As I said before this was recorded before the last video I uploaded. But i hope you still guys enjoy! Note: I agree that ilia is not the full package, as his skating leaves a lot to be desired, and is why I wish Shoma Uno had skated clean enough to win. But I am still excited about Ilia Malinin's win as it will only motivate him to grow and become a better skater
@@alienordaumas6198 I saw the results and didn’t have the courage to watch, I know I was gonna cry! I love Kevin and when he implode, it breaks my heart! I can’t see that!
I really hate how kaori's talents are being diminished because she doesn't do a 3A or quad. "They" forget how much strength it takes to have fabulous SS and centered spins and a long running edge out of a jump. Kaori isn't even my fave, but to see her belittled is very sad.
Couldn't agree more, and I've noticed the judges rarely give her the full GOE score she deserves on that double axel too! NO-ONE does a 2A like her. Not even close!!
Her talent is diminished due to not being called on her flutz and 3/4 pre-rotation. Korea's Chaeyon Kim has a true clear outside edge lutz with minimal pre-rotation. Kaori is being over scored for a flutz with 3/4 pre-rotation. A 3A and quad are the least of her problems. Her bad technique being overlooked/ignored by the judges compared to better skaters is an issue.
@@user-or7ch8bk3othe user is talking about adam getting his name mispronounced, i think it reminds them of that one time when yuzuru got presented as a chinese skater
This competition was wilddd. I'm definitely very excited to see Ilia's skating skills develop, because he already has the jumps and showmanship down. And I want to see Adam continue to do well, as well as Yuma. The ladies definitely felt a lot more chaotic and unstable overall, which is surprising considering that's normally what the men's discipline is known for.
Guys guys GUYS... just giving some love to our Paola here. She never claimed to be an expert or professional, she's an enthusiastic fan who knows way more about the figure skating world than most folks. I'm here for the commentary and dish. Thanks for that Paola... I always look forward to sitting down with a cuppa and enjoying your stories.
@@lakehillier5765 jump with no artistry and no skating skills. Why not just have a jump competition? Similarly to what the Russians had? Figure skating without figures.
I think Illia is getting there. He still hasn't found who he is on the ice but am confident he will get there. I am liking that he is not going the route of the traditional figure skater and is exploring other movements. I just hope he dedicates more time to it because he still looks very rough on the ice with those movements.
I’m glad that Ilia seems to have taken the criticism he has received seriously. He’s improved and I’m glad he’s taking the initiative to refine his craft. I was a little disappointed with some of the ladies’ programs just because I was hoping for a little more energy, but the choreography/artistry was there and it was much appreciated!
in my opinion, ilia needs to work on his landings as well as his skating skills. when he lands the 4A it looks as if you dropped a nail on the ground and it landed perfectly on the tip and i think that if ilia had the skating skills and landings of shoma, THEN he would be unstoppable.
As much as I do miss the old generation and Yuzuru’s absence can definitely be felt, I have a lot of hope for Ilia even though he’s not the most artistic skater right now you can see he’s trying a lot harder. He’s so young too so he’ll definitely improve even more over the next couple of years. He honestly seems like a really sweet kid
The way people are taking about Ilia reminds me of Alexandra Trusova. Both skaters have/had quads and revolutionised the sport but overall they are lacking artistry
I feel like Ilia has significantly more potential than Trusov, as her programs always had relatively simplistic choreo and skating between jumps. In contrast, the composition of Ilia's current programs is a lot more complex than last season with difficult transitions into jumps and more intricate choreography throughout. Even though his skating and dance skills aren't as refined as many of his competitors, the layout of his programs demonstrates a commitment to improving his component scores that we never really saw from Trusova
@@urioriari34 Men don't "expire" women do. Look at all the "expired" south koreans. Young You, Haein lee are expired adult teens (18 and 19) and not even 25 yet. Yelim kim expired the hardest and getting worse at 20. Expired. The men do not expire at 17, 18, 19, 20 and beyond. Polina Edmuns of USA and Alyssa expired at 18 and 16 each. The men could never expire like the women do.
@@urioriari34 There's a reason why the women and men are seperate in this sport. Kaori the best woman internationally is weaker than the worst man. Alexandra Trusova the most powerful woman may be stronger than the weakest man but she is weaker than Ilia the most powerful man.
Some of you need to chill out idk why y’all have your undies in a twist over her calling ilia the goat. She obviously means when it comes to jumping because no one has done what he does. She also quite literally says his skating skills need work but he’s still young so he has time to improve. I don’t see how that’s “biased”. And y’all act like jumping a 4a is the end of the world and that figure skating is over. Enough with the dramatics. If you’re tired take a break from the sport I’m sure you’ll come back and appreciate the skills being presented (yes even the jumps)
This sport is not just about jumping, it doesn't make sense to call a jumper a goat. I think Ilia can deserve that title in a few years if he improves his skating skills. You can highlight Ilia's jumping skills without calling him the goat, that title is reserved for complete skaters with world records
@@stargazer8679 no one said the sport was only about jumping but it’s fair to call him the goat when it comes to that. I mean c’mon he’s literally called quad god. He’s doing things never done before. Also I think y’all are taking the “goat” title too literally it’s all in good fun and is lighthearted. And technically he did set a world record (at junior world championships I know) but it’s fair to assume as long as he keeps this up he’ll be able to do it as an adult. Would that then make him the “goat” in your eyes or will you still find an issue?
@@stargazer8679 This sport is not just about skating skills. You can't call an artist a GOAT if they can't also do the most difficult jumps in the world.
@katsuuuuuu8254 I think it is fine to consider Ilia a "GOAT" for his jumping technique and accomplishments, because regardless of his current abilities he has made history in that regard and that is a fact. It's not like all of the skaters that were considered GOATs or history makers in this sport were perfect on every merit and had no flaws whatsoever. I don't think it's fair necessarily to compare him to skaters who have senior world records as most of the skaters who reached GOAT status did not achieve that in two senior seasons. But he does have an achievement for a ratified 4A and that is something that is admirable. It doesn't mean that the other skaters who have world records are less important as many of them were highly influential and successful. I think that people are too quick to compare Ilia to other skaters and that's what causing these arguments. Realistically his skills are completely different from these other "GOAT" skaters and that's completely fine. That's just the reality of sport. We can be realistic about his skating skills while also acknowledging his accomplishments in jumping.
I love this competition but I was not too happy with! Kaori victory was perfect but that was it! I miss my beloved Korean skaters, no Haein and no Jun-Hwan was so sad!! I hope they recover for the worlds again! I miss Jun-Hwan, I barely saw him this season! And I wanted a Shoma or Adam victory! Illian totally deserved but I still wanted to Adam to get it, he was so perfect in France! I was believing in him! But I enjoy this Grand Prix a lot! I’m finally all in with Leona (her programs were show stoppers, waiting to go viral), Japan continues to make me happy, and apart from my Korean disappointments, it was great to keep me away from the only unhealthy and abusive relationship in my life: Russian figure skating! For the first time in a while I didn’t watched most of it! And I counting this as a victory! Lol
I am so so glad that Ilia changed his costumes into something much more fancy and glittery because that was the only thing I did not like about Nathan Chen. When Ilia first became famous, my first thought was that he’s Nathan the II due to the boring costume and the lots of quads. And genuinely the only thing I disliked about Nathan was how basic his costumes look, like a 90s arcade carpet, or black and white or just a sweatshirt. And now Ilia is not following in Nathan’s footsteps, he’s actually having good costumes. The short program red jacket is such a good costume, it is so fancy and has such showmanship, I love it.
