nothing beats a saw with a new or properly sharpened chain. When it comes to top handle saws I really like the stihl 201tc. its light, runs great and seems fast. reaching out for 1 handed cuts all day will make you want it lighter.
We have the Milwaukee top handle. It didn't oil at first either and we figured out you have to run it about 30 seconds to get oil to the bar before the first cut and then it's fine. The Milwaukee Hatchet oils great like the 20V DeWalt.
Im glad you guys are honest about your experience. Chainsaw work and especially climbing work is something strictly for very experienced arborists. Most guys spend time on the ground dragging brush, filing chains, eventually bucking but more importantly being in the presence of experience and drawing from those who have done it for a long time. I would highly suggest that both of you go do some work with an experienced arborist. That field is probably one of if not the most dangerous jobs on the earth, seriously. You dont want to spend the rest of your life in a wheelchair amongst many other scenarios. With filing the saws, pferd makes a 3 in 1 file that is basically fool proof as it will file your rakers and teeth simultaneously. Keep your angle the same with smooth strokes and the same number of strokes per tooth. Typically 3 +/- strokes depending on how bad the chain is. With the bar oil, its not going to oil as much as a gas saw due to the slower chain speed which in turn means you will see less lubrication. Additionally, while cutting, the shavings will absorb most of the oil. Try using a thinner oil as another commenter mentioned. I can't stress enough how dangerous this work is. Please get around professionals and pick their brain, watch them work, ask for lessons on sharpening and it would be best to work with a professional outfit for at least a few months prior to continuing to run ypur own side business and figuring it out as you go along. Chances are, you won't be going for too long if you dont. Best wishes!
Definitely good advice. We aren't running a side business really, more just messing around with very low risk trees. Learning what we can from others on RUclips and on forums and taking our time to get competent at climbing/ tree work. It definitely is a dangerous hobby but as far as the actual climbing is concerned we take extra precautions that most others on RUclips do not. Like using a fall arrest lanyard in addition to a steel core, no one on RUclips does that but you won't catch me in the tree without multiple ways to be tied in. It's all a learning process. I surely am not trying to teach anyone with these videos, simply enjoying a new reason to get outside.
I can tell you guys have passion and a drive to get after it. That's a wonderful thing you don't see a whole lot anymore. Definitely better than being on a video game or self absorbed in social media. Keep at it and just be safe!
At first I thought it was a regional thing, but then I saw the NH plates. DeWalt is pronounced Duh-Walt, not Dee-Walt. Once you get bitten by the bug, it's hard to quit it. If it uses a battery, DeWalt is the one to go with in 99% of the time. If it plugs in then I find Bosch tools are the way to go. I was going back and forth between the Stihl MSA 220 and the DeWalt 60v. The Stihl is built nicer, but it costs twice as much and their baterries last only half as long. In regards to oil, with the 60v, you should be filling it up every 2-3 batteries under normal cutting. Gas is typically a fillup per tank.
Man I wish I would’ve watched this before I bought mine! Looks like you’ve had the same experience I had, great info! I haven’t watched your other vids on this saw yet but were you able to get it oiling better?
I also changes the bar to an oregon bar but if you do that you better have a dremel tool because the oil holes don't line up and u need to make them bigger.
@@Bearbait01 would you say good enough or not quite there yet ? Is the Dewalt oil thin enough, and how do you know which oil to look for is it on the label ? ty. edit: and also would you say thinner oil for the longer bladed chainsaw is also better now ?
@sebastienbaeyens2358 I think it's likely better than the Milwaukee and probably right under the husqvarna or equivalent. Not enough people have tested these saws yet to know for sure. As far as the bar oil goes, just get Oregon brand oil. You'll be happy with it. Or if you really wanna spend some money I run DGP in my long bar saws.
hi bear im glad to see another video , for the oil did you check if there is anny in the reservoir , and you might cheat by using a smaller grade of oill
Yeah I filled it up with oil. I don't know a whole lot about oil when it comes to chainsaws but I just expect there to be more lubrication. The more the better I would think.
