As a teenager in the late 70's & early 80's I loved helping a neighbor running his 186 Hydro pulling a 20' Versatile swather cutting barley and wheat in the Red River Valley. I also helped a little while running his 1586 with fall/ spring tillage. The best part for me was the sweet radio. Made life great, listening to tunes, listening to baseball or football games, and planning (in my head no cell phones of course) our night out on the town.
IH is still around. When it split up, Tenneco bought the ag part and the rest became Navistar International. Tenneco also owned Case and merged the two into Case IH. At the time of merger, it was Case body, IH colors (which is my favorite era of IH from a design stand point). Now it's still IH colors, but modern design. Hell, in 2003, they brought back Farmall
When my dad was pricing a new tractor the IH dealer brought out a 1086 with a cab to demo....dad was a little cheap and went with a JD 4430 with no cab....ugh....I love JD but wanted a cab so bad . But the good news is within 4 years we increased our acreage by 3x and bought 4430 , 4640 both with cabs and a 7520 ...what a powerhouse that was .
@@MrJohndeere3720 ...bad thing about the 7520 was the cab ...a/c hardly ever worked and had a high tech fender mount type AM radio..lol Driving it down the road one day at full speed the steering just decided to go right..took it right down into a 8 ft deep ditch ...drove it back out but was shaken up ...I guess it was a common problem that the big cylinders in the center had to be rebuilt ....but man could that thing pull
@@RJ1999x ...It was a puller , but we using mostly tractors 125 hp or less until we bought the 7520 so it was a beast compared to those . We went with a 9300 after using the 7520 for over 20 years , we definitely got our money's worth .
These 86 series tractors are awesome. We have a 1486 and just this year changed the original 12 gallon hydraulic pump out for a 17 gallon since the original one was worn out. We have had a 986 this 1486 and a 1586 in the history of the farm. There's tons of stories with these! One of the last good tractors ever built.
I was 6 years old the day that my dad brought home the brand new 1979 - 1586...I was so excited that the kindergarten bus driver had to tell me to sit for 10 full seconds when I saw it down our driveway because I was about to jump out of my seat to run down the driveway to sit in the cab... I slept...many hours behind that seat on the deck.. with my dad behind the wheel... my Mom was a nurse and worked so when I got off the kindergarten bus at 11:00am it was Dad and Son time after that...
Jared Gillett nice. :) i'd like 2 get a 1586. there the best ih tractors in the world.. when i started helping my friend i was 7 years old. soon after he started telling me how 2 drive his ih 1256. he no longer has it, he got a ih 986.
My dad still has a 986 that he brought brand new and I too logged many an hour sleeping on that back deck while cutting and baling hay and discing ground.
The hydro 186 was ahead of its time. It had a nasty hydrostatic whine to it. Today Fendt, Deere, CaseIH all have an updated version of the Sundstrand/ Saure design.
I'm not an IH fan but I will say the 1206 is a damn sharp looking tractor. The driver forward ahead of the rear axle is credited here to 1086 or 86 series. Glad to see IH did contribute something beneficial to the tractor market in it's final days.
Grandpa bought a brand new 1086 in 1978! WOW we thought had the world by the tale😂 loved that tractor! He retired in 1983 and local guy bought it just sold it in 2018! Got 13000 for it! All them old tractors had there own personality now the new ones seem all the same!
I was 13 in 1979 when my dad bought a brand new 1086. Our very first quiet cab with ac. It was like sitting in a Cadillac. The 86 series were a vast improvement from the previous 66 series in almost every way with a few exceptions: On the 86 series the batteries were not in an easily accessible place but were secured well and out of the way. They should have made the doors open to the front for easier access to the cab. If you had to remove the starter you had to take out the floor mat in the cab and a steel plate on the floor. A special wrench to remove the starter bolts was available. The starter was very difficult to service. The TA lever had that goofy spring loaded mechanism that made it difficult to operate smoothly. On the plus side putting the muffler under the hood was genius, leaving only the stack above the hood. The hydraulic assisted clutch was awesome (I think our 1066 also had that). We're mostly JD now and I don't know why other companies don't use that. With that short wheel base it was the best tractor I've ever owned for blowing snow lol. Even with the short wheel base it was balanced very well and could lift considerably more than our 5088 without weights on either tractor. When I traded the 1086 sometime in the mid to later 90s it had over 9000 hours and hadn't had an overhaul. I think IH had a very, very good engine which was quite efficient as well. If they could have hung on another year and introduced the new Magnum series (which was IH's design) they would have made it. The Magnum was head and shoulders above every other tractor of it's time when it was introduced in about 1987??? On a side note, how many others here have noticed how much the radios and cheap @#$%ing speakers they put in the tractors today just suck?
