Stuffing Whales into a Spaceship!
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
- The Klingon Bird-of-Prey is a small ship. Can it fit two humpback whales inside its cargo bay! Let's find out!
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Even if the scales don’t match up, we all know that Scotty was a miracle worker. He would have made them fit in a shuttle.
As canned fish or something like that?! 🤔😄😉
where do you think he got the idea for how he survived into tng ? he would just put the transporter in a test loop and store their patterns in the buffer
Timelord technology a a stable of starship design in Star Trek
@@j-bob_oreo came here to comment something just like that lol
Welp, thereotically speaking, they couldve re programmed the transporters to materialise them on a smaller scale? I mean, therreotically again, you could transport a burger, save the data, put it in a blender, then transport the mush to materialise as the burger with the saved data? Although, given that thinking, then, if they saved the data of someone from when they were say 20 years old, and transported them when they were say 80, with organically grown material to replace ageing cells, or a healthy donor, would they materialize as a 20 year old them?
In the Star Trek world, the inconsistency of the Bird of Prey's size is insignificant next to the inconsistency of how long the writers think a kilometer is.
Lol
Why did I read this in Darth Vader's voice...
@@DeeJaysterity lol
Or as to what Maximum Warp actually is. And the inability for ships to go past Warp 10, however that Admiral Riker's Enterprise with three naselles was capable of Warp 13.
After all, they made 1 km ≈ 1 _kellicam_ in "The Search for Spock."
I always imagine that people making movies in the 80's had no idea how obsessed people would get with details like this.
Actually, Andrew Probert (who designed the Enterprise-D and Enterprise Refit for TMP, and was interviewed on this channel) did know, that's one of the reasons his designs were super detailed.
Even now with everything composed in 3d and bunch of nerds discusing it for decades, scale varies to fit scene composition. And yet I never heard anybody blaming Rouge One for it or imagining new types of star destroyers. :P
Nah, more just depends on the people making the designs, if they care or not
@@antonisauren8998 I mean they literally did that in Episode IX-the Xyston is a 1.5x scale ISD I model from Rogue One with minor alterations! God that was dumb.
@@derrickstorm6976 I mean it's not always up to the designers-for instance, iirc Probert knew that one set wouldn't actually fit into the saucer section and objected, but was told that it was fine because nobody would notice (he knew they would, and was right).
EC Henry is exactly the kind of fan who should be earning money creating canon and lore for major franchises. That fact that neither Viacom or Disney are tossing money at him with a catapult is a crime against art.
@SonofEyeaboveall Effoff if you are referring to the tie dagger thing EC Henry addressed that and he doesn't think they did as it doesn't take a rocket scientist to come up with a tie fighter with triangle wings.
I think the problem is Hollywood producers do not see consistent canon as necessary to budget for. Heck one reason I heard the bird of prey was used so much in TNG as so many ship classes was they could buy the ship models anywhere. Not so much with others. Cutting costs increases profits or at least means you can spend the money on say having the disruptors firing.
Probably why 'NuTrek' and 'Store Warz' can't figure out starship scales without changing it every other interview.
@@danamoore1788 They probably only had one model. The ting to remember is that the models used in movies and TV are tupically much, much larger than the model kist you buy at the hobby shop.
As far as scaling goes,it's very easy to mess with the size of ships post, even before the use of CG. More oten than not, these models would be shot separately then compostied together into the same scene later. So by setting the camera, or the focus/zoom of the lens, closer or frather from the mdoel you can change how small or large the model will appear on film.
Ya they hire yes men not TALENT.
"I've been looking forward to this." - some random Count of Serenno, idk
"I've always wondered if you could fit humpback whales into a Klingon bird of prey"
EC Henry 2021
There's a certain age bracket of Trek fans that have had that question haunting them since the 80's, not even joking XD
I'm more inclined to stick with the 74 meter length, since they went through the process of building the exterior to that scale. On the other hand, the smaller size seen in the matte painting is an issue of compositing, which places it in the category of honest mistake
Clearly the Klingons incorporated Pym particles into the design of the Bird of Prey.
Excellent work as always, and a fascinating article.
It'd be cool to see you redesign the K'Vort class cruiser so its windows, armaments, greeblies etc fit a ~350m scale but keep the essential similarities to the D12 and rationalize why these ships are built in the same overall shape and appearance.
Oh, that would be perfect! He's done so much extreme forensic work to recreate blurry Star Wars background ships, so redesigning the K'Vort would be well within his abilities, and AFAIK no one's done it before either. Damn, I'd really like to see this now.
