Rich knew she still wasn't well. He told her to her face that he was saying what he did because he loved her. 3 ½ weeks later, or so, she passed away. Rich was right. She wasn't well - she only went to different anorexic behaviors like - Epicac syrup and thyroid medicine for a thyroid problem she didn't have, to speed up her metabolism and poisoned her heart to death. It just gave out and she most likely, had a heart attack.
@@lvelez1999Richard tried everything? I think not. How on earth could they not understand that, while Karen's eating disorder had destructive physical manifestations, the root cause was psychological. She needed a psychotherapist who specialized in eating disorders. I don't think Karen ever went to see any type of therapist. Her death, to this day, is simply heartbreaking.
So much presure ....
I lol'ed when he rolled down the stairs :)
The real Richard didn,t do that though. He passed out in the bathroom.
Bob Messenger's flute, so nice.
I remember this movie
I thought Karen's husband was Tom. Why did they change it to Bob for this movie?
Probably didn't want to get in Tom Burris' cross hairs. I think he was paid off by the Carpenters and there might be a condition neither side will discuss things, so it was dealt with in a roundish manner.
Where is part 6 ?
Cynthia Gibb looks more like Gilda Radner than Karen.
Ha! She should've dyed and styled her hair for the role instead, with wigs used only sparingly.
The book appears to be highly regarded by many of those who were close - very close- to Karen like the Lefflers, Phil Ramone, his wife "Itchy", Karen's neighbors in New Haven and Downey, Herb Alpert, some of the musicians in the Carpenters, Olivia & Dionne. Richard didn't have any input on the material in the book but did not try to stop the book from publication. Personally, I think the book pretty much points the finger at the failed marriage and Agnes as the main sources of Karen's problems.
For a TV movie, it's not bad.
How about a they make another Karen Carpenter movie , this time with the truth? Richard stood over this entire movie & bullied writers & producers to gloss over certain things. Richard needs to let the whole truth be told . Take the gag order off Karen's ex-Husband , let him tell his side of the story .
And also get the timeline of events correct. This film is all over the place in that regard. The Goodbye To Love documentary is way better.
Angelbaby3 1able. Or at least make a biopic about Karen where the percentage of fact exceeds that of the fiction.
You just want to drag her name through the mud. The movie is supposed to be a basic version of what happened. Not an in depth documentary. You people just love kicking people when they're down or dead. You're pathetic.
Smok 2112. This movie is a fanciful version of what happened. Karen NEVER read "his chubby sister" in Billboard, Karen NEVER collapsed on stage in front of an audience. Richard Carpenter NEVER fell down a flight of stairs. The account of the collapse of Karen's marriage is a complete lie and worse yet .it was advertised as the "True" story of Karen Carpenter!. Ah well, never let the facts get in the way of a good yarn.
Richard (and A&M) would never allow licensing rights of Carpenters music. Richard even said he regretted this movie.
He was probably worried that she was going to do well and solo without him .
I thought Karen s husband was Tom . Why did they change the name to Bob in the movie ?
No doubt due to the confidentiality agreement that Richard made Tom sign.
karen. was too thin
What is on Cynthia's head?!? Karen NEVER had a hairstyle like that! Why didn't Richard say anything? Didn't the wig person know who The Carpenters were?
Great ..they blocked Part 6 in the UK. How can they block one part of a movie and show the rest? Idiots.
@Carpentersfan2003 i dont know where u get that from because Karen died with 10 million dollars in her bank account.
I do, too :).
Bob Knight instead of Tom Burris. Plus Karen met Burris at a restaurant, not a political event
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some of yall got some nasty mouths karen and richard were decent awesome musicans ! and what does this have to do with her bank account grow up !
she was in the hospital and then her brother...
@Sylviaknowles and its also gay in real life.. or so I have read when I looked up Mitchell Anderson online...
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If anyone believes me, in my opinion, Colbie caillat looks like Karen carpenter even her voice sounds the same as Karen isn't it?? :) :)
Nope. The closest thing I've ever heard to Karen's voice was Anni Frid Lyngstad, that dark-haired singer from Abba. She also looked like Karen, and many people still mistake them.
No one sounds like Karen and never will !!
think Colbie Cailat looks more like Jennifer Anniston than Karen Carpenter!!