Miami Move to the Big Ten in the Works?
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The Canes are’t a regional brand (South). They are a national brand (BIG). I would love to see ‘The U’ in the BIG.
This is the part that too many talking heads and FSU fans don't understand. The average college football fan is age 40 and over. For us, The U is an iconic program from the days we started following football with some historic rivalries. Plus a lot of folks in B1G country is retiring to Miami and it's a great academic school. In terms of what's best financially, FSU is better for the B1G. In terms of fit, I'd take Miami all day.
Miami being a member now of the AAU helps their chances getting into the Big Ten
Mark has been on this for a long time. Schooled me. Don’t see too much in the waters to change it up. Just makes most sense that FSU, Clemson, Miami and Notre Dame will be the next 4 in.
Also import not to forget, the university of Miami just last year became an AAU accredited university which is a soft requirement for admission into the Big 10. The other schools that get Big 10 buzz don’t have that.
AAU is not a hard or soft requirement. This myth needs to die. MSU wasn't an AAU member for their first 7 years. Nebraska had it and lost it. Oregon is fledgling. The B1G has wanted the Irish for over 50 years. They only became AAU last year. You just have to be making a significant investment in research and schools are doing that.
It's very important to the B1G that a school is AAU. Michigan State joined 75 years ago. A lot has changed since then. Nebraska join with in and had it taken away by the B1G votes of Indiana and Wisconsin. Even stories of them being warned to get it back by the B1G.
@@TestSubject38 ND wasn't AAU until last year. At what point over the last 40 years of courting ND was this a deal breaker? LOL
@heartbreak25 ND has always been different. No AAU needed for them. They are the exception and are already written into the media deal.
They don't deserve AAU but it's not a surprise they got it. Most of the AAU committee is B1G schools. Relationships are important in college sports. Bending rules goes along way.
@@TestSubject38 If there are all of these exceptions then how is there any rule? And why do fans think they know more about the B1G requirements than two B1G commissioners involved in realignment? Delaney and Warren both stated publicly that it's not a requirement. They're lying to everyone?
Miami got AAU last year along with Notre Dame so that helps alot. The B1G says its not a requirement to get in, but it really is.
Miami to B1G 10 appears to be a perfect fit - Big Ten would benefit from the Miami market and opening up the Florida pipeline even more…Miami is an AAU R1 school which is Big Ten academic requirement
Sure. Let them in my B1G. Schedule to include a late November road trip to Minnesota.
Big 10. High Academic and research institutions
@ 4:42 ~ Not in the Middle of Indiana. At the Northern East border about 2 miles South of the
Indiana/Michigan, State Line Road. That being said: Geographically speaking, Notre Dame is
more central to the Big 10 region, than even Indiana, Bloomington. But what does Geography
matter anymore, when you've got teams from the West Coast in Both the Big 10 & ACC ..?
The B1G region isn't geography but where the largest numbers of alums live. LA has the second most alums after Chicago.
@@heartbreak25 = That is only true of today's game ... The Big Ten, as all other major Conferences had been, was always Geographically designed.
@@Jaems_Scott No. That's the SEC way.
I'm old enough to remember when they said PSU was too far east which is why they were the last team to be added without a unanimous vote. You think Michigan's comments about Catholics had anything to do with location and they still feel that way? You sure about that geography comment?
The B1G has survived and thrived since 1896 because it changes with the times. Not having a presence where many of your alums and donors live would lead to a slow death. There are reasons Kansas and Missouri weren't invited on countless occasions.
@@heartbreak25 = Sure, it's not like Pennsylvania is right next to Ohio or anything. Or that Bloomington and West Lafayette are in the same State as Notre Dame. Because that would be regional, wouldn't it?
Michigan's comments about Catholics mean very little, when the Big Ten has been seeking to absorb ND for decades after the fact, when the University of Chicago dropped its varsity athletics in 1946, leaving the Big 10. They Picked up Michigan State, and offered to Notre Dame, who chose to remain Independent.
The Big 10's involvement to deconstruct the Big East, was also an attempt to force ND into a Conference. The addition of Rutgers was calculated, while taking Maryland from the ACC rather than a team further south with more athletics success. Other than their AAU status, both New Jersey & Maryland border with Pennsylvania. Keeping things more regional.
Nebraska sits right under Iowa, and is the Midwest. Very Regional.
Alumni on the West Coast ... meh, so what? The Big Ten didn't give a flying flip about LA viewership until the Pac was ready to collapse.
The Big Ten had been proactive in their pursuit of the membership schools they have. Adding the teams from the west only happened when they came begging for a place to call home.
