For all you guys why veenus is so good in the game because he came from league of legends game and guess what he is former top 2 challenger rank here in Philippines not a joke tier and also btw he plays a lot of this game in a tournament mode
i think wise, vee and h2wo were former challengers in league. I am not entirely sure tho, hence why i said "i think", if its wrong feel free to correct it.
Veenus made that decision to perfectly catch the backlines. Because the enemy shot calls that "wise(jungler) is dead let's take lord" not knowing that vee was plaaning for a flank. What a perfect shot call for vee
Thats the most unexpected flank that i ever witnessed even even euphoria didnt know that blacklist is gonna flank in the backline its just unfortunate to euphoria they did nothing wrong cause its a normal response if you kill the enemy jungles you burst the lord
They instinctively flank the carries upon the collapse on wise, if you look at 1:49 the mage and marksman is out of position and their front line is way at the back near the lord resulting in dead carries and spooked frontline. Vee's shot calling is sight to behold
It was actually a bait call from blacklist. Given that wise is a tank jungler. Forcing the enemy to use almost all of their ultimates and focusing to take him down. That gives blacklist an opening for a conceal play coming from the back targeting the squishy heroes of the enemy without ultimates. Plus the late appearance of Oheb on the otherside giving the enemy a hard way out and closing the game. So yeah! It is an absolute insanity from veenus to shotcall that play with a very minimal amount of time and a risky one too. 😄
@@deograciasbautista3607 I'm not an expert but if you look at how Wise turns to the bush, knowing the enemy's just around and then stays there? Gosh, that's a bait. Just look how the other members place themselves to clash the enemy. If it's just some coincidence, then lucky them. But I strongly believe this is how Venus' brain works 🤔
Simply because it is blacklist, they know each other well since they've been the main five for a year now so they trust everyone with their in-game life hehehe
I don't think they let that happen, but the shotcall maybe was initiated by wise, he's the one who knows how many ults were thrown at him and let veenus decide whether to counter-initiate or not.
They expended alot of skills just killing wise skills are on cooldown on the enemy side its a common call especially for pro players that are aware of enemies cooldown timers.
as you can see all of the resources of the enemy was gone because they use it just to kill wise that's the reason why ohmyvee and wise shotcall their team in that way
perfect counter play. they've used their skills to Wise, then cecilion and beatrix was in the open and out of position to fight thats why they go for the counter play. Its 5 vs 4. But no way cecilion and beatrix with fight headon. So not a risky play if your basis is just 4v5
Wasting 4 ults on only 1 player, no matter how tanky that hero is, is just a wrong move. Knowing that BLCK is still complete. That 5 v 1 play is already disadvantageous enough to Wise so why use 4 ults to secure the kill? It's a bait. Wise was a bait. V33nus predicted that if they use Wise as bait they would waste their ults. Because killing Wise would give EUPH advantage in getting the Lord seeing EUPH was off straight to Lord after the kill but wasn't able to because BLCK was already ganking them. As per BLCK, they are just waiting for the enemy team to make a mistake so they can use that as a way to win.
spot on explanation ✨✨ that is what makes this tanky jungler meta so interesting bcs the opponent team is forced to burst and burn their skills on the retri holder and left vulnerable against the rest
Yes! I still think that wise baited them. Knowing how wide play for so long he's the most patient and safest jungler because he really play safe especially in Lord of turtle fight but I was wondering why he do that but I think it was planned all along by wise. There's this live where veenus said that wise is the best on baiting the enemy that's why I think it was wises's call followed up by veenus
No. Veenus is the shotcaller, Hadji gives information to the team since he can check the bushes. After that, Vee makes a plan to initiate or counter-initiate. Only the captain calls the shot. And it is evident on Hadji's live before that their shotcaller was Veenus
@cdmmyeah agree. all of them are roleplayers and gives info in every minute of the game. comms is what blck has mastered. but i think whenever they are in a position that they need to set team fights or reclaim the momentum especially macro, venus still got the final calls. This is why it would be interesting to hear more of their comms in game (just like in their mission episodes) we get to see how professional and meticulous these players are
Epic... I think they learned bating really from btk in m3.. Rem Game 1 when btk would force a fake clash to get vee in his yve to use RWM.... Ever since M3 BLCK has had many variations of baiting.... They use ... Lord Turlte even themselves...
