if you were wondering why STBFL is so popular for wesker, it’s not just because it’s good for camping/tunneling strats; it’s because people just like to recover from M1’s faster, since they like to use their knife as wesker. sometimes, people just like to slash, lol.
I think the STBFL gets most value from the first hit, the recovery on most maps leads to a wall spam follow up guarantee. I don’t know how tunnel killers using stbfl means anyone using it is a tunnel killer
some time ago I started using brutal on Wesker, and it's really a game changing perk, you can zone out the living shit of survivors and then m2 them right after breaking a pallet. Honestly, 100% worth running on Wesker. You just need to use it wisely :>
THANK YOU! Wesker and Demo mains, stop using STBFL and start using Coup! Coup De Grace actually rewards using M2s instead of M1s, causing you to get better!
I remember when wesker dropped dodging him was like dodging blight or billy now all you dedicated wesker mains have figured out some crazy maneuvers its actually very impressive how fast the techs piled up
To any console Weskers, how hard is it for y’all to land bounds much less do hug techs? I love playing Wesker but I really struggle using his power tbh, in most cases if I’m confident I can land it I just go for the M1 especially if I know that going for a bound and missing results in free distance. I probably just have to play him more and go for bounds as much as I can.
Being skilled on console with Wesker's m2 takes a lot of practice but it's definitely achievable. I tried to main him over the summer on Xbox and while I got fairly competent with dashing, I never really got good enough imo to consider myself worthy of being a true wesker main especially not being able to pull off any advanced techs like you can on PC. The frame rate you get on consoles is such a hindrance in learning any mechanically demanding killer in dbd it's almost not worth trying. The only thing I actually got pretty good at doing was flicking with him and playing around tiles. I played on 75 sens. Anything above that is too much on controller to be consistent, at least for me.
@@shawnmclaren8924older consoles like ps4 and regular xbox one are definitely hard to play killer on, but in my experience on ps5 wesker is just as good as PC, could even do simple hug techs like on cars with practice
Hug teching is def possible with wesker. Even with second bounds but it’s just a lot harder due to frame rate. I’ve got maybe like 500 hours on wesker and land hugs pretty consistently. Even the more difficult ones
been using coup on killers like Demo, Wesker, and Slinger, and it feels so good to really force the habit of learning my m2 to its full potential while save those Coup stacks for much shorter or whack loops
I used to run it on Demo but made the same conclusion. Hinders Powerusage to a point where learning it doesn't feel worth it cuz I'll M1 more often either way. Now I basically only run it on Pig and Slinger (or Billy if I play w Speedlimiter lopro just for the memes).
I honestly think the opposite, i like it on demo than like pig, i feel like its easier to save on demo than pig. On billy i tried using rapid brutality to see if it would worked, it didnt, but stbfl on billy is probably good
I remember when Wesker came out I used it once or twice, but I realized I'd got way more hits with brutal, idk I still use BS almost every time, also u get power recharge for every infected survivor then, how is stbftl better? I can't get it
Not a good perk. Leads to bad habits and weaker can play around widows anyways. Look at cruhmbs looping guide and see for yourself. If you use windows on weskuh you are goofy
I like stbfl on wesker to hopefully catch up to the survivors after a basic attack, cause sometimes when u have the brown add on that increases the distance of the second dash, you can almost hit them a lot of the time. And personally, brutal isnt my favorite but maybe i should try it, cause stbfl doesnt always have 8 stacks
Hey I have a question , I've been watching your wesker gameplay for so long now and i still never figure it out how you slide of objects insted of bumping into them . Are you using the A and D keybinds while you are dashing or you uroband the object without pressing any aditional keybind.
why you shouldnt run STBFL 1. doesnt stack with special attack, but you probably already knew that 2. brutal strength and even coup are more consistent for looping 3. makes you rely on pathetic M1 instead of Giga-Chad M2
People that use stbfl on m2 killers in my experience just play like brainless zombies, it’s a perk that promotes zero skill expression with your m2. Absolutely boring to go against.