COSIGN! Henry, I need it in my life!
One, I think good reason for keeping the appearances similar could just be for the pride of Klingon Captains: they can all say 'Bird of Prey.' :)
In Haynes' BoP Owner's Manual, it's said they share a base exterior, but the interiors are made to order, while the differing sizes are said to be different classes of BoP (e.g. B'rel vs K'vort).
If you've got enough EWAR to jam sensors having multiple otherwise identical ships of vastly different sizes could be great for sowing confusion, especially if they can can cloak outright. Is that B'Rel up close or a K'Vort far away?
At this point, you've answered to many questions floating in the back of trek and sw fans minds that I've started to consider you as the authority. I'll believe your resolutions to these questions more than people directly involved in the productions of the movies and shows XD
I'm just thinking, how do the whales breathe? It would be more logical if the cargo bay was only partially filled with water, leaving the blowhole free. Also, that's quite the substantial cargo bay for a ship that's geared towards combat. Yes, they were also used as raiders so they needed some cargo space, but still, it's huge. Especially considering it's likely the only useable space in that deck, the rest is probably filled with machinery.
Ptobably held their breath in
When the BOP crashed, someone mentioned they had to get the whales out before they drown. Humpbacks are reported to be able to hold their breaths up to an hour but typically only do so for a few minutes between dives. So I guess the viewer must assume their trip aboard ship was to be within such a time frame
I'm glad someone else wondered this same thing. The whales are clearly shown floating in a cargo bay that's completely filled with water.
I came to ask the same question. My head-canon was some type of hyper oxygenated breathable water.
You should do a video on "Would everything seen in Halo 3's campaign missions taking place on the arc, used by the UNSC, actually FIT inside In Amber Clads ship hull. all the warthogs, scorpian tanks, mongeese, hornets, and Pelicians. Because if you ask me, That ship had some sort of pocket demension cargo bay thing.
There is a channel on RUclips called Installation00 who does a lot of detailed breakdowns on Halo tech and lore. Among them is a video where he goes over Halo's problem with inconsistent size scaling, which you may find illuminating. I don't think he ever used Scorpions or other ground vehicles for scale, but he does do a good job of demonstrating the differences between the Canon sizes of ships and what we actually see in game.
I was also going to mention 00, but specifically his analysis of the PoA’s Warthog Run compared to the actual size of the ship! xD
@@UGNAvalon Eh, plenty have already looked at/mocked the PoA Warthog Run scaling.
The In Amber Clad was in Halo 2; the frigate in Halo 3 was the Forward Unto Dawn. Regardless, an episode like this one on all the stuff the FUD carries in Halo 3 would be great.
@@PoorFoxface Oh right, I dont know why I get those two ship names mixed up all the time
Note bad, there is just one problem....
during the part when ther converting the bay Sulu is shown flying a chopper and top loading the perspex sections into the cargo bay, with scotty and Ahura helping, they show that the cargo bay MUST have an direct acess to the top of the ship. and indeead the lighing of the cargo bay in the following cine shows it as having a hinged roof. It's also through this roof that the whales escape after the crash landing.
Hold up, hold up... Just one problem at a time 🤣
Yep, I definitely recall the helicopter scene so the cargobay wasn't in the bottom of the ship but in the top. Back to the drawing board! 😜
The problem with that, of course, are those two big (warp nacelles?) at the top of the hull.
@@keith6706noThe two rounded sections eather side are supposted to be enginering and power, including Impulse and manuvering systems on one side and the warp core on the other. the top being covered with the heat exchangers of life support/cloaking device.
the Bounty is tiny by Startreck standard's.
I have a little headcanon that all the different Klingon shipyards are divided, some along houses, others by engineering attitudes, and all have different opinions about how big a Bird of Prey should be. However all of these shipyards contribute to the wider Klingon navy leading to the different sized BoPs.
I imagine debates between Klingon engineers about what the proper dimensions a BoP should be would get very heated; like the Trekkie arguments about this same subject but with more blood.
Simple, Klingon blueprints don't specify units
That's... a lot of blood.
Great work, though personally I would just go with the larger size established in the whaling ship scene and the scene with the small space ship in the previous film. Those are scenes where the large size of the ship is directly observable and apparent, so that's what most viewers are gonna remember. Viewers are really not going to able to instantly comprehend what sort of size people standing on the small visible part of the ship implies. And it's not like 150m ship is actually large in Trek scale, it is still very small.