I think the Echo "premium" runs the best in my cordless saws. That Husqvarna all season X force certainly isn't thick, but it is fairly tacky... I dunno about the Stihl "premium" as I've had some pretty significant inconsistencies over the last few gallons we've used, so I'm not buying any more until they fix whatever that issue or formula change is... 🤷♂️ Honestly the best flowing bar oil I've ever used was some biodegradable Walmart stocked stuff 🤣 Timberline maybe? It does gather moisture/degrade in anything that's not airtight over a couple years, but that stuff ran great! Sadly they either didn't stock it last year or I already missed it's seasonal batch... I'll have to check again next time. I'd order some online if I could remember the brand, but I immediately transferred it to carry bottles both times I bought it 🤣 I agree ATF is definitely an option, but knowing dewalt saws it'll leak out faster than you can fill it up! 😂👍
@berryreading4809 thankfully the top handle doesn't seem to leak at all. I know you're not supposed to use motor oil but I really like how slippery motor oil gets the bars. I may just use motor oil anyway. How bad could it really be?
They are great with the 12ah my son have 2727 12ah it hase the 3/8 mini chain 6,600 rpm it leaks oil I have one like this 2826-22t with 12ah and 8ah it don't leak oil in my opinion I like 2826 .325 chain 7,700 rpm she cut way faster can push on 2 of them
Kinda irrelevant because this saw isn't for that kind of cutting. If you're bucking firewood get a different saw. I'd never use this saw for anything more than climbing situations. I did another video climbing with it and it seems like it would last a long time and I was only using the 9ah battery. Obviously cutting through thicker wood would use more battery but for its intended purpose, limbs and taking small tops. Battery life isn't an issue.
@Bearbait01 yes I know that but I am a old guy buck up a small lot of fire wood at a time for the fun of it love to know what one 12ah battery can cut before I buy or I mite get the milwaukee 2826 22 it $1100. Here I Cant use gas saw They say the 2826 can get 225 in 4x4 on 12ah I have a different need for it than you I need a good top hand
I'd consider this aswell the Milwaukee is an 18 volt saw while the dewalt is a 54v saw (60 advertised but really 54). You may be good in your use case to go with the 20 Volt dewalt saw. It's only $150 without a battery. Cheapest battery saw on the market and I've used mine enough to tell you, it's not going to break easily like you think it may at that price point. It's a good low budget saw for sure.
Also when using battery saws for bucking, the batteries, especially the dewalt ones tend to overheat. I'd go with multiple batteries instead of one large battery to save frustration and having to wait for them to cool down.
@Bearbait01 thanks for your help I have the 20v Dewalt 12" nice little saw but slow cutting I have a 40v yardworks 14" it old it still can buck up more wood than the Dewalt 20v and it way faster a little heaver I like that saw but it not a top handle so I can't use it with one hand that why I like the 20v better I like using one hand I am going to try a new one milwaukee or Dewalt what one buck up the most wood on one charge of a 12ah battery So it like this when the battery is done so will I be done but I want the most wood buck up lol
i just got one of these and the chain tensioner broke after the saw binded and made the yellow triangle activate had to get a new one and it still not working
did the dewalt oil work, i looked on amazon it’s $65 for a gallon that’s a lot more then the one i have is echo brand, i got a new one ill try and dump some oil on the bar and prime it but if dewalt oil works that would be nice
@@Bearbait01sweet thanks, this helped a lot my oil is way to thick had to run it like you did for a few minutes just to get the oil running and i put some on the blade hopefully it runs nice and the little tensioner doesn’t snap again they could have made it tougher!!!
Model # for this saw is DCCS674X2
nothing beats a saw with a new or properly sharpened chain. When it comes to top handle saws I really like the stihl 201tc. its light, runs great and seems fast. reaching out for 1 handed cuts all day will make you want it lighter.
I have the 12 inch DeWalt. Put on a 16 inch oragon bar on works great no oiling issues
I have the 500i and just googled the same as you. I have lots of 60v batteries and was thinking this would pair with it nicely.
Dwalt the best brand I think hands down
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The little Dewalt is impressive.
Sure is. And I'm the only person that has one I think 🤣
@@Bearbait01 maybe 🤔.......... I prefer red tools though 😁 milwaukee is the king!!!!😁😁
@@Bearbait01 Yep, sofar i think! Really cool saw.
We have the Milwaukee top handle. It didn't oil at first either and we figured out you have to run it about 30 seconds to get oil to the bar before the first cut and then it's fine. The Milwaukee Hatchet oils great like the 20V DeWalt.
There’s a sticker on the saw that tells you to do exactly that.