@@deeangel6396 Ilia doesn't either because he is not the goat. He hasn't even made any world record scores. Saying that is insulting towards the real goats. I think he CAN became a goat in few years, if he keeps improving his skating skills. But right now, he is a jump skater, a goat is a complete package, master of all elements.
@@stargazer8679 its basically impossible to break world record scores when these same records were achieved by nathan on the basis of extreme hyper overscoring
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Is Ilia's 4A impressive? Yes. Is he a GOAT? No. Words have meaning and there needs to be A LOT done before he is even close to a GOAT, hell even a prince. He lacks maturity, which is normal considering he is a kid (who needs media training, as we have seen). Overhyping him will only cause what has happened one too many times - burning out, which could happen again on the Olympic stage and then everyone will go "ou what a shame". Let him cook. Let him actually develop an artistic style, a feel for music and well earn the words thrown at his feet since ISU is trying to keep relevancy.
4A is impossible for all humans except him. He is the GOAT of jumping. He can improve his dancing on ice easily, but everyone else will never improve their jumps if they are already past 17.
@savanahbabyyyy Skating skills are more than just "dancing on ice" if that were the case a discipline like ice dance would be significantly easier than all the other disciplines to break into but it is just as hard. Skating skills are more than just artistry. It's the control of your edges, your steps, your turns - it's how much precision you have while moving your blades across the ice. That can be taught, but that does mean it is not a difficult skill to master. I think it may be somewhat more difficult for him because he also has to focus on maintaining the difficulty and consistency of his jumps as well. That requires a lot of strength and stamina. I think it is possible for him if he strives for balance, but we can only wait and see. And people can most definitely improve their jumps past 17 - although it is obviously easier to improve jump technique when you are young it does not mean that it is impossible when you're older. If that were the case, Kurt Browning would not have been able to land the first quad in a competition - he was 5 years older than Ilia at 22. Midori Ito, who landed the first ever triple axel in a women's competition, was 19 years of age when she landed it. Elvis Stokjo not only landed the first quad-double jump combination at the age of 19 but even went on to improve and land a quad-triple combination at the age of 25. But according to your comment, these skaters would not have been able to improve their jumps past the age of 17. I think you may need to review skating history and check your facts.
Ok goat means greatest of ALL times. Do people actually think illia is at seventeen the best figure skater there ever was. Or “just” that his quads are insanely good but that it?
@@savanahbabyyyy this sport has a rulebook. And in that rulebook are written very detailed informations about how this sport is judged. One of it being that judges give the component score also called “artistry”.
@@Canev821 it is very impressive. I consider it on the level of midori ito landing triple axel as a first women in history level ov impressive. But that still did not make her the goat in publics opinion. Very similar to ilia
Avec admiration totale pour Ilia Malinin ! Ce champion du monde avait tout pour lui et est très bien entouré ! Extraordinaire sur la glace, naturel et simple, cool dans la vie à ce que j'ai pu entendre et voir ! Il possède un charisme, une technique, un envol défiant toute lois de la gravité. Extraordinaire ! Graine de champion devenu superstar ! Meilleurs vœux à Ilia, l'unique, qui l'a bien mérité : ) Ses programmes sont tous des réjouissances oscillant entre prouesses et performances. Médaille d'or pour lui à Montréal ! Une médaille d'or devrait aussi être attrbuée à l'artiste qui a su mettre bouts à bouts cette succession de mélodies à couper le souffle, que Ilia Malinin sublimait totalement : )) Bravo et merci : ))
I love that Kaori won but am still not pulled in by these programs. Its not what I expect from her. But i guess she wants to explore other music and styles and I won't be upset about that
Artistry comes second but is not as important as jumps. If you are an artist who falls like an idiot or has awful technique like shoma you are not the GOAT either.
It bothers me even more when commentators do it during broadcasts. It would definately fool new watchers but it's simply insulting to the actual legends of the sport.
@@Jeremy-wp4yh I don’t think it’s fooling new watchers - no one cares about the boy. No RUclips views, no queues to see him compete, no sell out shows. If he is so exceptional where are the fans? They can call him whatever they want but fact is he doesn’t have the magic, the charisma the quality that can not be taught. He will fade into obscurity soon.
This is a little rant comment. Okay, so... I hope I'm not the only one who's tired of figure skating lately. I kind of feel bad because... We have so many good skaters today, but... I haven't been able to enjoy the sport. It became a jumping competition for me, if you can jump these specific jumps well, congratulations you won... Yay... Sorry to bring this here, but I feel bad... Anyway, thanks for the video Paola.
I don't think Ilia is quite as unbeatable as people think, even when he skates consistently. Previously, Yuzu, Yuma, and Nathan have all scored higher than Ilia's GPF free skate with relatively simpler, 4-quad layouts. If Yuma is able to add the quad loop back in and skate cleanly, I think his PCS scores will start to rise, and both he and Adam can be legitimately competitive with Ilia, even without fully matching his jumping ability.
@@harryfranklin1263Exactly. Also, the dependence on jumps is dangerous for him. If Ilia falls on something that's not 4a in a big event (such as this one) I'm figuring that the judges won't give him a high tec->high components kind of score. I could see him missing the podium with just a slightly off-day
@@urioriari34Ilia has a high enough base value advantage that it's hard to imagine him fully off the podium (after all, he made some big errors in his 2023 Worlds FS and still had a technical score of 107, placing third), but a win at this season's worlds is definitely not guaranteed, especially since Adam is adding in the 4F to work on a 5 quad FS layout.
Paola! I have never really cared about figure skating (I’m Russian) but found myself watching hours of your content and enthralled. If you ever need help translating Russian to English, please let me know! I’d love to help :)
Quads are already worth too much, so much that as long as you don't fully fall, clean skaters without all your jumps can't beat you. It's truly crazy what the emphasis on athleticism has done to the sport. Not that it's all bad, just that it's had some insidious consequences that I don't enjoy.
@@kohlinoor Not sure about that. Adam already beat Ilia earlier this season with an easier technical layout, even though Ilia only made a couple minor mistakes. Furthermore, none of Ilia's 5-6 quad free skates this season have beat previous scores that Yuma, Yuzu, and Nathan have achieved with 4 quad layouts.