Playing on console (Xbox one) some of the grabs and the angles you're able to maneuver your camera into are just not possible for me, I can't use Weskers power to slide along loops like that even trying to use it to lunge off a hill just stops all momentum, so only being able to essentially move in a straight line with it STBFL works the best for me since i'm stuck playing like that, at 8 stacks at least I can M1 straight into M2 for a grab if they haven't found a a way to break line of sight from me yet.
wait u can slide off the hills with wesker's power? everytime i try i get stuck and i assumed it was so u can slam pppl on hills so they arent invincible up there but u lose the cool aspect but u just did it? explain!!
1. If you're going for an m2 every hit with either you're playing wrong. Go with which is fastest, almost always. Exception to be made if you haven't infected the surv yet with Wesker, then obviously do it on the down. 2. This is asinine logic bc Wesker is 115. Ppl call him an m2 killer as though he can't be an m1 killer. He absolutely can. Because he's both. As opposed to huntress without that dumbazz addon, who is purely m2 unless you're a masochist. 3. I use STBFL on Wesker because I also use sloppy. I want them infected AND mangled for the best of both slowdown options. Most of my chases involve an m1 and an m2 unless it's just easier to get 2 bounds. Not everyone likes or needs gen regression perks and I tend to avoid them so that I get better at what I enjoy- chasing. STBFL is never a wasted slot. I think ppl are hating on STBFL because they assume it means the player is not good at the bounds. Just like with demo, it can shine as a back pocket resource. I shred every opportunity i get which is most of the time, but those m1s accumulate quickly and it's EXTREMELY nice to have it and it not be obvious to a swf until it's too late.
I agree that STBFL should not be used on Wesker. However, you said yourself that you have a hard time ever getting 8 stacks. Players who know how to M1 well can get those 8 stacks pretty quickly on a regular basis. Tough to say a strategy isn't viable when you do not know how to run it properly to give it a fair shot. Entertaining vid!
I use it because I'm on console and therefore it's nigh impossible for me to do the m2 techs. I physically cannot turn fast enough to get value from trying. So when they're at a loop my m2 is useless like 85% of the time
i had this same problem. then switched to pc with no issues. then back to console and realized what was up- it's a lot more intuitive to look away from your slides a bit with the mouse, whereas you have to devote brain power to doing it with the stick. Now it's a non issue. Fr, try bumping your camera just a bit away from whatever you're bounding along right before dashing.
As a sbfl abuser you just don’t get it So here’s the plan use rapid brutality, and sbfl because you recover quicker, so you can pull out your power quicker and rapid makes you more faster
Never used STBFL on him but fir entirely different reason. Argument to use it, because you can save stacks with your power. But I'm not sure abt my skills and whether or not I can land a hit on obsession. So I don't use STBFL on Wesker because I couldn't maximize it's "usefulness"
Less experienced weskers run this all the time. Theyll often miss their bounds and will probrably m1 more than anything. Good weskers will run anything to avoid using m1
Late comment but since release I’ve personally enjoyed stbfl, bamboozle, dissolution, blood favor. Blood favor usually gives a free hook before getting cleansed. initiating a chase with bamboozle will push survs to an awkward spot more often than not leading to a dissolution. Bamboozle isnt necessarily bad just think about what you want to do after.
Why are Weskers suddenly running the egg lately for months it was considered one of his worst addons which I still think it is. So is it all because it boosts rebound's force moment?