Speaking as a guy who has spent thousands of hours on IHC tractors, the cab was guiet and roomy and didn't have that big join in the middle of the windscreen like JD. Moving the cab forward was a mistake ,very rough ride on 86 series combined with short wheel base and you couldn't see the drawbar easily. The 66 series rode smoothly and had fuel tank behind engine which also reduced engine noise and heat . JD , WHITE ,FORD, IHC ,MASSEY WERE ALL GREAT MACHINES IN THOSE DAYS ,NOT PLASTIC UGLY COMPUTERIZED JUNK LIKE NOW ,IMHO.
they said in the vid that Moving the cab forward would give it a better ride. so its funny hearing about that. but not every1 liked it.. tractors nowadays r a joke.. the older 1's were made out of steel NOT PLASTIC. thats i want with an older ih tractor.. THATS A REAL TRACTOR!
One particular thing I liked about the 86 series was the self cleaning cab filter ,when you closed the door it would self purge, I have noticed that the caseih tractors have gone back to a filter under the cab where all the dust accumulates ,duh.I think the 86 series were good solid machines and reliable and later 88 series as well ,I drove a 5088 for some time and loved it,those Inter diesels were great .Thank you for posting these videos, kind regards.
ya that self cleaning cab filter was a very cool thing. they should have stayed with that... o man those 88 series r sweat. i want 2 buy 1 as well. :) ur very welcome. :)
I was brought up with the 4010,4020 jd ,but the oh my friends had had a big v8 with twin stacks,they used it for chopping and moldboard plowing,but it sure sounded good . You could hear them start it a mile away.
That cab forward thing only works if the wheelbase is long. Unfortunately the 86 series had too short of a wheelbase so you'd end up with back fatigue by the end of the day.
Wonderful machine grandpa bought one new and its still running only problem is it was the work horse so its got rust upon rust but thats just looks and the ac is shot but all together great 1086
That's right Jared. I have also slept many hours on the deck behind the seat on our 1486. Grandpa had a 14 and dad and I would mow hay for hours. grandpa sold his 1486 and we missed it so much we had to buy another one. now we have one that's cranking 220 ponies and doesn't use a drop of oil.
Thanks for the post.......fun to watch an IH promo film. We had a 1586 and 1466....night and day tractor. Overall, the 1586 was a reliable tractor. We had about 9k hours when traded in. Solid motor and transmission.
That was really cool to watch. I myself am an IH fan. I don't have any of the big IH red tractors but I do have an IH Cub Cadet 129 hydrostatic and an IH Cub Lo-Boy 154. I love IH Cub Cadet and IH Cub Lo-Boys a lot
@@jeremycherny2041 o ok. Got mine at a small dealer/repair shop. 9500 hrs but the hour counter stopped working need to send it in. Paid 8K for the tractor then paid 900 to have it hauled to my farm.
I had a real nice looking 1486. The only trouble was it cost tens of thousands of dollars to keep it running. Engine camshaft went first two years later transmission and rear end went out. Had it all fixed by International Harvester dealer. It just costs too much to keep it running got rid of it and bought green.
My Dad got a new 1086 in 1979. Wow, what a difference between that and the 1066 that we also had. It was a very good tractor and had over 9000 hours with no major engine work done when I traded it. The 88 series tractors were a joke and dealt the final blow to IH. If they had made the right changes then, they might have survived. Such as: Making the transmission power-shift from gears 1-6 instead of only between 1&2, 3&4 and 5&6. Opening the doors to the front, the way they're supposed to. The forward air flow should NEVER have been done. The only improvements from the 86 to 88 series were a synchronized transmission, hydraulic clutch and tilt steering wheel.