@@Jaems_Scott Oh okay, states touching is your metric despite Nebraska being over 1,000 miles from PSU. LOL! Again, you're not arguing with me, you're arguing with the coaches and ADs at Michigan, Michigan State, Indiana, and Minnesota about PSU at the time. The same way it's not a big deal now, 30 years from now, current B1G expansion won't be a big deal to that era of fans either.
How old are you? You have a lot of historical facts wrong.
The first person to try to create the Northeast version of the ACC was Joe Paterno in the 80s. He failed and that's why PSU joined the B1G. The Big East was imploded by the ACC who wanted to build the strongest basketball conference not understanding the value of football. The B1G wanted to add UNC and UVA after Nebraska to strengthen the Big Ten Network. Both schools said no so they settled for Rutgers and Maryland. Again, the DMV and NY/NJ have a large concentration of B1G alums who watch B1G content.
The B1G didn't care about LA viewership despite being part of the longest bowl tie-in in college football history since 1947 with the PAC-12? Ever heard of the Rose Bowl - Grandaddy of them all? It's the only bowl to have a nationally televised parade celebrating it. Hint, that game has NEVER been played outside of LA. LOL!
The B1G isn't proactive in trying to get into Texas at the moment. If a group of Texas teams called them like they did 10 years ago, they'd try to make it work. Like they tried but failed to do 10 years ago. Basic math.
Miami to me has Always been the chalk to go B1G.
for several reasons.
just wondering who their travel partner would be
Its going to be FSU! USC and UCLA were brough to the B10 as rivalry pair. Oregon and Washington were add for 3 West coast games between the 4 West coast B10 teams every year. The SEC has footprint in Florida! Its tv partners only going to pay so much more. The B10 doesn't have footprint in the South/Southeast! Its TV partner, if the B10 wants in the South, they would want to be in the largest state that has viable CFB historic brands in a big state with multiple top 25 markets. Well, Texas is taken by the SEC. The only state with two schools that gives what your looking, it is Florida with Miami and FSU!
Perhaps but Miami doesn’t bring something FSU already bring. BIG could also look to a GT for Atlanta
@@adamb6370 What exactly doesn't FSU bring that Miami doesn't? Location is important as well. The TV partners have say so on too. They want weekly matchups!
@@arronfrazier7873 FSU brings the whole state from Key West to Pensacola. Miami really doesn’t have a presence outside of the metro area. FSU can deliver Miami. UF can do the same. But Miami can’t deliver viewership statewide.
@@adamb6370 News flash! As a Miami fan, who's lived here in Florida for 20 plus years, I'm a Chicago. Guess what! This state is full of MidWest and East from top to bottom. That means B10 fans and alums! The TV partners are about national matchups. Guess what! Miami has national history with Nebraska, Penn State, Ohio State, Wisconsin and even Washington. Also, the University of Miami at Coral Gables is located in South Florida which has between 6 million and 7 million people.
The big ten would love to have Miami they need a footprint in Florida
Miami isn’t Florida
Miami and FSU combo should go to B1G
This is the first Miami put money into the program. Lol suuuuuuure! Wink wink nod nod.
Miami and USF are my dream B1G schools.
Can't wait to watch Miami play Indiana 😅😆🤣
Love seeing Flo on the channel!!!!
I personally think its wrong for any Miami Hurricane fan to say "Im dying to get out of the ACC" like weve never won the ACC so how are we sick of it? FSU has all thr right to say theyre sick of the ACC theyve proven to be better than the ACC by having won it multiple times. Like if the Hurricanes have won the conference a bunch of times and continously kicked the crap out of the ACC then sure weve proven too big for the ACC, but the only thing proven is that Miami literally every. single. season and multiple times a season have lost to a team we think we shouldnt have. Prior to every season I look at our schedule and tell myself, "Oh were going to beat that team and that team. NO way were losing to that team!" and what happens? We lose to a school we shouldnt have. Im sorry but we cannot act like were better than the ACC or too big for the ACC when in fact at the present time the ACC is where we belong. If we win the ACC this year and just crush it on the field and possibly repeat as ACC champs next season, its possible, than im all on board with the notion "Im dying to get out of the ACC" yeah and im *dying* to win the ACC just *ONCE*
I look at that conference as our bad luck... Dana Shalala sent us there n destroyed the football program from within.
Its not personally wrong! its about money! Its also not about being stupid! Idiots like you seem to believe Miami should stay pat!
I hope not. The selfish me wamts the SEC
The B10 makes more money! Miami has history against Penn State, Ohio State, Nebraska, Notre Dame, Wisconsin and Michigan. Also, I live here in Central Florida/Clearwater and I'm originally from Chicago. This state has grown in my over 20 years being here. Its full of MidWest and Eastcoast transplant aka Big 10 fans and alums!