Ilia Malinin’s 4A is really impressive, but I don’t feel that “something” like with Nathan Chen, Jason Brown, Denis Vassilevs and Yuzuru Hanyu. He just don’t have it yet. Last year and a half of figure skating is honestly pretty boring because of new generation of skaters. I don’t hate them immediately, no. I just miss that something that hyped us all watching golden era of skating from 2010-2021. This is now just… jump competition only last spark of old gold class skaters are Shoma Uno, Yuma Kagiyama (kinda) and Adam Siao Him Fa. I will just emphasize that this is just my opinion.
It's become slang basically. A lot of people use it jokingly, too, so it's just a very common descriptor that people grab from the top of their heads when they want to call someone or something "really great"
Ilia's 4 Axel is good but sorry he's not a GOAT. His PCS is absolutely over scored. If you put all of his quads away he's a Senior skater with Junior skating skills, he can improve of course but he shouldn't be a GPF winner.
@@morgan1076 yeah, his spins, step and choreo sequences are way inferior even in comparison to the recent JGPF gold medalists in both Men's and Ladies and that's a fact.
He has one of the best techniques on jumps. A jump prodigy. He can always fix his skating but everyone else will find it impossible to fix jumps as an adult. If his PCS are lowered Shoma better get -3 and -4 on his poor technique jumps that shouldn't get positive GOE and will 100% always lose to Ilia when the jumps are scored as they should.
I ❤ Kaori's skating but was wondering with the Russians back at the Olympics with their quads, do you think she'll add quads to her program? The Russians, IMHO cannot beat Ilia or Shomo.
Ilia offers much more than jumps. Why don’t people talk about how a lot of his jumps have steps into them or difficult entries with little set up time? Anyone with eyes can see he doesn’t just skate from one jump to the next. And why do so many people feel compelled to qualify liking his skating by saying things like, “he has to work on his skating skills but his jumps are exciting.” In comparison, you rarely hear fans repeatedly saying equivalent things about other skaters, like “his jumps are average but…” or “he needs to stop telegraphing his jumps but…” Figure skating is such a complex sport, you can pick apart anyone. I’d rather appreciate the different things each skater brings to the ice. I also think it hurts the sport to have fans acting like people who don’t have the same preferences as them “need to learn what figure skating is.” This mentality will indeed kill the sport and push new fans away.
On the contrary, I think the appreciation for the complexity of Figure Skating as a sport leads one to learning about the politics of skating federations. Sadly, we do not live in the ideal world where every skater can bring what they have to the ice and be scored fairly. We have seen, depending on coach, or national federation, scores are wildly manipulated. We've seen this destroy the hope in so many skaters after good performances at the kiss and cry. When the game is rigged in someone's favour it's not a fair game - and that's what's destroying the sport, not the fans who are aware of the oftentimes blatant discrimination.
@@radarmua2316 These are separate issues that only sometimes overlap. Both judges and fans have biases. I think most people would agree, for example, that skaters from small feds deserve more support and that everyone should be judged fairly (although of course some fans have very different perspectives on what constitutes fair judging). You can believe reform is needed and also believe that some of the fans are hurting the sport.
I don't know, I personally hear people give criticism about other skaters all the time - you may hear people often talk about Sakamoto's flutz or how she pre-rotates despite having big jumps and being fast, mention Levito and you'll hear somehow talk about how scary her jump technique is, Uno and his...interesting flip jumps, Cha's telegraphed 3As that sends everyone into a prayer circle before he jumps it, go to a post about any women's skater from Sambo 70 (Eteri Tutberidtze's team - Trusova, Kostornia, Valieva, Scherbochova, etc) and you will definitely see endless criticism about their jumps - I think even Paola has videos that talk about critiques of their jump technique. I think it all just depends on what groups of people you're talking to. Because all of these things I just mentioned have been brought up by people who were wholeheartedly fans of those skaters. I think the reason that people will often point out Malinin's skating skills is because he's being rewarded for a level of ability that is not quite there (although he's not the only to deal with this issue and won't be the last). He should not be within a few points of skaters like Uno when it comes to PCS yet he very consistently is. Obviously this isn't his fault and he shouldn't be blamed for it, but if his PCS scores say that he is near the level of these skaters when he very clearly isn't people are probably going to point it out. But like I said, he's not the only skater who is graded too high in PCS, so people shouldn't single him out in that regard. Overall I think people do focus on criticizing him too much but other skaters have faced similar treatment from fans as well. He is not the first and probably will not be the last.
@@JS-rb4kc I totally get what you’re saying, but I still think some fan behavior is problematic and hurts the sport. I have seen the criticisms you mentioned and think it is ok to point things out, but some skaters are bashed more than others and it gets excessive. For example, I’m sure Uno and his team are well aware of the criticism of his flip, that Cha is working on his 3A entry, and that Adam is working on getting more flow on his landings. I don’t need to hear these things over and over and neither do the skaters or the judges. The 3 skaters I just mentioned are all fantastic and know where they can improve. Same with ilia. But with ilia, I hear more comments that are personal, general, and needlessly mean. People saying he looks like a giraffe (and much worse), that he has zero skating skills (exaggeration much?) or even that they hope he gets injured. That is bullying, not criticism. And so much of it is subjective. You could argue his tech score should be higher. I saw him in person and his jumps were breathtakingly beautiful, his spins were fast and centered, and he showed more flexibility than many of the skaters. Some fans also talk about the judging as if their opinion is fact and it is their job to correct the judges. Opinions on things like choreography and performance vary. GOE is also complicated and subject to some interpretation. How does the online negativity hurt the sport? I know teens who were excited about a skater after watching them, then went to social media, saw a bunch of negative comments, and questioned their initial perception. New fan lost. I also have a friend who pulled her young talented daughter out of skating. She had various reasons for doing this, but I remember her saying, what parent would want their child to be a skater after seeing the women’s event at the Olympics or seeing all the negative comments directed at young skaters on social media? I think that’s a good question. My long comment here isn’t going to change anything. But I do love the sport and hate to see it losing popularity. And I think all the hard-working skaters deserve an abundance of respect and support, along with a healthy dose of constructive criticism.
@@FanyusAnonymous A coach from the French fed was accused of se*ual abuse of a minor, and Kevin and his coach were in support of the man who sent d*ck pics to a child. It's a horribly disgusting situation.
I'm honestly kind of surprised that people are surprised and haven't heard about it. For those who didn't know, Silvia Fontana and her spouse John Zimmerman (although he doesn't appear at comps, except for that one time earlier this season) are Kevin's coaches. John Zimmerman was suspended for 2 years by the ISU previously for the "abuse of process, emotional misconduct, and failure to report sexual abuse of a 13 year old he was coaching." There are allegations that both of them actually threatened this young person in order to keep them from reporting it as well. People are upset because Kevin knows about this (how can he not) but decided to stay with them anyway. It's a really bad look even if he doesn't mean to be excusing what he's excusing.
The Figure Skating ISU was dying until a fresh new face gave us some encouraging proof of a Jump that was the most difficult to land clean. Illia helped energised this sport, returning many hearts to watch again and again. Its not just textbook its respect. llia is that goat because most cannot be under that much pressure and improve at the same time. The negative talkers will always be non- accomplished because they wish they obtain that level of mastery that young.