66limelight ya they left some things out. my friend has a 986 & his son has a 1086,1566 & a 806. the doors on the 86 & the 88 series did open 2 the front just like ur car. its the 66 series cabed tractors where there doors open 2 the back. my friends 986 does not have tilt steering & it sucks 2 get in it.. thanks 4 watching :)
MrJohndeere, our definition of what is front opening and rear opening is different. Let's just say the 86 and following 88 series tractors should have had their doors open the same direction as the older 66 and the newer Magnums. We had a 5088 and IMO the only thing that was an improvement was the synchronized trans. But they should have made it a powershift from 1st to 6th gear. I think the 86 were better tractors.
Dairyfarmvids Because PTO horsepower is the closest thing to engine horsepower and its easy to figure and then produce a list of what it can run and show that off. Drawbar horsepower, there is a lot of variables, tire slip, soil type and condition, flat ground, hilly ground etc... those are fuel related costs and well, let's hide that part. Although they did start to label some that way.
I think PTO horsepower was the best measurement because some implements are very demanding on the PTO. The engine spec on a tractor doesn't mean dick when you lose through the gearing of the transmission, and if it is a 2wd or 4wd.
ya i dont no y they did not add the 686 & the 786, the 4186 is new 2 me, never seen 1, ill have 2 see if i can find some pixs. but ya im with u on that,
***** The 4186 was a giant 4WD tractor. It was an update of the earlier 4166. The 686 may not have been mentioned here because it was an update of the earlier 666 and didn't have the new "Pro-Ag" features such as the centralized operator's station etc.
The 686 tractors were treated in the same disregard by IH as the 2-70 tractors were treated by White. I always thought they both were the coolest of the lines.
The 786 to 1586 were "Big Framed " IH tractors (105" wheelbase) The smaller 686 was the final update of the earlier 656 and then 666 tractors. they were smaller tractors for smaller farms, not an inferior product, although they lacked some features of their bigger brothers.
I have ran both 1066 and 1086 tractors both were good tractors the bad thing about the 1086 was the cab always felt cramped up in the 1086 so with that I will take a 1066
After spending many hours in both 66 and 86 series my preference was the 66 hands down . 66 series easier access into and out of the cab and that damn fuel tank on the back sucked .
@@zinderkugelus6194 i completely agree with the fuel tank but with an aftermarket set of steps is 100 times better than the factory 86 steps for getting in & out
I have to say, as nice as it looked, and as comfortable as the cab seemed, the ride on my 986 was a complete disappointment and absolutely no match for my Cockshutt 1550 or 1850. I sold the 986 and never looked back.
i think the 86 series was their best looking tractor ti was a sharp looking tractor when it came out when the 88 series came out i was shocked at how ugly it was
I agree. The 66 Series & later 86 Series tractors had a strong stylish grille which gave them that umistakable IH look. The 88 Series had a strange "blanked off" grille styling which I have never really liked.
Racine was the home of J.I. Case. International Harvester was headquartered in Chicago, Illinois and the Farmall Works, where most tractors were built was in Rock Island, Illinois.
(Read in video's commentary's voice" Featuring a torque amplifier that will most certainly fail on a regular basis. Yes the dry clutch and wet brakes are a technological break threw in failure ridden technology. ( This is just for fun )
The reason the torque amplifier would fail is because people would not use them properly. I worked on them new and every idiot that used them to slow the tractor down will destroy the spag clutch in it.
@@billyuhlir3783 the first TAs would coast or freewheel on a downhill if you weren't working or pulling the later ones didn't I never tore one out the newer design must of had different guts in it
Dad bought a 1086 his first new tractor he said he fuckkn hated it but kept it for a long long time and had all case then went to John Deere he had a 1086 case 1175 and a 2390 then went to 4440 and a 4755. Now we have the same 4440 a 4430 4320 7600 and a new 7200R
wanted an 966 but MF 1105 was less money. 1105 was not close to Dad's 806 Farmall Both had 18.4 tires but the Farmall could handle 7 , 16 in plow while 1105 just 6.