The lengths fans will go for continuity.
This a thousand times. why are we so obsessed with perfect continuity?
Now you just have to figure out how Sulu lowered those plexiglass panels into place when there's no hatch that size on the upper hull. At least they used the transporter for the whales.
I’m curious how they got those transparent aluminum sheets in the ship. We saw them go in, but where is the opening located?
They slide in through the top. Obviously. LOL
I was under the impression those were traditional glass sheets and they were purchased by providing the transparent aluminum formula.
on the top obviously.
@@mikedecker4605 Well, not exactly purchased, seeing as Scotty and McCoy bribed... Oh I forget the dude's name, the guy that ran the plexiglass company... Bribed him with the formula for the Transparent Aluminum, even though it wouldn't really pay off for decades to come for the guy.
@@mikedecker4605 Either way, they had to get into the ship somehow. But I guess Transporters are a good enough hand-wave explanation?
We know that the transparent material of choice in the 23rd century is transparent aluminum and we know that they didn't have that material available in 1986. So we know Scotty had to do some jiggering to configure the cargo bay to accept panes of glass six inches thick when they would normally take one inch thick panes. So I fully buy the notion of the middle corridor being moved to one side off-camera.
How, though, did the panels get installed in a cargo bay at the bottom of the ship when we clearly see Sulu lowering them by helicopter into the top? Maybe the upper deck(s) had the machine shop necessary to cut the glass to its final dimensions/specifications...
Can we just come out and say that consistency isn't a strong point for Star Trek?
"just isn't a very big ship" - depends on which shot you cherry-pick - it's several hundred meters long when it's facing off against the whaling ship, for example. But then it's about 40 feet long in total, in Star Trek 3 when facing off against the Enterprise. In ST4, the bulbous nose at the front is both large enough for 3 entire decks and a bridge, and it's also too small to fit 5 humans in, when they escape in the sinking scene.
Can it fit two humpback whales in it? Yes, if the story requires it.
Inflatable ship.
This video feels like it _should_ be a sh*tpost, but I'm certain the topic was taken 100% seriously.
Welcome to the EC henry channel.
The practical problem with the smaller design is that essentially turns the Bird of Prey into a freighter. Why would a ship that is effectively a frigate need a cargo bay that takes up nearly a third of its volume?
as someone else mentioned, Klingons don't eat jerky. They need room for animals and even more room for fodder
That's where the spoils of war go
Next question: how does the engine room fit in around the massive cargo bay?
I wish the people that currently ran Star Trek, cared this much about Star Trek.
2nd best Trek film (fight me) and a great analysis on the MOST inconsistent ship in the series.
For the matte shot that gives the minimum size, it could be that they still had a ways to walk to get to the ramp, so it's bigger than that minimum, but maybe not by much. And to be crewed by 12 with such a large cargo bay (to accommodate all the live food Klingons prefer) that smaller scale makes sense.
scotty said he had to replace the klingon food tanks. Plus he said he would have to adjust the cargo bay to fit in the glass and make the whales be able to be transported. So he probably did adjust the layout.
@@toomanyaccounts Agreed. There's only so much room in the flow of the plot for technical dialogue... the takeaway should have to be that he outright _gutted_ the ship, as only a movie-class wizard like Scotty could do.
I love discussions like this! Great analysis and 3D modelling.
Even before you said it, The idea of a sliding corridor was in my head. Makes sense to be able to make room for bigger cargo.
I kinda love that the 'modern' destroyer you used is an Iroquois class destroyer, the last of which was decommissioned in 2017. The ship in that clip is HMCS Algonquin, decommissioned in 2015, and was based out of Esquimalt harbor. Also the first ship I was posted to.
I both enjoy, and truly appreciate, wacky videos like this! Thank you!
Incredible job rectifying Star Trek inconsistencies!
Wow, a video from each of the Henry brothers in one day. Makes for a great day.
How big is the bird of prey?
It's about plot point x by plot point y
Give or take a few inches
Maybe the Bird of Prey inconsistent size is like the car make Mini, various models of varying sizes depends on the budget that particular Klingon family/clan had when looking for a new spaceship.
Szalinski: "Crewman Wayne Szalinski, reporting for duty, sir."
Kirk: "Welcome aboard... What's that?"
Szalinski: "Just an experiment from home, sir."