The problem is that figure skating isn't just based on jumps. So calling him the goat is an insult to nathan Chen and yuzuru hanyu. Mastering skating skills in combination with technical elements and artistry is what makes a GOAT.
Dying? Honey, the fact that Ilia is being touted by the ISU is evidence that it is indeed dead and buried. lol you must have missed the funeral. Figure Skating is not just about jumps? What happens in between the jumps and the skater's connection to the music is also important. The fact that you think landing a jump equals mastery of Figure Skating is hilarious. The sport is not called Figure Jumping, and there is an artistic element to this sport's scoring. "The negative talkers" lol you mean fans of a sport? You're telling me no fans of any sport can discuss athletes unless they too are equally accomplished? Like???
@@Jeremy-wp4yh Please you alway so negative. The people enjoy it his artistry and athleticism we cheer and leave very happy it's what the people want.
Let's be honest if he did not have that one jump that the press and the media hype up he would not even be on the podium he is still young and needs a lot of improvement and experience overall shoma and Yuma are the full package
I DO NOT agree with your heading..Ilia GOAT.Sorry the 4A does not make him the GOAT. He simply does not have the full package like Yuzuru. He will never be the GOAT.never ever
I’m so over people crying that Ilia doesn’t have the full package… guys, the sport is dying. Things need to change. Quads and technical elements are the future. Otherwise, this sport will die. Embrace the challenge
Calm down and take a second to see that she clearly meant that Ilia was GOAT in jumping. She has literally stated that his skating skills weren’t the best. 😑
Ilia not a goat, he still has a loot to work on, his skating skills are very poor, compared to other skaters , and his body posture lask a loot, this is not an only jumping sport, its like it was with sambo70 women, when they tried ti make it only a jumping performance and less on all of the figure skating side.
Malinin is not a crown prince of.any kind. He never knew about such a thing as a 4A jump. He learned it from Yuzuru. By luck he succeeded. Malinin will never ever be the quality of Yuzuru. People can differ from me. Go ahead
Just gonna go out on a limb and say that no one lands a 4A out of "luck." It comes from talent, excellent technique, and insane amounts of hard work. As Ilia has stated, Yuzu was a big influence for him in learning the 4A, but Yuzu wasn't the first to attempt it in competition, so the idea that "he never knew about such a thing" before Yuzu is entirely unfounded.
Saying that Malinin learned 4A by luck shows that you’re simply trying to bring him down because he lacks some artistry. It’s all 100% skill. Also, why are you bringing up Yuzuru in a video that doesn’t mention him at all? Fanyus seriously using Yuzuru to hate on other athletes because y’all are crying about artistry and presentation in a SPORT. 😑
Go cry about it, Fanyu. 😂 Can’t even understand that this term was used as a light way to express that Ilia is super great because he’s doing things that no one’s ever done before.
Ilia is the GOAT for jumps. Tiny Shoma's "artistry" isn't for everyone's tastes and his poor awful jump technique should have him near the very bottom. Should score 0's and -1's for those bad jump take offs. Rion is horrible and falls way too much. She usually has disaster skaters and is trying to cheat to the top with a poor 4T but any advantage of the 4T is worthless since she can't even land proper triples consistently.
As I said before this was recorded before the last video I uploaded. But i hope you still guys enjoy! Note: I agree that ilia is not the full package, as his skating leaves a lot to be desired, and is why I wish Shoma Uno had skated clean enough to win. But I am still excited about Ilia Malinin's win as it will only motivate him to grow and become a better skater
I will always enjoy!!
Kevin is not good mentally ! I watched his free program for the french nationals and it was heartbreaking !
@@alienordaumas6198 I saw the results and didn’t have the courage to watch, I know I was gonna cry! I love Kevin and when he implode, it breaks my heart! I can’t see that!
We need a video of you reacting to some controversial figure skating opinions or another QnA.
@@Jeremy-wp4yhJudging from the feisty comment section, I think she's the one GIVING the controversial opinions here😂
I really hate how kaori's talents are being diminished because she doesn't do a 3A or quad. "They" forget how much strength it takes to have fabulous SS and centered spins and a long running edge out of a jump. Kaori isn't even my fave, but to see her belittled is very sad.
Kaori's speed and ice coverage are unmatched, so disappointed to see the disrespect.
Couldn't agree more, and I've noticed the judges rarely give her the full GOE score she deserves on that double axel too! NO-ONE does a 2A like her. Not even close!!
Her talent is diminished due to not being called on her flutz and 3/4 pre-rotation. Korea's Chaeyon Kim has a true clear outside edge lutz with minimal pre-rotation. Kaori is being over scored for a flutz with 3/4 pre-rotation. A 3A and quad are the least of her problems. Her bad technique being overlooked/ignored by the judges compared to better skaters is an issue.
_"Adam si hu him fa"_ it's giving _"Yuzuru Hanyu from China"_
ジャンプ重視のスタイルはユヅルではなくネイサン・チェンよりに感じます。
@@user-or7ch8bk3othe user is talking about adam getting his name mispronounced, i think it reminds them of that one time when yuzuru got presented as a chinese skater
This competition was wilddd. I'm definitely very excited to see Ilia's skating skills develop, because he already has the jumps and showmanship down. And I want to see Adam continue to do well, as well as Yuma. The ladies definitely felt a lot more chaotic and unstable overall, which is surprising considering that's normally what the men's discipline is known for.
Guys guys GUYS... just giving some love to our Paola here. She never claimed to be an expert or professional, she's an enthusiastic fan who knows way more about the figure skating world than most folks. I'm here for the commentary and dish. Thanks for that Paola... I always look forward to sitting down with a cuppa and enjoying your stories.
I miss the old top figure skaters because they were truly the full package. Now it's a jump competition.
And I am very happy cause it feels like a real sport now not “ make judges happy with no improvements but same old stuff “
@@lakehillier5765 jump with no artistry and no skating skills. Why not just have a jump competition? Similarly to what the Russians had? Figure skating without figures.
I think Illia is getting there. He still hasn't found who he is on the ice but am confident he will get there. I am liking that he is not going the route of the traditional figure skater and is exploring other movements. I just hope he dedicates more time to it because he still looks very rough on the ice with those movements.
@@Jeremy-wp4yh This sport has always been about jumps that's why it's an Olymic event...Facts.
@@deeangel6396 are you simply going to ignore the programme component scores?
I love Isabeau's new dress tbh. It really shows off her jumps and spins. I kinda found her old dress frumpy
Hey llamas. Merry Christmas in case I don't see you in live chats soon 😅
@Jeremy-wp4yh Merry Christmas!
I’m glad that Ilia seems to have taken the criticism he has received seriously. He’s improved and I’m glad he’s taking the initiative to refine his craft. I was a little disappointed with some of the ladies’ programs just because I was hoping for a little more energy, but the choreography/artistry was there and it was much appreciated!
in my opinion, ilia needs to work on his landings as well as his skating skills. when he lands the 4A it looks as if you dropped a nail on the ground and it landed perfectly on the tip and i think that if ilia had the skating skills and landings of shoma, THEN he would be unstoppable.
