i wish there was a love button in addition to the like!! this is such a great solution to my problem and the ability to angle the tool is perfect. making one today
thanks for this Mike, I was going to buy a recess tool but like you could see the need to come in at an angle to avoid the center, so after watching this I just made one out off an old file works perfect and took a short time to make. Folkestone UK
@@boneyard-glasshouse-walk Be very careful. Files are known to be be brittle and crack because of all of the grooves. You might google what you can do to reduce the risk. Main thing is be aware of the risk and do not stick far off a tool rest.
Great video, thank you. I cant believe that Sorby that makes 1000 different tools doesnt make this. Kind of silly as we all run into this SAME problem.
Wow. I had this exact same problem (creating a dovetail with tailstock in place), and looked for a tool out there that solved the problem. Couldn't find one. My conclusion was to build my own. Great to see somebody already put together the whole working plan in this video. I'll be building "your" tool idea this week! Thank you so much.
thank you for this useful and well explained information. You saved my money because I was going to buy one that wouldn't work with the rotating tip. I will do mine
@@MikePeaceWoodturning made one for myself and it worked well. as it will have little use here, I took advantage of the old steel suspension from wolkswagen beetle (junkyard) 😁 it's not correct but it worked. I also shared the link to your video in the video I made. good information deserves it thank you again
Good idea. I have two Nova chucks. One with the T handle , a G3 and one with the two bars. This video helped me a lot . I want to make the tool for the chucks. Thanks for the help.
After hollowing out the recess to the desired diameter and depth, I make the dovetail part of the recess with a tool that I ground from a small (~1/2") spade bit. It works for me. In fact, a set of miniature detail tools can be ground from spade bits, and you can embed a 6" extension in a wood handle for them. Look for extensions that have setscrews.
Appreciate the post on making the recess. I love the tenon and can get a good one made in very little time but I've always struggled getting the recess done accurately and in good time. Very helpful.
Great tool Mike, I gave you a shout out at a recent demo I gave. When it came time to mount the demo piece to the lathe I used the tool I made, and showed the group how well it can work. When I made mine I adjusted the angles a bit and shortened the business end to reduce the catches I was experiencing with the cutting end as wide as yours, I also adjusted the presentation angle so I had more of the tool shaft support on the tool rest, and of course I ground the dovetail angle to match the jaws of my chucks. Thanks again for posting the great inspirational videos.
Thanks for the video Mike. Just got my first two sets of dovetail jaws for my Oneway chuck. Wish your hand hadn’t been in the way near the end of the video. 👌
Skew chisel works great - as long as the tailstock and live center is not in the way. If you start your bowl between centers this allows you to make a recess when a skew could not. I guess you did not watch to the 7:20 part where I illustrate this.
You can download the article I wrote on making this by clicking here www.mikepeacewoodturning.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/Shopmade-Recess-Dovetail-Tool-AW-0216.pdf I believe a slightly wider bar of 18-20mm wide is probably better than my original one which was 12mm wide. See the affiliate link above to find one.
Good video with detailed explanations...Your hand is a little too dense to see through. :) Not a problem though, I knew what you were talking about.I have a question on your dust collector seen in this video. Is that something you purchased or did you fabricate it yourself. I assume it is used while lathe sanding primarily.
+Gil Grace The actual DC is a HF 1 1/2 HP model. I replaced the bags. My bottom bag is disposable plastic bag from Jet. The top is a five foot shaker felt bag. I use a Thien baffle pre seperator to collect the larger chips.
+Mike Peace I'm sorry, I didn't make my question very clear. I was referring to the sort of square "funnel" shown just behind the bowl blank and chuck. I am attempting to make one like that from thin plywood to eliminate some of my sanding dust.
+Gil Grace It is a commercial plastic hood available from Craft Supply mounted on an wood L bracket with a slot in the piece that fits on the lathe bed so I can slide it back an forth and tighten with a knob and stop block.
i will have to give this a try, thank you. i got the $20 box of 8 lathe tools (not high speed steel) at harbor freight might have to grab one i never use and try this out.
i wish there was a love button in addition to the like!! this is such a great solution to my problem and the ability to angle the tool is perfect. making one today
Glad it helped! There is always the Buy Me a Coffee link in the show notes.
thanks for this Mike, I was going to buy a recess tool but like you could see the need to come in at an angle to avoid the center, so after watching this I just made one out off an old file works perfect and took a short time to make. Folkestone UK
Sounds good. I guess you annealed it first so it would not be too brittle?
@@MikePeaceWoodturning no just ground the file as it was and appears to work fine up till now, but only used once so far
@@boneyard-glasshouse-walk Be very careful. Files are known to be be brittle and crack because of all of the grooves. You might google what you can do to reduce the risk. Main thing is be aware of the risk and do not stick far off a tool rest.
@@MikePeaceWoodturning Thanks for that Mike and thinking about it I'm now on look out for an old lathe chisel to convert so I can bin the file
Great video, thank you. I cant believe that Sorby that makes 1000 different tools doesnt make this. Kind of silly as we all run into this SAME problem.
Very good! Sorry Mike I took a screen shot of the tool so that I could make one.
Excellent. I know you will like it.
Wow. I had this exact same problem (creating a dovetail with tailstock in place), and looked for a tool out there that solved the problem. Couldn't find one. My conclusion was to build my own. Great to see somebody already put together the whole working plan in this video. I'll be building "your" tool idea this week! Thank you so much.