I always run the same build that im used to. Stbfl, iron grasp, shadowborn, and noed. I usually get at least 2Ks or 3Ks. Don't play to truly win, but to have some ACTUAL fun
Yeah but not many of us don't know how to wall dash. Just saying man. Yes I know I'm suppose to infect but on those tight loops I can't. And may haps others have a hard time to wall dash.
bro wasted SO much time to get his m2 hits when he, despite what he was saying, could have absolutely gotten the m1 AND the pallet just brute forcing it. And he's one of the best Weskers. LMAO. STBFL is good on Wesker. Always go for your m2 when it's feasible, but yes, actually, sometimes the m1 is faster- THEN you bound them when they're running to another loop. Of friggin course it'll take you half the match to get stacks if you're determined to m2 them twice. There's no need. You can do one then the other. Furthermore, if you swap your tactics then the good survivors won't know which you're going for and you can catch them out on mistakes. This absolutely won't happen if you're always going for the bound.
You are right on stbfl. but brutal? Thats a very bad perk,hard to even notice its effect. Brutal is only good with other break speeds like fireup or something. But then you sacrificing two slots to a good effect. Brutal is a half killer perk.
What do you mean? wesker dash for mobility is one of my favorite killer power only second to billy chainsaw for distance.
if you were wondering why STBFL is so popular for wesker, it’s not just because it’s good for camping/tunneling strats; it’s because people just like to recover from M1’s faster, since they like to use their knife as wesker. sometimes, people just like to slash, lol.
I think the STBFL gets most value from the first hit, the recovery on most maps leads to a wall spam follow up guarantee.
I don’t know how tunnel killers using stbfl means anyone using it is a tunnel killer
I personally enjoy stbfl, bamboozle, dissolution, blood favor.
some time ago I started using brutal on Wesker, and it's really a game changing perk, you can zone out the living shit of survivors and then m2 them right after breaking a pallet. Honestly, 100% worth running on Wesker. You just need to use it wisely :>
After running brutal strength on Wesker from p1 too p100 i cant take it off anymore it feels too nice too use.
THANK YOU! Wesker and Demo mains, stop using STBFL and start using Coup! Coup De Grace actually rewards using M2s instead of M1s, causing you to get better!
As a demo main I don't use stbfl
No advanced demo player uses stbfl, go for enduring :)
@@Coward2006 😂
I remember when wesker dropped dodging him was like dodging blight or billy now all you dedicated wesker mains have figured out some crazy maneuvers its actually very impressive how fast the techs piled up
To any console Weskers, how hard is it for y’all to land bounds much less do hug techs? I love playing Wesker but I really struggle using his power tbh, in most cases if I’m confident I can land it I just go for the M1 especially if I know that going for a bound and missing results in free distance. I probably just have to play him more and go for bounds as much as I can.
Being skilled on console with Wesker's m2 takes a lot of practice but it's definitely achievable. I tried to main him over the summer on Xbox and while I got fairly competent with dashing, I never really got good enough imo to consider myself worthy of being a true wesker main especially not being able to pull off any advanced techs like you can on PC. The frame rate you get on consoles is such a hindrance in learning any mechanically demanding killer in dbd it's almost not worth trying. The only thing I actually got pretty good at doing was flicking with him and playing around tiles. I played on 75 sens. Anything above that is too much on controller to be consistent, at least for me.
@@shawnmclaren8924older consoles like ps4 and regular xbox one are definitely hard to play killer on, but in my experience on ps5 wesker is just as good as PC, could even do simple hug techs like on cars with practice
Bounds isn’t too bad if you catch them out in the open or on short loops, but for the life of me I still can’t get hug techs down
Hug teching is def possible with wesker. Even with second bounds but it’s just a lot harder due to frame rate. I’ve got maybe like 500 hours on wesker and land hugs pretty consistently. Even the more difficult ones
I'm using lightborn perk on Wesker because he's wearing shades.
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COUP better
I love Coup, it's my favorite perk
It's quickly became mine as well@@its_saber1525
been using coup on killers like Demo, Wesker, and Slinger, and it feels so good to really force the habit of learning my m2 to its full potential while save those Coup stacks for much shorter or whack loops
brightness and color on your screen are beautiful, mind sharing the setting ?
I used to run it on Demo but made the same conclusion. Hinders Powerusage to a point where learning it doesn't feel worth it cuz I'll M1 more often either way. Now I basically only run it on Pig and Slinger (or Billy if I play w Speedlimiter lopro just for the memes).
