Most Johnny Appleseed depictions seem to characterize him as a chipper, innocent young man, and I think that's a major waste of potential. By all accounts, John Chapman was a scraggly unshaven half-naked religious weirdo who wandered around barefoot and lived in the woods (even though he owned a lot of property). He's much better suited as a CRYPTID, not just a folk hero
@@werothegreatI thought that with the Transcendentalist movement back then, it would be a prominent intellectual current, not unlike Benjamin Franklin.
I love these deep-dives into the package films in particular since you never really see anyone talk about them outside of "every disney film ranked" videos
Growing up in Massachusetts, with its first rate education system, I’m once again saddened by the lack of proper Native American history. I was a 70s-80s child. I have no idea what’s in the curriculum these days. Somewhat more heartening, has been with my experience teaching off and on in Miami since the mid 1990s. The history of the Seminole and Miccosukee, as well as the earlier Calusa and Tequesta (as much in all cases is accesible) is something I try to stress. Young students, and quite a few adults surprisingly, are very much interested. Many South Florida journals, magazines and books written by pioneers, straight through the1950s, speak highly of Seminoles at least. I do find this to be positive, though most Americans outside of this area have little knowledge of it.
Also, can’t wait for your take on Pocahontas! Had no idea how shocking Disney’s Pecos Bill was. So much clamor directed at the infamous part of Peter Pan. Before your video, I don’t recall anyone pointing out the Painted Desert part, or anything else about Melody Time. Thanks again for your enlightening.
Ohioan, here. Was in school between 1998-2010. Almost every single thing we were taught aside from the names of tribes in our state was wrong. My school didn't even teach how Ohio actually got settled in the first place, & I'm still unsure if any schools in Ohio do, because we have no statewide standardized curriculum. We don't really have a very strong Native presence here to put the record straight. Even actual historians screw a lot of stuff up & whenever I've networked with both professional & layman historians, we've all ended up learning things between each other the other had absolutely no clue about.
4:24 Also a debate in the Norwegian parliament, with the Progress Party suggesting forced cultural assimilation was a good thing, and that Norway should withdraw from ILO Convention 169, plus that the Sami Parliament (which has the role of presenting Sami specific issues to the national parliament) should be permanently dismissed.
How come it's always the ones who won't have to change extolling the virtues of other people assimilating... Like yeah one culture is a great idea, when are y'all learning Sami?
Kwai.. I'm Abenaki and I was lucky to have a wonderful family who taught me about our culture and Heritage.. My grandmother planted a three sisters garden and our spiritual practices..I have passed it on to my daughters and now my granddaughters..I wish that non indigenous people would leave our culture alone..
Some of the media I find myself watching the most are stuff from the 1960s-1980s. I've noticed that the 60s in America had a... very strange obsession with racist caricatures, the two I've noticed being that of Asian (most specifically Chinese) and Native Americans. The Hanna-Barbara cartoon The Impossibles had had two instances of Native American caricatures, one where the Natives are cacti and the other where it's implied that he is part of the circus. I love The Impossibles but the caricatures they have sprinkled in there are just really uncomfortable. I don't know if it makes things better considering the Impossibles themselves are a band consisting of three white men while a number of the villains "for the episode" are much more diverse. Even two animations dedicated to The Beatles had some sort of stereotyping. My favorite scene being the Sea of Beasts in Yellow Submarine has an instance of putting Native Americans in a caricature... which is further worsened by the context of the scene and how they "solve the issue to save Ringo". One of my guilty pleasures, The Tales of the Wizard of Oz, has an entire episode dedicated to Chinese caricatures. I find it really weird how, in some way, generations grew up on harmful depictions and false history. Racism also just does not make sense to me when we're all just humans with our own differences. Egos have a really big impact to where it screws others over. That's really saddening. Read Custer Died For Your Sins by Vine Deloria Jr., by the way.
Pawpaw is not native to North America, they were brought here by mesoamerican traders before European settlement. There are many many native fruit trees like black cherry, hawthorn, plum, crabapple, and persimmon
It was funny that you got to Johnny Appleseed, mainly because he was our subject for gesture drawing class last week. The teacher also talked about his relationship with Native Americans as well.