@@larrymartin9620 what good is a tractor without a pto...lol mine has pretty much every thing u can think of.. there some things im going to add on with time..
@@damienskinner198 Well no, a lot of 6410s make it far past 10 000 hrs with almost no issues. The transmission is silky smooth, too, and I'd say more reliable. Every single 6010 and 7010 series I've driven has had 10 000+ hours with very few issues.
As a teenager in the late 70's & early 80's I loved helping a neighbor running his 186 Hydro pulling a 20' Versatile swather cutting barley and wheat in the Red River Valley. I also helped a little while running his 1586 with fall/ spring tillage. The best part for me was the sweet radio. Made life great, listening to tunes, listening to baseball or football games, and planning (in my head no cell phones of course) our night out on the town.
Same only my neighbor had a couple of 1066s,😊I enjoyed running them.
I miss IH so much. It was such a good brand
IH is still around. When it split up, Tenneco bought the ag part and the rest became Navistar International. Tenneco also owned Case and merged the two into Case IH. At the time of merger, it was Case body, IH colors (which is my favorite era of IH from a design stand point). Now it's still IH colors, but modern design. Hell, in 2003, they brought back Farmall
When my dad was pricing a new tractor the IH dealer brought out a 1086 with a cab to demo....dad was a little cheap and went with a JD 4430 with no cab....ugh....I love JD but wanted a cab so bad . But the good news is within 4 years we increased our acreage by 3x and bought 4430 , 4640 both with cabs and a 7520 ...what a powerhouse that was .
my friend has a 7020 deere, nice old girl. :)
@@MrJohndeere3720 ...bad thing about the 7520 was the cab ...a/c hardly ever worked and had a high tech fender mount type AM radio..lol
Driving it down the road one day at full speed the steering just decided to go right..took it right down into a 8 ft deep ditch ...drove it back out but was shaken up ...I guess it was a common problem that the big cylinders in the center had to be rebuilt ....but man could that thing pull
@@toledojeeper2932 the ac in that 7020 never worked..lol & the fender mount type AM radio was useless..lol but they did pull very well.. :)
you rarely see together 7520 and powerhouse
@@RJ1999x ...It was a puller , but we using mostly tractors 125 hp or less until we bought the 7520 so it was a beast compared to those . We went with a 9300 after using the 7520 for over 20 years , we definitely got our money's worth .
These 86 series tractors are awesome. We have a 1486 and just this year changed the original 12 gallon hydraulic pump out for a 17 gallon since the original one was worn out. We have had a 986 this 1486 and a 1586 in the history of the farm. There's tons of stories with these! One of the last good tractors ever built.
yes they are & thats why i have 1.. :) ya 1 day i'll have 2 upgrade mine as well.
I was 6 years old the day that my dad brought home the brand new 1979 - 1586...I was so excited that the kindergarten bus driver had to tell me to sit for 10 full seconds when I saw it down our driveway because I was about to jump out of my seat to run down the driveway to sit in the cab... I slept...many hours behind that seat on the deck.. with my dad behind the wheel... my Mom was a nurse and worked so when I got off the kindergarten bus at 11:00am it was Dad and Son time after that...
Jared Gillett nice. :) i'd like 2 get a 1586. there the best ih tractors in the world.. when i started helping my friend i was 7 years old. soon after he started telling me how 2 drive his ih 1256. he no longer has it, he got a ih 986.
Hey, I wasn't the only one to sleep back there. My mom even made me a tractor pillow to sleep on.
I want to get a 986 or a 886
Gauge Brady 986 1086 1486 series B
My dad still has a 986 that he brought brand new and I too logged many an hour sleeping on that back deck while cutting and baling hay and discing ground.
I bought a new 1086 in 1981, great tractor. It was comfortable, powerful and didn't guzzle fuel.
DONT say that 2 the deere lovers out there..HAHA they r nice tractors. i have a 1586 & i've been very happy with it.. a 1586 was my dream tractor..
The hydro 186 was ahead of its time. It had a nasty hydrostatic whine to it. Today Fendt, Deere, CaseIH all have an updated version of the Sundstrand/ Saure design.
it sure was.
