7 Toughest First Bosses Who Caught Players By Surprise
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A good first boss can really set the scene for what the rest of the game is about, and over the years Final Fantasy has featured some real bangers. In this video, we wanted to run-through some of the toughest, from the Guard Scorpion, all the way through to the Scorpion Sentinel and Chaos Advent...!
00:00 Introduction
01:36 Guard Scorpion (Final Fantasy VII)
03:20 Scorpion Sentinel (Final Fantasy 7 Remake)
04:38 Mist Dragon (Final Fantasy IV)
06:00 Famfrit (Final Fantasy Tactics Advance)
07:43 Magus Sisters (Final Fantasy XIV: Endwalker)
09:27 Behemoth (Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII)
10:41 Chaos Advent (Stranger of Paradise: Final Fantasy Origin)
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It isn't the actual first boss, but the first truly tough boss in FF9 is Black Mage #1 and Sealion. Considering that you have to take down both with just Zidane.
Especially when you try and steal all the goodies.
@@KephasAIEor are doing any kind of challenge run (max stats or lvl 1) at which point you need not only a good supply of potions, but the luck to not be high rolled constantly or actually get closer to trance with every hit suffered
Mage Masher makes all the difference.
Easy unless you're trying to steal the Gladius (which you should be). Otherwise Trance'll make quick work of them.
Bro this fight wasn't hard at all. I just kept stealing and hi potion until trance 😅
The way this guy says Behemoth lmfao
I'm always caught off guard with the way you pronounce Behemoth lol.
I love the closing line! "And that as they say is that." - Maechen (Final Fantasy X)
Oh great, I read that in his absolute terrible voice 😅 god, I hated the way he talked!
I'm glad that the first battle of Stranger of Paradise is in here. I just started the game and I am struggling at that part right now. 😂
You re not alone. Chaos advent is the only boss made me reply more than 10 times in this game . After that, next bosses only killed around me 2-3 times.
@@qilinmanjarou6810 Chaos Advent almost feels like a taste of what YOU'RE going to become as you play. That speed, that mixing of techniques and lethality... BOOM.
God that first time facing scorpion sentinal in remake during the demo. Had me so ridiculously hyped for the release. I felt an excitement for a game id not felt before.
I think when I played the FF7R demo, I said to myself, "It's so nice to be excited for a game again." I don't play a lot of video games, and Square Enix has sort of become the only publisher I play games from now (not all of SE's games, mind you, but their games probably "get me" the most, especially their stuff aimed at the new JRPG fanbase). I literally played FFXV from when I got it in February of 2017 until whenever Remake came out...and that is about the ONLY game I played during those years. I just did not find anything else worth my time. This is why I'm happy for this FF7 remake era (aside from the recent Crisis Core, lol...and aside from a few voice acting changes). I know I'll finally be eating good with games for awhile. In the meantime while we wait for part 2 of this era, I'm now playing Nier: Automata (after playing Remake exclusively since 2020) and I said the same thing once more...it's good to be excited for a game again.
100% It was insane
Very well designed and fine tuned battle. It leaves you on the edge of defeat a lot while still presenting a chance to come back
I would talk about Manasvin Warmech from FF13. If the first encounter is really easy at the beginning of the game, the second fight is much harder (and it's technically the first real Boss since we just opened up the Paradygm System). The fight is not easy at this point and many players died on it.
One that stood out to me was Firemane from Final Fantasy XII. Just how hard it hit for a first boss was quite a wakeup call.
It wasn't the first boss though. It was the second. The first was the bog standard tutorial boss.
it can also be weakened by bringing it into the water fun fact but if not he can be tough at lower levels
The opening bombing mission may be one of the most iconic and most important opening segments in all of gaming history. It does such a good job of engrossing players, both in the original and in Remake, and the Guard Scorpion/Scorpion Sentinel is such an iconic boss design. Everything about FFVII's opening is absolutely perfect (minus that poor translation).
Honestly, there are so many firsts, technical and otherwise, in the OG that I have to tell the story of one of the least appreciated technology leaps in gaming history:
FMVs had already become a popular way to deliver cutscenes on PCs, in the early 2ks, but no one had ever really managed the transition to FMV and back very well. The technology for seamless swaps between the two modes didn't truly exist yet.
Consoles, especially, had a rich tradition of doing a lot with very little in the way of resources. lt was so bad that the prevailing wisdom of the time was to create a save state, dump the memory running most of the game, load a video player, play the FMV, dump the player, reload the game, world, and state, then FINALLY return control to the player. As you can imagine, the loading times murdered the pacing and immersion. But whatcha gonna do, become a gd sorcerer?
