I just sent this to my guy! This would be perfect in...... pretty much every room in my house!! haha But I'm renovating my art studio/second bedroom. It's screaming for something special. But leaving it white, which I see so often with this and Board and Baton etc is such a waste of creativity imho! I'm living in the wrong era apparently! I would faux fini all the beams to look like dark walnut. Then I would do an aged faux effect on the interior of each square as my base with a bold colour and several lighter glazes to give it a softer, cloudy aged look. I would dry bush some muted bronze on the interior mouldings so they stand out a bit. Then in the interior of the squares, I would choose a few from an array of gorgeous 2 foot by 2 foot stencils I have. I would first use plaster to give it an embossed look. Once dry and lightly sanded, I would put the stencils back on and go to town, dry brushing/stippling muted colours so it appears to be aged and faded. And adding gold foil on accents, then mute them. I recently did the stencil work on my kitchen ceiling without the wood coffering and it's stunning! But traditionally these paintings belong on coffered ceilings so it's all framed and rather ornate. Depending on what techniques are used and materials, it could look anywhere from rustic, old world to subtle and soft or very ornate. Metallic paints really add a layer of glamour and were very popular up until about 100 years ago. Then everyone became rather boring and white plain ceilings became the norm sadly. This style of ceiling would go great almost anywhere, in any style of house, including new but certainly historic homes like Victorian, Second Empire, Tudor Italianate etc. Another really lovely choice, though can be rather costly are tin panels, even faux tin if they are good quality. Or Lincrusta, which I LOVE, though that's expensive and a tad tricky to install. The possibilities are endless. Even just choosing nice contrasting colours would be such a better choice that all white or all any colour. It's like going to the expense of installing wall mouldings beautiful crown mouldings and painting them all white. All those stunning details get lost in a sea of nothingness. People are so scared of colour these days and a little creativity!! Especially on the ceiling! I'm sure many don't agree, like I said, I am from a different era. No matter what, those coffered ceilings are gorgeous!! I hope I can talk my friend into giving me a hand to put them up but one room will never be enough!!! haha Rustic faux or real beams are gorgeous too!!!
Thanks, T.O.H.! Great vid with clear and easy to understand steps. One recommendation, if I may. About the 3:45 mark or so, where you're toenailing the cross pieces into the main beams, it is NEVER a good idea to have your thumb (or any finger) anywhere close to the nail path of that air nailer. You WILL "eventually" find a board whose grain causes the nail to deflect outward instead of along the intended straight path into the 'meat' of the wood. Having your finger in that path results in your finger 'meat' having a very painful 'meeting' of its own with that nail! Friendly tip from one who has had a 'meeting' or two with a air-driven finish nail.
This is a great solution for those who would like a coffered ceiling but don't have high ceilings to go the traditional full beam coffered ceiling style. I think I may do this in my living room to give it a bit more elegance. As soon as I pull all the faux wood paneling off the walls and replace it with drywall :( That wood paneling is kind of taking away from the elegance factor!
My father left the paneling up, filled and smoothed the recesses with joint compound, sanded, and painted. You will need to a tape and compound the dry wall joints anyway. Plus even with the paneling off well you could use the really really thin dry wall I guess. This was much easier for him to do it looked amazing and we didn't lose any Room so to speak because the paneling is much thinner than Half inch dry wall. Good luck. It was definitely the better way to go for our family
@@overcomer4226 I just did as adviced and the result was amazing! 😄👍 I added a bit of texture then knocked it down. It saved me a ton of money and time. The only issue is I forgot to tape where the panels meet. You think I'll get cracking overtime?
I'm i just being stupid i can't see how the marking of the scribe line at 2:00 mins would work.. one of the pencil marks was made on the piece already nailed to the ceiling.
🤣 my thoughts exactly- even when not using the nail gun, one would think he’d have safety glasses on because there’s always bits of debris falling away from above as you are craning your neck to look above yourself
On the shorter cross members where there are no ceiling joists for nailing... we have used contact cement with success. It takes a bit longer, but it makes a very secure bond to the ceiling. Just be sure you get EXACT placement right the first time... there is no adjusting once the two cement surfaces contact.