...I don't know when you went to school, but they definitely taught my class about manifest destiny and the trail of tears when I was in grade school in the 90s. Although school is probably worse now, with all the book banning and "keep facts out of education" crusades of the past decade. Also Europeans wouldn't have been familiar with monoculture/monocropping farming at the time, it practically didn't exist. The three field system of crop rotation was understood and almost universally practiced in Europe at the time the first colonizers and settlers from Europe arrived in the Americas, and in a pre-industrialized agricultural society nobody would've mistaken a garden planted with several crops for a weed patch. If there are any contemporary accounts from Europeans describing NA farms as weed patches, I'd love to read them.
"...they definitely taught my class about manifest destiny and the trail of tears when I was in grade school in the 90s." I can assure you that we were taught these things in the 1960s and 70s. For ideological reasons, some people like to pretend that American history classes haven't changed since 1915. I wonder how bad the high school textbooks of 1915 actually were...
Cmon out next September. We’ve got several acres of pawpaws and there are several pawpaw festivals nearby. My favorite variety are mango pawpaws. I live and work at an agricultural research center that focuses on indigenous food sovereignty and education. We got coyotes too. 😎
Big Disney fan, been checking out these videos, all really good. To be honest, Melody Time is probably my least favourite Disney “canon” film from the Walt era. Even putting aside the racism (which, y’know, kinda hard to do) there’s no standout segment like there is in Make Mine Music or even Saludos Amigos. It’s just a pretty boring movie. I’m super excited for your video on Ichabod and Mr Toad though, it’s one of my favourites and easily the best package film imo.
The Three Caballeros is def my favorite of the package films, but Ichabod & Mr. Toad is definitely up there! I've already started writing up my script for the review!
I just learned about Cahokia the other day. It illuminated for me just How Much is not being taught or retained. We know All About the middle ages in Europe culturally but Nothing about Native American history for the same period of history.
Nahhhh, I'd still choose Fancy Fun Funny over Melody crime any day, the only bit I really like here is Jose Carioca's one. The rest of them I couldn't care less, probably because I'm not american
This continues to be interesting, but in a new way. As a Norwegian , grown ut with disney as a part of the background noise and eventually spotting the disneyficacation of stories and world view, it’s really interesting to hear about it from an American angle. Or finally a less glossy one, less Technicolor, more anger. But I’m still waiting for more about the psychedelics of disney animation, like the Melody time 😂
After I learned about the paw paw nearly ten years ago I went on a mission to find one and eat it. Sadly the only time I found one it wasn't ripe. I will eat one before I die!
In the 60s and 70S Oklahoma Students got a double dose of the Trail of Tears. We learned about Manifest Destiny, small,pox blankets, slavery, lynchings, the Bund, racial bigotry you know, the not-so- pretty bits as well as the good bits. What the heck happened? I was surprised to hear that such things were still being taught in the 90s.
Depends on the school district, and the grade. Elementary school you almost always get the sanitized Pilgrims + Squanto version. By high school you hopefully are given a more accurate version, but by then the damage is done.
@ yes, it wasn’t until middle school I learned the ugly truth. It was kind of brutal because the younger me thought we were all just one big happy family. I went to an intergtated school until 7th grade. Gotta admit, I learned some tough lessons on human nature.
Honestly I'm not surprised by the lack of representation in the South America cartoons given that Walt Disney grew up in the South. He either didn't even think about what he was doing, or thought that it would get him in trouble with Southern movie theater chains.
It might not have even been a thought in his mind that this might look bad, at all. His whole idea for Latin influence wasn't hiring people from those regions inasmuch as paying for all his writers, animators & actors to take a trip to South America for the sake of inspiration. Plus, I think there was a brief Caribbean music boom in the US in the 50s, so it isn't surprising that, if he had musicians & singers, they were already vaguely familiar with the genre.