I'm so so proud of Yuma and can't wait to see what the next few years hold for him!
As much as I do miss the old generation and Yuzuru’s absence can definitely be felt, I have a lot of hope for Ilia even though he’s not the most artistic skater right now you can see he’s trying a lot harder. He’s so young too so he’ll definitely improve even more over the next couple of years. He honestly seems like a really sweet kid
The way people are taking about Ilia reminds me of Alexandra Trusova. Both skaters have/had quads and revolutionised the sport but overall they are lacking artistry
I feel like Ilia has significantly more potential than Trusov, as her programs always had relatively simplistic choreo and skating between jumps. In contrast, the composition of Ilia's current programs is a lot more complex than last season with difficult transitions into jumps and more intricate choreography throughout. Even though his skating and dance skills aren't as refined as many of his competitors, the layout of his programs demonstrates a commitment to improving his component scores that we never really saw from Trusova
Also Ilia doesn't have the same "expiration date," fortunately. He has time on his side
Since Ilia is a man he will always have better jumps than the best woman.
@@urioriari34 Men don't "expire" women do. Look at all the "expired" south koreans. Young You, Haein lee are expired adult teens (18 and 19) and not even 25 yet. Yelim kim expired the hardest and getting worse at 20. Expired. The men do not expire at 17, 18, 19, 20 and beyond. Polina Edmuns of USA and Alyssa expired at 18 and 16 each. The men could never expire like the women do.
@@urioriari34 There's a reason why the women and men are seperate in this sport. Kaori the best woman internationally is weaker than the worst man. Alexandra Trusova the most powerful woman may be stronger than the weakest man but she is weaker than Ilia the most powerful man.
ilia also landed a quad loop for the first time in comp, making him the first skater to have landed all types of quads in competition!
Some of you need to chill out idk why y’all have your undies in a twist over her calling ilia the goat. She obviously means when it comes to jumping because no one has done what he does. She also quite literally says his skating skills need work but he’s still young so he has time to improve. I don’t see how that’s “biased”. And y’all act like jumping a 4a is the end of the world and that figure skating is over. Enough with the dramatics. If you’re tired take a break from the sport I’m sure you’ll come back and appreciate the skills being presented (yes even the jumps)
This sport is not just about jumping, it doesn't make sense to call a jumper a goat. I think Ilia can deserve that title in a few years if he improves his skating skills. You can highlight Ilia's jumping skills without calling him the goat, that title is reserved for complete skaters with world records
@@stargazer8679 no one said the sport was only about jumping but it’s fair to call him the goat when it comes to that. I mean c’mon he’s literally called quad god. He’s doing things never done before. Also I think y’all are taking the “goat” title too literally it’s all in good fun and is lighthearted. And technically he did set a world record (at junior world championships I know) but it’s fair to assume as long as he keeps this up he’ll be able to do it as an adult. Would that then make him the “goat” in your eyes or will you still find an issue?
@@stargazer8679 This sport is not just about skating skills. You can't call an artist a GOAT if they can't also do the most difficult jumps in the world.
@katsuuuuuu8254 I think it is fine to consider Ilia a "GOAT" for his jumping technique and accomplishments, because regardless of his current abilities he has made history in that regard and that is a fact. It's not like all of the skaters that were considered GOATs or history makers in this sport were perfect on every merit and had no flaws whatsoever. I don't think it's fair necessarily to compare him to skaters who have senior world records as most of the skaters who reached GOAT status did not achieve that in two senior seasons. But he does have an achievement for a ratified 4A and that is something that is admirable.
It doesn't mean that the other skaters who have world records are less important as many of them were highly influential and successful. I think that people are too quick to compare Ilia to other skaters and that's what causing these arguments. Realistically his skills are completely different from these other "GOAT" skaters and that's completely fine. That's just the reality of sport. We can be realistic about his skating skills while also acknowledging his accomplishments in jumping.
I love this competition but I was not too happy with! Kaori victory was perfect but that was it! I miss my beloved Korean skaters, no Haein and no Jun-Hwan was so sad!! I hope they recover for the worlds again! I miss Jun-Hwan, I barely saw him this season! And I wanted a Shoma or Adam victory! Illian totally deserved but I still wanted to Adam to get it, he was so perfect in France! I was believing in him! But I enjoy this Grand Prix a lot! I’m finally all in with Leona (her programs were show stoppers, waiting to go viral), Japan continues to make me happy, and apart from my Korean disappointments, it was great to keep me away from the only unhealthy and abusive relationship in my life: Russian figure skating! For the first time in a while I didn’t watched most of it! And I counting this as a victory! Lol
The Koreans have become dirt in seniors this season....
I personally don’t enjoy watching Ilia skate but I think his artistic elements will come, the foundations are all there.
I am so so glad that Ilia changed his costumes into something much more fancy and glittery because that was the only thing I did not like about Nathan Chen. When Ilia first became famous, my first thought was that he’s Nathan the II due to the boring costume and the lots of quads. And genuinely the only thing I disliked about Nathan was how basic his costumes look, like a 90s arcade carpet, or black and white or just a sweatshirt. And now Ilia is not following in Nathan’s footsteps, he’s actually having good costumes. The short program red jacket is such a good costume, it is so fancy and has such showmanship, I love it.
Girrllll, the season ain't over yet.😂Kevin is going to Euros. And there's still 4CC and Worlds to look forward to.
Kevin is a damn mess
his 4A is undoubtedly impressive ... but sorry, calling ilia a GOAT simply just isn't it
Your Jealous and you do not know the sacrifices a Goat have to go thew.
@@deeangel6396unfortunately he does nothing for me at all.
@@deeangel6396 Ilia doesn't either because he is not the goat. He hasn't even made any world record scores. Saying that is insulting towards the real goats. I think he CAN became a goat in few years, if he keeps improving his skating skills. But right now, he is a jump skater, a goat is a complete package, master of all elements.
I think it’s more fair to say his on his way to become the goat. Not there yet but definitely has the potential
@@stargazer8679 its basically impossible to break world record scores when these same records were achieved by nathan on the basis of extreme hyper overscoring
Another Paola video, happy Christmas to us!!! Thank you ❤❤❤❤ I would love to hear your take on Russian Nationals that just happened, but until then, happy holidays!!
Is Ilia's 4A impressive? Yes.
Is he a GOAT? No.
Words have meaning and there needs to be A LOT done before he is even close to a GOAT, hell even a prince. He lacks maturity, which is normal considering he is a kid (who needs media training, as we have seen). Overhyping him will only cause what has happened one too many times - burning out, which could happen again on the Olympic stage and then everyone will go "ou what a shame". Let him cook. Let him actually develop an artistic style, a feel for music and well earn the words thrown at his feet since ISU is trying to keep relevancy.
Definitely not GOAT status. YET. He can jump, but he's not the full package yet. He's improving a lot though, which I'm happy to see!