I'm not an IH fan but I will say the 1206 is a damn sharp looking tractor. The driver forward ahead of the rear axle is credited here to 1086 or 86 series. Glad to see IH did contribute something beneficial to the tractor market in it's final days.
the 1206 r damn good tractor. i'd like 1.. i have a ih 1586 & its a damn good tractor.. ya it is nice 2 see that.
Allis Chalmers sat forward of the axle in 1963
...its* final days.
the Ag part of IH merged with Case when it was bought by Tenneco
I still run a 1086. Have videos of it. Still has cold air conditioning…love that thing.
A brilliant tractor. Tried ,tested and proven.
+Buzzbox3rd yep..
we have 2 1086 on our farm and they are still great tractors.
Kyle Ackley nice. :) my friend has a 986 & his son has a 1086 turbo. :)
Great tractors
Im probably one of the few IH Enthusiasts that appreciate the left handed shifting levers on the 86 series me being a lefty myself...
i would like mine more if they were taller..
Im a righty. I dont mind the left hand shift. I have a loader with controls on the right. My bigger complaint is not having a foot throttle.
Herpn Derpn same
Also a lefty, not bothered by left or right shifting. More my concern is the smile hitting 4hi and smacking the TA ahead.
I'm right handed, and I like the shift levers on the left side. You can run your hydraulic levers and shift at the same time.
Grandpa bought a brand new 1086 in 1978! WOW we thought had the world by the tale😂 loved that tractor! He retired in 1983 and local guy bought it just sold it in 2018! Got 13000 for it! All them old tractors had there own personality now the new ones seem all the same!
...by the tail*
I was 13 in 1979 when my dad bought a brand new 1086. Our very first quiet cab with ac. It was like sitting in a Cadillac. The 86 series were a vast improvement from the previous 66 series in almost every way with a few exceptions: On the 86 series the batteries were not in an easily accessible place but were secured well and out of the way. They should have made the doors open to the front for easier access to the cab. If you had to remove the starter you had to take out the floor mat in the cab and a steel plate on the floor. A special wrench to remove the starter bolts was available. The starter was very difficult to service. The TA lever had that goofy spring loaded mechanism that made it difficult to operate smoothly. On the plus side putting the muffler under the hood was genius, leaving only the stack above the hood. The hydraulic assisted clutch was awesome (I think our 1066 also had that). We're mostly JD now and I don't know why other companies don't use that. With that short wheel base it was the best tractor I've ever owned for blowing snow lol. Even with the short wheel base it was balanced very well and could lift considerably more than our 5088 without weights on either tractor. When I traded the 1086 sometime in the mid to later 90s it had over 9000 hours and hadn't had an overhaul. I think IH had a very, very good engine which was quite efficient as well. If they could have hung on another year and introduced the new Magnum series (which was IH's design) they would have made it. The Magnum was head and shoulders above every other tractor of it's time when it was introduced in about 1987??? On a side note, how many others here have noticed how much the radios and cheap @#$%ing speakers they put in the tractors today just suck?
nice.. :) ya these tractors have there ups & downs.. thats y i had gotin a 1586 i'd like 2 get a 986 or 1086 as well.
Speaking as a guy who has spent thousands of hours on IHC tractors, the cab was guiet and roomy and didn't have that big join in the middle of the windscreen like JD. Moving the cab forward was a mistake ,very rough ride on 86 series combined with short wheel base and you couldn't see the drawbar easily. The 66 series rode smoothly and had fuel tank behind engine which also reduced engine noise and heat . JD , WHITE ,FORD, IHC ,MASSEY WERE ALL GREAT MACHINES IN THOSE DAYS ,NOT PLASTIC UGLY COMPUTERIZED JUNK LIKE NOW ,IMHO.
they said in the vid that Moving the cab forward would give it a better ride. so its funny hearing about that. but not every1 liked it.. tractors nowadays r a joke.. the older 1's were made out of steel NOT PLASTIC. thats i want with an older ih tractor.. THATS A REAL TRACTOR!