A few weeks later:
Kirk: "Is it just me, or has the ship grown? The corridors seem to be off by just a few inches."
Spock: "So it would appear. I believe it's an illusion brought on by unfamiliarity with the ship, but, whether it is or not... Either one is a fascinating phenomenon."
Another few days later:
Kirk: "Mr. Scott, what have you done to my ship?"
Scotty: "I didn't do anything, captain. I got back just a few minutes ago meself, and there she sits at half her size."
Kirk: "Could this be some kind of Klingon technology we don't know about?"
Spock: "The phenomenon started when we took on those six new crewmen."
Kirk: "Szalinski... He had some sort of experiment with him... Where is he?"
Scotty: "I dunno, sir. The lad disappeared right about the time we were fighting Kahn. I believe he died, sir."
Szaliski: "NO!! I'M DOWN HEEEERRRE!!"
I've just rewatched The Voyage Home the other day! Great timing xD
This is awesome explanation! I’m a nerd and I fricken love this stuff!
EC Henry coming in with the real questions. Side note: love your work on the Appalachia on STO it’s gorgeous.
In all my years of Star Wars and Star Trek I’ve never thought, “can I put a whale in that”
Well, there is such a thing as "Cetean Ops" on some Federation ships. It's only really expended on in beta canon, but it turns out Earth's whales and dolphins are fully sapient and can serve in Starfleet. Species with similar needs (Xindi-Aquatics, for example) can also end up in cetean ops.
I still think the king of "How the hell does that fit in a ship" is still that damn "corridor" on the Pillar of Autumn.
EC Henry asks the questions no one else thinks to ask!
I always wondered if they could really fit. And I did notice that the ship just seemed to keep changing sizes.
You've now put about five times more thought into the plot of Start Trek IV than the script writers.
Apart from the Bird of Preys scale, a much bigger issue is, that the whales would drown.
There is no air above the tank when they show them in the tank. It is a sealed tank 100% full of water, also because both whales were beamed aboard when they were fully submerged.
Anyway, thanks for this great video and the nicely done animations and 3d models.
dont you wish you could magically fix all the inconsistencies in the franchise. Of course that would completeely erase a lot of the new stuff but no one would miss it that much.
You see, Klingons actually have growth and shrink rays that they shoot at Birds-of-Prey to make them different sizes for different roles. BoPs are actually just manufactured at a toy factory and then shot with said rays for deployment to the field and for necessary refits as they age.
EC Henry notification? Never clicked so fast.
THANK YOU, it's something that drove me nuts when I saw this as a teen back in the day.
🖖😎👍Very cool and very nicely well done and informatively explained and executed in every detail way shape and format provided on Stuffing two Humpback Whales 🐋 into a Klingon Bird of Prey and how truly big in size that the ship would truly have to be for it to truly work indeed Sir!👌.
It's nice to see, whether deliberate or not, the film did have the potential to make it work with that ship, so it is believable even if there's inconsistencies.
I always questioned how the whales would breathe, since they are not fish.
I remember around the mid 1980s in my teens collecting some of the metal FASA miniatures. Games and technical guides mentioned a K-22, a D-32 and an L-42 Klingon Bird of Prey with crew complements varying from 12 up to 220.
Aside from wildly varied sizes, there's also wing configuration. Early on, the attack position was wings down, as if 'swooping' at its enemy. By the short time we get to several episodes of TNG, there are KBOPs firing disruptors with the wings in the upward angle.
Your genius is on display again. And once again thank you for the new Appalachia class (Steamrunner Refit) in STO. First day buy for me man, she's gorgeous.
I'm so happy to see this. I don't know why. But it fills a hole, man. Thank you. :)
ST 4 is my fave ST film thanks for this!!
The Klingons built Bird of Preys in various sizes to accommodate fleet demands. Better to scale up than build from scratch
6:00 It would be fairly easy to depict both whales at the same time, even if they are carried as you depicted. Establish the divider as a hallway and shoot down the hall. You could even place microphones and speakers so the whales could sing to each other.
And we even established that the whales were intelligent enough to understand what was going on because Spock had communicated their plans and confirmed the whales would cooperate with that plan.
Frankly, if I had been one of the whales, I'm not so sure I would be so willing to cooperate. If it had been me I would have been like, "Let me get this straight. Your kind (assuming the whales could not tell a Vulcan from a human) hunted my kind to extinction. Now a problem that had come to check on us is killing all the humans on Earth. You want to take us into the future, where our child will have no hope at all of finding a mate who is not the child's sibling, and you want us to stop the probe killing all the humans?