Words have meaning but when words become common usage/a trend to say they lose their original impact.
Think of what happened to the word "literally"
4A is impossible for all humans except him. He is the GOAT of jumping. He can improve his dancing on ice easily, but everyone else will never improve their jumps if they are already past 17.
????????????? who are YOU lmao
@savanahbabyyyy Skating skills are more than just "dancing on ice" if that were the case a discipline like ice dance would be significantly easier than all the other disciplines to break into but it is just as hard. Skating skills are more than just artistry. It's the control of your edges, your steps, your turns - it's how much precision you have while moving your blades across the ice. That can be taught, but that does mean it is not a difficult skill to master. I think it may be somewhat more difficult for him because he also has to focus on maintaining the difficulty and consistency of his jumps as well. That requires a lot of strength and stamina. I think it is possible for him if he strives for balance, but we can only wait and see.
And people can most definitely improve their jumps past 17 - although it is obviously easier to improve jump technique when you are young it does not mean that it is impossible when you're older. If that were the case, Kurt Browning would not have been able to land the first quad in a competition - he was 5 years older than Ilia at 22. Midori Ito, who landed the first ever triple axel in a women's competition, was 19 years of age when she landed it. Elvis Stokjo not only landed the first quad-double jump combination at the age of 19 but even went on to improve and land a quad-triple combination at the age of 25. But according to your comment, these skaters would not have been able to improve their jumps past the age of 17. I think you may need to review skating history and check your facts.
Ok goat means greatest of ALL times. Do people actually think illia is at seventeen the best figure skater there ever was. Or “just” that his quads are insanely good but that it?
The first to land a quad axel is very impressive I don’t why people are so dismissive of him
This sport is based on jumps. It is a jumping sport.
yes he is the goat cry about it
@@savanahbabyyyy this sport has a rulebook. And in that rulebook are written very detailed informations about how this sport is judged. One of it being that judges give the component score also called “artistry”.
@@Canev821 it is very impressive. I consider it on the level of midori ito landing triple axel as a first women in history level ov impressive. But that still did not make her the goat in publics opinion. Very similar to ilia
Avec admiration totale pour Ilia Malinin ! Ce champion du monde avait tout pour lui et est très bien entouré ! Extraordinaire sur la glace, naturel et simple, cool dans la vie à ce que j'ai pu entendre et voir ! Il possède un charisme, une technique, un envol défiant toute lois de la gravité. Extraordinaire ! Graine de champion devenu superstar ! Meilleurs vœux à Ilia, l'unique, qui l'a bien mérité : ) Ses programmes sont tous des réjouissances oscillant entre prouesses et performances.
Médaille d'or pour lui à Montréal ! Une médaille d'or devrait aussi être attrbuée à l'artiste qui a su mettre bouts à bouts cette succession de mélodies à couper le souffle, que Ilia Malinin sublimait totalement : )) Bravo et merci : ))
I love that Kaori won but am still not pulled in by these programs. Its not what I expect from her. But i guess she wants to explore other music and styles and I won't be upset about that
Artistry comes second but is not as important as jumps. If you are an artist who falls like an idiot or has awful technique like shoma you are not the GOAT either.
Kevin in the final in France was HARD TO WATCH. It was hard to feel bad for him because he skated doing nothing for 30seconds
He is not emotionally stable
he needs to take a break imo. and change the damn bolero !
@@townsongs That bolero is awful!
GOAT? Ilia Malinin??? Do words just not have meaning anymore???
It bothers me even more when commentators do it during broadcasts. It would definately fool new watchers but it's simply insulting to the actual legends of the sport.
@@Jeremy-wp4yhsame. Yuzuru Hanyu remains the goat, he is the most complete figure skater of all times, the master of all elements in figure skating
@@Jeremy-wp4yhI don't think Yuzu's sitting at home crying about it, tbh. He knows who he is
Who else can jump 4A? The only person in the world doing the hardest jump in the world is GOAT. No one else in the world can do it.
@@Jeremy-wp4yh I don’t think it’s fooling new watchers - no one cares about the boy. No RUclips views, no queues to see him compete, no sell out shows. If he is so exceptional where are the fans? They can call him whatever they want but fact is he doesn’t have the magic, the charisma the quality that can not be taught. He will fade into obscurity soon.
He won the jumping contest
This is a little rant comment. Okay, so... I hope I'm not the only one who's tired of figure skating lately. I kind of feel bad because... We have so many good skaters today, but... I haven't been able to enjoy the sport. It became a jumping competition for me, if you can jump these specific jumps well, congratulations you won... Yay...
Sorry to bring this here, but I feel bad... Anyway, thanks for the video Paola.
Adam Siao Him Fa's programs this season have been phenomenal. His technical content is very high, AND he's also done a lot of work on his artistry.
Yes true. Adam is truly a talented skater.
I don't think Ilia is quite as unbeatable as people think, even when he skates consistently. Previously, Yuzu, Yuma, and Nathan have all scored higher than Ilia's GPF free skate with relatively simpler, 4-quad layouts. If Yuma is able to add the quad loop back in and skate cleanly, I think his PCS scores will start to rise, and both he and Adam can be legitimately competitive with Ilia, even without fully matching his jumping ability.
@@harryfranklin1263Exactly. Also, the dependence on jumps is dangerous for him. If Ilia falls on something that's not 4a in a big event (such as this one) I'm figuring that the judges won't give him a high tec->high components kind of score. I could see him missing the podium with just a slightly off-day
@@urioriari34Ilia has a high enough base value advantage that it's hard to imagine him fully off the podium (after all, he made some big errors in his 2023 Worlds FS and still had a technical score of 107, placing third), but a win at this season's worlds is definitely not guaranteed, especially since Adam is adding in the 4F to work on a 5 quad FS layout.
The lady's field is really lacking right now especially compared to the men 😕
Paola! I have never really cared about figure skating (I’m Russian) but found myself watching hours of your content and enthralled. If you ever need help translating Russian to English, please let me know! I’d love to help :)
So happy for Ilia! He made history with that 4A in the short program, it’s a shame that it’s not worth more points 😞
Quads are already worth too much, so much that as long as you don't fully fall, clean skaters without all your jumps can't beat you. It's truly crazy what the emphasis on athleticism has done to the sport. Not that it's all bad, just that it's had some insidious consequences that I don't enjoy.
@@kohlinoor Not sure about that. Adam already beat Ilia earlier this season with an easier technical layout, even though Ilia only made a couple minor mistakes. Furthermore, none of Ilia's 5-6 quad free skates this season have beat previous scores that Yuma, Yuzu, and Nathan have achieved with 4 quad layouts.
In my opinion Yuzuru Hanyu is the goat!