Borat Yeah... it does matter. The joists run one way so you can nail into the main runners or cross members... not both. LOL... buy a book on basic construction... and a can of contact cement.
Porsche924Tim cross runners in between joists? Uhm no such thing. Your either nailing along a joist or every 12 inches (joist to joist) if there ain't a joist beside the top plate of the wall then you can nail cross members yourself. But houses aren't framed with cross members. You may read books about construction but I work construction as an electrician so your all talk. Lol I love how you use contact cement to glue 2 pieces of wood together I actually laughed at the fact you sounded so smart by saying how you used contact cement. Too funny
Borat We use contact cement to glue the trim cross-members to the ceiling surface, not to the main runners, rookie. I've been doing trim work for 50 years and don't need an electrician with no structural construction experience to give carpentry advice. Especially from someone who does not know that joists are 16" apart, not 12". Please stay in your area of experience... It is NOT carpentry...
Porsche924Tim Like i said I am an electrician, but I keep an open mind in regards to other trades so I am constantly learning new things. sounds like you are a bit jealous of my chosen trade and you're harassing me because of it.
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Yes you can , instead using nail to attach board u will need to use concrete crews . To use it u have to pre drill holes with diamond drill bit - good luck
Some people with concrete ceiling will install a false ceiling of plywood or drywall and mount it. Then im sure you can do aomething like this a lot easier then drilling through concrete for every board
The only proper way to do so it’s raise the house from foundation and add height to your foundation walls , never done it seen tons of times , same procedures goes when some one decide to do full basement in old house instead a crawl space
Please, know that we do not need the music playing so loud over your voice. We have our own choice of music playing while watching your videos if we want. Music is too much of a distraction. Your instrustions are perfect for us to star our project. Thank you! 😄
Not trying to sound like a troll, but This Old House has not aged well (pun intended). Both the TV show, and most of their videos are not well done. There are so many other content providers on RUclips that offer amazing work, especially on this topic (finish carpentry), such as Finish Carpentry TV, Home RenoVision DIY, Jared Turner, Fix This Build That, and many more. These videos are all the same: too fast, little to no valuable detail, and often outdated methods. My reaction after watching This Old House is almost always the same: meh... A five minute video on coffered ceilings? Come on This Old House, you can do better.
wurly164 Wood glue does not stick to primed surfaces, wood glue adheres wood to wood, nothing else. A simple google search can tell you that much. Also brad nails have no head so they can pull out easily that’s why they are almost never used alone. As for the caulk it depends on the type, it is a decorative trim so it should stay. But this video give the wrong message of function for these important woodworking tools.
wurly164 “it is a decorative trim so it should stay. But this video gives the wrong message of function for these important woodworking tools.” The point isn’t that it holds, you could put double sided tape on the back of it and it would hold. The point is that it’s an instructional video that instructs you to improperly use those materials.
@@Saltytrout18 being a woodworker myself I understand but just being trim it would be ok, if it was structured then you want bare wood on wood, but in this case I give it a pass, the caulk alone will guarantee its going no where
Greetings This Old House, Great presentation! How do you make a ceiling single coffer box with gutter like molding and insert battery operated lights? I thank you for a reply soon! Have a great day! Paz et Amor "PASTORJOEY4U!"
Sorry to say it, but this has to be the absolute worst carpentry skills Ive ever seen lol.. not to mention, theres no depth. Couple years, that will gap like crazy.
I recently was home shopping & with the influx of home flippers out there, I spent many moments cringing.... They’d be a nice 60’s ranch, one owner before some diy flipper for their hands on it and with a bucket of paint and other assorted Home Depot weapons, completely destroy the space. I saw beautiful original wood clapboards painted, stone fireplaces, hard wood floors, wood beams, etc... And GREY - everrrrrywhere. I just started referring to them as “greyed out.”
I will be showing this video to my dad. Let's see what he says. I really want this done in my house....