Im glad you guys are honest about your experience. Chainsaw work and especially climbing work is something strictly for very experienced arborists. Most guys spend time on the ground dragging brush, filing chains, eventually bucking but more importantly being in the presence of experience and drawing from those who have done it for a long time. I would highly suggest that both of you go do some work with an experienced arborist. That field is probably one of if not the most dangerous jobs on the earth, seriously. You dont want to spend the rest of your life in a wheelchair amongst many other scenarios. With filing the saws, pferd makes a 3 in 1 file that is basically fool proof as it will file your rakers and teeth simultaneously. Keep your angle the same with smooth strokes and the same number of strokes per tooth. Typically 3 +/- strokes depending on how bad the chain is. With the bar oil, its not going to oil as much as a gas saw due to the slower chain speed which in turn means you will see less lubrication. Additionally, while cutting, the shavings will absorb most of the oil. Try using a thinner oil as another commenter mentioned. I can't stress enough how dangerous this work is. Please get around professionals and pick their brain, watch them work, ask for lessons on sharpening and it would be best to work with a professional outfit for at least a few months prior to continuing to run ypur own side business and figuring it out as you go along. Chances are, you won't be going for too long if you dont. Best wishes!
Definitely good advice. We aren't running a side business really, more just messing around with very low risk trees. Learning what we can from others on RUclips and on forums and taking our time to get competent at climbing/ tree work. It definitely is a dangerous hobby but as far as the actual climbing is concerned we take extra precautions that most others on RUclips do not. Like using a fall arrest lanyard in addition to a steel core, no one on RUclips does that but you won't catch me in the tree without multiple ways to be tied in.
It's all a learning process. I surely am not trying to teach anyone with these videos, simply enjoying a new reason to get outside.
I can tell you guys have passion and a drive to get after it. That's a wonderful thing you don't see a whole lot anymore. Definitely better than being on a video game or self absorbed in social media. Keep at it and just be safe!
At first I thought it was a regional thing, but then I saw the NH plates. DeWalt is pronounced Duh-Walt, not Dee-Walt. Once you get bitten by the bug, it's hard to quit it. If it uses a battery, DeWalt is the one to go with in 99% of the time. If it plugs in then I find Bosch tools are the way to go. I was going back and forth between the Stihl MSA 220 and the DeWalt 60v. The Stihl is built nicer, but it costs twice as much and their baterries last only half as long.
In regards to oil, with the 60v, you should be filling it up every 2-3 batteries under normal cutting. Gas is typically a fillup per tank.
I like saying deewalt it's fun
Man I wish I would’ve watched this before I bought mine! Looks like you’ve had the same experience I had, great info! I haven’t watched your other vids on this saw yet but were you able to get it oiling better?
Use thinner oil. I use oregon and it oils well enough now.
I also changes the bar to an oregon bar but if you do that you better have a dremel tool because the oil holes don't line up and u need to make them bigger.
@@Bearbait01 Right on, thanks for the info!
@@Bearbait01 would you say good enough or not quite there yet ? Is the Dewalt oil thin enough, and how do you know which oil to look for is it on the label ? ty.
edit: and also would you say thinner oil for the longer bladed chainsaw is also better now ?
@sebastienbaeyens2358 I think it's likely better than the Milwaukee and probably right under the husqvarna or equivalent. Not enough people have tested these saws yet to know for sure.
As far as the bar oil goes, just get Oregon brand oil. You'll be happy with it. Or if you really wanna spend some money I run DGP in my long bar saws.
629 cdn from atlas now for the same kit
Nice mustang
hey, thanks for review
how many cuts it can do on one 9 or 12 ah battery?
Dewalt said 160 cuts on pine 4x4. I believe it.
hi bear im glad to see another video , for the oil did you check if there is anny in the reservoir , and you might cheat by using a smaller grade of oill
Yeah I filled it up with oil. I don't know a whole lot about oil when it comes to chainsaws but I just expect there to be more lubrication. The more the better I would think.
