Who had motive to kill John? Who are the real criminals that committed this murder? Where is the evidence that there was another killer besides KR who had a motive? Crime scene was outside immediately before KR drove away from the premises. Who else could it be?? I think no one.
@@wildroses3040yep. These people are like leaches. They stick to a story that they are fed early days and look at nothing else. I came in open minded. Conspiracy after conspiracy w were washed away. I thought how was that stuff even aloud in court? Google searches lol. Dog bites haha. I was a breeder of hunting dogs and those marks are not dogs. Didn’t know canines had no DNA lol. Their mouths are so wet it would be saturated in DNA. Went up Stairs? Where in Karen’s car? It goes on and on. He didn’t move once she stopped reversing. Then her actions. Before , the prior morning and arvo ? You are setting me up to fail John. She’s setting herself up. Victim blaming all day before she killed him then victim blames him again straight after in msgs voicemails. Guilty as it gets. Cold killer
LOL. Watch the trial. Science + common sense are amazing things!! Karen is innocent! And Judge Bev tried a fast move (well many moves actually) but got caught.
@@bonnienelson7373 that’s what all you conspirators and drama sensationalists may think but you have no logic or answers about corrupt family, friends and fellow officers who wanted John dead and for what reason?? Hard evidence points to KR regardless of all the opinionated, so called “science”. Lol, how absurd. She’s going to prison for the death of an admired police officer, loved by all, except KR “I HATE YOU JOHN!!”
@@bbmtge Be patient. No one is giving up on justice for *both* KR and JO. Karen needs to cleared of charges to steer the focus onto the prosecution of the killers and framers. It’s coming.
The only reason it's an extraordinary case is because of the corruption and negligence involved. When tampering with evidence is involved and unprofessionalism there's going to be a lot of confusion.
The physical evidence shows that Johns shoe and hat were found outside at the crime scene. Time line shows he would have had to be killed immediately by his family friends and fellow officers if he entered the home at all. Broken taillight fragments found embedded in his shirt. KR behavior, motive and admittance did I hit him? I HATE YOU JOHN! The rest is a convoluted mess put forth by the defence with opinionated expert conclusions that should not be considered hard evidence. The case should be tried again as KR is definitely involved in his murder, intentional or not. That’s why the jury chose to convict on the lesser counts. 8 to 4 that she was guilty.
@@wildroses3040 let’s say you guessed right and she is guilty. What about next time? What about the next time we let cops lie and plant evidence and they convict an innocent person. What about next time?
I have seen other Trials.. , and if there are 3 counts that a defendants is Charged with .. the Judge is asking for Jury's decision on Each one of those count. Count 1, then Count 2, then Count 3. That is Exactly what Judge Bev needed to do here ..But Did Not. Dirty Games of Canton Ma. The world is still watching..
@lynn2574 No, she didn't fail. The jurors are adults with instructions they did not fill out anything on the verdict sheet. They said they can NOT come to a unanimous verdict and since NOTHING was filled out, the judge took that as they COULDNT come to a verdict on ALLLLLLLL COUNTS!!!! WHAT DOMT U GET!?!?!?!
@@Joh605 oh, I get your argument. I simply disagree with you. This is a huge issue for appeal. Particularly since the defense objected to the verdict form, and potential co fusion it may be in regards to a split verdict. There are plenty of legal experts out there dissecting this case that have provided commentary on this issue with precedent and cited laws that I have watched. I simply agree with them.
In a significant development in the Karen Read case, the 4th juror has come forward, confirming what the other three jurors allegedly told the defense: the jury unanimously agreed on her innocence for counts 1 and 3. This breaking news raises crucial questions about the future of this legal saga. Stay tuned for more updates on this unfolding story.
how many times are u all gonna say this? what do u honestly expect anyone to do or say when seeing it for the 8,000th time? write your local politicians. file a complaint. DO something besides posting the same $H1T over & over & over &over.
@@BoxerClover, Freedom of Speech. No matter how many times you hear it. I have no clue what you're bitching about, but there's this thing called Our Constitutional Right. . . . just saying......