One particular thing I liked about the 86 series was the self cleaning cab filter ,when you closed the door it would self purge, I have noticed that the caseih tractors have gone back to a filter under the cab where all the dust accumulates ,duh.I think the 86 series were good solid machines and reliable and later 88 series as well ,I drove a 5088 for some time and loved it,those Inter diesels were great .Thank you for posting these videos, kind regards.
ya that self cleaning cab filter was a very cool thing. they should have stayed with that... o man those 88 series r sweat. i want 2 buy 1 as well. :) ur very welcome. :)
Imo these were the best looking tractors ih ever made
Several years ago a friends DX 140 was down and he borrowed a 1586 I got to drive it I flat out loved that that 1586 tractor
nice. :) i have a 1586 as well. :)
Steve Pifer How could you not just a great machine
Now I’m not an expert but we have a 1086 and a 4640 and in my opinion John Deere was way ahead in the design of their transmissions.
I was brought up with the 4010,4020 jd ,but the oh my friends had had a big v8 with twin stacks,they used it for chopping and moldboard plowing,but it sure sounded good . You could hear them start it a mile away.
That cab forward thing only works if the wheelbase is long. Unfortunately the 86 series had too short of a wheelbase so you'd end up with back fatigue by the end of the day.
ya it could.. lucky i dont spend alot of time in 1..
Wonderful machine grandpa bought one new and its still running only problem is it was the work horse so its got rust upon rust but thats just looks and the ac is shot but all together great 1086
That's right Jared. I have also slept many hours on the deck behind the seat on our 1486. Grandpa had a 14 and dad and I would mow hay for hours. grandpa sold his 1486 and we missed it so much we had to buy another one. now we have one that's cranking 220 ponies and doesn't use a drop of oil.
Thanks for the post.......fun to watch an IH promo film. We had a 1586 and 1466....night and day tractor. Overall, the 1586 was a reliable tractor. We had about 9k hours when traded in. Solid motor and transmission.
That was really cool to watch. I myself am an IH fan. I don't have any of the big IH red tractors but I do have an IH Cub Cadet 129 hydrostatic and an IH Cub Lo-Boy 154. I love IH Cub Cadet and IH Cub Lo-Boys a lot
The transmission needed an upgrade at the same time !
spent many hours plowing in a 1486 when i was a kid good tractor even tho it was almost 30 years old
Bring Back IH Tractors
Dump Case Fait!👍
if they did they would be shit just like the new 1's.
@@MrJohndeere3720 no. They could try and be different. I think they should at least bring back the 2+2 that iH made
A farmer by my hunting camp still uses one on his cotton fields. Very beautiful tractor
We had a 1586. It sure had some balls. It would pull the front end off the ground cultivating over the hills. But sadly it burnt down.
sorry to hear that. :( i have a 1586 as well. been a great tractor. needs love, but they all do lol.
@MrJohndeere3720 bought ours on an estate sale. 4157 hrs. 1000hrs later it burnt. Insurance adjuster said failed wiring in the cab
@@jeremycherny2041 o ok. Got mine at a small dealer/repair shop. 9500 hrs but the hour counter stopped working need to send it in. Paid 8K for the tractor then paid 900 to have it hauled to my farm.
I had a real nice looking 1486. The only trouble was it cost tens of thousands of dollars to keep it running. Engine camshaft went first two years later transmission and rear end went out. Had it all fixed by International Harvester dealer. It just costs too much to keep it running got rid of it and bought green.
must of had a hard life..
I have driven the whole 86 series and I love every one of them
"And we used the same pto off the old 806 on everything. Have fun taking that off yearly to rebuild it!"
My Dad got a new 1086 in 1979. Wow, what a difference between that and the 1066 that we also had. It was a very good tractor and had over 9000 hours with no major engine work done when I traded it. The 88 series tractors were a joke and dealt the final blow to IH. If they had made the right changes then, they might have survived. Such as:
Making the transmission power-shift from gears 1-6 instead of only between 1&2, 3&4 and 5&6.
Opening the doors to the front, the way they're supposed to.
The forward air flow should NEVER have been done.
The only improvements from the 86 to 88 series were a synchronized transmission, hydraulic clutch and tilt steering wheel.