Lol! Baiting is normal in PH even before M3. Dunno why BTK fans trying to take credit on that same way Indonesian fans want to grab credits on everything. BTK even went to PH to spy on our meta.
That btk lose really humbled them and they took it in a positive way (literally crawled their way to the top) but this baiting game is already a thing in mpl ph ever since but it is more prominent from blacklist since they are objective-centered. They didn't learn it from btk, they were surprised bcs btk also knows how to bait bcs other regions are not as objective type as much as ph meta (atleast from s7 to present).
tama kasi sobrang laki ng lamang ng blck sa gold tas inubos nila ult nila kay wise, eh knowing blck d sila papayag na walang bawi ayon nadiretso hanggang main base
it was actually a normal response to burst if you see the opponent's retri holder alone, but blck (which are more experienced obv) knows this already that's why they took advantage of it. But if theyre not facing any veteran team, euphoria's game is really great.
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Wise was trying to get flank but got caught. Burned a bunch of shit and their whole team was up levels and items. Plus there was nothing to trade back given the state of the minions and all towers being down. This was just simply a standard pro play play. It wasnt too spectacular. They got a jump on the backline and the fight is won they only lost their tank. Blacklist is dam good but you guys are overpraising them.
I'm sure you are from a server which the players aren't that competitive or you are just a player with a maximum rank of epic to low points mythic. That's literally Pro Scene, not your typical Rank game.
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For all you guys why veenus is so good in the game because he came from league of legends game and guess what he is former top 2 challenger rank here in Philippines not a joke tier and also btw he plays a lot of this game in a tournament mode
he said in an interview that he had around 15k matches in moba games
@@hzsid8733 that was insane
Oh thx captain obvious I didn’t know pro players are playing more in tournament than other players.
Sana may clips ng paglalaro ni Vee noon.
i think wise, vee and h2wo were former challengers in league. I am not entirely sure tho, hence why i said "i think", if its wrong feel free to correct it.
Veenus made that decision to perfectly catch the backlines. Because the enemy shot calls that "wise(jungler) is dead let's take lord" not knowing that vee was plaaning for a flank. What a perfect shot call for vee
Thats the most unexpected flank that i ever witnessed even even euphoria didnt know that blacklist is gonna flank in the backline its just unfortunate to euphoria they did nothing wrong cause its a normal response if you kill the enemy jungles you burst the lord
Uh let's take lord 5v4 but we're all level 11-12 and the enemy team is mostly level 14 and we're 7k gold behind.
exactly@@popolekupasupport2246
I think Wise was baiting all of them to follow him towards V33 but didn't realize that everyone would be there at once to burst him down
Yessss
They instinctively flank the carries upon the collapse on wise, if you look at 1:49 the mage and marksman is out of position and their front line is way at the back near the lord resulting in dead carries and spooked frontline. Vee's shot calling is sight to behold
It was actually a bait call from blacklist. Given that wise is a tank jungler. Forcing the enemy to use almost all of their ultimates and focusing to take him down. That gives blacklist an opening for a conceal play coming from the back targeting the squishy heroes of the enemy without ultimates. Plus the late appearance of Oheb on the otherside giving the enemy a hard way out and closing the game.
So yeah! It is an absolute insanity from veenus to shotcall that play with a very minimal amount of time and a risky one too. 😄
No. Wise was caught off-guard but since a lot of enemy ults and skills were used, the shotcall was to counter initiate which was smart from Veenus.
