You actually introduced the expansion as "Traders & Builders," which, as you know, is a classic Carcassonne expansion. Glad to see you review this title, I've been interested in learning more about it. Thanks Tom.
I think I'm going to look into Seafarers. Knights and Cities looked a little too in depth. This one has some things I probably wouldn't ever use. I'll probably just print off a Harbor Master card and call it good. What else can you do with the hexes that you can build roads on? They were the only other thing that really piqued my interest.
Cities &Knights have become a defacto extension for all my Catan games, and not at all obsolete! It's complexity is necessary for a fulfilling gameplay, while T&B is a fun, but unnecessary complexity. As I can see, I share this feeling with a lot of other players too. Seafarers is just a fun addition, no complexity there really.
Fo me Seafarers becomes a must because of exploration element, which is very fun, but indeed after couple dozen games I needed something that would add some complexity and little more negative interaction and I got C&K too
Thanks for the heads up! Just received this as a gift and I'm gonna try it tonight with some friends! I think we will try the fish thing and harbor supremacy mixed together.
Traders and Barbarians is great! So many different games to play/add to the original, I also especially loved Cities and Knights. I like being able to play these more complex games with people that play often rather than the same simple game over and over again (don't get me wrong, I love the original). Been thinking of playing Cities and Knights plus Seafarers plus fish/harbourmaster with the extension (6 players). Now that would take a hell of a long time to play!
Cities and Knights is better than Seafarers (in my catan fan opinion). Settlers of the Stone Age is another catan game that is great. Esp as it has extra desert hexes that are played during the game. When another player puts a desert hex over your property - it is history, eroded, caput! :)
Do you have a review of the base game? I'm trying to get my friend psyched to play the game and because she's a boardgame virgin. I thought showing one of your reviews would help give her an idea of what the game is about but I can't find a review of the base game by you. You do best reviews. If you haven't done one already please review the base game. I want to see Holly eat some settlers houses and roads! They're full of fiber! :-)
We bought Cities and Knights and was missing the event die does any one know how to get a hold of the manufacturer so we can ask fo r a replacement? I was really choked we've owned the game 2.5 years and never played it.
Sea Farers is NOT an expansion! Klaus Tueber presented the game as one componet. That explains why you have so much extra sheep when playing settlers of catan. The good folks at Kosmos made a sound business decision when separating the two parts .
Strange you don't like Cities & Knights, as it's the favorite of literally everyone we play with... we find it keeps the game interesting and fast paced, the original settlers while still good isn't quite as exciting without C&K. The only time we play the original settlers alone anymore is when we play with new players.
Be more objective dude! give your impressions to the end of the video. You constantly annoy us throughout the whole material with what you like and what you don't!!!
+Dani Nanestean I know this is a necro-reference, but this is one of Tom's earlier videos from 18 September 2008 - I think his 8+ years of experience have really changed his approach - you should check out some of the modern videos, especially the 'top 10' series with Zee Garcia and Sam Healey.
He should be more "objective" in his review? You do know that a review (IN THIS SPECIFIC CONTEXT so we don't have morons pissing about with the different definitions) is an opinion, right?
If you want an objective rules explanation or an unboxing of the parts of the game, there are other videos for that... I came here to see if Tom liked this expansion or not, and why he felt that way. That's why it's a review.
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i started with the base game but ended up with 3 more extensions. The game is amazing ...
You actually introduced the expansion as "Traders & Builders," which, as you know, is a classic Carcassonne expansion.
Glad to see you review this title, I've been interested in learning more about it. Thanks Tom.
The entire time you talked about how everything was okay and you don't use it that much, but u said at the beginning and end that it was amazing...
this was extremely concise & helpful, thank you
cities and knights is awesome!! sure it added more time to the game..but it was more fun added.
thanks again, tom, for being such a great help when it comes to knowing which games are right for me!
Great work, Tom.
I've had this box collecting dust for a month, but this actually inspired me to try out the fisherman variant.
I think I'm going to look into Seafarers. Knights and Cities looked a little too in depth. This one has some things I probably wouldn't ever use. I'll probably just print off a Harbor Master card and call it good.
What else can you do with the hexes that you can build roads on? They were the only other thing that really piqued my interest.