remember the reason for the south american movies can be boiled down to "south americans are too close to the icky germans we don't really care about latino people but we currently hate all german people, so we have to cope". But then South Americans love the movies, so do with that what you will
Actually, Johnny Appleseed is NOT responsible for the apples you buy at the grocery store. Domesticated apple genetics isn't hardwired, so the only way to get the same type of fruit in a new tree is to make a cutting & forward that into a clone, but Johnny Appleseed was obsessive that they should he planted from seed, the way God intended all plants to work. So, most of his orchards ended up being used primarily for cider, up until we entered prohibition & killed all the cider orchards in Ohio, because that's all they were good for. Though, we have apparently discovered a few varieties of his apples still existing in forgotten orchards in the middle of nowhere in Oregon recently, so some are coming back. Lol
I'm guessing that the Pocahontas video is going to be about Oscar-baiting now huh. But in terms of Melody Time, I personally prefer it over Make Mine Music
@@werothegreat 8:16 Move aside Mulan, Little Toot is the first Disney protagonist with a kill count. (But I do need to mention that the segment is actually based off of a children's book originally published in 1939)
Excellent video... I'd never heard of Melody Time. But yeah... as important as it is to acknowledge the past... we must also accept that the past is not the present, nor the future. England, France, and Spain did to the rest of Eurasia, exactly what happened in America, and the rest of the world... pretty much for a solid 900 years. If you weren't their idea of a "civilization" then you weren't civilized, and needed conquered. This is why, for all intents and purposes, "white people" don't exist outside of America, Canada, Australia, and South Africa... you'll never be able to lump Italians and Germans together racially... or any other "white" countries for that matter, because they are all separate entities. The part I hate about content like this, is it doesn't accomplish anything beyond proving how racist English, French and Spanish peoples were... and how, consequently, racist America was. The people alive today, are not the genocidal forces of 100 years ago... we aren't even the racist biggots of 75 years ago, who produced "Melody Time" and countless other films. I love learning about the horrrs of the past... but unless it's in conjunction with an understanding that the Americans of today are night-and-day from the Americans of the past, and provides a means to actually move forward... then what's the point besides fanning the flames of animosity? I'm optimistic America and the world will find a way to move forward from the atrocities of the past. Take care, my friend!
Ironically the "white" people of North America and Australia have lumped Europeans together. Historically America hated the Irish and Italians, to this day the west really has it out for Slavic people, and it's lesser known, but in WW1 Canada and America interned German and Ukrainian people, and in WW2 German and Italian people were interned (not as much as the Japanese but still) in Canada, America, Australia, England, Scotland, Wales, and sometimes in South America and Mexico. Heck even some popular media ppl forget has offensive depictions of Europeans. 16 Candles has a line where the dad is happy about the sister of the main girl not marrying an "oily Bohunk". "Bohunk" is an anti-Hungarian slur. Are You Afraid of the Dark has the episode Nightly Neighbors where the Ukrainian neighbors are constantly demonized for being Ukrainian. The girl makes several weird comments about how they're suspicious because they're from Rovno, Ukraine, and its around those other places; Romania, Albania, Russia, Poland, etc", and straight up says "they're not like us". Anne of Green Gables hates Italian and German people. When Anne's hair turns green she's told to not let Italians inside. RIlla of Ingleside is set in WW1 and demonizes ALL Germans even regular people every time it gets. Not one German character is a hero, not one positive thing is said. So yeah.
Thanksgiving has nothing to do with that. It was created to be a day where the nation gave thanks to God and nothing else. Learn your history it's literally written down in the library of Congress.
Thanksgiving, as celebrated in the United States, is directly traced back to the event I mentioned, which is often called "the First Thanksgiving", and is taught about in K-12 education. That's why Pilgrim imagery features heavily during Thanksgiving. That's why we eat turkey. Yes, technically the word "thanksgiving" is a generic word referring to giving thanks to a deity, but I was specifically talking about the United States tradition, which I thought was pretty clear in context.
@@werothegreat It IS largely nonsense, though. Much of what you said was just as much an exaggerated, naive and warped interpretation of history as the rose-colored glasses view of history you were virtue-signaling against. Fact is, not every square inch of the continent was inhabited, there WERE vast areas of wilderness where Indians weren't living, not everywhere was "full" and not every settlement was Tenochtitlan. And speaking as someone of Comanche and Shoshone heritage, there's nothing wrong with White Americans having their own folklore that doesn't center on other people, because for the record, American Indians did much the same, i.e, they "erased" or even "othered" other Indians. I'm sure you know where the name "Comanche" comes from. It's a bit tiring hearing "virtuous" white folk feel the need to denigrate and deconstruct their own folklore as if it does any good.
@@werothegreatAt least there are these remnants that the common uneducated people can seek out to remember and find the truth if they want to like the names of High school sports teams....oh wait. It never accused to you that The Lance Christopher Columbus were seeking were called Hindustan, Indians was shortened from indigenous which meant under God. Why wouldn't anyone be caught to be called under God, Mr Imago Dei.?
