Soft Machine with Daevid Allen live at UFO in 1967
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- Опубликовано: 10 фев 2025
- Soft Machine, UFO Club, London, 2nd June 1967. 'Poem for Hoppy' by Daevid Allen. Flim & Lightshow Projections: Mark Boyle & Joan Hills. P&C Boyle Family Archive.
This has apparently just been discovered. Someone who has the right connections has just sent me it. It's not on RUclips so here it is. Anyone who's a fan seen this before?
This is the original UFO at the Blarney Club on Tottenham Court Road before they moved to the Roundhouse. FYI, this was recorded just before a Pink Floyd performance and they are playing the Floyd's instruments - Robert on Nick Mason's double-bass Premier kit, Kevin with Roger Water's Rickenbacker bass, and Mike on Rick Wright's Farfisa duo compact.
I love the Soft Machine and Gong. It's a shame Daevid Allen got kicked out of Britain. It would have been cool to hear him on a full length album with the Soft Machine.
Si il eu rentre en GB jamais de Gong.
He wasn't kicked out, they just wouldn't let him back in.
There was a whole albums daevid recorded with soft machine in Paris
Poem for Hoppy' is pronounced in such a vilely, beautiful way that it reminds me of Mark Smith of the Fall
Or John Cooper Clarke !!
I'm starting to find out that so many people did Mark E.'s style years before he even started!
he's doing a straight take on the US Beat poets of the 1950s: The anger and politics. It was quite a scene around Greenwich Village NYC, and North Beach, SF, after the war. As a young man in Australia, he obviously picked up on it. He even affects a bit of an American accent.
In the early to mid 60s Allen was gravitating to, and connecting with the likes of William S Burroughs, in Paris, where the main Beats were hanging out by then. He also had a 'pass' to the Deya scene in Majorca, partying with Robert Graves and the bohemian elite. About 1964 or 66, all the main beats do a big gig at the Albert Hall. It's a cultural landmark. I don't think Allen was there in person, but he was there in spirit. Allen was over a decade older than the freak scene people of UK, but due to his affectation of Beat aesthetics, he was ahead of them, and easily transitioned from beatnik to freak. There was a lot of overlap between hippies and beatniks. TBH Allen's poetry has feeling, but it's a bit affected and cringey. By the time of the above, the style is a bit outdated. It's kind of a beat cliché style
I’m so glad that video from that historical event still exist
R.I.P. Hoppy, 30 Jan 2015.
I read this club was used most nights of the week as an Irish community hall. I can just picture little old Irish ladies wondering in from the street and witnessing something like this. "Jaysus, Mary and Joseph!!!"
This is absolutely FANTASTIC!! PLEASE POST MORE OF THIS GIG IF IT EXISTS ON FILM!!!!
Holy smokes, it doesn't get more rare than this. Finally a film document that captures what really used to go on inside UFO. Long lost Floyd? How about Tomorrow with Steve Howe?
Amazing historical footage - it's a miracle that some of these UFO performances were filmed at the Blarney Irish dancehall
RIP Mr Ayers thank you for brightening up existence
Brilliant stuff and still relevant
actually, this is not "nuts" at all; but rather quite a lucid and informed social comment if you listen carefully. if you`re a newcomer to soft machine - or psychedelia for that matter - you have a lot to look forward to and to learn, believe me ;-)
Awesome, thanks for sharing this! Big props to the Boyle family too!
sounds like Joe Boyd at the start saying "cut the record" soooo good man
Yes Joe Boyd only American I can think of who was in charge with hoppy
Agree about Robert.
The emphasis on the last syllable of each last word in a sentence, the whole way Daevid is declaring his "official complaints" reminds me so much of 2 decades later, i.e. the unforgettable Mark Smith from the Fall
he's doing a straight take on the US Beat poets of the 1950s: The anger and politics. It was quite a scene around Greenwich Village NYC, and North Beach, SF, after the war. As a young man in Australia, he obviously picked up on it. He even affects a bit of an American accent.
In the early to mid 60s Allen was gravitating to, and connecting with the likes of William S Burroughs, in Paris, where the main Beats were hanging out by then. He also had a 'pass' to the Deya scene in Majorca, partying with Robert Graves and the bohemian elite. About 1964 or 66, all the main beats do a big gig at the Albert Hall. It's a cultural landmark. I don't think Allen was there in person, but he was there in spirit. Allen was over a decade older than the freak scene people of UK, but due to his affectation of Beat aesthetics, he was ahead of them, and easily transitioned from beatnik to freak. There was a lot of overlap between hippies and beatniks. TBH Allen's poetry has feeling, but it's a bit affected and cringey. By the time of the above, the style is a bit outdated. It's kind of a beat cliché style
@alexlancer11 For those interested in the details, this film is from June 2, 1967. Hoppy had been tried the previous day. The show was written up in International Times 15. It mentions that Jimi Hendrix, Chas Chandler, Pete Townshend, Eric Burdon and some of the Yardbirds were there. Also on the bill that night was Hydrogen Jukebox, which featured Glen Sweeney, later of Third Ear Band. The review of the show notes: "It is a pity that with all this happening the Pink Floyd had to play like bums."