I honestly think the opposite, i like it on demo than like pig, i feel like its easier to save on demo than pig. On billy i tried using rapid brutality to see if it would worked, it didnt, but stbfl on billy is probably good
The worst on demo is that addons give you basically STBFL is just waste slot perk
@@dededede9257what are you smoking his add on is no where near stbfl 8 stacks but yeah you could always switch it up and run new builds
I remember when Wesker came out I used it once or twice, but I realized I'd got way more hits with brutal, idk
I still use BS almost every time, also u get power recharge for every infected survivor then, how is stbftl better? I can't get it
Weskee main here love the videos man keep it up weskee mains on top💯
Alran how about bamboozle? It helps with chase overall and not after dropping the pallet
Not a good perk. Leads to bad habits and weaker can play around widows anyways. Look at cruhmbs looping guide and see for yourself. If you use windows on weskuh you are goofy
@@marcovazquez-ou2pvHe uses windows though, he mind games them....
brother literally cannot stop me, my stbfl addiction cannot be stopped. I ONLY M2 the obsession :^)
I like stbfl on wesker to hopefully catch up to the survivors after a basic attack, cause sometimes when u have the brown add on that increases the distance of the second dash, you can almost hit them a lot of the time. And personally, brutal isnt my favorite but maybe i should try it, cause stbfl doesnt always have 8 stacks
Now that I think about it, brutal is probably better at zoning survivors
Yo i'm that feng at 0:28 getting clapped
Bro I love your filter settings
Hey I have a question , I've been watching your wesker gameplay for so long now and i still never figure it out how you slide of objects insted of bumping into them . Are you using the A and D keybinds while you are dashing or you uroband the object without pressing any aditional keybind.
Watch his wall slide and rebound tutorials
what reshaders are you using? and do u have TAA on? and whats ur graphics settings? i just really like how ur game looks
Been doing the same thing on blight for a year. Life changing perk.
why you shouldnt run STBFL
1. doesnt stack with special attack, but you probably already knew that
2. brutal strength and even coup are more consistent for looping
3. makes you rely on pathetic M1 instead of Giga-Chad M2
I will take after you my lord. I will drop my favorite perk because I put my faith in thy
People that use stbfl on m2 killers in my experience just play like brainless zombies, it’s a perk that promotes zero skill expression with your m2. Absolutely boring to go against.
The things I would do to have Autohaven look like that
I wish my gas haven looked like this, mines just a deep dark green, makes it very hard to see.
bro how many gcc do you have, and is your dipai turned up?
God DAMN your good with wesker.
What reshaders are you using? It looks awesome on Azarov
I don't really understand why people think that STBFL is good on Wesker. Using a M2 is just better.
what about combining stbfl with the iri addon to insta break pallets?
does deadlock not block pain res regressing its gen if it active?
Yes! Finally team won't fumble a 3 man save next to the gate, vs a bozo.
Playing on console (Xbox one) some of the grabs and the angles you're able to maneuver your camera into are just not possible for me, I can't use Weskers power to slide along loops like that even trying to use it to lunge off a hill just stops all momentum, so only being able to essentially move in a straight line with it STBFL works the best for me since i'm stuck playing like that, at 8 stacks at least I can M1 straight into M2 for a grab if they haven't found a a way to break line of sight from me yet.
Im on console and i can do everything he does. It take pratice 👍
@@thedutywarlord264exactly
wait u can slide off the hills with wesker's power? everytime i try i get stuck and i assumed it was so u can slam pppl on hills so they arent invincible up there but u lose the cool aspect but u just did it? explain!!
Idk, people who think STBFL is a good perk on Wesker probably think it's amazing on Huntress too.
Idk, I've ended many many chases in like 5 seconds from 5 stacks and an immediate m2.
Feels like an insta down.