@@deograciasbautista3607 I'm not an expert but if you look at how Wise turns to the bush, knowing the enemy's just around and then stays there? Gosh, that's a bait. Just look how the other members place themselves to clash the enemy. If it's just some coincidence, then lucky them. But I strongly believe this is how Venus' brain works 🤔
@UCKulTuQfVvaIuJyhfIgprgA This is the most detailed explanation I've seen. Thank you for that
@@deograciasbautista3607 nope.
@@iishamouri exactly! He just walks on the enemy line like nothing 🤣.
They were ahead by 2 lvls, they knew they had the upperhand against them + the skills they burned against Wise is perfect to go for a clash
same thoughts
Blacklist main 5 is so fun to watch. If they stay together i think they’ll get more than 5 international titles.
I agree
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Simply because it is blacklist, they know each other well since they've been the main five for a year now so they trust everyone with their in-game life hehehe
they made them use their ults on wise so they won't be able to fight back when they ganked them
exactly, that was pretty smart by v33nus
@@bruhbro1181 still risky cuz they were outnumbered but blacklist went on the backline and got 3 soo good
I don't think they let that happen, but the shotcall maybe was initiated by wise, he's the one who knows how many ults were thrown at him and let veenus decide whether to counter-initiate or not.
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Imagine Mirko shout casting that play!
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They expended alot of skills just killing wise skills are on cooldown on the enemy side its a common call especially for pro players that are aware of enemies cooldown timers.
I am from indo. we all indo have to confess that vennus is the smartest moba player in the world so far.
Ever heard of Team OG in dota 2? Yeah.
@@zephyrus2870 reading comprehension bro
@@Lynx-ns5xf Do you know what is MOBA? Vocabulary bro, check the meaning of MOBA.
If u say in mlbb. Yeah sure, but in moba?
Only mlbb
@@underrated9623 yeah. In mlbb. Not in moba, the comment say moba player. Not mlbb player because moba included lol, dota 2, etc.
Its simple coz they make a shotcall since the enemies skills were cooldown and the enemies cant no longer kill. They gave all their skills to wise.
as you can see all of the resources of the enemy was gone because they use it just to kill wise that's the reason why ohmyvee and wise shotcall their team in that way
He knew they were waaayyyy ahead in gold that time so the 4v5 was actually winnable
perfect counter play. they've used their skills to Wise, then cecilion and beatrix was in the open and out of position to fight thats why they go for the counter play. Its 5 vs 4. But no way cecilion and beatrix with fight headon. So not a risky play if your basis is just 4v5
It’s a 3v5 play actually as Bruno is still not on the area when they took down cecilion and beatrix
Venus shot call was banzai!!!
Wasting 4 ults on only 1 player, no matter how tanky that hero is, is just a wrong move. Knowing that BLCK is still complete. That 5 v 1 play is already disadvantageous enough to Wise so why use 4 ults to secure the kill? It's a bait. Wise was a bait. V33nus predicted that if they use Wise as bait they would waste their ults. Because killing Wise would give EUPH advantage in getting the Lord seeing EUPH was off straight to Lord after the kill but wasn't able to because BLCK was already ganking them. As per BLCK, they are just waiting for the enemy team to make a mistake so they can use that as a way to win.
it was not just one tanky hero its the jungler with the lord just spawned.