@@Bearbait01 and you may try automatik transmission oil to and its red so you see it better
I think the Echo "premium" runs the best in my cordless saws. That Husqvarna all season X force certainly isn't thick, but it is fairly tacky... I dunno about the Stihl "premium" as I've had some pretty significant inconsistencies over the last few gallons we've used, so I'm not buying any more until they fix whatever that issue or formula change is... 🤷♂️ Honestly the best flowing bar oil I've ever used was some biodegradable Walmart stocked stuff 🤣 Timberline maybe? It does gather moisture/degrade in anything that's not airtight over a couple years, but that stuff ran great! Sadly they either didn't stock it last year or I already missed it's seasonal batch... I'll have to check again next time. I'd order some online if I could remember the brand, but I immediately transferred it to carry bottles both times I bought it 🤣 I agree ATF is definitely an option, but knowing dewalt saws it'll leak out faster than you can fill it up! 😂👍
@berryreading4809 thankfully the top handle doesn't seem to leak at all. I know you're not supposed to use motor oil but I really like how slippery motor oil gets the bars. I may just use motor oil anyway. How bad could it really be?
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They are great with the 12ah my son have 2727 12ah it hase the 3/8 mini chain 6,600 rpm it leaks oil I have one like this 2826-22t with 12ah and 8ah it don't leak oil in my opinion I like 2826 .325 chain 7,700 rpm she cut way faster can push on 2 of them
Kinda irrelevant because this saw isn't for that kind of cutting. If you're bucking firewood get a different saw. I'd never use this saw for anything more than climbing situations.
I did another video climbing with it and it seems like it would last a long time and I was only using the 9ah battery. Obviously cutting through thicker wood would use more battery but for its intended purpose, limbs and taking small tops. Battery life isn't an issue.
@Bearbait01 yes I know that but I am a old guy buck up a small lot of fire wood at a time for the fun of it love to know what one 12ah battery can cut before I buy or I mite get the milwaukee 2826 22 it $1100. Here I Cant use gas saw
They say the 2826 can get 225 in 4x4 on 12ah I have a different need for it than you I need a good top hand
I'd consider this aswell the Milwaukee is an 18 volt saw while the dewalt is a 54v saw (60 advertised but really 54). You may be good in your use case to go with the 20 Volt dewalt saw. It's only $150 without a battery. Cheapest battery saw on the market and I've used mine enough to tell you, it's not going to break easily like you think it may at that price point. It's a good low budget saw for sure.
Also when using battery saws for bucking, the batteries, especially the dewalt ones tend to overheat. I'd go with multiple batteries instead of one large battery to save frustration and having to wait for them to cool down.
@Bearbait01 thanks for your help
I have the 20v Dewalt 12" nice little saw but slow cutting
I have a 40v yardworks 14" it old it still can buck up more wood than the Dewalt 20v and it way faster a little heaver I like that saw but it not a top handle so I can't use it with one hand that why I like the 20v better I like using one hand
I am going to try a new one milwaukee or Dewalt what one buck up the most wood on one charge of a 12ah battery
So it like this when the battery is done so will I be done but I want the most wood buck up lol
i just got one of these and the chain tensioner broke after the saw binded and made the yellow triangle activate had to get a new one and it still not working
Oh shit.
this video helped so much mine binded because of the oil issue and i never primed it like that or put oil so it broke
@DTUDeadshot you didn't run any oil at all or you just didn't prime it? Also, is your tensioner fixed now? Do they have parts available for that?
you are that guy
The oilers on the DeWalt saws are either all or nothing even with the thinner oil
At 57 seconds what is the black attachment that is on the notch polesaw? Thanks!
That's the Notch Marvin with the Big Shot slingshot head for setting lines In trees.
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did the dewalt oil work, i looked on amazon it’s $65 for a gallon that’s a lot more then the one i have is echo brand, i got a new one ill try and dump some oil on the bar and prime it but if dewalt oil works that would be nice
I've been using oregon oil. I like it. Way better than the husqvarna stuff.
@@Bearbait01sweet thanks, this helped a lot my oil is way to thick had to run it like you did for a few minutes just to get the oil running and i put some on the blade hopefully it runs nice and the little tensioner doesn’t snap again they could have made it tougher!!!
@@DTUDeadshot how'd is snap?
Way too much time wastrd on “ oil” comments. We got it the 4th 5th 6th 10th 20th time
Quiet
if there is an issue with the tool we would like to know.... thats why we watch right ?
The 20v saw is just ok untill it dies!
I have that same 20v saw and it died on me after only a few months of work and sitting on a shelf for two years. Now it no longer works.
Well it is $150 so 🤷