Miami is not a candidate for the SEC. Outside of being in the south, they don’t check any of the boxes required. Not a flagship state university with a large statewide/regional fan base. Do not have an on campus stadium. Have massive attendance problems for games.
@@adamb6370 what position do you hold in the SEC again???
@@hurricane2053 the “clearly I pay attention than you and can provide valuable input” position which is senior to yours because the SEC has been saying this since last summer when Miami tried to cut a deal to bring FSU in with them. Heck Donno on locked on Canes covered it.
@@adamb6370 until the smoke clears ..........
Miami & big 10 go together like oil & water, nothing in common.
What the video count? What Mark Rodgers is this?
looks like he only took a couple bits from an interview and posted it. I don't see a full interview with Flo.
The weather sux in big 10 country
Miami has been playing Rutgers, Temple, Pittsburgh and BC since the 80's on the road in late October and in November!
At least schools in the B1G don't cancel games because of some storm is passing through.
Strictly speaking on football, I would rather see the Canes in the SEC. Overall, the Big 10 is a better conference for Miami.
Getting all of these talented 🙌 👌 👏 😍 ✨️ ❤️ player's, but still have the same old 😳 🙄 🤔 😑 😒 🤣 dumb ass coaches, I just don't believe 🙄 😳 🤣 😒 😑 😴 /think that Mario Cristobal or anything is going too change anytime soon 🙄 😳 😉 😴 😜 😀 "?!!?🤔🤨🤢🤮😎😩😫🥱😤😡😠🤬😖🤡💩💯💥💣🔥👍👌🤞👏🤝🙌🙏
It makes sense. Miami is a better fit for the SEC and should be in that conference. Most people aren’t aware that once upon a time Miami and Alabama use to be sister programs. Matter of fact back, I think, in the 50’s or 60’s the then President for Alabama advocated for Miami to be in the SEC along with them. But, the Einsteins at Miami who ran the program at that time wanted to go in another direction. I think Miami would do well in the Big 10 but they’d do even better going to the SEC.
No, Miami fits better in the B10! The B10 is now national! It gets Miami and FSU, it truly national! I live here in Florida! I'm a Chicago native! This state may be in the Southeast but its full of MidWest and East coast transplant which means B10 alums and fans! Miami has significant historical history over the last 38 years with Ohio State, Penn State, Michigan and Nebraska! 3 of these teams, Miami has played for national titles! The base non West coast B10 teams have large alumni and fans bases! That is why the B10 makes more tv money despite the SEC winning all these national titles since 2003!
Alabama and Miami never been sister schools so stop it. Alabama is a public school and Miami is a private school and they academics are greatly different.
@@goblue636 As a Miami fan, when, he said sister schools, I was like WTF! As you said, Alabama is public state funded school and Miami is a small private school!
Alabama is one of the schools against Miami joining the SEC.
FSU/Miami to the B1G would be amazing.
2 schools in the same state wouldn’t serve BIGs southern ambitions. Either FSU/Clemson or Miami/GT
@@adamb6370 It 100% would.
@@adamb6370 Florida is a big enough state that I'm not sure it matters if you have two, especially if you're talking 1 in the panhandle and 1 at the southern tip.
@@GreatDinkino1 but unlike Miami, FSU has a statewide presence. Hence that would allow the BIG to look at a Clemson who put the in the Carolinas and Georgia. The only way I see Miami getting picked up on the round is if the SEC scoops up FSU and BIG is out of options in Florida.
FSU, Miami, Clemson,& Louisville to Big 12 would be amazing.
Why would they make a lateral move and make less money?
FSU would not coexist in the same conference as UCF. Maybe Miami if they are desperate and see it as temporary
Why not the Big 12!!!!
You want Miami to make less money and play against teams, they really don't have great history with! Miami has great history with Nebraska, Ohio State, Michigan and Penn State!
@@arronfrazier7873 Big 12 just signed a big deal. to be honest, I think we’re all stuck in the 90s mommy haven’t done shit since 2001. We really have to start winning before we can talk about moving because I would hate for us to go move and would be Owen and seven or oh 12 every year recruiting is a big part but not only that is developing so start winning first and then we can start talking about moving and if we’re gonna move, let’s go somewhere where we’re gonna get money first and we don’t have to wait.
@@1983Canes So what! The B10 makes more money! Miami has history in big games against Penn State, Michigan, Ohio State, Wisconsin and Penn State.
I don't think it's a coincidence that Notre Dame and Miami both got AAU status last year. I think the Big Ten will get them and stop at 20 schools for the time being. SEC gets Florida State, Clemson, North Carolina, and Virginia.
@@MarkHicok Why would the B10 just want one Florida school versus Miami and FSU. They didn't just want USC but UCLA too!