I just finished watching. Thank you for making this. Based on the poignancy of the sarcasm used in this video, I'd like to believe you are NativAm? I hope so. I'm on the other side of the world but I want to teach my people about the REAL owners of the land of usamerica. If you have more of this specific topic, I'd be glad to spread your videos about Native peoples and their erasure by the, you-know-who- the voldemorts. Thanks again. 🪶🇺🇸
Most Johnny Appleseed depictions seem to characterize him as a chipper, innocent young man, and I think that's a major waste of potential. By all accounts, John Chapman was a scraggly unshaven half-naked religious weirdo who wandered around barefoot and lived in the woods (even though he owned a lot of property). He's much better suited as a CRYPTID, not just a folk hero
He was also a vegetarian, which may as well have been a cryptid in the 1800s
I bet that John Chapman and the Bigfoot would've been great pals
Awe a vegan like kane ya say
@@werothegreatI thought that with the Transcendentalist movement back then, it would be a prominent intellectual current, not unlike Benjamin Franklin.
I love these deep-dives into the package films in particular since you never really see anyone talk about them outside of "every disney film ranked" videos
19:53 My drop dropped to the floor when that happened. Like, good fucking lord, why?!
Growing up in Massachusetts, with its first rate education system, I’m once again saddened by the lack of proper Native American history. I was a 70s-80s child. I have no idea what’s in the curriculum these days.
Somewhat more heartening, has been with my experience teaching off and on in Miami since the mid 1990s. The history of the Seminole and Miccosukee, as well as the earlier Calusa and Tequesta (as much in all cases is accesible) is something I try to stress. Young students, and quite a few adults surprisingly, are very much interested. Many South Florida journals, magazines and books written by pioneers, straight through the1950s, speak highly of Seminoles at least. I do find this to be positive, though most Americans outside of this area have little knowledge of it.
Also, can’t wait for your take on Pocahontas!
Had no idea how shocking Disney’s Pecos Bill was. So much clamor directed at the infamous part of Peter Pan. Before your video, I don’t recall anyone pointing out the Painted Desert part, or anything else about Melody Time. Thanks again for your enlightening.
Ohioan, here. Was in school between 1998-2010. Almost every single thing we were taught aside from the names of tribes in our state was wrong. My school didn't even teach how Ohio actually got settled in the first place, & I'm still unsure if any schools in Ohio do, because we have no statewide standardized curriculum. We don't really have a very strong Native presence here to put the record straight. Even actual historians screw a lot of stuff up & whenever I've networked with both professional & layman historians, we've all ended up learning things between each other the other had absolutely no clue about.
The Pilgrims of the Plymouth Pantations stayed at peace with the Native Americans. The Puritans of Boston were impressively bloody handed.
4:24 Also a debate in the Norwegian parliament, with the Progress Party suggesting forced cultural assimilation was a good thing, and that Norway should withdraw from ILO Convention 169, plus that the Sami Parliament (which has the role of presenting Sami specific issues to the national parliament) should be permanently dismissed.
How come it's always the ones who won't have to change extolling the virtues of other people assimilating... Like yeah one culture is a great idea, when are y'all learning Sami?
@@naomistarlight6178 Think Progress Party MPs would rather eat their shoes than learn Sami.
I believe that in Canada, the final residential school closed in the 90’s
correct, 1998 to be exact
@ it was also in New Brunswick too wasnt it?
Kwai.. I'm Abenaki and I was lucky to have a wonderful family who taught me about our culture and Heritage.. My grandmother planted a three sisters garden and our spiritual practices..I have passed it on to my daughters and now my granddaughters..I wish that non indigenous people would leave our culture alone..
Some of the media I find myself watching the most are stuff from the 1960s-1980s. I've noticed that the 60s in America had a... very strange obsession with racist caricatures, the two I've noticed being that of Asian (most specifically Chinese) and Native Americans. The Hanna-Barbara cartoon The Impossibles had had two instances of Native American caricatures, one where the Natives are cacti and the other where it's implied that he is part of the circus. I love The Impossibles but the caricatures they have sprinkled in there are just really uncomfortable. I don't know if it makes things better considering the Impossibles themselves are a band consisting of three white men while a number of the villains "for the episode" are much more diverse.
