I’m old school and EV’s don’t interest me at all, but…the Renault 5. Absolutely beautiful and with a price tag of just over £20k I think it will sell in large numbers.
I think only losing £6 k is a massive result on an EV ! I personally will not have one because I do not believe the Eco hype behind them, I run 2 x Jags XJ 3.0 D & F type SVR 5.0 petrol. My cars give me immense pleasure my XJ does 40 mpg my SVR does 0 to 60 in 3.5 secs but costs a lot to run. I'm living the dream car wise and have no desire to go EV.
(FOCUS RS) If it's the standard head unit, if you keep it switch on for over 24hours non stop. Which will mean you need to keep a charger on it. It should turn on. When it does turn on it should have restored to factory setting. If that fails ask Ford for the code. You can request it with the chassis number of the car. 👍
Good video. I agree, hybrid can make a lot of sense if you do short journeys daily. If you're driving long distance daily then diesel is your best bet. If you're picking a hybrid then pick one with double the range you need for daily driving to account for cold weather performance and battery depreciation.
Mercedes GLE 350 de - This plug-in hybrid diesel SUV is not only luxurious and exceptionally comfortable, its huge battery enables it to travel a whopping 58 miles on electricity alone. However, it also means it has a pretty small boot for a big, posh SUV.
Richard, 7000 miles cost you £6000 plus your charging costs of up to £200 a week I think you said in a previous video. That is an expensive vehicle to run! I bought my Mk7 Transit van for £6,000 & I filled it up for about £120 drove 376 miles & half a tank of diesel left. So, for what you lost you could have bought my van outright & driven to SW France & back a good few times😂🤣💪
EVs are good if you only do local journeys but if you drive long distances for work or leisure then you need a petrol or diesel car as the stress of looking for chargers is too much
90% of managing a car's depreciation is in the buying. You bought well. People who buy those new at list take the biggest bath. Then again, I don't know anyone who's bought one who wasn't a company director offsetting tax.
I agree that hybrid may be best at this time. Given infrastructure weaknesses in some areas, and warranty issues on full e cars. My wife is driving a Prius in Tennessee, USA. Long term Porsche ICE car owner. Did you consider the NEW e-Macan yet?
Richard Think of How Much Healthier You'll be ... not only in mind but in the Pocket ! New Cars have just lost appeal reliably and depreciation , warranty and design to fail with engine components plastic with electrical gremlins. I have taken to the era when cars were built to last and eat miles in comfort as I can't do with gremlins ... A good old classic Merc Diesel
Battery technology is the obstacle to widespread BEV adoption. The battery is far too heavy, far too expensive, and far too slow to charge. Funnily enough this is exactly why electric cars were left behind by IC engined cars over a century ago. By the time battery technology has advanced to the stage of mass adoption, I suspect that something else will already have taken over, probably hydrogen fuel cells.
Always difficult picking a new car. The BMW 540i xDrive Touring is on top of my list at the moment for a family lugger with a bit of umph for having fun on twisty lanes🙂
Interesting update going back to that Nokia is a sensible choice 😇. Would you also ask your data cruncher to look at costing in your time waiting around and the cake? In all seriousness EV’s seem ideal for those who are only time rich, have home charging for shorter distances, plenty of disposable income or it’s a company car / motability or on a lease scheme. You just wouldn’t buy one out right. For the ordinary person £6k would be a lot of money who’d not be able to play with the tax system, but I suspect the depreciation on a less prestigious marque would be even more, saw a CarWow video the other day the costs are not sustainable for everyday folk. I just don’t see how these vehicles can save the planet or the money in your wallet. Have you thought about just getting an everyday dad car just for running around with the kids and dog?
At least there getting a lesson in reality! Do you remember crossing your fingers that your first banger will get to where you are going! Your right it’s just to early for ev, same for hybrid really as when the battery’s out your lugging around a lot of dead weight Truthfully other than parking in London, diesel still seems the best for everyday Saying that tycan is state of art ev at mo
Have you ever considered doing a comparison between someone who daily drives an older classic (like Geoff Buys Cars) and someone like the Macmaster, and sharing the CO2 figures like Harry's Garage calculated?
Hey Richard, just back from a trip to Spa. WEC 6 hours of Spa was superb and well supported. Travelled there in my Tesla Y long range. Charged 6 x, including full charge at home. My mate travelled in his letrol q5 and spent £240 quid, i spend £80 quid all in. Charging in Europe is sooo cheap! Next trip is Spa 24 GT Hours, travelling in 911 so budgeting £300 quid. Good times
Gone from challenge the road to challenge the kids haha. I got the perfect solution you can borrow my golf diesel with a radio and I'll borrow the rs everyone's happy right?