"Tell you what, how about you fuck off and leave us alone.
"By the way, you remember that space record you guys had a sign to, then you launched it into interstellar space 9 years ago? Yea, of course we knew all about that! Well, that wasn't just random whale song, it was a cry for help, and should that help arrive too late to save us, we asked that whoever finds the message should avenge us.
"So, no. We have no wish to help you, stupid monkeys."
I'm a bigger fan of the 150m version, because your cargo bay, even at its smallest, leaves NO room for the engines, powerplant, engineering, or the mechanics for the wings. Other wise, really enjoyed this!
Captain. There be whales here! 🐳 🐋
Love this. I'd love it if you'd take on the Millennium Falcon. Try to make it's interior fit with a 3D model.
Unless there are cases you didn't mention, I don't understand the reluctance to go with the 150 meter reference...
- Star Trek III ramp shot (150m)
- Star Trek IV whaling ship shot (150m)
- Star Trek IV nose shot (74m)
- Star Trek IV ramp shot (56m)
So... Somehow 150 is discounted when it comprises half of the reference shots mentioned?
I think it's because he's focusing on Star Trek IV in particular, and 2/3rds of the reference shots in IV depict it much smaller than 150m. Star Trek III is the only other source which supports the 150m length, which is otherwise a total outlier in ST IV, so there is a certain logic to discounting it even if, putting both films together, there are more reference shots for 150m.
And with the original design size of 109.7 to 110 meters, too.
Or, in the Haynes BoP Manual, 139 meters.
Haha! The BOP, Defiant, and Attack Ship sizes are what they want to be. They've been seen in close proximity to each other. The Enterprises have pretty indisputable sizes, as does Voyager. Every time an Enterprise and BOP is shown together, the scale seems to change.
Look at the change in size between 3 and 5, when it appears slightly shorter than Grissom and more than a third of the Enterprise refit. Then, one appears over 1701-A, at less than a quarter.
Filmmakers NEVER respect the integrity of the narrative’s universe as much as writers.
That's because the writers don't have to actually make things happen....
Unless the writers come up with some bs like magic mushroom propulsion.
Consistency has been the bane of Trek.
You should check out the Klingon fleets depicted in DS9. Those B'rel ships tend to come in all sizes, lol.
I love nerding over ST like that :). Good job mate!
Yeah dog. Just something on my mind when I was a kid in the 80s because, you know, school was too institutional. This all came back to me when the Haynes B'Rel came out and explained, well, the Kvort looks the same and is bigger, and Klingons build to their needs or affordability, and gave dimensional variance. Never *knew* that one before I read that, dig? In STO B'Rel & Kvort are finite, which I'll counter doesn't befit it's legacy as the Empirical workhorse. They did eventually make a shuttle type bird of prey, it was only required for a couple of missions, they style points & steering / ballast gravimetric quality were lost or ignored by players because it had way less fire power & shield strength. *Sigh.* Excellent video!
Remember the old Klingon saying, "Measure once, cut twice!"
With special effects anything fits.. Hollywood magic folks.
You should do videos about the new dune movie. You should talk about the ships, the planets, cultures, languages. Honestly, there’s a lot to talk about even in just one movie. For me, I’m especially fascinated by the language and culture of the fremen and the sardaukar.
Awesome video, thanks! 🔥🔥🔥
For years I've wondered the same thing! So it does work!
Amazing work. So well done.
According to the official Star Trek website a Klingon bird of prey is 110 metres long and 60 metres wide. So yeah you can build a whale tank housing two hump back whales
The best way to think of the Bird or Prey is that it’s the name of a “Make” rather than a “Model” like Ford, Toyota etc. All Bird or Prey follow a similar design aesthetic but individual models can vary significantly.
I love the detail you've gone into here and as always, your 3D models are great quality. Nice video.
6:41 Yes! Reconfigure the cargo bay! Thank you!
Well done. We know that they made many nearly completely visually identical Bird of Prey variants throughout Trek that differed greatly in size. Aside from the whales, no one has ever explained why the BOP bridge in The Search for Spock was completely different than it was in The Voyage Home. One non canon source I recall suggested that what we saw in STIII was actually a battle\tactical center\bridge from a lower deck with the STIV set being the command bridge. Redoing the set do differently never made much sense even allowing that it had minimal screentime in STIII. If they wanted a better set, they could have just said it was reconstructed after being stripped off useful equipment\tech on Vulcan for intelligence purposes... Yet then make the bridge displays Federation or at the very least Vulcan. But then every following BOP bridge used this set
I've seen a comparison of 5 different Bird Of Prey designs, ranging from 50m to 700m depending on which episode it comes from. Bottom line: there is more than 1 type of BoP and it can be any size necessary to make the movie work!