@@alfredcordita4490 yah agree
spot on explanation ✨✨ that is what makes this tanky jungler meta so interesting bcs the opponent team is forced to burst and burn their skills on the retri holder and left vulnerable against the rest
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it's simple because they know that the opponent has already used their ulti so they can really enter
Snipe can you make a video op mpl pH S10 all team lineup
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Wise baited. And then they backstabbed the mage & mm. While the others cant clear minion fast. So they took the advantage by pushing all out. EZ
Yes! I still think that wise baited them. Knowing how wide play for so long he's the most patient and safest jungler because he really play safe especially in Lord of turtle fight but I was wondering why he do that but I think it was planned all along by wise. There's this live where veenus said that wise is the best on baiting the enemy that's why I think it was wises's call followed up by veenus
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Kahit ako kateam mate ni vee di ako maniniwala sa shot call , pero mukhang sadya yun bait ni wise . Iba mga utak nila hahaha
They're praising veenus but in SEA Games hadji is the shot caller.💀
No. Veenus is the shotcaller, Hadji gives information to the team since he can check the bushes. After that, Vee makes a plan to initiate or counter-initiate. Only the captain calls the shot. And it is evident on Hadji's live before that their shotcaller was Veenus
Lol patawa ka si vee shotcaller nila, bano ka boi
Sipag mo ah hater ng BLCK 24/7 keep it up 🤩
@cdmmyeah agree. all of them are roleplayers and gives info in every minute of the game. comms is what blck has mastered. but i think whenever they are in a position that they need to set team fights or reclaim the momentum especially macro, venus still got the final calls. This is why it would be interesting to hear more of their comms in game (just like in their mission episodes) we get to see how professional and meticulous these players are
Kung si hadji shotcaller sa sea games baka di sila nanalo 😂 tingnan mo s13, sobrang palo magshotcall top 6 sila 😂
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Epic... I think they learned bating really from btk in m3.. Rem Game 1 when btk would force a fake clash to get vee in his yve to use RWM.... Ever since M3 BLCK has had many variations of baiting.... They use ...
Lord
Turlte
even themselves...
Lol! Baiting is normal in PH even before M3. Dunno why BTK fans trying to take credit on that same way Indonesian fans want to grab credits on everything. BTK even went to PH to spy on our meta.
That btk lose really humbled them and they took it in a positive way (literally crawled their way to the top) but this baiting game is already a thing in mpl ph ever since but it is more prominent from blacklist since they are objective-centered. They didn't learn it from btk, they were surprised bcs btk also knows how to bait bcs other regions are not as objective type as much as ph meta (atleast from s7 to present).
I mean they're champions :)
wrong decision for euphoria....
Di rin.. sakto lang ung ginawa nila. Sadyang mabilis lang talaga magshotcall blacklist.
That was a good play tho by euphoria. But the thing is that, they are facing blacklist. 🤷
tama kasi sobrang laki ng lamang ng blck sa gold tas inubos nila ult nila kay wise, eh knowing blck d sila papayag na walang bawi ayon nadiretso hanggang main base
it was actually a normal response to burst if you see the opponent's retri holder alone, but blck (which are more experienced obv) knows this already that's why they took advantage of it. But if theyre not facing any veteran team, euphoria's game is really great.
First
? over exaggerated ngl
their just responding that's simply it
You couldn't believe but ur team could not defeat PH ur so insane HAHAHA
Lol it was 4vs 2 with that call..
Its a bait...
madali lang mag ml counter lang yan
Is vee a Girl or a boy? Im confused because of you are using He and Momshoe at the same tine
He's gay. He uses pronouns he/him but doesn't mind if he will be referred to as she/her
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@@unless9161 ah indog pala, diko kilala eh di ko naman pinagjajakolan mga caster ng indo kagaya pag pantasya mo sa kanila. Oops pwera nalang kung dinidilaan mo screen ng cp mo habang pinapanood mo yan mirko mo. Ok ba madam? 😂😂😂
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Wala kanang pake dun..
Wise was trying to get flank but got caught. Burned a bunch of shit and their whole team was up levels and items. Plus there was nothing to trade back given the state of the minions and all towers being down. This was just simply a standard pro play play. It wasnt too spectacular. They got a jump on the backline and the fight is won they only lost their tank. Blacklist is dam good but you guys are overpraising them.
that's not insane bro, freakin normal play you just overreacting.
100% peak rank is master 3
I'm sure you are from a server which the players aren't that competitive or you are just a player with a maximum rank of epic to low points mythic. That's literally Pro Scene, not your typical Rank game.
lol if you were on veenus' situation you're not gonna think of that shotcall/play bro
oh so you're a pro player now? 😃😃😃
Oh after looking at that guy's acc. It seems like he is a fan of that overrated team who's not able to go in finals. Explains why he is like that.