Come on Richard they will be thankful for any tin can when they are old enough to drive! With EV’s taking on charging costs at home, adding on insurance and any service costs etc etc all in what is cheaper for daily life if you don’t have to go miles? EV or petrol/diesel?
Richard sorry to hear you have decided to give up on BEV. Your comment that the charging network cost is pertinent. For those who are able to charge at home on an EV tariff I think an EV is an obvious choice. We have two EV (BMW i3 and Nissan Ariya 87KW ) and are able to home charge. The BMW is mainly used for local journeys. Nissan we take on long journeys. Using the Tesla Supercharger network where possible to reduce costs. Never found a problem charging. The new Porsche Macan BEV is a car I’m considering next.
I am aiming for a 50 mile hybrid next but maybe difficult secondhand. It will be interesting what I go for in the next few weeks, the new Tiguan has 70 mile hybrid.
@@Challengetheroad When you get your 50mile+ hybrid I'm interested to read about your experience in REGULARLY charging at home (on an off peak EV tariff). I did look at a PHEV Range Rover several years back when I would have needed to charge every night for my daily short commute to run mainly on electric.
I think I originally discovered your channel with the gte. Why not something like a Lexus ls600h it's a good luxury car and it's reliable being a Lexus
Losing £6k is nothing, well done. Our local i3 runabout is very useful and cheap to run on 13 amp home cable. Longer trips out no. The LC150 or the Toyota hybrid better every time. Surely with your business you just lease a vehicle on that.
If you had bought it new you would have lost £60,000 at least. What about the charging costs to add on ? I sold my ev last week as it was dropping £500 plus a month at 2 years old. Cupra Cardiff even have preregistered cars bought from Northampton Cupra at £8650 off list price with 20 miles on the clock. There is talk of many dealerships selling ev's off cheap to get rid of them. MacMaster had his Taycan battery cooling fans fail (they collect gravel) but if he had bought the car used he would have had to pay £4000 to replace them. Who wants a 3 or 4 year old ev out of manufacturer warranty with 4 years of battery warranty left ? What if your ev has lost 30% of its range ? Battery packs are £14,000 to £45,000 to replace. Electric cars are a manufacturers wet dream because they know your new car will be worthless in 8 years. No one mentions the £1000 a year insurance for a Tesla or Taycan.
Great video. A change of mindset is required driving EVs. I have a Fiat 500e which I regularly drive from Sussex to Glasgow & beyond. I use a BP subscription to keep the cost down. No range anxiety, no problems with public charging & will definitely not go back to petrol.
How odd that people would say you don't know what you're talking about from your EV videos. Since when did an individual explaining what they experience equate to anything other than that individual explaining what they experience? Weird.
6k in 6 months not great but it is a supercar and that's gonna be expensive. Ev are expensive new tech that's evolving so expect to lose money. Having said that there is a place for them ie short regular journeys charging at home. Personally I think the whole car thing is the problem , micro mobility is a lot cheaper but needs safer infrastructure and complimenting with decent public transport..
Macmaster fans won't like to hear you've only lost £6k... Kind of shows his melodramatic editing up, as the way he goes on, it's like he's lost about £100k on his 🤣
He didn’t buy anything, it's leased through his company on a three year lease. In the first year of the lease he paid 0% BIK, in year 2 will pay 1% BIK, and then eventually 2% BIK tax. Long way from payin £120,000.
I’m old school and EV’s don’t interest me at all, but…the Renault 5. Absolutely beautiful and with a price tag of just over £20k I think it will sell in large numbers.
I think only losing £6 k is a massive result on an EV ! I personally will not have one because I do not believe the Eco hype behind them, I run 2 x Jags XJ 3.0 D & F type SVR 5.0 petrol. My cars give me immense pleasure my XJ does 40 mpg my SVR does 0 to 60 in 3.5 secs but costs a lot to run. I'm living the dream car wise and have no desire to go EV.
£1000 a month depreciation seems pretty high to me. Particularly as this was now a brand new car to start with.
(FOCUS RS) If it's the standard head unit, if you keep it switch on for over 24hours non stop. Which will mean you need to keep a charger on it. It should turn on. When it does turn on it should have restored to factory setting. If that fails ask Ford for the code. You can request it with the chassis number of the car. 👍
Good video. I agree, hybrid can make a lot of sense if you do short journeys daily. If you're driving long distance daily then diesel is your best bet. If you're picking a hybrid then pick one with double the range you need for daily driving to account for cold weather performance and battery depreciation.
Mercedes GLE 350 de - This plug-in hybrid diesel SUV is not only luxurious and exceptionally comfortable, its huge battery enables it to travel a whopping 58 miles on electricity alone. However, it also means it has a pretty small boot for a big, posh SUV.
woken up from a bad dream and gone back to a Focus Rs. 👍 i'm sure there are people out there who can sort the code out on the stereo !