1. If you're going for an m2 every hit with either you're playing wrong. Go with which is fastest, almost always. Exception to be made if you haven't infected the surv yet with Wesker, then obviously do it on the down.
2. This is asinine logic bc Wesker is 115. Ppl call him an m2 killer as though he can't be an m1 killer. He absolutely can. Because he's both. As opposed to huntress without that dumbazz addon, who is purely m2 unless you're a masochist.
3. I use STBFL on Wesker because I also use sloppy. I want them infected AND mangled for the best of both slowdown options. Most of my chases involve an m1 and an m2 unless it's just easier to get 2 bounds. Not everyone likes or needs gen regression perks and I tend to avoid them so that I get better at what I enjoy- chasing. STBFL is never a wasted slot.
I think ppl are hating on STBFL because they assume it means the player is not good at the bounds. Just like with demo, it can shine as a back pocket resource. I shred every opportunity i get which is most of the time, but those m1s accumulate quickly and it's EXTREMELY nice to have it and it not be obvious to a swf until it's too late.
@@richt7525skill issue . Stbfl isnt good on wesker
I agree that STBFL should not be used on Wesker. However, you said yourself that you have a hard time ever getting 8 stacks. Players who know how to M1 well can get those 8 stacks pretty quickly on a regular basis. Tough to say a strategy isn't viable when you do not know how to run it properly to give it a fair shot. Entertaining vid!
ok but what if i cant hug tech
ok but what if its the circle loop on nostromo
are you using reshade?
But I feel like I always get value out of it.
Hit em with m1. Immediately catch em with m2. Legit feels like an insta down.
1. U dont improve your m2 skills much
2. It takes the whole game to build up stacks to do that
3. U waste more time in chases overall
@@sabo.13 Waste more time in chases over all when you catch them immediately makes sense
@@notyannzyou dont play him correctly lol . His dash counters almost every loops and he has passive showdown with his power . Better not use stbfl
I have never used STBFL on wesker ever... I normally run
Nowhere to hide
Shadowborn
Call of Brine
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Dissolution
Shadowborn
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I play on Switch and my favorite way to play Wesker is a Shaman build. I think my mistake was being poor lol
I use it because I'm on console and therefore it's nigh impossible for me to do the m2 techs. I physically cannot turn fast enough to get value from trying. So when they're at a loop my m2 is useless like 85% of the time
Not true. On 100 sense m2 is viable at almost every loop
Just play a m1 killer then
Love the tofu shoutout
how about brutal strength with fire up?
I would try but I’m on a controller and it feels like every time I use m2 I get stopped on a dust particle so I just M1
i had this same problem. then switched to pc with no issues. then back to console and realized what was up- it's a lot more intuitive to look away from your slides a bit with the mouse, whereas you have to devote brain power to doing it with the stick. Now it's a non issue.
Fr, try bumping your camera just a bit away from whatever you're bounding along right before dashing.
Idk why anyone thinks m1 perks are good on wesker, anyone who's played wesker seriously should know you should be primarily m2ing
Also the same reason to not use stbfl on demo
Brutal is underrated in general
I play the Killer wrong. Yes.
As a sbfl abuser you just don’t get it
So here’s the plan use rapid brutality, and sbfl because you recover quicker, so you can pull out your power quicker and rapid makes you more faster
Is it easier to do wesker techs on pc more than controller? Cause i play on pc with controller instead of mouse and keyboard and im struggling TWT
Everything in dbd is easier on pc lol
@@6ToesHeACreaturePC survivor isn't easier than console surv
Doesnt matter if you're on pc or controller it just take pratice .
Never used STBFL on him but fir entirely different reason. Argument to use it, because you can save stacks with your power. But I'm not sure abt my skills and whether or not I can land a hit on obsession. So I don't use STBFL on Wesker because I couldn't maximize it's "usefulness"
I can and it works
I like it to m1 to m2 transition if I need to.