It won’t be long before this guy has a brad nail sticking through his thumb with that technique
oli bone meh. You’re not a real finish carpenter if you have been stung by a brad nail.😂
I just sent this to my guy! This would be perfect in...... pretty much every room in my house!! haha But I'm renovating my art studio/second bedroom. It's screaming for something special. But leaving it white, which I see so often with this and Board and Baton etc is such a waste of creativity imho! I'm living in the wrong era apparently!
I would faux fini all the beams to look like dark walnut. Then I would do an aged faux effect on the interior of each square as my base with a bold colour and several lighter glazes to give it a softer, cloudy aged look. I would dry bush some muted bronze on the interior mouldings so they stand out a bit.
Then in the interior of the squares, I would choose a few from an array of gorgeous 2 foot by 2 foot stencils I have. I would first use plaster to give it an embossed look. Once dry and lightly sanded, I would put the stencils back on and go to town, dry brushing/stippling muted colours so it appears to be aged and faded. And adding gold foil on accents, then mute them.
I recently did the stencil work on my kitchen ceiling without the wood coffering and it's stunning! But traditionally these paintings belong on coffered ceilings so it's all framed and rather ornate. Depending on what techniques are used and materials, it could look anywhere from rustic, old world to subtle and soft or very ornate. Metallic paints really add a layer of glamour and were very popular up until about 100 years ago. Then everyone became rather boring and white plain ceilings became the norm sadly.
This style of ceiling would go great almost anywhere, in any style of house, including new but certainly historic homes like Victorian, Second Empire, Tudor Italianate etc. Another really lovely choice, though can be rather costly are tin panels, even faux tin if they are good quality. Or Lincrusta, which I LOVE, though that's expensive and a tad tricky to install. The possibilities are endless. Even just choosing nice contrasting colours would be such a better choice that all white or all any colour. It's like going to the expense of installing wall mouldings beautiful crown mouldings and painting them all white. All those stunning details get lost in a sea of nothingness. People are so scared of colour these days and a little creativity!! Especially on the ceiling! I'm sure many don't agree, like I said, I am from a different era. No matter what, those coffered ceilings are gorgeous!! I hope I can talk my friend into giving me a hand to put them up but one room will never be enough!!! haha Rustic faux or real beams are gorgeous too!!!
This confirmed that I will not be attempting this myself. Thanks!
Thanks for solving my kitchen ceiling issue. Much easier and less costly time wise than full covered ceiling.
Thanks, T.O.H.! Great vid with clear and easy to understand steps. One recommendation, if I may. About the 3:45 mark or so, where you're toenailing the cross pieces into the main beams, it is NEVER a good idea to have your thumb (or any finger) anywhere close to the nail path of that air nailer. You WILL "eventually" find a board whose grain causes the nail to deflect outward instead of along the intended straight path into the 'meat' of the wood. Having your finger in that path results in your finger 'meat' having a very painful 'meeting' of its own with that nail! Friendly tip from one who has had a 'meeting' or two with a air-driven finish nail.
i was cringing at that moment.
This comment 😂
And *SAFETY GLASSES* 👓
Great inspiration and easy to follow instructions. Thank you for sharing.
This is a great solution for those who would like a coffered ceiling but don't have high ceilings to go the traditional full beam coffered ceiling style. I think I may do this in my living room to give it a bit more elegance. As soon as I pull all the faux wood paneling off the walls and replace it with drywall :( That wood paneling is kind of taking away from the elegance factor!
My father left the paneling up, filled and smoothed the recesses with joint compound, sanded, and painted. You will need to a tape and compound the dry wall joints anyway. Plus even with the paneling off well you could use the really really thin dry wall I guess. This was much easier for him to do it looked amazing and we didn't lose any Room so to speak because the paneling is much thinner than Half inch dry wall. Good luck. It was definitely the better way to go for our family
@@overcomer4226 I just did as adviced and the result was amazing! 😄👍 I added a bit of texture then knocked it down. It saved me a ton of money and time. The only issue is I forgot to tape where the panels meet. You think I'll get cracking overtime?
Very nice. Just what I was looking for.
The look of FEAR in his face when the nailer shoots........
How to make the “dead man”: 1:05
2 by 3 scrap lumber and make it ¾ inch shorter than the ceiling.
looks good i prefer to have thicker beams to bring out the design more
I'm i just being stupid i can't see how the marking of the scribe line at 2:00 mins would work.. one of the pencil marks was made on the piece already nailed to the ceiling.
