Frank Mann! Keep rotating on the local fields. It's fun to play "Where in the world is Dan Blewett?" B and C moves looked similar. Could not tell much difference in feet. My guess is B, A, C, but Ray Herrmann's guess could also be correct.
I honestly forgot what my intent was on the first one, so I think BAC was right. And yeah - Frank Mann is terrific for a public field. Few full-size fields in the DC area with a mound.
As a pitcher, nice video… play Chris Lane never had a middle of the road medium Picasso I just went slow and fast. Amazing. How is the new MLB rules have changed their philosophy of pick offs lol. why a disclaimer that this is not pitching advice?
Hey coach do you have any videos on drills for staying in line coach expecting a bit out of me pitching on varsity need to get consistent with staying in line
When throwing to first from the set, the right foot does not have to move forward and disconnect as the video says. I get that you mean, but the right foot is the pivot foot and you can turn on it with a step with the left to first or the best is a slide with the pivot foot toward third and step to first and throw. It is not illegal to step forward a bit to make sure your cleats do not catch on the rubber during that quick move to first. My point is that you do not have to move the pivot foot to throw to first but it is slow and akward. Can you---yes. My issue is with the word disconnect. Disconnect to me means to step back off the rubber with the pivot foot.
@@DanBlewett you demonstrate sliding the pivot foot and telling us that the pivot foot must disconnect. Your words. While that might be the conventional way, these days, moving that pivot foot is not required by rule. So the way you teach the pickoff to first for a righty is the way most coaches teach it. Since about 1900 pitchers have been allowed to slide right and in front of the rubber because umpires can not see what the pitcher does any way. I contend that a righty can throw to first just like a lefty. Pick up the front foot and step toward first. Or 2nd, or third. Just step the way you are going to throw. You can slide the pivot foot or turn on the pivot foot. But not required by rule or practice. No doubt you will have better balance and perhaps less apt to throw it in the stands.
I always did this move and got people at first, but half the umps in our leagues would call it a balk. Any suggestions on how to explain to umps during games that this is a legal move?
If it's as issue the coach should address it before games. I've asked young umps what they call a balk, and then ask them specifically about a legal but aggressive move, and discuss as necessary.
nah. this is the pick off move I've done my whole life. Never a balk. I'm not exactly sure its possible to not move the front foot slightly first because of the weight distribution - your back leg will always have more weight on it, which causes the subtle first move. Good question!
During the wind up, when does a pitcher have to deliver to the plate or get called for a balk. Mainly asking about the front leg crossing the plant leg. Balk vs legal pickoff
@@DanBlewett I am explaining it poorly. From the stretch, pitcher comes to the set position. Begins picking up the front leg and moving it backwards. How far back can they come with the front leg/foot before they " have" to deliver the ball towards the plate? Right handed pitcher, pickoff to 3rd.
@@DanBlewett IE. Right handed pitcher in the stretch. Comes to set position, decernible stop. Starts pitching motion by picking up from leg. Front leg crosses past pivot foot. Then throws to occupied 3rd base. Balk or not?
Dan, thank you. Always enjoyed your video. At 5:41, is the subtitle a typo? Should be fast hands on this one? 😅 Also I am curious when you intentionally show the slowest move to the runner: with slow feet, if the umpire visually see you moving the right foot first (instead of stepping the left foot first towards first base), what’s the risk of umpire calling balk? I thought I heard at more advanced levels, runners are trained to watch the feet/ankle movement of the pitcher to decide when to run or if there is no more risk of pickoff throw. Your thoughts? Thank you.
Ah, dang. yeah thats a typo. oh well. No one ever called a balk on any of the moves shown, even though the left typically moves first. Yes, runners look at the feet, but the idea of "there is no more risk of a pickoff" is nonsense. They cant predict the future. The right foot is supposed to move first.
@@DanBlewett I asked because I personally have a hard time understanding that part of the balk rules, and *what* runners are trained to look for in the pitcher’s feet movement. I’ve not played in organized baseball before. I help my son in his baseball. His age group and league, has not started primary lead-off for runners. As such, there is no need for pitchers to worry about pickoff. And the ump’s are not calling balk rules yet. That said, my son sometimes get called to play as fill-in on select ball team. In those leagues they play with the full OBR, so lead-off, steal, etc. What I remember from OBR regarding balk, is from the set position, the pitcher must “step towards the base (with the free foot) and throw”. Where this gets a bit confusing for me, is whether the pitcher is allowed to pickup/rotate the pivot foot, AND THEN step towards the base and throw. Several videos on YT seem to conflict in this interpretation. 2019’s OBR has not specifically made a side comment in that section yet either to help clarify.
everything I explained here with regard to footwork is correct. pick off footwork isnt a complex thing. rear foot should move first, then front foot, if the front foot flinches a tiny bit it wont be noticable.