No
Ilia Malinin’s 4A is really impressive, but I don’t feel that “something” like with Nathan Chen, Jason Brown, Denis Vassilevs and Yuzuru Hanyu. He just don’t have it yet. Last year and a half of figure skating is honestly pretty boring because of new generation of skaters. I don’t hate them immediately, no. I just miss that something that hyped us all watching golden era of skating from 2010-2021. This is now just… jump competition only last spark of old gold class skaters are Shoma Uno, Yuma Kagiyama (kinda) and Adam Siao Him Fa. I will just emphasize that this is just my opinion.
how is he the goat? no olympic or worlds no Junior GPF, I mean the term is so casualy used that the meaning is getting lost
It's become slang basically. A lot of people use it jokingly, too, so it's just a very common descriptor that people grab from the top of their heads when they want to call someone or something "really great"
The only human being capable of jumping the hardest jump in the entire world is a GOAT.
@@savanahbabyyyyjust say u want him
@@Daydreamingofmoney Ew. That's disgusting. He is a little boy. Do you want little boys for you to say something like this about this child?
Ilia's 4 Axel is good but sorry he's not a GOAT. His PCS is absolutely over scored. If you put all of his quads away he's a Senior skater with Junior skating skills, he can improve of course but he shouldn't be a GPF winner.
Yeah if you take away his skills… he has less skills
@@morgan1076 yeah, his spins, step and choreo sequences are way inferior even in comparison to the recent JGPF gold medalists in both Men's and Ladies and that's a fact.
He has one of the best techniques on jumps. A jump prodigy. He can always fix his skating but everyone else will find it impossible to fix jumps as an adult. If his PCS are lowered Shoma better get -3 and -4 on his poor technique jumps that shouldn't get positive GOE and will 100% always lose to Ilia when the jumps are scored as they should.
I ❤ Kaori's skating but was wondering with the Russians back at the Olympics with their quads, do you think she'll add quads to her program? The Russians, IMHO cannot beat Ilia or Shomo.
Wait, they're letting the Russians compete, even with the war going on and the drugs cheating?!!
Kaori will never land quads or triple axel. Hana Yoshida is Japan's main hope once she's consistent not Kaori
Ehhhh, not so fast.
Ilia's on a good path, and I like him, but Hanyu's the GOAT until it's proven otherwise.
I’m imagining you doing the hand dance. Very 🥰 cute
Do we know what GOAT means... THE greatest of all time, meaning there is only one. Ilia is not that one😭😭
yes i know, my comment was in support of Yuzu lol@Smooth-GOAT
@Smooth-GOAT ahhh i see. well thank you :)
@Smooth-GOATsi🎉😊
Paola La, can you please do a review on the Junior Grand Prix Final. I really do think their was so much to talk about their.
She won't. They bullied her on twitter for not knowing what she's talking about and now she's not posting competition content anymore.
Ilia offers much more than jumps. Why don’t people talk about how a lot of his jumps have steps into them or difficult entries with little set up time? Anyone with eyes can see he doesn’t just skate from one jump to the next. And why do so many people feel compelled to qualify liking his skating by saying things like, “he has to work on his skating skills but his jumps are exciting.” In comparison, you rarely hear fans repeatedly saying equivalent things about other skaters, like “his jumps are average but…” or “he needs to stop telegraphing his jumps but…” Figure skating is such a complex sport, you can pick apart anyone. I’d rather appreciate the different things each skater brings to the ice. I also think it hurts the sport to have fans acting like people who don’t have the same preferences as them “need to learn what figure skating is.” This mentality will indeed kill the sport and push new fans away.
On the contrary, I think the appreciation for the complexity of Figure Skating as a sport leads one to learning about the politics of skating federations. Sadly, we do not live in the ideal world where every skater can bring what they have to the ice and be scored fairly. We have seen, depending on coach, or national federation, scores are wildly manipulated. We've seen this destroy the hope in so many skaters after good performances at the kiss and cry. When the game is rigged in someone's favour it's not a fair game - and that's what's destroying the sport, not the fans who are aware of the oftentimes blatant discrimination.
@@radarmua2316 These are separate issues that only sometimes overlap. Both judges and fans have biases. I think most people would agree, for example, that skaters from small feds deserve more support and that everyone should be judged fairly (although of course some fans have very different perspectives on what constitutes fair judging). You can believe reform is needed and also believe that some of the fans are hurting the sport.
I agree. The negative comments get old.
I don't know, I personally hear people give criticism about other skaters all the time - you may hear people often talk about Sakamoto's flutz or how she pre-rotates despite having big jumps and being fast, mention Levito and you'll hear somehow talk about how scary her jump technique is, Uno and his...interesting flip jumps, Cha's telegraphed 3As that sends everyone into a prayer circle before he jumps it, go to a post about any women's skater from Sambo 70 (Eteri Tutberidtze's team - Trusova, Kostornia, Valieva, Scherbochova, etc) and you will definitely see endless criticism about their jumps - I think even Paola has videos that talk about critiques of their jump technique.
I think it all just depends on what groups of people you're talking to. Because all of these things I just mentioned have been brought up by people who were wholeheartedly fans of those skaters.
I think the reason that people will often point out Malinin's skating skills is because he's being rewarded for a level of ability that is not quite there (although he's not the only to deal with this issue and won't be the last). He should not be within a few points of skaters like Uno when it comes to PCS yet he very consistently is. Obviously this isn't his fault and he shouldn't be blamed for it, but if his PCS scores say that he is near the level of these skaters when he very clearly isn't people are probably going to point it out. But like I said, he's not the only skater who is graded too high in PCS, so people shouldn't single him out in that regard.
Overall I think people do focus on criticizing him too much but other skaters have faced similar treatment from fans as well. He is not the first and probably will not be the last.
@@JS-rb4kc I totally get what you’re saying, but I still think some fan behavior is problematic and hurts the sport. I have seen the criticisms you mentioned and think it is ok to point things out, but some skaters are bashed more than others and it gets excessive. For example, I’m sure Uno and his team are well aware of the criticism of his flip, that Cha is working on his 3A entry, and that Adam is working on getting more flow on his landings. I don’t need to hear these things over and over and neither do the skaters or the judges. The 3 skaters I just mentioned are all fantastic and know where they can improve. Same with ilia. But with ilia, I hear more comments that are personal, general, and needlessly mean. People saying he looks like a giraffe (and much worse), that he has zero skating skills (exaggeration much?) or even that they hope he gets injured. That is bullying, not criticism. And so much of it is subjective. You could argue his tech score should be higher. I saw him in person and his jumps were breathtakingly beautiful, his spins were fast and centered, and he showed more flexibility than many of the skaters. Some fans also talk about the judging as if their opinion is fact and it is their job to correct the judges. Opinions on things like choreography and performance vary. GOE is also complicated and subject to some interpretation.
How does the online negativity hurt the sport? I know teens who were excited about a skater after watching them, then went to social media, saw a bunch of negative comments, and questioned their initial perception. New fan lost. I also have a friend who pulled her young talented daughter out of skating. She had various reasons for doing this, but I remember her saying, what parent would want their child to be a skater after seeing the women’s event at the Olympics or seeing all the negative comments directed at young skaters on social media? I think that’s a good question.