Even the engineers at Sony, while creating the PS1, assumed that this was still going to be the case with their console too. That's why we got a player baked into the original Playstation's hardware; the original feature was meant for devs to offload some of the coding tedium with the hardware API, and it would get adopted as a standard. The story goes that the consumer app we got was just a bonus that arrived when someone in the marketing dept hounded the engineering team for sellable features, so someone extended the memory card manager GUI to also use the player for music and other media.
Anyway, the actual gd sorcerers working on FF7 managed to lower the memory footprint low enough-which is a contributing factor to why we're STILL finding bugs in a 25 year old game-that they could just barely fit a custom player that used features from the hardware API to give it legs.
It was such a big deal that they showcased it at the very beginning of the bombing mission. That moment the train crawls to a stop, there's a seamless transition between FMV and gameplay. That was the first time that had ever happened in a video game, and it was such an impressive engineering feat that that the devs lead with it.
Most games, after that, used a variation of that technique until realistic, in-engine graphics were finally ready to take the stage. But, prior to that, FF7 pioneered and used that tech like an artist's brush all over the game.
I think the translation was more of a misunderstanding in how it was delivered with poor punctuation. “Attack while it’s tails up, it’s gonna counter attack “ is how it was intended I’m sure.
Yes, you are right about Stranger of Paradise. I'm not a souls-like player, but I love Final Fantasy, so I want to keep trying until I beat that first boss
It was through this channel I first heard of this Stranger of Paradise, though, I do play Dark Souls and I want to check it out now, my curiosity is peaked, I enjoyed the first game when I first played the GBA version 14 years ago now!
@@CD-Gaming Game is fun, story is terrible tho until the final DLC
SoP was a dream come true for me. Sadly the game is not good enough. neede more budget.
As someone who was hard headed enough to try to defeat the Scorpion Sentinel without staggering I can vouch I learned my lesson...
The first tutorial encounter in Final Fantasy Mystic Quest can sometimes be unwinnable.
Now this is my kind of thumbnail. CHAAAAAAOOOOS!
The way you said behemoth has me thinking a lot
Same here!!!
Barthandelus was a boss, that put you in check multiple times
I played of stranger of paradise and I'm so glad they put that first boss in to clock players who thought this game was gonna be easy.
I spent an evening just hunkering down and getting good at that fight.
You really have to use your party members special attacks to help with breaking through.
also swapping classes really helps and using magic helps a lot too!
I tried to go in as only a monk class cuz I loved the move set, but the damage just wasn't enough.
Mastering the perry is also NEEDED!
That and Tiamat were the toughest bosses for me personally.
toughest regular enemy was the tonberries everytime.
Not a particularly hard boss itself, but defeating the Whelk’s shell in FF6 is a true test.
…of patience.
Especially since it has 65,000 HP NOT really worth it sure Terra COULD use Break on it for a instant kill but considering that spell is only usable AT LV 69 its NOT worth lving up Terra Solo THAT high.
All for an elixir
@@ace-trainer-aj didn't stop me :)
@@veghesther3204much easier would be to just spend a half hr attacking the shell. It runs out of MP to counter attack fairly quickly
The Scorpion Sentinel caught me so off guard during my first Hardmode run in the Remake.
"Here comes his tail again, just wait behind the rubble. Okay he fired its Laser time to atta.. WHY DOES HE FIRE TWICE?!"
Tell me about it. I had to grind to level 50 just to take scorpion sentinel on hard. Hard mode got easier once I got used to it and could grind out some decent stats boosting materia, but that mech caused me more trouble than some of the later game bosses.
Quick note on magus sisters in FFXIV - (edit)Cindy was the tankiest by far, but you HAD to kill her first, because she was the healer of the group and if you killed another sister she would just revive them and reset part of your progress.
Glad to hear they kept that intact as it was the same in FFIV. Failing to kill tubby first meant the entire fight just became an exercise in futility.
Cindurva is the healer no?
You mean Cindy. She has to be killed first.
You meant Cindy (yellow one), she could revive others ;)
@@morteaux3662 yeah whoops my mistake
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How do you pronounce Behemoth? Is the way you pronounce it the correct way? All my life is Be-He-Moth. The way i hear it in this vid is Bea-a-Moth if im hearing it correctly. Your English is outstanding, im just wonder if they way you pronounce it is the norm.