Question: In the slow mo you can see your front foot start to move before your back, this isn't legal, correct?. In college this was taught to us as a "Balk Move". When done quick enough you might get the running just a tad off balance as they watch the front foot. But it's quick enough the Umpire doesn't catch it.
Yes, I realize this - in reality, it's legal in the sense that no one calls it because umpires dont have slow motion cameras. And, understand that I used that move my whole career and it was never once called a balk (and my move was average, at best). It's not really possible to move the rear leg first give the fact that all pitchers load slightly more weight onto their back leg. As long as it's not unbelievably obvious, it's fine.
everything in this video is legal and correct. Nothing has changed, but many people (including your "league") don't know or teach the game properly. For further proof, watch an MLB or college game on TV - you'll see exactly zero pitchers stepping off the rubber to pick off to first; you'll instead see them doing the exact move I show in this video.
@@DanBlewett I have a coach that doesn't have a good understanding of baseball (I don't live in the US) and as a pitcher I need to know and learn everything by myself. And btw thank you very much for all the videos you make and for answering to my questions :)
you do not need to "throw the runner off" or "mess up their timing" with a lob. If you throw to a base, you throw with the intent of getting an out. There's a reason you never, ever, ever see a college or pro pitcher lob the ball to first.
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Great video... I really like the idea of 3 different pickoff move speeds to lull the baserunner into a bigger lead... solid idea!
Helpful stuff Coach! I say Medium move, fastest, then slowest.
C,A,B
The slow motion breakdown was helpful
Nice work
Loving the excellent content! Priceless
Thanks Coach good to know
Great video! Appreciate your videos.
Thanks for watching!
Frank Mann! Keep rotating on the local fields. It's fun to play "Where in the world is Dan Blewett?"
B and C moves looked similar. Could not tell much difference in feet. My guess is B, A, C, but Ray Herrmann's guess could also be correct.
I honestly forgot what my intent was on the first one, so I think BAC was right. And yeah - Frank Mann is terrific for a public field. Few full-size fields in the DC area with a mound.
@@DanBlewett BAC is correct
B,A,C
As a pitcher, nice video… play Chris Lane never had a middle of the road medium Picasso I just went slow and fast. Amazing. How is the new MLB rules have changed their philosophy of pick offs lol. why a disclaimer that this is not pitching advice?
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B, C, then A
B,A,C
Hey coach do you have any videos on drills for staying in line coach expecting a bit out of me pitching on varsity need to get consistent with staying in line
im not sure I do
@@DanBlewett aww man I’m trying to find videos and I can’t find any
B C A IS THE ORDER
Looks like both feet moving at same time in slow-mo on some of those moves. Great video though. Gracias
When throwing to first from the set, the right foot does not have to move forward and disconnect as the video says. I get that you mean, but the right foot is the pivot foot and you can turn on it with a step with the left to first or the best is a slide with the pivot foot toward third and step to first and throw. It is not illegal to step forward a bit to make sure your cleats do not catch on the rubber during that quick move to first. My point is that you do not have to move the pivot foot to throw to first but it is slow and akward. Can you---yes. My issue is with the word disconnect. Disconnect to me means to step back off the rubber with the pivot foot.
“Slide with the pivot foot toward third?” What in the world are you talking about
@@DanBlewett you demonstrate sliding the pivot foot and telling us that the pivot foot must disconnect. Your words. While that might be the conventional way, these days, moving that pivot foot is not required by rule. So the way you teach the pickoff to first for a righty is the way most coaches teach it. Since about 1900 pitchers have been allowed to slide right and in front of the rubber because umpires can not see what the pitcher does any way.
I contend that a righty can throw to first just like a lefty. Pick up the front foot and step toward first. Or 2nd, or third. Just step the way you are going to throw. You can slide the pivot foot or turn on the pivot foot. But not required by rule or practice. No doubt you will have better balance and perhaps less apt to throw it in the stands.
I always did this move and got people at first, but half the umps in our leagues would call it a balk. Any suggestions on how to explain to umps during games that this is a legal move?
If it's as issue the coach should address it before games. I've asked young umps what they call a balk, and then ask them specifically about a legal but aggressive move, and discuss as necessary.
Why are they calling it a balk?
Every rule says you have to step backwards to disconnect from the mound. I feel like this would be called a balk a lot?
no, its never a balk. and every pitcher on TV does it every single night.
Very good explanation and yes new to me. At 6:34, would the subtle first move with the left foot be considered a balk? Thanks.
nah. this is the pick off move I've done my whole life. Never a balk. I'm not exactly sure its possible to not move the front foot slightly first because of the weight distribution - your back leg will always have more weight on it, which causes the subtle first move. Good question!