Richard, 7000 miles cost you £6000 plus your charging costs of up to £200 a week I think you said in a previous video. That is an expensive vehicle to run! I bought my Mk7 Transit van for £6,000 & I filled it up for about £120 drove 376 miles & half a tank of diesel left.
So, for what you lost you could have bought my van outright & driven to SW France & back a good few times😂🤣💪
EVs are good if you only do local journeys but if you drive long distances for work or leisure then you need a petrol or diesel car as the stress of looking for chargers is too much
Yeah my 220 miles a day in my tesla without a charge is local enough.
Most critics have never owned an EV and don't car about the future at all.
The people saying you don't know enough about EVs will have owned 1 Kona and don't do more than 100 miles a week.
Nope, they are exhibiting cult like mentality
90% of managing a car's depreciation is in the buying. You bought well. People who buy those new at list take the biggest bath. Then again, I don't know anyone who's bought one who wasn't a company director offsetting tax.
Best thing you ever did richard,ev's are dead money.
I thought all electric vehicles had to have an 8 year battery warranty under legislation.
I agree that hybrid may be best at this time. Given infrastructure weaknesses in some areas, and warranty issues on full e cars. My wife is driving a Prius in Tennessee, USA. Long term Porsche ICE car owner. Did you consider the NEW e-Macan yet?
Richard Think of How Much Healthier You'll be ... not only in mind but in the Pocket !
New Cars have just lost appeal reliably and depreciation , warranty and design to fail with engine components plastic with electrical gremlins.
I have taken to the era when cars were built to last and eat miles in comfort as I can't do with gremlins ... A good old classic Merc Diesel
Battery technology is the obstacle to widespread BEV adoption. The battery is far too heavy, far too expensive, and far too slow to charge. Funnily enough this is exactly why electric cars were left behind by IC engined cars over a century ago. By the time battery technology has advanced to the stage of mass adoption, I suspect that something else will already have taken over, probably hydrogen fuel cells.
6k that's unbelievable he must have bought it very cheap .
Always difficult picking a new car. The BMW 540i xDrive Touring is on top of my list at the moment for a family lugger with a bit of umph for having fun on twisty lanes🙂
Interesting update going back to that Nokia is a sensible choice 😇. Would you also ask your data cruncher to look at costing in your time waiting around and the cake? In all seriousness EV’s seem ideal for those who are only time rich, have home charging for shorter distances, plenty of disposable income or it’s a company car / motability or on a lease scheme. You just wouldn’t buy one out right. For the ordinary person £6k would be a lot of money who’d not be able to play with the tax system, but I suspect the depreciation on a less prestigious marque would be even more, saw a CarWow video the other day the costs are not sustainable for everyday folk. I just don’t see how these vehicles can save the planet or the money in your wallet. Have you thought about just getting an everyday dad car just for running around with the kids and dog?
100% correct.
Richard, you are very lucky you got rid of your Porsche because a lot of people with EV are losing a lot of money in general Count it as a blessing 🎉
🤣🤣🤣
Battery powered cars are disposable cars just like old mobile phones once the battery's knackered it's done!
Slightly off topic, Cambridgeshire police have just posted on Facebook suggesting 25 JLR’s have been taken over the last few months in the county.
Richard, get a Panamera Turbo - 4 door, 4 seats and a great comparison between like for like EV and petrol
Didn’t know your sold the wraith - thought you loved that car and it would have been a keeper? One of the cars on my lottery winners list🤔
At least there getting a lesson in reality!
Do you remember crossing your fingers that your first banger will get to where you are going!
Your right it’s just to early for ev, same for hybrid really as when the battery’s out your lugging around a lot of dead weight
Truthfully other than parking in London, diesel still seems the best for everyday
Saying that tycan is state of art ev at mo
Have you ever considered doing a comparison between someone who daily drives an older classic (like Geoff Buys Cars) and someone like the Macmaster, and sharing the CO2 figures like Harry's Garage calculated?
Hey Richard, just back from a trip to Spa. WEC 6 hours of Spa was superb and well supported. Travelled there in my Tesla Y long range. Charged 6 x, including full charge at home. My mate travelled in his letrol q5 and spent £240 quid, i spend £80 quid all in. Charging in Europe is sooo cheap! Next trip is Spa 24 GT Hours, travelling in 911 so budgeting £300 quid. Good times
Get a BMW M3 Touring ,Richard . You won't regret it .Some bargains around now too.
Richard, have you considered the Porsche Panamera 2.9 V6 e hybrid sports turismo?
Lots of Porsche content recently it’s seems only right!
I have been looking - finding it very difficult to buy my next car
I’d keep the Focus RS. It won’t depreciate like all this modern garbage.