Never heard anyone say “BEYA-moth” before, haha. It’s not a fantasy word, Union, it’s a real word! Be-HEE-muth!
I literally came here to see if anyone else noticed that as well. I am all about the pronunciation of words being unique to varying dialects. I have plenty words I say that most say a different way so I get it, but I also genuinely want to know if the way someone else pronounces a word is the "correct" way or not, and sometimes I correct myself if I am way off. hahah
@@Husky610 yea that’s why came here too lol. I didn’t mean to be such a “Mmwell ackshually” guy, because I did actually learn the intended way to say Bahamut from this channel. It made me do a double take when I heard him though, like, was I SURE I’ve heard the word out in the real world? It could just be a dialect thing, since I’m in the U.S.
Cloud says the line about the tail laser, not Barret! Your footage even shows this!!
I was about to say that myself!
@@genikit5795 pretty unforgivable, their punishment... err... solo battle against Carry Armour with only command materia at level 17
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I remember struggling a lot against the flame-horse enemy you fight in the waterways of Final Fantasy 12. If you don't count Marks as bosses (I don't) or the heavily scripted prologue, that random powerful enemy cutting your path can destroy you if you're not prepared.
I know its not a Final Fantasy, but I remember that Braverly Default even the first bosses could become a pain.
Thank you for mentioning FFTA. Gawd I had nightmares as a kid fighting Famfrit
FFVII was my first RPG, back when I was only ten years old. I followed exactly what Barrett told me to do and game overed so many times, I just couldn't understand why it didn't work. It took an older friend explaining to attack when it's tail was down for me to get it and my life long obsession with Final Fantasy was pretty much born in that moment 😅
While not technically a Final Fantasy title, I'd throw in an honorable mention to the Griffon in Lost Odyssey. It's made by Hironobu Sakaguchi, and I feel like it's close enough in tone to fit. That boss was utterly brutal for how early you faced it.
Surprised you didn't mention Chaos from Dissidia Duodecim! When you boot up the game for the first time, it asks if you know how to play and if you say yes then it throws you in at Lv1 against Chaos at Lv99... It can be beat, though, as far as I'm aware, though, I have no idea what you get for it if anything at all worth mentioning in the long run...
Wasn't it Feral Chaos at Lv 120? Literally the final Boss.
@@Sora-MMK Yeah, I'm not 100%, been a while since I last played Dissidia...
The Magus Sisters are among my favourite dungeon bosses in all of FFXIV just because of how utterly chaotic Delta Attack is! You'll notice patterns after doing the fight often enough and that makes things easier to dodge, but it's always a fun time watching players run around like headless chickens when a dozen AOEs appear at once. Getting Tower of Zot in leveling roulette is always a treat!
Man first getting to that a year ago with my friends was some of my favorite moments. The music, Finality, just fit the tone of the chaos. It was just so beautifully done
When me and my fc ran through We were totally unprepared for the chaos that ensued. I, as an anxiety ridden healer, had a very hard time with this and needless to say we wiped once lol. But I still loved the fight and the music, it was *chefs kiss*
Not a final fantasy game, but the first bosses of Octopath traveler are all surprisingly difficult.
There's 0 difficulty in any of the two OT games outside of their secret final boss.
Man, I remember the first time I fought the Guard Scorpion in the original FF7. Had both Cloud and Barret set to attack as the tail raised. Two counters for 100 damage when neither both had been dropped to around 200 HP from traveling and fighting the boss. First time I ever saw the Game Over Screen when playing it. Not the last, though.
Don't forget that you end up figuring the final boss immediately if you make the wrong selection at the start of one of the Dissidia games.
Yup, #1 checks out. I'd never played a Souls type game before, so this was all new to me. Took me SO LONG to get the hang of the combat. That said, once I got the rhythm worked out, this became one of my favorite FF bosses of all games.
Were people really confused by what Barret said during the Guard Scorpion battle?
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So the only thing i gotta mention is, while I do agree with the slight translation error, I never had an issue with the first boss of FF7 because the translation to me, was still enough to be wary about the tail.
The other thing, Barrett never says this. Cloud is the one who tells Barrett this as it's even shown in the dialogue box shown when you talk about it.
Still enjoy the lists you do!
The scorpion in Remake was difficult for me when the shield came up. I didn't understand what I was supposed to do to get it to lower. I don't think I died but maybe once in all of the times I fought it, but it would take me a long time to beat it because of still not understanding what to do there. I think I just shot it with Barret, even if it was pointless. Hitting it with Cloud was a definite no-no as it would quickly retaliate and Cloud being close-up made him mincemeat.