Even two animations dedicated to The Beatles had some sort of stereotyping. My favorite scene being the Sea of Beasts in Yellow Submarine has an instance of putting Native Americans in a caricature... which is further worsened by the context of the scene and how they "solve the issue to save Ringo".
One of my guilty pleasures, The Tales of the Wizard of Oz, has an entire episode dedicated to Chinese caricatures.
I find it really weird how, in some way, generations grew up on harmful depictions and false history. Racism also just does not make sense to me when we're all just humans with our own differences. Egos have a really big impact to where it screws others over. That's really saddening.
Read Custer Died For Your Sins by Vine Deloria Jr., by the way.
I think that might have been a backlash to Civil Rights from the people writing.
My favorite part of Melody Time is when Mickey said "It's Melody Time" and started melodying all over the place
Gawrsh!
*Donald Duck
I’ve eaten a pawpaw! They taste like a banana crossed with a mango.
Hm I wonder why the video starts with a really good lesson about Native American history!
20:11
Oh!
I Used to watch Melody Time a lot as a Baby. These Disney videos are fun to watch. 😂
Pawpaw is not native to North America, they were brought here by mesoamerican traders before European settlement. There are many many native fruit trees like black cherry, hawthorn, plum, crabapple, and persimmon
It was funny that you got to Johnny Appleseed, mainly because he was our subject for gesture drawing class last week. The teacher also talked about his relationship with Native Americans as well.
...I don't know when you went to school, but they definitely taught my class about manifest destiny and the trail of tears when I was in grade school in the 90s. Although school is probably worse now, with all the book banning and "keep facts out of education" crusades of the past decade.
Also Europeans wouldn't have been familiar with monoculture/monocropping farming at the time, it practically didn't exist. The three field system of crop rotation was understood and almost universally practiced in Europe at the time the first colonizers and settlers from Europe arrived in the Americas, and in a pre-industrialized agricultural society nobody would've mistaken a garden planted with several crops for a weed patch. If there are any contemporary accounts from Europeans describing NA farms as weed patches, I'd love to read them.
"...they definitely taught my class about manifest destiny and the trail of tears when I was in grade school in the 90s." I can assure you that we were taught these things in the 1960s and 70s. For ideological reasons, some people like to pretend that American history classes haven't changed since 1915. I wonder how bad the high school textbooks of 1915 actually were...
Cmon out next September. We’ve got several acres of pawpaws and there are several pawpaw festivals nearby. My favorite variety are mango pawpaws. I live and work at an agricultural research center that focuses on indigenous food sovereignty and education. We got coyotes too. 😎
Amazing as always, I'm extremely excited for next episode. I love Mr. Toad and I'm really excited to see what you do with it!
This was really interesting and well researched. Thank you
Big Disney fan, been checking out these videos, all really good. To be honest, Melody Time is probably my least favourite Disney “canon” film from the Walt era. Even putting aside the racism (which, y’know, kinda hard to do) there’s no standout segment like there is in Make Mine Music or even Saludos Amigos. It’s just a pretty boring movie. I’m super excited for your video on Ichabod and Mr Toad though, it’s one of my favourites and easily the best package film imo.
The Three Caballeros is def my favorite of the package films, but Ichabod & Mr. Toad is definitely up there! I've already started writing up my script for the review!
@@werothegreatvery excited to see if you’re a Wind in the Willows guy or a Sleepy Hollow guy 😛
12:24 yeah I just had that realization like last week. This video is so timely.
Dude i love your analysis!
Its really great how youre going through the whole disney library.
Thanks 👍
Slowly but surely!
7:22 I wonder if this is where the idea for Roger Rabbit and Jessica Rabbit's relationship came from.
I just learned about Cahokia the other day. It illuminated for me just How Much is not being taught or retained. We know All About the middle ages in Europe culturally but Nothing about Native American history for the same period of history.
Nahhhh, I'd still choose Fancy Fun Funny over Melody crime any day, the only bit I really like here is Jose Carioca's one. The rest of them I couldn't care less, probably because I'm not american
"Melody Crime" is a good one ngl. Bongo and Bergen just make F&FF untouchable for me.
Fancy Fun Funny 💀
This continues to be interesting, but in a new way. As a Norwegian , grown ut with disney as a part of the background noise and eventually spotting the disneyficacation of stories and world view, it’s really interesting to hear about it from an American angle. Or finally a less glossy one, less Technicolor, more anger. But I’m still waiting for more about the psychedelics of disney animation, like the Melody time 😂
After I learned about the paw paw nearly ten years ago I went on a mission to find one and eat it. Sadly the only time I found one it wasn't ripe. I will eat one before I die!