Tuned In I think that's to measure how much to cut on the wood not the ceiling piece.
Thanks so much
Ah yes, the Homer Simpson method of squinting your eyes while using power tools ;)
That’s absolutely hilarious!!!
🤣 my thoughts exactly- even when not using the nail gun, one would think he’d have safety glasses on because there’s always bits of debris falling away from above as you are craning your neck to look above yourself
You make it look easy
On the shorter cross members where there are no ceiling joists for nailing... we have used contact cement with success. It takes a bit longer, but it makes a very secure bond to the ceiling. Just be sure you get EXACT placement right the first time... there is no adjusting once the two cement surfaces contact.
does it matter lol, as long as he nails into a joist it doesn't matter if he uses contact cement or not.
Borat Yeah... it does matter. The joists run one way so you can nail into the main runners or cross members... not both. LOL... buy a book on basic construction... and a can of contact cement.
Porsche924Tim cross runners in between joists? Uhm no such thing. Your either nailing along a joist or every 12 inches (joist to joist) if there ain't a joist beside the top plate of the wall then you can nail cross members yourself. But houses aren't framed with cross members. You may read books about construction but I work construction as an electrician so your all talk. Lol I love how you use contact cement to glue 2 pieces of wood together I actually laughed at the fact you sounded so smart by saying how you used contact cement. Too funny
Borat We use contact cement to glue the trim cross-members to the ceiling surface, not to the main runners, rookie. I've been doing trim work for 50 years and don't need an electrician with no structural construction experience to give carpentry advice. Especially from someone who does not know that joists are 16" apart, not 12". Please stay in your area of experience... It is NOT carpentry...
Porsche924Tim
Like i said I am an electrician, but I keep an open mind in regards to other trades so I am constantly learning new things. sounds like you are a bit jealous of my chosen trade and you're harassing me because of it.
We have popcorn ceiling ... I would love to do something like this to cover it up. Wouldn't screw hold better than nails?
Hi! Can this be installed if you have already have crown moulding?
Nice video. I love your channel. But I have 1 remark. The safety glasses shouldn't be on the pocket :)
No mention of coping the ends of the inside molding pieces to get a tight fit? I would assume that they go up just like really small crown molding...
No point in coping that tiny trim, especially if you are doing paint-grade molding. Just miter-cut it.
I lost it when he mentioned "catching wood" haha
Watched this a few times and still lost on the scribe line method they are using in the beginning. Anyone get a handle on this?
I was stuck too. I just got it. You measure the distance of the 2nd mark to end of the board and transfer that to your board making a scribe line
Beautiful
I can't watch this without my safety glasses
Make sure it’s square or your miter cuts will be more difficult to do
You sire are a coffered god.
the music is relentless over his voice, grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!
if youre not careful it will be coffin ceiling
Ah yes, the age old squinting technique.
Yeah...that oughta keep those flier nails off your eyeballs.........
Looks good, but I've got no balance on ladders or scaffolding what so ever.
Safety glasses?
Couldn't you just box those out? Or would that be structurally unsound?
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at 3:28, I feel like he's saying "rafter square" but I can't help hearing it as "raptor square"
Kyle McNicoll Lmfao I thought the same
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Did I miss the joke when he said "cut the beam about one quarter inch too long"? (1:25)
Where can I get the wood beams?
Home Depot?
No safety glasses and driving nails through while holding with fingers….😮 I’ve had many nails go in and out sideways
My ceiling is the concrete,
¿can I install this in my home??
Ana Ordóñez no
Yes you can , instead using nail to attach board u will need to use concrete crews . To use it u have to pre drill holes with diamond drill bit - good luck
Some people with concrete ceiling will install a false ceiling of plywood or drywall and mount it. Then im sure you can do aomething like this a lot easier then drilling through concrete for every board
How to raise the ceiling up in the basement ? 🤔🤔
just raise your floor.
