While Rose VT2 can deal a lot of damage, please note that combos in this video are pretty situational (and some require perfect height and/or microwalk). In real match, Rose won't have that many chances to activate V-Trigger raw and start the combo. Most of the time, we will see on hit activation which will scale the combo damage significantly. Also, because the V-Timer is super short for this V-Trigger, she will have only one chance to mixup at best, and it is pretty weak against V-Reversal too. It is indeed a very strong V-Trigger but you won't see this kind of damage that often.
I’d say activating in response tojumpins or dps is one of the things vt2 was designed for and not on-hit stuff. I think the only reason why we see on-hit a lot is simply because she’s new and lots are using it as a combo extender or something.....
I left this in another comment, but I think this v-trigger will have a good amount of utility for getting plus frames from a block-confirm activation. The thing is, since you don't get the damage scaling from a hit activation, the opponent has to block or else they're gonna take the 50% combos from the video. So you get a pretty guaranteed throw, they delay rise to stall time, then you slide for plus frames again and do another throw and then you lose v trigger. So this trigger should be pretty reliable for getting 2 throws worth of damage each activate.
Even with the situational type of combos, saying that comparable damage won't happen often in a real match (to me imho) is near laughably untrue. Now, I can't tell the future (lol) but players with good reactions are gonna see comparable damage to these combos quite often. They might only lose 100 to 150 damage. This is just my opinion though.
It lead to a mix up that you would like to take the throw, if you tech it, got hit by the ball and got full combo too. Unless u use ex dp or something to escape the throw
@@soggytoast111 That's what the raw activation is there for, you literally only have to press two buttons in reaction to your opponent jumping and the screen freezes while you do the dp motion.
Season 5 is looking pretty tense, first with Dan being able to infinite and now we got I can combo what ever the fuck I want Rose, I think things are going to get more crazy from this point Onward
Probably. I wonder if we'll keep if for a while because it's just one combo/mixup whereas vt1 definitely has more utility and can actually get you openings. Right now vt2 is good on hit and block but only because lower levels aren't v reversaling vt2 yet.
I don't think it's good enough as is to be 3-bar. But if they buff it sure, that may be the more fair option. The thing is, you have to activate it raw and then immediately get a hit or it's functionally worthless because of how short the timer and how rough the scaling is. Playing against it, when ppl activate it for plus frames, I just hold down back, take 1-2 throws, and delay rise to stall it out
This would be the worst in game if they did that without giving it some buffs. I think they should make the timer really slow but make it go down more when using heavys and specials. And they should keep it 2 bars. She has no way to open up it's over in seconds you basically have to use a trigger activate combo.
@@theotherothello4354 VT1 isn't that great, you always know where she's gonna end up once she activates. If she could teleport directly in front of her opponent in addition to directly behind it would be better. As it is, it's basically just a weak combo extender.
I hope I never get mixed like this by Rose players lol :D Great job on the transitions edits of the video, it's really cool to jump from one stage onto another through the same special move.
Nah if red terror card was on, she'd be glowing red, and her VS1 would be flashing. EX soul spark just does more damage in VT2 mode, plus Seth is tied with the lowest HP
how is the first one possible ?? when the second cr hp resets the juggle state and how can soulspark hit twice with out beeing ex version and the vtrigger state run out??
I actually don't know the reason but the VT2 effect actually is still there for the crHP and fireball lol The timing to land that first combo is super difficult, you have to microwalk just a little bit before the first crHP, so that the second crHP hit at the cancellable height. But if it's too slow, VT2 will ran out for second crHP. Took me like 30 minutes to record the first combo
She's not. The character is mostly garbage. These combos are extremely situational and almost impossible to pull off in a real match like this. The V-Trigger timer is so short you have to activate precisely at the correct time to hit this hard, which usually means the opponent has to walk into it.
Who cares? Just pick Balrog press 2 buttons into win, or pick Cammy free jump into infinite pressure and throw... Fucking CAPCOM dumbed down their game so hard that the moment they release an interesting/technical character, he is trash tiers now. Gill, Juri and now Rose share the same fate
These combos aren’t activating VT on hit plus a lot of these combos are situational and dependent on meter. So there’s optimization and damage scaling mitigation happening to maximize damage output. You wont see these’s combos happening all the time in real matches.
@@shadowboxkicker it means you have to confirm the hit and learn a really long combo with tricky timing. if you just mash you wouldn't get an optimized combo, wasting your v-gauge.
@@Carlos-ln8fd whoever mashes shouldn't play online. they'll lose most of their matches anyway. We have Juri, Rashid, Akuma etc. that all require difficult execution, but none can do this much damage
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While Rose VT2 can deal a lot of damage, please note that combos in this video are pretty situational (and some require perfect height and/or microwalk). In real match, Rose won't have that many chances to activate V-Trigger raw and start the combo. Most of the time, we will see on hit activation which will scale the combo damage significantly. Also, because the V-Timer is super short for this V-Trigger, she will have only one chance to mixup at best, and it is pretty weak against V-Reversal too. It is indeed a very strong V-Trigger but you won't see this kind of damage that often.