Gone from challenge the road to challenge the kids haha. I got the perfect solution you can borrow my golf diesel with a radio and I'll borrow the rs everyone's happy right?
Come on Richard they will be thankful for any tin can when they are old enough to drive! With EV’s taking on charging costs at home, adding on insurance and any service costs etc etc all in what is cheaper for daily life if you don’t have to go miles? EV or petrol/diesel?
Maserati Grecale. Fantastic things and a little bit different.
Richard sorry to hear you have decided to give up on BEV. Your comment that the charging network cost is pertinent. For those who are able to charge at home on an EV tariff I think an EV is an obvious choice. We have two EV (BMW i3 and Nissan Ariya 87KW ) and are able to home charge. The BMW is mainly used for local journeys. Nissan we take on long journeys. Using the Tesla Supercharger network where possible to reduce costs. Never found a problem charging. The new Porsche Macan BEV is a car I’m considering next.
I am aiming for a 50 mile hybrid next but maybe difficult secondhand. It will be interesting what I go for in the next few weeks, the new Tiguan has 70 mile hybrid.
@@Challengetheroad When you get your 50mile+ hybrid I'm interested to read about your experience in REGULARLY charging at home (on an off peak EV tariff). I did look at a PHEV Range Rover several years back when I would have needed to charge every night for my daily short commute to run mainly on electric.
A Mirari would be interesting
I think I originally discovered your channel with the gte. Why not something like a Lexus ls600h it's a good luxury car and it's reliable being a Lexus
Losing £6k is nothing, well done. Our local i3 runabout is very useful and cheap to run on 13 amp home cable. Longer trips out no. The LC150 or the Toyota hybrid better every time. Surely with your business you just lease a vehicle on that.
You can buy my 5 year old 38k mile one owner for £18k as I am going hybrid
Buy Geoff's Volvo V70R.
Really like that car
If you had bought it new you would have lost £60,000 at least. What about the charging costs to add on ? I sold my ev last week as it was dropping £500 plus a month at 2 years old. Cupra Cardiff even have preregistered cars bought from Northampton Cupra at £8650 off list price with 20 miles on the clock. There is talk of many dealerships selling ev's off cheap to get rid of them. MacMaster had his Taycan battery cooling fans fail (they collect gravel) but if he had bought the car used he would have had to pay £4000 to replace them. Who wants a 3 or 4 year old ev out of manufacturer warranty with 4 years of battery warranty left ? What if your ev has lost 30% of its range ? Battery packs are £14,000 to £45,000 to replace. Electric cars are a manufacturers wet dream because they know your new car will be worthless in 8 years. No one mentions the £1000 a year insurance for a Tesla or Taycan.
the 3 pin charger costs a lot to charger
Hybrids will rule for the next 2 years, sorry Elon, not your time at the moment
What about Panamera Tourismo hybrid.
Skoda superb diesel, I,ve got a 2014 model, best car I,ve owned👍
Buy a Toyota. Or a Vectra with a blowing exhaust. Or a Micra.
PorschEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE. Please! Please! Please! Please! Say it right! Thank you.
Ok Champ!
Get a hybrid Honda Civic
Tin can focus rs 😂
The BMW battery warranty is 8 years.
6 years on e45 x5 apparently - but will check
Great video. A change of mindset is required driving EVs. I have a Fiat 500e which I regularly drive from Sussex to Glasgow & beyond. I use a BP subscription to keep the cost down. No range anxiety, no problems with public charging & will definitely not go back to petrol.
How odd that people would say you don't know what you're talking about from your EV videos. Since when did an individual explaining what they experience equate to anything other than that individual explaining what they experience? Weird.
A grand a month isn't so bad, for some folks with the same car its cost them over 16k (The Macmaster) but buying used was the key. Great video
6k in 6 months not great but it is a supercar and that's gonna be expensive.
Ev are expensive new tech that's evolving so expect to lose money.
Having said that there is a place for them ie short regular journeys charging at home.
Personally I think the whole car thing is the problem , micro mobility is a lot cheaper but needs safer infrastructure and complimenting with decent public transport..
It will be less when you take in Vat and tax deductions 👍 Although not sure many will do this well on a Taycan!
Macmaster fans won't like to hear you've only lost £6k... Kind of shows his melodramatic editing up, as the way he goes on, it's like he's lost about £100k on his 🤣
He paid £120,000 for his brand new though.
He didn’t buy anything, it's leased through his company on a three year lease.
In the first year of the lease he paid 0% BIK, in year 2 will pay 1% BIK, and then eventually 2% BIK tax.
Long way from payin £120,000.
Next car...Tesla X
Not missing charging? Lol. Show how shit EV is ? What a con ?
The costs of EVs are horrendous, they are for the virtuous/champagne socialists only