B-A-C is my guess.
What about slow feet fast arm? 😅
During the wind up, when does a pitcher have to deliver to the plate or get called for a balk.
Mainly asking about the front leg crossing the plant leg.
Balk vs legal pickoff
you dont pick off from the wind up
@@DanBlewett
I am explaining it poorly. From the stretch, pitcher comes to the set position. Begins picking up the front leg and moving it backwards. How far back can they come with the front leg/foot before they " have" to deliver the ball towards the plate?
Right handed pitcher, pickoff to 3rd.
@@DanBlewett
IE.
Right handed pitcher in the stretch. Comes to set position, decernible stop. Starts pitching motion by picking up from leg. Front leg crosses past pivot foot. Then throws to occupied 3rd base. Balk or not?
I dont know, this is too confusing using words, sorry
Dan, thank you. Always enjoyed your video.
At 5:41, is the subtitle a typo? Should be fast hands on this one? 😅
Also I am curious when you intentionally show the slowest move to the runner: with slow feet, if the umpire visually see you moving the right foot first (instead of stepping the left foot first towards first base), what’s the risk of umpire calling balk?
I thought I heard at more advanced levels, runners are trained to watch the feet/ankle movement of the pitcher to decide when to run or if there is no more risk of pickoff throw.
Your thoughts?
Thank you.
Ah, dang. yeah thats a typo. oh well. No one ever called a balk on any of the moves shown, even though the left typically moves first. Yes, runners look at the feet, but the idea of "there is no more risk of a pickoff" is nonsense. They cant predict the future. The right foot is supposed to move first.
@@DanBlewett
I asked because I personally have a hard time understanding that part of the balk rules, and *what* runners are trained to look for in the pitcher’s feet movement.
I’ve not played in organized baseball before. I help my son in his baseball. His age group and league, has not started primary lead-off for runners. As such, there is no need for pitchers to worry about pickoff. And the ump’s are not calling balk rules yet.
That said, my son sometimes get called to play as fill-in on select ball team. In those leagues they play with the full OBR, so lead-off, steal, etc.
What I remember from OBR regarding balk, is from the set position, the pitcher must “step towards the base (with the free foot) and throw”.
Where this gets a bit confusing for me, is whether the pitcher is allowed to pickup/rotate the pivot foot, AND THEN step towards the base and throw.
Several videos on YT seem to conflict in this interpretation. 2019’s OBR has not specifically made a side comment in that section yet either to help clarify.
everything I explained here with regard to footwork is correct. pick off footwork isnt a complex thing. rear foot should move first, then front foot, if the front foot flinches a tiny bit it wont be noticable.
@@DanBlewett
I see. Thank you.
Question: In the slow mo you can see your front foot start to move before your back, this isn't legal, correct?. In college this was taught to us as a "Balk Move". When done quick enough you might get the running just a tad off balance as they watch the front foot. But it's quick enough the Umpire doesn't catch it.
Yes, I realize this - in reality, it's legal in the sense that no one calls it because umpires dont have slow motion cameras. And, understand that I used that move my whole career and it was never once called a balk (and my move was average, at best). It's not really possible to move the rear leg first give the fact that all pitchers load slightly more weight onto their back leg. As long as it's not unbelievably obvious, it's fine.
Tell me why my league says you have to step over the rubber? Has something changed
everything in this video is legal and correct. Nothing has changed, but many people (including your "league") don't know or teach the game properly. For further proof, watch an MLB or college game on TV - you'll see exactly zero pitchers stepping off the rubber to pick off to first; you'll instead see them doing the exact move I show in this video.
Does this apply to left handed pitchers to 3rd?
no. and never, ever, ever pick off to third
@@DanBlewett I have a coach that doesn't have a good understanding of baseball (I don't live in the US) and as a pitcher I need to know and learn everything by myself.
And btw thank you very much for all the videos you make and for answering to my questions :)
Yeah but you should literally never pick off to third. No coach teaches it to lefties.
There's actually a purpose to lobbing the ball over. It's to throw the runner off and mess up their timing
you do not need to "throw the runner off" or "mess up their timing" with a lob. If you throw to a base, you throw with the intent of getting an out. There's a reason you never, ever, ever see a college or pro pitcher lob the ball to first.
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It looked like a long arm and quick feet so I think it was B
Could you just step over with your left leg?
Way to help the lefties out
you'll be fine
BAC
B, A, C?
Why isn’t -a- not a balk?
google the balk rules
1. C
2. C
3. C
All your pickoff moves look the same to this untrained eye