Next!
lol
The only proper way to do so it’s raise the house from foundation and add height to your foundation walls , never done it seen tons of times , same procedures goes when some one decide to do full basement in old house instead a crawl space
👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Good video. Better without annoying, jittery music.
You did not wear goggles.....haha
sunchaser w - He wasn't snorkeling 😆
what is the width of the beam?
details, details, just go grab you some random wood like this guy did and glue it the hell up there!
Looks like 2 x 6.
Your tips is very good, apreciate, but your finger very, very near in the gun......
I would have made the ceiling smooth first. But that just me.
D C Yeah that’s just you. Would be an entire waste of time
I assume this was for a client and if the client doesn't want to pay for that service then you complete the job without doing that.
A quarter inch long ? That's going to destroy your drywall
Good instructional video, but the music is very distracting...would love to have instructional videos with NO background music. But, still
thank you.
It's absolutely horrid. Almost insufferable at that obnoxious and annoying volume.
Woodglut is nice for that.
Please, know that we do not need the music playing so loud over your voice. We have our own choice of music playing while watching your videos if we want. Music is too much of a distraction. Your instrustions are perfect for us to star our project. Thank you! 😄
Very rough work !
It's very distracting trying to listen to you as the annoying music is playing while you're talking....
I heard very good opinions about the Woodglut plans.
That's a paneled ceiling
Not trying to sound like a troll, but This Old House has not aged well (pun intended). Both the TV show, and most of their videos are not well done. There are so many other content providers on RUclips that offer amazing work, especially on this topic (finish carpentry), such as Finish Carpentry TV, Home RenoVision DIY, Jared Turner, Fix This Build That, and many more. These videos are all the same: too fast, little to no valuable detail, and often outdated methods. My reaction after watching This Old House is almost always the same: meh... A five minute video on coffered ceilings? Come on This Old House, you can do better.
Um. Wood glue won’t stick to painted surfaces, so that crown molding is really only being held on by brad nails and caulk.
Georgia Jory the wood is only primed so it will grab. Plus the nails and then the caulk, it’s not going anywhere
wurly164 Wood glue does not stick to primed surfaces, wood glue adheres wood to wood, nothing else. A simple google search can tell you that much. Also brad nails have no head so they can pull out easily that’s why they are almost never used alone. As for the caulk it depends on the type, it is a decorative trim so it should stay. But this video give the wrong message of function for these important woodworking tools.
@@Saltytrout18 and yet it holds......
wurly164 “it is a decorative trim so it should stay. But this video gives the wrong message of function for these important woodworking tools.” The point isn’t that it holds, you could put double sided tape on the back of it and it would hold. The point is that it’s an instructional video that instructs you to improperly use those materials.
@@Saltytrout18 being a woodworker myself I understand but just being trim it would be ok, if it was structured then you want bare wood on wood, but in this case I give it a pass, the caulk alone will guarantee its going no where
3:48 CREEPY THUMB
I cringed, but he moved it in time.
I cannot believe this is the example they use for this type of ceiling. Wow looks terrible
I agree. 🤦♂️
A low profiled design like that is actually a paneled ceiling, not a coffered ceiling. The title line is misleading.
I am NOT a fan. This old House is only this old House with the original cast. The new format is not appealing to me whatsoever.
Greetings This Old House,
Great presentation!
How do you make a ceiling single coffer box with gutter like molding and insert battery operated lights?
I thank you for a reply soon! Have a great day!
Paz et Amor
"PASTORJOEY4U!"
Sorry to say it, but this has to be the absolute worst carpentry skills Ive ever seen lol.. not to mention, theres no depth. Couple years, that will gap like crazy.
sure doesn't seem TOH worthy! kind of a poor mans TOH, maybe call it this old shack.
Sloppy and cheap job..
Why does everyone paint everything? It looks cheap.
I recently was home shopping & with the influx of home flippers out there, I spent many moments cringing....
They’d be a nice 60’s ranch, one owner before some diy flipper for their hands on it and with a bucket of paint and other assorted Home Depot weapons, completely destroy the space. I saw beautiful original wood clapboards painted, stone fireplaces, hard wood floors, wood beams, etc...
And GREY - everrrrrywhere.
I just started referring to them as “greyed out.”