In the 60s and 70S Oklahoma Students got a double dose of the Trail of Tears. We learned about Manifest Destiny, small,pox blankets, slavery, lynchings, the Bund, racial bigotry you know, the not-so- pretty bits as well as the good bits. What the heck happened? I was surprised to hear that such things were still being taught in the 90s.
Depends on the school district, and the grade. Elementary school you almost always get the sanitized Pilgrims + Squanto version. By high school you hopefully are given a more accurate version, but by then the damage is done.
@ yes, it wasn’t until middle school I learned the ugly truth. It was kind of brutal because the younger me thought we were all just one big happy family. I went to an intergtated school until 7th grade. Gotta admit, I learned some tough lessons on human nature.
Pecos Bill isn't real? A THEME PARK GIFT SHOP LIED TO ME?! 😢
You, good sire, have earned a new subscriber.
Evidently the narrator has never been to Flagstaff, AZ.
Honestly I'm not surprised by the lack of representation in the South America cartoons given that Walt Disney grew up in the South. He either didn't even think about what he was doing, or thought that it would get him in trouble with Southern movie theater chains.
Walt grew up in the Midwestern US
@@KaminoKatie I guess you're right. Having lived in the west coast my whole life, I always think of Missouri as being part of the south.
It might not have even been a thought in his mind that this might look bad, at all. His whole idea for Latin influence wasn't hiring people from those regions inasmuch as paying for all his writers, animators & actors to take a trip to South America for the sake of inspiration. Plus, I think there was a brief Caribbean music boom in the US in the 50s, so it isn't surprising that, if he had musicians & singers, they were already vaguely familiar with the genre.
@@MrChristianDT Said-trip is mandated by the US goverment mind you so that they can get more friendly with their Latin American neighbors during WWII
remember the reason for the south american movies can be boiled down to "south americans are too close to the icky germans we don't really care about latino people but we currently hate all german people, so we have to cope". But then South Americans love the movies, so do with that what you will
I may not be Angela, but I needed to hear that bit about everyone being imposters. Hit me right in the breastplate.
Actually, Johnny Appleseed is NOT responsible for the apples you buy at the grocery store. Domesticated apple genetics isn't hardwired, so the only way to get the same type of fruit in a new tree is to make a cutting & forward that into a clone, but Johnny Appleseed was obsessive that they should he planted from seed, the way God intended all plants to work. So, most of his orchards ended up being used primarily for cider, up until we entered prohibition & killed all the cider orchards in Ohio, because that's all they were good for. Though, we have apparently discovered a few varieties of his apples still existing in forgotten orchards in the middle of nowhere in Oregon recently, so some are coming back. Lol
I literally discussed all of that in the video, but thank you for commenting!
1st encounter with channel, love the sarcastic voice 😅
The Appalachians, the people group not the mountains, are a great example
I'm guessing that the Pocahontas video is going to be about Oscar-baiting now huh. But in terms of Melody Time, I personally prefer it over Make Mine Music
I have plans for Pocahontas. Oscar baiting will probably be mentioned, but it won't be the main theme.
@@werothegreat 8:16 Move aside Mulan, Little Toot is the first Disney protagonist with a kill count.
(But I do need to mention that the segment is actually based off of a children's book originally published in 1939)
Haha I kind of like vague titles sometimes. A modern one I can think of is Everything Everywhere All At Once.
See but that one is so appropriate once you watch the movie!
Fun video
I love this sequence, but yeah...
I feel like you have to mention that Squanto was Catholic lol
Excellent video... I'd never heard of Melody Time.
But yeah... as important as it is to acknowledge the past... we must also accept that the past is not the present, nor the future. England, France, and Spain did to the rest of Eurasia, exactly what happened in America, and the rest of the world... pretty much for a solid 900 years. If you weren't their idea of a "civilization" then you weren't civilized, and needed conquered.
This is why, for all intents and purposes, "white people" don't exist outside of America, Canada, Australia, and South Africa... you'll never be able to lump Italians and Germans together racially... or any other "white" countries for that matter, because they are all separate entities.