Thank God. Lol
I’d say activating in response tojumpins or dps is one of the things vt2 was designed for and not on-hit stuff. I think the only reason why we see on-hit a lot is simply because she’s new and lots are using it as a combo extender or something.....
Until you meet someone like me that won't mind losing until I land that big boi damage on someone lmao
I left this in another comment, but I think this v-trigger will have a good amount of utility for getting plus frames from a block-confirm activation. The thing is, since you don't get the damage scaling from a hit activation, the opponent has to block or else they're gonna take the 50% combos from the video. So you get a pretty guaranteed throw, they delay rise to stall time, then you slide for plus frames again and do another throw and then you lose v trigger. So this trigger should be pretty reliable for getting 2 throws worth of damage each activate.
Even with the situational type of combos, saying that comparable damage won't happen often in a real match (to me imho) is near laughably untrue. Now, I can't tell the future (lol) but players with good reactions are gonna see comparable damage to these combos quite often. They might only lose 100 to 150 damage. This is just my opinion though.
Whiffing DP on Rose when she has full VT is a literal death sentence, apparently.
Jumping too
when VT does more damage than a CA...
Man that was so much.
Hard combos to land but extreme punish damage
That double jump in combo was sick
It might be stronger than vt1 in terms of raw damage but its a lot harder to actually make good use of it since the uptime is basically nothing
Yeah but it's two bars and rose can build vt really fast. Watch it get nerfed really fast.
Anybody: *whiff DP*
Rose: ＹＯＵＲ ＦＲＥＥ ＴＲＩＡＬ ＯＦ ＬＩＶＩＮＧ ＪＵＳＴ ＥＸＰＩＲＥＤ
edit: also she has unblockables and even OS vs techs with soul punish LMAO
Feel they forgot scaling on her ex fireball
Damn, didn't know Soul Punish could be used on these kinda setups, AND re-jump combos for disgusting post stun damage...
IT'S MAHVEL BAYBEEE
0:53 mother of god
I would’ve broke my controller
It lead to a mix up that you would like to take the throw, if you tech it, got hit by the ball and got full combo too. Unless u use ex dp or something to escape the throw
2:15
Get mixed, son, holy shit
imagine getting punished that hard for jumping
Imagine getting hit with a 13 frame startup AA attack.
@@soggytoast111 That's what the raw activation is there for, you literally only have to press two buttons in reaction to your opponent jumping and the screen freezes while you do the dp motion.
Season 5 is looking pretty tense, first with Dan being able to infinite and now we got I can combo what ever the fuck I want Rose, I think things are going to get more crazy from this point Onward
Is this Marvel vs. Capcom or Street Fighter??? So many juggles
Street Fighters :) that’s what Rose is from
Dbfz
I'm getting Desk vibes here.. You may have outdone him, even.
Great video man, keep it up 👍
They're gonna make it 3 bars
Probably. I wonder if we'll keep if for a while because it's just one combo/mixup whereas vt1 definitely has more utility and can actually get you openings. Right now vt2 is good on hit and block but only because lower levels aren't v reversaling vt2 yet.
IF they're gonna make this a 3 bar Tigger they better increase the v time and nerf the damage by adding more scaling IMO.
I don't think it's good enough as is to be 3-bar. But if they buff it sure, that may be the more fair option. The thing is, you have to activate it raw and then immediately get a hit or it's functionally worthless because of how short the timer and how rough the scaling is. Playing against it, when ppl activate it for plus frames, I just hold down back, take 1-2 throws, and delay rise to stall it out
This would be the worst in game if they did that without giving it some buffs. I think they should make the timer really slow but make it go down more when using heavys and specials. And they should keep it 2 bars. She has no way to open up it's over in seconds you basically have to use a trigger activate combo.
@@theotherothello4354 VT1 isn't that great, you always know where she's gonna end up once she activates. If she could teleport directly in front of her opponent in addition to directly behind it would be better. As it is, it's basically just a weak combo extender.
Capcom:"seems fair lets release her"
Desk approve this video hehe
I hope I never get mixed like this by Rose players lol :D Great job on the transitions edits of the video, it's really cool to jump from one stage onto another through the same special move.
Wow!!! I love me some Rose!
2:49 wait what?? Those fireballs do insane dammage. Was it the tarot card buff?
Vtrigger too, it doubles the fireball
Nah if red terror card was on, she'd be glowing red, and her VS1 would be flashing.
EX soul spark just does more damage in VT2 mode, plus Seth is tied with the lowest HP
Tarrot* lol
@@Crisuki_Misu oh ok thanks
What theme song was the one you use
Whats the name of the music iv been trying to find it
This is why I like rose on SF5.