Ifrit in Final Fantasy VIII can be tricky as well when you don’t figure out the junction system. I know I didn’t when I was a kid. Combine that with a time limit and it was quite intense for little young me.
Another part about the Magus Sister in FFXIV was that it set the Endwalker precedent that bosses will use their tank buster attacks *much* sooner than dungeon bosses tend to use it; usually within the first few seconds. Typically tanks can go through their burst DPS phase before having to focus on defense. This was not the case anymore with Endwalker.
That thumbnail though
Chaos!
I remember that translation in the original FF7 and thought Barret must be as dumb as a box of rocks.
The golem fight at the beginning of FFXIV with a black mage was a nightmare for me lol it was much easier when I did it as a Paladin during a replay
For me it was the one with the demon thing at I think lvl 15? I eventually broke down and bought some antidotes to take care of the poison that was killing me over and over. That was almost 10 years ago. Damn...
First time playing FFVII, I didn't understand Guard Scorpion's counter mechanic. So I just ate both Tail Lasers, healed up afterwards, then unleashed my Limit Breaks.
I have never in my life heard Behemoth pronounced like that
I really want to play Stranger of Paradise, but I'm not good at Team Ninja games. To this day I'm still stuck on the second boss of Ninja Gaiden Black.
You can choose an easier mode so you can enjoy the story :-) So i'd say, go for it
@@CetteSara I didn't know they did that. That's cool.
It’s definitely a fun but difficult game. Just remember if you get it to always equip new loot if it has higher numbers.
@David Winget basically how I play any loot game.
Dang I got the platinum trophy on all 3 ninja gaidens, just takes practice
FF7 Remake, I just got to (Top Secret) Bahamut battle sim for the first time, I’m definitely having issues with this legendary Summon.
I'm going to give you a spot of free advice for that encounter. Hit it hard with thundaga a few times-Aerith's double cast can make this a lot easier-to put him into a pressured state, then que up every stagger building thing you've got between Cloud & Tifa. Do it one more time, just Cloud should be enough this time, because you're about to need Tifa. Have her fully charged and swap to her to rack up the damage % from triangle supers. Then thwack em with thundaga and the Hardedge ability (if you can get enough ATB during the smackdown When you get the countdown, you can stagger him out of it like that if you time it, OR you can use shell-or whatever it's called in this game-you know, protect for magic. That, carbuncle, or a few other things are the only way megaflare won't wipe you. Revival earrings are also an option, since you're in hard mode now and money has become somewhat meaningless.
Just.. don't forget that thundaga whammy on the last battle in the Top Secrets sequence...
I think the Guard Scorpion warning comes from Cloud!
I played VII when I was about 5 or 6 so Guardian Scorpion kicked my ass because I didn't understand I wasn't supposed to attack when the tail was up. Thankfully, my older brother helped me. But today I learned that it _wasn't_ my reading comprehension that was the problem, but a translation error! Haha, well would you know? 😂😂
Sergeant from Final Fantasy II can be a bit of a wake up call boss, it sets the standard about Final Fantasy II bosses boasting high defenses and strong physical attacks.
The mist dragon messed me up when i was s kid. Ff4 was the first RPG i ever played. It taje me four days to get to the desert area. I was so small 😅 i only understand half of the words they was saying. My sister & mother read some of it too me.
The battle against the first Dark Aeon in the modern versions of FF X-2 is hard as hell. I actually gave up and haven't gone back to it. That was about 2 years ago. I should probably make another attempt soon.
Yeah I beat the guard scorpion, but I took plenty of tail lasers because of that translation.
I think the first boss that caught me off guard was the the fishman boss from DQ8 I was level 9 and was flying through all the enemies to farm gear and stuff and the guy was still able to land a 30 hit on me but thankfully i had healing magic so i was able to fight the boss hoping he'd die before me.
My first time playing turn base was FF7, and man, did that scorpion give me problems.
Parasite Eve, I don’t count the fights with Eve as a true boss fight, but that fight in the sewer, I was stuck on it for like 2-3 weeks.
@9:51 it’s pronounced “bay-o-moth” ?🤔
No
I was expecting to see feral chaos from dissidia 012 on here lol
Me too. But i guess if you say "No" at the beginning, you will not fight him until the end, so it's not the first boss for everyone.
Chaos
What the heck is a Bay-Eeh-Moth?!