66limelight ya they left some things out. my friend has a 986 & his son has a 1086,1566 & a 806. the doors on the 86 & the 88 series did open 2 the front just like ur car. its the 66 series cabed tractors where there doors open 2 the back. my friends 986 does not have tilt steering & it sucks 2 get in it.. thanks 4 watching :)
MrJohndeere, our definition of what is front opening and rear opening is different. Let's just say the 86 and following 88 series tractors should have had their doors open the same direction as the older 66 and the newer Magnums. We had a 5088 and IMO the only thing that was an improvement was the synchronized trans. But they should have made it a powershift from 1st to 6th gear. I think the 86 were better tractors.
My 1086 is a later model than these originals and does not have a differential lock. Was that an option?
im pretty sure it was. i think u had to order it with a differential lock. my 1586 does not have one but has the hole in the floor for it
I believe the wheelbases are the same. 86 series vs. 66 series.
i was told they are the same, things were just moved around on the 86 series.
Yep, I think a lot of people think they are different. I’ve got to admit they look shorter.
@@nitram739 they do 4 sure..
The 86 series were the worst shifting tractors ever
Liked the 66 a lot better, hooking up to equipment by yourself was almost impossible on the 86.
ya it can be hard at times..
They were ok tractors transmissions were way behind John Deere’s at the time
4 sure...
Awesome video my favorite 86 series tractor is the 1486
Do you know y back then they would put pto horsepower instead of just horsepower?
+Dairy farm boys not 2 sure, but all i no is that u get less hp on the pto then on motor itsself.
Dairyfarmvids Because PTO horsepower is the closest thing to engine horsepower and its easy to figure and then produce a list of what it can run and show that off. Drawbar horsepower, there is a lot of variables, tire slip, soil type and condition, flat ground, hilly ground etc... those are fuel related costs and well, let's hide that part. Although they did start to label some that way.
I think PTO horsepower was the best measurement because some implements are very demanding on the PTO. The engine spec on a tractor doesn't mean dick when you lose through the gearing of the transmission, and if it is a 2wd or 4wd.
The video doesn't mention the 686, the 786 or the four wheel drive 4186
ya i dont no y they did not add the 686 & the 786, the 4186 is new 2 me, never seen 1, ill have 2 see if i can find some pixs. but ya im with u on that,
*****
The 4186 was a giant 4WD tractor. It was an update of the earlier 4166.
The 686 may not have been mentioned here because it was an update of the earlier 666 and didn't have the new "Pro-Ag" features such as the centralized operator's station etc.
Michael Halsall o ok, ya that might be y.
The 686 tractors were treated in the same disregard by IH as the 2-70 tractors were treated by White. I always thought they both were the coolest of the lines.
The 786 to 1586 were "Big Framed " IH tractors (105" wheelbase)
The smaller 686 was the final update of the earlier 656 and then 666 tractors. they were smaller tractors for smaller farms, not an inferior product, although they lacked some features of their bigger brothers.
I have ran both 1066 and 1086 tractors both were good tractors the bad thing about the 1086 was the cab always felt cramped up in the 1086 so with that I will take a 1066
u can fix that by putting a tilt steering wheel kit in it..
I have a 1486 wonderful tractor running strong for over 20 yrs. Best tractors ever made.!!
@@williame.portman4026 i got a 1586 been a great tractor for me. needs love but its all small stuff..
Still run one today
I know where the 1086 in this film is. Google...Machinery Pete first 1086 tractor.
The last good tractor ih ever built wes the 66 series
The only real difference between 66 & 86 is the cab.
After spending many hours in both 66 and 86 series my preference was the 66 hands down .
66 series easier access into and out of the cab and that damn fuel tank on the back sucked .
@@zinderkugelus6194 i completely agree with the fuel tank but with an aftermarket set of steps is 100 times better than the factory 86 steps for getting in & out
@@AndyFromm 86 didn't have the balance that the 66 series had either
Dad had a 1466 that would pull the ass off his 1466
86 series was a pretty good one.