The first combo damage output from the anti air reminds me of SFA3 Vism.
I’m Definitely sticking with v trigger 2
does the first combo only work on seth?
Tá poderosa! Mas ainda distante de superar o grande mestre do combo: Dan Hibiki!
Very balanced damage output
Holy smokes that's a lot of damage
Capcom, Lets make Rose CRAZZZZY OP so everyone buys her and then nerf her HAHAHA AA
That's the plan.
Wow amazing combo video 🔥🔥💪
That first combo is incredibly difficult.
how is the first one possible ?? when the second cr hp resets the juggle state and how can soulspark hit twice with out beeing ex version and the vtrigger state run out??
I actually don't know the reason but the VT2 effect actually is still there for the crHP and fireball lol The timing to land that first combo is super difficult, you have to microwalk just a little bit before the first crHP, so that the second crHP hit at the cancellable height. But if it's too slow, VT2 will ran out for second crHP. Took me like 30 minutes to record the first combo
0:55 OMG! wtf is that??
That is called death
0:38 BRIAN NOOOOO
ん？１つめのコンボできない。最後の屈強P→スパークが出ない。
屈強Pが根元しかキャンセルかからない。根元でキャンセルかけたら相手復帰する。謎。
一つ目の屈強Pの前に微歩きすればできます。なお、タイミング超難しいです。撮るため結構時間かかりました。
@@HiFightTH 返信ありがとうございます。ダメどれぐらいですか？手持ちの最大が445ですがどれぐらい増えますか？
Hmmm perhaps a small balance update is needed😅
This is the quintessential Street Fighter Alpha 2/Street Fighter IV Rose hybrid.
Pure bullshit and lies makes its return.
This starts looking like blazblue))
Holy clap!
That's a lot of damage !!!!
What’s the name of the theme?
Marina of Fortune (Rose stage) theme
@@HiFightTH Thank you
Se ela for assim vai ser a personagem mais quebrada do game
Relaxa q dps a Capcom nerfa ela igual fizeram com a Menat
hol up, does this mean she gon get nerfed soon?
This can’t be right
Reminds me of Abigail.
Imagine guessing wrong against Rose. wait...
Oh my god
I dont hate rose or anything but these combos make rose looks so strong and Op. Time to get some nerf in next patch lol
She's not. The character is mostly garbage. These combos are extremely situational and almost impossible to pull off in a real match like this. The V-Trigger timer is so short you have to activate precisely at the correct time to hit this hard, which usually means the opponent has to walk into it.
Poor Kage :/
v-trigger on reaction to jump=stupid dmg
So they’re puttin’ Guilty Gear characters into street fighter now?
Guilty who??
I smell nerfs coming lol
Street fighter alpha 3 v-ism
ok dood
What if ono and combofiend were removed b4 launch of sfv?
her soul illusion is very slow compared to street fighter alpha 3🤔
Who cares? Just pick Balrog press 2 buttons into win, or pick Cammy free jump into infinite pressure and throw...
Fucking CAPCOM dumbed down their game so hard that the moment they release an interesting/technical character, he is trash tiers now.
Gill, Juri and now Rose share the same fate
So she has 0 damage scaling?
I'm considering going back to DBFz.
Psyche.
The vt timer last like 4 seconds though
These combos aren’t activating VT on hit plus a lot of these combos are situational and dependent on meter. So there’s optimization and damage scaling mitigation happening to maximize damage output.
You wont see these’s combos happening all the time in real matches.
@@Carlos-ln8fd Thats even worse, the fact that you can get *that* much damage within 4 secs. all you need to do is hit-confirm. *smh violently*
@@shadowboxkicker it means you have to confirm the hit and learn a really long combo with tricky timing. if you just mash you wouldn't get an optimized combo, wasting your v-gauge.
@@Carlos-ln8fd whoever mashes shouldn't play online. they'll lose most of their matches anyway.
We have Juri, Rashid, Akuma etc. that all require difficult execution, but none can do this much damage
Whoa. Before I get blown up on Twitter any further. Lemme just say I love hi fight and I love javits. I watch everything they post. I bought footsies on iPhone and steam. (Great game. Everyone buy that.) I'll continue to support both of them when I can. They do amazing work in the community.
Maybe 'obnoxious" was too harsh and I apologize. I'm simply saying I don't find exhibition styles videos as helpful FOR ME as his other regular stuff. That's it. I get maybe that's not the point of them though and that's cool. I just really like to nerd out on numbers ok? But I'm just some internet rando. By all means ignore lol
If you wanna see my original comment check javits twitter. Aight I'm done. proceed to do your thing, Twitter
That was a really bad comment, the world is a better place without it, good call.
Just what the game needs, another cheap character.