You would think someone would be selling these, wouldn't ya?
Just use a skew chisel like the manufacturer recommends
thank you for this useful and well explained information.
You saved my money because I was going to buy one that wouldn't work with the rotating tip.
I will do mine
Glad I could help
@@MikePeaceWoodturning made one for myself and it worked well.
as it will have little use here, I took advantage of the old steel suspension from wolkswagen beetle (junkyard) 😁 it's not correct but it worked.
I also shared the link to your video in the video I made. good information deserves it
thank you again
Many Thanks Sir Mike... Very useful info for me a new turner. Peace
I appreciate your support. Glad you are finding my videos helpful.
Good idea. I have two Nova chucks. One with the T handle , a G3 and one with the two bars. This video helped me a lot . I want to make the tool for the chucks. Thanks for the help.
Great tool, Mike! I've often thought that there had to be a better way of cutting that recess, and you've found it. Thanks for posting!
+RickTurns
Thanks Rick. Credit goes to Mark Sillay who showed me this design.
After hollowing out the recess to the desired diameter and depth, I make the dovetail part of the recess with a tool that I ground from a small (~1/2") spade bit. It works for me. In fact, a set of miniature detail tools can be ground from spade bits, and you can embed a 6" extension in a wood handle for them. Look for extensions that have setscrews.
Thanks for the idea. I made one today
Great!
Appreciate the post on making the recess. I love the tenon and can get a good one made in very little time but I've always struggled getting the recess done accurately and in good time. Very helpful.
+Todd S
Glad this was helpful.
Thanks for the detailed information. Love your videos!!!
Lloyd
Had to come back and watch this one again. Doing some coring and it's time to make one of these tools. :- ) Thanks Mike!
Glad you found it useful.
Thanks I have the nova lathe this helped on doing my first bowl
So glad it was useful for you.
Great tool Mike, I gave you a shout out at a recent demo I gave. When it came time to mount the demo piece to the lathe I used the tool I made, and showed the group how well it can work. When I made mine I adjusted the angles a bit and shortened the business end to reduce the catches I was experiencing with the cutting end as wide as yours, I also adjusted the presentation angle so I had more of the tool shaft support on the tool rest, and of course I ground the dovetail angle to match the jaws of my chucks. Thanks again for posting the great inspirational videos.
+Bert Delisle Thanks for that.
Thanks for the video Mike. Just got my first two sets of dovetail jaws for my Oneway chuck. Wish your hand hadn’t been in the way near the end of the video. 👌
Next time!
Thanks for the information mike, Great idea, cheers Harry
I too would like to see how you actually grind this chuck recess scraper. Thanks Mike - I really appreciate your vids. I'm learning heaps!
I covered this in Moment of Peace #6
Mike Peace Woodturning moment of peace #6
Mike Peace Woodturning peace #6
Hi Mike. Thanks for the lesson. Take care. Marc
+Marc 's Oneway of turning
Thanks, Marc. Let's see another box!
Most of us already have this tool; it's called a skew chisel. The manufacturers of several scroll chuck even recommends using it.
Skew chisel works great - as long as the tailstock and live center is not in the way. If you start your bowl between centers this allows you to make a recess when a skew could not. I guess you did not watch to the 7:20 part where I illustrate this.
You can download the article I wrote on making this by clicking here www.mikepeacewoodturning.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/Shopmade-Recess-Dovetail-Tool-AW-0216.pdf I believe a slightly wider bar of 18-20mm wide is probably better than my original one which was 12mm wide. See the affiliate link above to find one.
Thanks a lot for the detailed explanation
You are welcome, Paul. Safe turning.
that was a good video mike,,,,you could make and sell that tool,,
Wow, my own brand of signature tools! I don't think that will happen but surprised some tool maker hasn't made a tool with this design.
Good video with detailed explanations...Your hand is a little too dense to see through. :) Not a problem though, I knew what you were talking about.I have a question on your dust collector seen in this video. Is that something you purchased or did you fabricate it yourself. I assume it is used while lathe sanding primarily.
+Gil Grace The actual DC is a HF 1 1/2 HP model. I replaced the bags. My bottom bag is disposable plastic bag from Jet. The top is a five foot shaker felt bag. I use a Thien baffle pre seperator to collect the larger chips.
+Mike Peace I'm sorry, I didn't make my question very clear. I was referring to the sort of square "funnel" shown just behind the bowl blank and chuck. I am attempting to make one like that from thin plywood to eliminate some of my sanding dust.
+Gil Grace It is a commercial plastic hood available from Craft Supply mounted on an wood L bracket with a slot in the piece that fits on the lathe bed so I can slide it back an forth and tighten with a knob and stop block.
What are the sharpening angles (bevels) of the two cutting eges of the tool.
Somewhere between 70 and 80 deg like many typical scrapers. It is not critical as long as it is less than 90.
it looks like it would catch so easy cutting from so many areas at once, does angling the handle up catch often?
It is not far off the tool rest. I have never had a catch with it.
i will have to give this a try, thank you. i got the $20 box of 8 lathe tools (not high speed steel) at harbor freight might have to grab one i never use and try this out.
Show us how you grind that "Special Tool" please.
Ok, I have this on my to do list.
I covered this in Moment of Peace #6
Mike Peace Woodturning moment of peace number 6
Need some help Mike. I sent you an email. Thanks..Great vids. Especially the bloopers.
It was good talking with you. I want to see that dovetail tool when you make it!