I have to say, as nice as it looked, and as comfortable as the cab seemed, the ride on my 986 was a complete disappointment and absolutely no match for my Cockshutt 1550 or 1850. I sold the 986 and never looked back.
some say if u widen the wheels out that will make the ride more comfortable. Cockshutts r cool tractors. :)
42lookc you are comparing a red Oliver to an IH? Now that funny. Not even in the league.
i think the 86 series was their best looking tractor ti was a sharp looking tractor when it came out when the 88 series came out i was shocked at how ugly it was
I agree. The 66 Series & later 86 Series tractors had a strong stylish grille which gave them that umistakable IH look.
The 88 Series had a strange "blanked off" grille styling which I have never really liked.
Racine Wisconsn Home of the Red Tractors-Series 86 brought much Comfort to IH Drivers I think-But my IH Favorite is sries 88
Racine was the home of J.I. Case. International Harvester was headquartered in Chicago, Illinois and the Farmall Works, where most tractors were built was in Rock Island, Illinois.
You gitta admit. Probably best series of IH ever made
they are. & i have 1. :) thanks 4 watching :)
Ehhhhhh i think the stiger ihs are better
I personally think the 88 series is the best
my grandpa has a 1086 today
to Ryan Moores, utube wont let reply back 2 ur comment... but thanks bud. :)
(Read in video's commentary's voice" Featuring a torque amplifier that will most certainly fail on a regular basis. Yes the dry clutch and wet brakes are a technological break threw in failure ridden technology. ( This is just for fun )
ya. they do fail alot, my friend's ih 986 ta is failing.
The reason the torque amplifier would fail is because people would not use them properly. I worked on them new and every idiot that used them to slow the tractor down will destroy the spag clutch in it.
@@billyuhlir3783 the first TAs would coast or freewheel on a downhill if you weren't working or pulling the later ones didn't I never tore one out the newer design must of had different guts in it
Dad bought a 1086 his first new tractor he said he fuckkn hated it but kept it for a long long time and had all case then went to John Deere he had a 1086 case 1175 and a 2390 then went to 4440 and a 4755. Now we have the same 4440 a 4430 4320 7600 and a new 7200R
wanted an 966 but MF 1105 was less money. 1105 was not close to Dad's 806 Farmall Both had 18.4 tires but the Farmall could handle 7 , 16 in plow while 1105 just 6.
w harr some 966 are only like 6k for a nice one. but im sure u'll find one to likeing. :)
i love our 886
I think they are pretty nice
they are & i have 1.. :)
My grandpa has a kubota
nice..
that was cool!
cool video
I had a 1586 that dynoed out at 190 hp factory setting
My friend said that some could have been turned up. He thinks my 1586 could be pushing 190hp. Factory setting is 160.
@@MrJohndeere3720 my tractor was a odd ball with 4 post and no T/A no pto
@@larrymartin9620 what good is a tractor without a pto...lol mine has pretty much every thing u can think of.. there some things im going to add on with time..
@@MrJohndeere3720 mine was a plantation ordered unit and not taken draft use only I guess
@@larrymartin9620 o ok 👍🏻
Had a cousin in Iowa who had a 986 I drove it moving round hay bales from field to yard.. nice tractor but not the smooth ride of a John Deere,
Our 986 doesn't have a differential lock. At least none that I've seen.
EragonSuperM i think u have 2 ask 4 differential lock.
***** Oh ok
EragonSuperM
:)
The 86 was dangerous
😀😀😀👍👍👍👏👏👏👏
Worst transmissions ever, we had a 1086 back in the 90s and Jesus compared to jds 40 series transmissions, international was way behind.
Red is better
Best thing I ever did with my 886, was trade it in on a John Deere 6410.
lol
Shulda kept the 886 such a better tractor than a deere
Mark Anderson John Deere's are shit tractor's
@@damienskinner198 Well no, a lot of 6410s make it far past 10 000 hrs with almost no issues. The transmission is silky smooth, too, and I'd say more reliable. Every single 6010 and 7010 series I've driven has had 10 000+ hours with very few issues.
Mark Anderson why are you here then?
Doors opened the wrong way
Mud and dirt on your backside every time. Who thought that was a good idea???
they open the same way a car does...lol
What a piece of junk eh
o no there not junk....HAHAHA :)
@Hay Day fuck off