There’s so many questions to answer in life. But this…. THIS needed analysis.
“It’s not just the whales! It’s the water!”
Star Trek IV is my favourite movie, yet I've never asked that question. Thank you for answering it before I asked it.
#heyECHenry Can you please make the hero ship from star trek picard actually look like a star trek shop (like you did with that one star wars ship that car company did, porsh or audi i think)
I actually did this -- I just never featured it in a RUclips video.
@@ECHenry where can i go to see that?
@@ECHenry I'd become a patreon member just to see that, well that and plus everything else you make is just A.M.A.Z.I.N.G!
@@thelegoguy7 I have at least one post about it on my Instagram account. Just search for me there.
@@ECHenry thank you!
I have another question for this movie.
When Sulu delivers the transparent aluminum via Helicopter, we see Scotty looking out of the top of the cloaked ship, WHERE does the Bird of Prey open on the top so you can lower cargo like that from a Helicopter into the Cargo bay? ...i got the model right here, i do not see where a sunroof would go.
I vaguely recall the enterprise crew modified the ship to fit their uhm passengers/kidnap victims. Cheers and thanks for the vid! 😄
When the Bird of Prey rematerialized above the whaling vessel, that gives you a good idea of the massive size of the ship.
So it's still bigger than a C-5 Galaxy right !?
God I'd love to see a FULL SCALE replica of this Bad Boy/Girl especially since the Millennium Falcon has been made and other Star Wars vehicles !
Never mind Las Vegas almost having a Full size replica of THE ENTERPRISE !
At some point, EC Henry is going to somehow make a full bridge of the Intrepid from Enterprise from it only one shot.
For the umpteenth time - it was the ROMULAN "Bird Of Prey" because of the way their ships were painted. The Klingon ships were referred to as "Battle Cruisers".
Great work, as always! Your videos involving the quirks or designs of various starships are always my favorite! Very well done, and thought-provoking.
A bit off-topic I was watching an old Trekyards video featuring you, where you talked about your Pacific 201 Romulan Bird of Prey. In that, you mentioned you had designs for a Romulan battlecruiser, but, to my knowledge you've never shown them. Will we ever get to see those?
5:01 Just checked Wikipedia. Adult humpbacks are usually 12-16 metres long. So a 20 metre long cargo bay can easily handle the length. In terms of width, the average fin span of a humpback is 4.5 metres. So a 12 metre wide bay can accomadate two whales with 3 metres of space beteen them.
In filming terms I think a 3/4 scale mockup of the bridge module for the water tank scenes is pretty reasonable so I could buy a 100' bird of prey.
Very cool! But I was hoping you would also investigate the location and size of the cargo doors on top that Sulu lowered the plexiglass into and Kirk and the whales swam up out of.
It is possible the walkway that runs parallel to the cargo bay could be moveable by design to allow variable cargo spaces. For example, they might move it over to one side so troops can fit one one side, while larger vehicles and cargo containers would fit on the other side of the cargo bays.
I love the ships you make on Star Trek Online! Cant wait for the new Steamrunner.
Cool, I wondered too! Surprised there was no mention of whale size, unless I missed it.
The amount of effort you all put into this is amazing. I'm not even a Trekkie or whatever the hell you people are called, and I'm impressed and watch the whole video. LMAO
One big problem with this, is that the corridor leading off of the cargo bay would be a door into open space, if it was arranged in the way you show. Maybe the Klingons took a nod from Harry Potter and fill their ships with shifting cargo bays and corridors lol
I always thought there were multiple models of the "Bird of Prey" within the klingon empire. They look all the same from the outside and just differ in size drastically. I even remember reading about this fact in an official Startrek publication. So there might be a BoP with a length of 50 meters and there might be a BoP with a length of nearly 200 meters.
The Transporter system is a basic scanner/printer combo. And any scanner printer combo has software for scaling. You have a 60 foot whale and a 30 foot cargo bay, scan the whales and then scale them down before you print into the cargo bay, and enlarge from the cargo bay to the to the water.
Love it. This is my kind of unnecessary overthinking. :-)