Ah yes the first boss a constant reminder as to why I like playing ranged/ support characters. I constantly just need that extra space to back up my team as I suck at dodging. As soon as Stranger of Paradise offered me the Gun jobs the game became much more fun for me.
They added guns? I beat the game when it came out but I haven’t played the dlc! I’m gonna have to boot it up.
@@GerikKnight76 the gun jobs were added with the third dlc, and there are other base game jobs that can equip guns, like sage
My favorite strategy for SoP was cheesing the Iframes on the Dragoon's jump attack. Heavy damage and makes you untouchable? Lets you rollover about half the game with that shit
In America, we pronounce Behemoth as Behemoth. I'm still surprised to this day how different the English language is.
I see Jack, i click.
I kind of feel the magus sisters shouldn't be included in this. Even considering the first boss of the expansion rather than the game as a whole, the magus sisters are technically the third boss in that dungeon. Traditionally you could consider the bosses beforehand as sub bosses but the game doesn't make a distinction that the bosses before the last one in a dungeon are lesser outside of gameplay mechanics.
And it only gets harder in strangers from there
Perfect. Guard Scorpion is on the list and its at no.1 and no.2.🎉🎉🎉🎉
"KNOW WHEN YOU'RE BEATEN"
I'm waiting for FF XVI I wonder if it's first boss will be tough.
Atmos from ff5… with out walkthroughs or even with. Insta killing your team so much that you simply want to Phoenix down just so he won’t eat a character.
Also…. Zodark from ff12 is still kicking my butt to this day.. haven’t beat him yet lol
Baya moth?
Ff8 that tarantula was HARD
Remake of the scorpion in 7 is no joke in hard mode
Um, Mist Dragon and Guard Scorpion have the game tell you explicitly when their counterattack is on.
The Thumbnail is so based 😂
I'm pretty sure Cloud says that
#1 is the Cleric Beast!
Chaos Advent was a funny boss. I just sat back and let Jed and Ash fight until the special attack sequence came around.😂 Still took 3 tries but hey it was hilarious. Gotta exploit when you can, right?
I wanted to be in the mix. But for whatever reason(I clearly didn't understand the mechanics) it was one hit then dead for me.
Well i screwed myself looking for the first boss of FF8 in the jungle, not Ifrit cave.
Attack the tail......
And bad things happen
I know its not final fantasy but wo long fallen dynasties 1st boss basically stoped people from playing the game 😅
Chaos from Dissidia D012
This wasn't the first boss in FF V boss that Flame Hand was a really hard early game boss.
For me it was strangers of paradise the tutorial I Could never complete a certain move so I never got past the tutorial
Dude. Hownisnit hard to say Behemoth?
Not sure I agree with all this Guard Scorpion fandom, it did exactly what the FFIV Mist Dragon and FFVI Whelk did. Periodically entering a phase where attacking them resulted in a heavy counter attack. By the time I played FFVII this was already an old mechanic that I was seeing for my 3rd time in a row.
Everyone start asking for a new final fantasy tactics!
Its funny bc i always grind up to level 10 before the 1st boss so its always been easy for me 😂. Kinda my tradition and just like being a god haha
the magus sisters in FF14 are particularly noteworthy because the dungeon is level 81. a huge majority of players have been playing 80 levels worth of dungeons and boss fights at this point, so seeing orange AOE indicators on the ground is nothing special at all. the problem is just how many indicators are thrown all over the everywhere from the sisters, its just a bit silly for a dungeon boss!
this is still very much some of the easiest things to do in the game, but the sisters arent going easy on the rookies.
You also forgot about the Magus Sisters that, if you kill the wrong one first, said dead sister will be rezzed
Famfrit was more Frit than Fam.
Geosgaeno from FFX was very memorable for me.
late game?
You can argue about whether it's a boss, but the first fight against the black knights in FF2 is literally unwinnable without hacks (at least the version I played)
Magus Sisters was a nice step up for final dungeon bosses, then the rest of the dungeons were a snoozefest 😂😂😂 Was kind of a let down really
10:00 I'm sorry what did you say?? "Bey-huh-moth" is it not "Buh-he-muth"?
Garland absolutely FILTERED me. The whole level did. I do not vibe with the story of SOP:FFO, so the gameplay would be the redeeming factor, right? Not for me, sadly.
Not to be "that guy" but that's definitely not how you say behemoth. Buh-hee-muth is correct
7 bosses and 3 of them are from FF7 universe. XD
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