I agree that the Harbor pts. & Fisherman of Catan sound like a nice addition to the game.
Cities &Knights have become a defacto extension for all my Catan games, and not at all obsolete! It's complexity is necessary for a fulfilling gameplay, while T&B is a fun, but unnecessary complexity. As I can see, I share this feeling with a lot of other players too. Seafarers is just a fun addition, no complexity there really.
Fo me Seafarers becomes a must because of exploration element, which is very fun, but indeed after couple dozen games I needed something that would add some complexity and little more negative interaction and I got C&K too
Thanks for the heads up! Just received this as a gift and I'm gonna try it tonight with some friends! I think we will try the fish thing and harbor supremacy mixed together.
Thanks Tom. Great review. I was looking at buying the rivers expansion but now I just need to get this one instead. It has it all.
Traders and Barbarians is great! So many different games to play/add to the original, I also especially loved Cities and Knights. I like being able to play these more complex games with people that play often rather than the same simple game over and over again (don't get me wrong, I love the original). Been thinking of playing Cities and Knights plus Seafarers plus fish/harbourmaster with the extension (6 players). Now that would take a hell of a long time to play!
great review - I wasn't sure about this one - I really like C&K online, but it is a bit long-winded live - but I think we'll get it.
Cities and Knights is better than Seafarers (in my catan fan opinion). Settlers of the Stone Age is another catan game that is great. Esp as it has extra desert hexes that are played during the game. When another player puts a desert hex over your property - it is history, eroded, caput! :)
Do you have a review of the base game? I'm trying to get my friend psyched to play the game and because she's a boardgame virgin. I thought showing one of your reviews would help give her an idea of what the game is about but I can't find a review of the base game by you. You do best reviews.
If you haven't done one already please review the base game.
I want to see Holly eat some settlers houses and roads! They're full of fiber! :-)
great review, i think im gonna stick with seafarers
We bought Cities and Knights and was missing the event die does any one know how to get a hold of the manufacturer so we can ask fo r a replacement? I was really choked we've owned the game 2.5 years and never played it.
Well, 10 years later, but you can ask the store and they claim the manufacturer
@eternalnaught
My wife phones MAyfair games and they said that they would be happy to send us the missing die.
It arived in the mail last week.
thanks for this review ^^
Awesome
Sea Farers is NOT an expansion! Klaus Tueber presented the game as one componet. That explains why you have so much extra sheep when playing settlers of catan. The good folks at Kosmos made a sound business decision when separating the two parts
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@Dbronko If so why make a comment on it, I'd stay away
this looks very good
Strange you don't like Cities & Knights, as it's the favorite of literally everyone we play with... we find it keeps the game interesting and fast paced, the original settlers while still good isn't quite as exciting without C&K. The only time we play the original settlers alone anymore is when we play with new players.
you seem to like to use the word convoluted haha :D
Woo hoo for fishermen of catan
good rev txs
I liked the Cities and commodities and politics/science/trade cards, but dislike the barbarians/knights part of the game.
GO GIANTS!!!....and settlers
You said traders and builders..... Just sayn.... We dont play Cities and knights anymore so complex for a simple game
I'm a buyin it.
@MrBlairblack big whoops
classic
@notsoscarredface Explain?
yea giants
Rangers!!
Be more objective dude! give your impressions to the end of the video. You constantly annoy us throughout the whole material with what you like and what you don't!!!
+Dani Nanestean I know this is a necro-reference, but this is one of Tom's earlier videos from 18 September 2008 - I think his 8+ years of experience have really changed his approach - you should check out some of the modern videos, especially the 'top 10' series with Zee Garcia and Sam Healey.
He should be more "objective" in his review?
You do know that a review (IN THIS SPECIFIC CONTEXT so we don't have morons pissing about with the different definitions) is an opinion, right?
If you want an objective rules explanation or an unboxing of the parts of the game, there are other videos for that... I came here to see if Tom liked this expansion or not, and why he felt that way. That's why it's a review.
i prefer cities and knights...traders and barbarians gets complicated.
TRADERS AND BUILDERS?????????????? its barbarains
more like gay-ming
Woah, Jesus, calm down dude