Que buen video, jamàs lo habìa visto; increible poder ver algo de los años del ufo, aparte de Tonite Let's All Make Love In London.
Gracias por subirlo!
I graduated high school in 1974 & began my pursuit of higher education which, among other things, included this ground breaking band. The age of Aquarius has, alas, passed.
I wish there was footage of a complete performance of The Pink Floyd at the UFO from 1966-67, I'd kill for any early unreleased Floyd footage with Syd.
@Ford Prefect recover the video and upload it on RUclips. You will be a hero 🙏🏻🙏🏻
@Ford Prefect if this is true that is pure gold we’ve got to see this
@Ford Prefect 😭😭
ruclips.net/video/jDdepIhwru0/видео.html this video is the closest thing to it
If I had a time machine.... well you know where I would go
To elaborate somewhat on "nope!!!" It was founding member Daveid Allen, guitar/vocal, before his being refused reentry into England after a Soft Machine stint in, I believe, either France or Spain.
Soft Machine 1...they did the pinwheel LP cover thing two years before Led Zep III.
Joe Boyd at 0:25 calling for the house sound to be cut......very historical
think I might have been there - not that I can remember !!!
but I survived...
I've been told this about the source for this clip. Apparently "As technical director he recorded everything played in the UFO. he also worked for the Stones and recorded everything for them. He's 70 now and is living in Amsterdam where he is transfering everything to digital. Should be quite an archive."
He also has, so I'm told, un-heard live Pink Floyd with Syd Barrett
@mtopper66 no 'fraid not
@Allen Albright on the Internet. He posted it. No name now, it was too long ago sorry
The footage is from Mark Boyle family. No relations at all to Jack Moore who all of his life perpetuated myth that he "filmed" Pink Floyd at UFO in 67. He got his equipment around late 1968 and did not film Pink Floyd earlier than 1970. ("As technical director he recorded everything played in the UFO. ")
Soft Machine clip was officially released on Gong DVD on Voiceprint label.
Please put with Daevid Allen in the video title ! This is effin great !
Done! :)
@@mlucifersam THANK YOU !!!!!!!!!!!!
If only their singles had sounded like this. If only.
Even "Fred The Fish" was ahead of its time... it was abandoned, and instead "Love Makes Sweet Music" was the single.... nice song, but nowhere near as good as the B-side, "Feelin Reelin Squealin"
If they had they would of sold even less singles
daevid allen was an australian who co-founded soft machine & gong.
@tomthefunky Mike McInnerney did graphics work for the London Free School before becoming the arts editor of International Times in 1967. His wedding that summer was a big "flower power" event in a London park - well covered in the press. He also designed the 14 Hour Technicolour Dream poster. He later became a follower of Meher Baba - the same guru that Pete Townshend followed - which might explain the Tommy connection. The last I heard he was lecturing at Bath Spa College.
I did know there was any footage of any kind of thier ufo shows..... Thanks...
The future days have past...Amazing, that some of those people dropped acid that night and had to get up and go to work the next morning..A lot of them really lived it up back then..Then hangover in the 70's for some of the original aristocrat's..I don't fucking know i was born in 66...Swinging london must have been a real metropolis at the time..
I saw them in a marquee in St Tropez later that month.
We set them up with the Living Theatre and that led to their exodus to St. Tropez
@@craigsams1744 Was the association with the Picasso play a planned thing or chance ?
I should say we saw Dave Brubeck in concert a few days before so the SM was something of a cultural shock :-)
@@kohaylan Once we handed their management over to Living Theatre I no longer knew what they were doing, i.e the ‘Picasso play.’
Is Kevin Ayers playing Roger Water’s bass? I notice it’s the same model that he was playing around this era, at the UFO!
He does. I noticed it too. It is definitely Water's Rickenbacker RM1999.
this video is included on Gong's Montserrat 1973 and Other Stories DVD
I wish I could be there - but I havent been born
Those willbearewere the days
Thanks for the background info. and the update.
I am a bit puzzled by the issue of a dodgy passport. I mean, Australia is part of the Commonwealth. How could he have been forced to flee Britain?
out of sight ⚡✌
Happy Days
we know what you mean we know what you've seen we understand
great historical value. back then it was maybe something different but I really cant listen to it now, though ....
51 years ago tonight
@bobvidpix wow!sounds like you were there :)
@mlucifersam I gotta see that with sid that your talking about?..Have you seen the clips for the movie "dope?,1967 at the ufo club,'.Floyd is just the house band",that plays in the movie.I only seen a clip of it though..Wow i didn't realize how late my comment is to yours!.lol
psihodelic wery much!!! thank you
RIP Daevid
Try the GAS website - they had some of his original books for sale.