The build I run doesn’t get value out brutal too much so this video is a nothing burger for me
Less experienced weskers run this all the time. Theyll often miss their bounds and will probrably m1 more than anything. Good weskers will run anything to avoid using m1
Is that a va11halla ost I hear?
You gotta keep in mind that your playing autohaven which is one of the best map for wesker m2
how come you make it a point not to use uni on wesker? just curious, cos imo its like a top 3 add on for him
Kinda of a crutch maybe.
I wonder, is Bamboozle good ot bad on Wesker?
Late comment but since release I’ve personally enjoyed stbfl, bamboozle, dissolution, blood favor.
Blood favor usually gives a free hook before getting cleansed. initiating a chase with bamboozle will push survs to an awkward spot more often than not leading to a dissolution.
Bamboozle isnt necessarily bad just think about what you want to do after.
Video ended at 23:00 everything past it is a yapping session 💀💀💀
Thanks, now make the STBFL "Demos" believe the same thing :)
This won’t ever happen, people play demo wrong.
Stbfl is a trap, along side any other M1 perk. M1 perks are meant for M1 killers, not M2 killers.
Why are Weskers suddenly running the egg lately for months it was considered one of his worst addons which I still think it is. So is it all because it boosts rebound's force moment?
they use the extra time to go for cool hits and hug techs. it also throws survivors off sometimes but i agree with you.
The addons egg is one of his best addon And average wesker use it so they have time to predict survivors movements.
No. I’ll even use rapid brutality on top of it!!
I need to get better at Weskers dash oh man...
I never use STBFL - I just suck
Egg
Sometimes it's more rational to hit with m1 attack than miss m2 one. So stacking 8 SBFL tokens is pretty doable even if you're good at Weskuh
Also, with 8 stacks you're able to kinda one shot a survivor by hitting m1 attack and then almost instantly charge your power and get them with m2
Did you watch the video?
i dont think bro watched the video@@Excrucio-says-hf
@@calicohkatz someone needs to get bro to watch the video
@Excrucio-says-hf he's stunting his wesker growth with save someone stop him! 😡
I always run the same build that im used to. Stbfl, iron grasp, shadowborn, and noed. I usually get at least 2Ks or 3Ks. Don't play to truly win, but to have some ACTUAL fun
I only really run stbfl on deathslinger. Most overhyped perk of all time, really.
Yeah but not many of us don't know how to wall dash. Just saying man. Yes I know I'm suppose to infect but on those tight loops I can't. And may haps others have a hard time to wall dash.
Well I play on console and suck with wesker so I need to use my basic attacks because hug techs are too hard 🙂
4K and 3K
bro wasted SO much time to get his m2 hits when he, despite what he was saying, could have absolutely gotten the m1 AND the pallet just brute forcing it. And he's one of the best Weskers. LMAO.
STBFL is good on Wesker. Always go for your m2 when it's feasible, but yes, actually, sometimes the m1 is faster- THEN you bound them when they're running to another loop. Of friggin course it'll take you half the match to get stacks if you're determined to m2 them twice. There's no need. You can do one then the other.
Furthermore, if you swap your tactics then the good survivors won't know which you're going for and you can catch them out on mistakes. This absolutely won't happen if you're always going for the bound.
use coup over both, it guarantees hits when and if you vault over filler pallets
dont tell me what to do
20:48 actually not even
title should be stop using stbfl (on every killer)
20:47 Nuh uh.
No
😱
wtf
i am sorry for using STBFL as a trash wesker player
it will happen again
You are right on stbfl. but brutal? Thats a very bad perk,hard to even notice its effect. Brutal is only good with other break speeds like fireup or something. But then you sacrificing two slots to a good effect. Brutal is a half killer perk.
Save best for last should only be a reward after good playing lmaoo just for fun u know? Lol
egg
No 🗿
U get it for free if u use m2
Also it's boring to m1 wesker
Nahh this is propaganda, I'ma keep using stbfl noed bam sloppy wesker 👍
Don't care, stbfl best perk on wesker