The part I hate about content like this, is it doesn't accomplish anything beyond proving how racist English, French and Spanish peoples were... and how, consequently, racist America was.
The people alive today, are not the genocidal forces of 100 years ago... we aren't even the racist biggots of 75 years ago, who produced "Melody Time" and countless other films.
I love learning about the horrrs of the past... but unless it's in conjunction with an understanding that the Americans of today are night-and-day from the Americans of the past, and provides a means to actually move forward... then what's the point besides fanning the flames of animosity?
I'm optimistic America and the world will find a way to move forward from the atrocities of the past. Take care, my friend!
Ironically the "white" people of North America and Australia have lumped Europeans together. Historically America hated the Irish and Italians, to this day the west really has it out for Slavic people, and it's lesser known, but in WW1 Canada and America interned German and Ukrainian people, and in WW2 German and Italian people were interned (not as much as the Japanese but still) in Canada, America, Australia, England, Scotland, Wales, and sometimes in South America and Mexico.
Heck even some popular media ppl forget has offensive depictions of Europeans. 16 Candles has a line where the dad is happy about the sister of the main girl not marrying an "oily Bohunk". "Bohunk" is an anti-Hungarian slur. Are You Afraid of the Dark has the episode Nightly Neighbors where the Ukrainian neighbors are constantly demonized for being Ukrainian. The girl makes several weird comments about how they're suspicious because they're from Rovno, Ukraine, and its around those other places; Romania, Albania, Russia, Poland, etc", and straight up says "they're not like us". Anne of Green Gables hates Italian and German people. When Anne's hair turns green she's told to not let Italians inside. RIlla of Ingleside is set in WW1 and demonizes ALL Germans even regular people every time it gets. Not one German character is a hero, not one positive thing is said. So yeah.
They remove africans out of africa in Tarzan and lion king
This youtuber, is he a white guy? What ethnicity from europe?
Just confirming . . . Although, I hope he is a Nativam.
Omg, me ☝️
You!
Thanksgiving has nothing to do with that. It was created to be a day where the nation gave thanks to God and nothing else.
Learn your history it's literally written down in the library of Congress.
Thanksgiving, as celebrated in the United States, is directly traced back to the event I mentioned, which is often called "the First Thanksgiving", and is taught about in K-12 education. That's why Pilgrim imagery features heavily during Thanksgiving. That's why we eat turkey. Yes, technically the word "thanksgiving" is a generic word referring to giving thanks to a deity, but I was specifically talking about the United States tradition, which I thought was pretty clear in context.
@@werothegreatCanada has their Thanksgiving in October
@@KaminoKatie Yes, but he's talking about the United States numbnuts.
7 minutes of nonsense good God what a waste it took that long to get to the video
I don't think you understand the concept of a video essay buddy
@@werothegreat It IS largely nonsense, though. Much of what you said was just as much an exaggerated, naive and warped interpretation of history as the rose-colored glasses view of history you were virtue-signaling against. Fact is, not every square inch of the continent was inhabited, there WERE vast areas of wilderness where Indians weren't living, not everywhere was "full" and not every settlement was Tenochtitlan. And speaking as someone of Comanche and Shoshone heritage, there's nothing wrong with White Americans having their own folklore that doesn't center on other people, because for the record, American Indians did much the same, i.e, they "erased" or even "othered" other Indians. I'm sure you know where the name "Comanche" comes from. It's a bit tiring hearing "virtuous" white folk feel the need to denigrate and deconstruct their own folklore as if it does any good.
Next time just read the transcript.
@@werothegreatAt least there are these remnants that the common uneducated people can seek out to remember and find the truth if they want to like the names of High school sports teams....oh wait.
It never accused to you that The Lance Christopher Columbus were seeking were called Hindustan, Indians was shortened from indigenous which meant under God.
Why wouldn't anyone be caught to be called under God, Mr Imago Dei.?
Those are the best parts of video essays tho. :(
Cowboys were black indians
I just finished watching. Thank you for making this. Based on the poignancy of the sarcasm used in this video, I'd like to believe you are NativAm? I hope so. I'm on the other side of the world but I want to teach my people about the REAL owners of the land of usamerica. If you have more of this specific topic, I'd be glad to spread your videos about Native peoples and their erasure by the, you-know-who- the voldemorts. Thanks again. 🪶🇺🇸
I'm white. Just trying to do my part to advocate for the people who were here first.