@bobvidpix : That's fascinating, Bob!! Do you remember the famous Stax/Volt tour? It took place in March 1967. Please tell me you saw one of those shows.
Absolutely fabulous stuff! Ridiculous, pretentious & unlistenable, but such f- - - ing genuine psychedeiica!
This is a good find. Were Floyd on the bill with the soft machine?
Allen Albright there isn't much. Syd wasn't with them long
Down the groovy stairs we went on the worn carpet past wild women dancing to endless chords and Mark Boyle up on the scaffolding with his projector overheating and the smell of burning slides mingled with pot smoke....
anything by the early Pink Floyd (sound)? or the T Set? or (god help us!) Leonards Lodgers!!
Allen Albright Lucy Leave is fantastic. What else do you know of that is floating around unreleased? I’m assuming the 66 show you are referring to is the Free School show?
There’s rumors of the Games for May show being recorded. There are photos of the Floyd on stage at the 24 Hour Technicolor Dream with someone filming Syd. Maybe more Granada footage? We know the Christmas on Earth show was filmed as a small clip exists and Hendrix/Cocker’s sets exist. Nick Mason is supposedly in possession of footage of the 5 man Floyd backstage. There’s the tape of the Vegetable Man Jam Nick played for someone in 69 and is bootlegged.
There’s a short clip that proves that Reaction in G was recorded properly. Other titles floating around include “Intremental”, “Early Morning Henry”, “Untitled”, “Sunshine”.
There’s rumored to be a recording of “I Get Stoned”. Plus unreleased takes of “Lucifer Sam”, “Bike”, “Arnold Layne” and “Vegetable Man”.
Plus somewhere their TV performances in America on Boss City and the Perry Como show. Owsley/Bill Graham are rumored to have recorded all their Fillmore shows. There’s info suggesting they may have filmed something in Amsterdam during the day prior to a gig.
Some of these have got to exist somewhere.
Years ago I would doubt any of this exists, but over the last 10 years or so we got the 65 recordings, the Golden Circle show, Emily on TOTP, a minute long clip from the Roundhouse, John Latham, She Was a Millionaire, the Dope clip, a recent clip of them at the UFO, and an official release of “Vegetable Man” and “Scream Thy Last Scream”.
So, you really never know.
Sun Ra that you can light !!!
heh I've been to venues that tried to be as visual as this but have never quite nailed it..
wow, if I were there I wouldn't need any drug haha
@Beadbud5000 Ohhh,yeah that makes sense.Ah if only such a grail could be discovered!
@bobvidpix: Thanks for the info, Bob. Did you ever go there? Your profile says you live in the U.S. Are you English or American?
@cordedpoodle Lawrence : still alive and kicking
Don't suppose anybodies got footage of "Third
Ear Band" at the UFO ?
Obviously influenced by Ferlinghetti's Cellar album. I know what you are thinking... Ferlinghetti who?
Allen was refused re-entry to the UK because he overstayed his visa on a prior visit. Rather different from the image presented of him being hounded out of England. I used to be a fan of Gong, but these days I feel the best thing he did, was getting his landlords son then 16 to form a band. Robert Wyatt is a far more important performer in my humble opinion of course.
I wouldn`t bet on that... ;-)
Is this night club night tripper or ufo club still going on today at the same location..
Freaky wierd, man!
:-o
You don't see this crowd nor open mic these days
can anyone write it down here for the not-english speakers! I cant understand most of what he says. Thanks!
can anyone take the effort to write down this speech?
does anyone knows the name of the music on the begining?
No Music, what the heack are you talking about, this is progressive, i guess a little too progressive for some.
This is great news indeed about this rediscovered footage. I was wondering if anything else has come to light ? Currious, since this clip was way cool. Please post more if possible.
UFO stand for Underground Freak Out ,
Is that Syd playing with them?
No I think it’s Kevin Ayers with his rickenbacker instead of his normal Gibson hollowbody. There’s a picture of him with a rickenbacker
lol its The Fall
@pataphysician71: Bath Spa College? Wow, so you can relax, get a massage and foot rub, and learn stuff at the same time! (just kidding)
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I read Ronnie Lane of the Faces married Mike McInnerney's wife. Or was it the other way around? And I'm pretty sure it was Mike who turned Townshend on to Baba.
H-O-P-P-Why?
@TumbrelJockey Sterile by design. Sterile by corporations. Sigh. Nothing lasts not the Raphelites, not the Bohemians, not the Jazzers, not the Beats, not the Hippies, not the Punks, not the... but the avant guard artist refuses to die!!!
anyone wants to know the uk 60s scene was more political then you think not just dandy mods waters allen hopkins and many others were activists from the get go 1984 chalengers!
nope!!!!
supermarket of the bloody jewsl" . .?
We need some Pink Floyd from the UFO
crap, too bad they didn't have any music
ad lib on good acid...
R.I.P. Daevid Allen, 13 Mar 2015.