My long comment here isn’t going to change anything. But I do love the sport and hate to see it losing popularity. And I think all the hard-working skaters deserve an abundance of respect and support, along with a healthy dose of constructive criticism.
ppl have such weird hate for ilia they go crazy everytime he is complimented 💀
ILIA MF MALININ everybody
Yes
Your videos are great. They are really holding me over until vanderpump rules' new season😅
idk if you're aware but kevin is literally no one's favorite underdog anymore, he's an abuse apologist
I don't know much about Kevin. Could you explain what you mean when you call him an abuse apologist?
@@FanyusAnonymous A coach from the French fed was accused of se*ual abuse of a minor, and Kevin and his coach were in support of the man who sent d*ck pics to a child. It's a horribly disgusting situation.
What do you mean??!
Where’d you get that from?! That sounds surprising
I'm honestly kind of surprised that people are surprised and haven't heard about it.
For those who didn't know, Silvia Fontana and her spouse John Zimmerman (although he doesn't appear at comps, except for that one time earlier this season) are Kevin's coaches.
John Zimmerman was suspended for 2 years by the ISU previously for the "abuse of process, emotional misconduct, and failure to report sexual abuse of a 13 year old he was coaching." There are allegations that both of them actually threatened this young person in order to keep them from reporting it as well.
People are upset because Kevin knows about this (how can he not) but decided to stay with them anyway. It's a really bad look even if he doesn't mean to be excusing what he's excusing.
I like Levito but she looks like she’s skating in slow motion sometimes lol
that thumbnail is infuriating, ngl 😂
Evgenia reacted to Tutberidze interview
The Figure Skating ISU was dying until a fresh new face gave us some encouraging proof of a Jump that was the most difficult to land clean. Illia helped energised this sport, returning many hearts to watch again and again. Its not just textbook its respect. llia is that goat because most cannot be under that much pressure and improve at the same time. The negative talkers will always be non- accomplished because they wish they obtain that level of mastery that young.
The problem is that figure skating isn't just based on jumps. So calling him the goat is an insult to nathan Chen and yuzuru hanyu. Mastering skating skills in combination with technical elements and artistry is what makes a GOAT.
Dying? Honey, the fact that Ilia is being touted by the ISU is evidence that it is indeed dead and buried. lol you must have missed the funeral. Figure Skating is not just about jumps? What happens in between the jumps and the skater's connection to the music is also important. The fact that you think landing a jump equals mastery of Figure Skating is hilarious. The sport is not called Figure Jumping, and there is an artistic element to this sport's scoring. "The negative talkers" lol you mean fans of a sport? You're telling me no fans of any sport can discuss athletes unless they too are equally accomplished? Like???
@@Jeremy-wp4yh Please you alway so negative. The people enjoy it his artistry and athleticism we cheer and leave very happy it's what the people want.
@@radarmua2316 You so miserable because the people want Illia, yes we the people leave very happy.
@@deeangel6396 you are allowed to have a favourite skater, but this doesn't change objective truth.
Valeriy and Sacha are now skating together
Let's be honest if he did not have that one jump that the press and the media hype up he would not even be on the podium he is still young and needs a lot of improvement and experience overall shoma and Yuma are the full package
If he’s representing Chinese or Russian , they would call him out for doping
Shoma Uno so much better
Not with his terrible jumps deserving of negative GOE.
Can you maybe make a timeline of what happened when and with whom?
Eteri girls are missed. There I said it
😂 which Eteri girl is your fave? 🚗
Valeiry went to plushanko got teamed up with some girl than they just broke up
Ilia is nowhere near being the GOAT. Greatest jumper? Sure, but GOAT? lol
the russians will be allowed at Olympics?
I DO NOT agree with your heading..Ilia GOAT.Sorry the 4A does not make him the GOAT. He simply does not have the full package like Yuzuru. He will never be the GOAT.never ever
Where did Isabeau place?
Isabeau placed in 5th.
In the gutter. She failed
I’m so over people crying that Ilia doesn’t have the full package… guys, the sport is dying. Things need to change. Quads and technical elements are the future. Otherwise, this sport will die. Embrace the challenge
Waiting in the Russian Nationals... video
Ok after calling Malinin goat I guess Levito has the best Lutz ever. What happened to this once objective channel? 🤔
Calm down and take a second to see that she clearly meant that Ilia was GOAT in jumping. She has literally stated that his skating skills weren’t the best. 😑
No such thing as an objective thing in figure skating
Kaori's lutz is just as bad and nasty as Isabeau's
Ilia not a goat, he still has a loot to work on, his skating skills are very poor, compared to other skaters , and his body posture lask a loot, this is not an only jumping sport, its like it was with sambo70 women, when they tried ti make it only a jumping performance and less on all of the figure skating side.
Malinin is not a crown prince of.any
kind. He never knew about such a thing as a 4A jump. He learned it from Yuzuru. By luck he succeeded. Malinin will never ever be the quality of Yuzuru. People can differ from me. Go ahead
Just gonna go out on a limb and say that no one lands a 4A out of "luck." It comes from talent, excellent technique, and insane amounts of hard work. As Ilia has stated, Yuzu was a big influence for him in learning the 4A, but Yuzu wasn't the first to attempt it in competition, so the idea that "he never knew about such a thing" before Yuzu is entirely unfounded.
I'm a huge fanyu, but saying Ilia landing 4A was luck has been proven false. It is skill. If it were luck, he would not be landing it consistently.
he is not even able to catch the quality of Nathan 😂, I miss Nathan more now , Yuzuru is on other level reach by few in 100 years
I think he learned from his parents first. But the way you guys treated Yuzeru's wife was so unjust & shameful. If you love him respect his privacy.
Saying that Malinin learned 4A by luck shows that you’re simply trying to bring him down because he lacks some artistry. It’s all 100% skill. Also, why are you bringing up Yuzuru in a video that doesn’t mention him at all? Fanyus seriously using Yuzuru to hate on other athletes because y’all are crying about artistry and presentation in a SPORT. 😑
Because of your choice of thumbnail, I have had to block your account from my homepage recommendations. Won’t be watching anymore!
Bye 🐒💩
Cry 😢
Go cry about it, Fanyu. 😂
Can’t even understand that this term was used as a light way to express that Ilia is super great because he’s doing things that no one’s ever done before.
Lol what a pretentious clown of a person who pathetically hates a teenage boy
@@eden409she doesn’t care, she just hates Ilia 😂 imagine how much she was seething when he won the GPF 😂 Poor little insecure miserly thing
They should let the russian athlets compete (even if under another flag - or name ). It's not a real competition unless the russians are there.
Get over it. They have their own GP's and doing great. Everyone is happy
Illia is the goat and yuzuru fans can keep crying about it we don't care.
Ilia is the GOAT for jumps. Tiny Shoma's "artistry" isn't for everyone's tastes and his poor awful jump technique should have him near the very bottom. Should score 0's and -1's for those bad jump take offs. Rion is horrible and falls way too much. She usually has disaster skaters and is trying to cheat to the top with a poor 4T but any advantage of the 4T is worthless since she can't even land proper triples consistently.