@@laurenurban3942 the entire case was a convoluted mess created and orchestrated by the defence to save their client from going to prison. Hard evidence shows she’s guilty. Jury decided well 8-4. Next time around it will be unanimous guilty verdict.
There was, across the street. Another police officer's house .. supposedly it was not working. Aidan Carney knocked on the door, no answer. There was a car in the driveway when he knocked. Canton's finest!! 🤔
That’s not true. John O’Keefe sustained injuries that are not consistent with being struck by her SUV and her SUV did not collide with John O’keefe. If it had, there would have been more severe damage to the vehicle and more/different injuries to Officer O’keefe’s body. Not only does she STILL maintain the presumption of innocence, but she is also factually innocent of the charges against her.
@JRay.R Oh please, you have no odea how he got side swiped knocked down. Being drunk makes you very unstable. Ever think about that and he fell and whacked his head. Duh! Its quite clear if you have any common sense or logic. Im not going to argue with you weird Karens. I'm good!😂🤣
Framing it as being suspended for the text messages only is disingenuous. He is getting fired for A LOT more than the text messages and it is well deserved. His superiors should also be facing AT LEAST demotions and some form of other sanctions / retraining.
Unclear jury instructions, unclear verdict forms and a judge seemingly unwilling to clarify communications between the court and the jury. Finally, I decided there were "problems" with this judge.
But why would he? John never entered the house according to the timeline. KR was present at the crime scene. Appears she rammed into John with her SUV in an angered rage. She called him 53 times after she hit him, first proclaiming she HATED him, then as she sobered up, started covering her tracks. Her behaviour is questionable, she’s kinda psycho I would say.
@@bonnienelson7373 when hard evidence clashes with circumstantial, opinionated “Expert” failures, it becomes appropriate to rely on the hard evidence when seeking out the truth. The laws of physics shows that an individual can get hit by a vehicle without sustaining injuries until that individual is thrown (btw, at the same speed of the moving vehicle), thrown into the air until gravity forces impact that individual as he lands on the ground causing blunt force trauma, in this case, to the head which caused internal brain bleeding that caused Mr. O’Keefes death.
Anyone else remember when the defense went around with Auntie Bev about instructions and checkboxes when they first started deliberations?? Had Auntie Bev listened, maybe this crap wouldn’t be happening! She is about worthless.
This case can’t be proven. According to law there has to be no doubt when convicting someone of a crime…and no one can be 100 percent certain in this case…the evidence itself doesn’t prove who did it. Video evidence would have to show exactly what happened…that’s the only way to know for sure in this case.
@@tyriesmcghee1462 I don't know what science says about The Juice but we all know what the Experts/Science said about Officer O'Keefe NOT being hit by a vehicle!
LISTEN UP everyone, respectfully more so torwds the Judge. This kind of stuff doesn't just happens right? So thats what everyone and their moms & dads grandmas, grandpas, brothers, a lot of lawyers and even other judges say hell, international, everyone this has to be a sign or something from the Univers, God, HECK IDK, whatever it is that YOU choose to believe in!!! IT HAS TO BE A SIGN FOR HER INNOCENT's. Hey someone had to say it, and sound F N cray cray 🤪😅. No, I do mean it though😊
We are to believe the ppl inside dumped his body exactly where Karen believed she hit him…think about that. And she went to her dad in the middle of the night, discussing she may have hit something. Right when she dropped him off. Her dad made the revelation of their private talk in an interview. So take away all the other stuff in the trial, this alone shows who hit John.
Agreed on one of those.... after hearing her scream I'm like I'd go insane running down the road yelling for help. No wonder dude stepped out for another warm welcoming woman.
Who would want Proctor looking for evidence of their murdered, child. At any age? 🥹 Deleted evidence... Not securing the area, consistent manipulation.
Corrupt judge and corrupt police officers.
Most people would agree Auntie Bev has biased against Karen Read from day one.
I say FREE Karen Read and put the real criminals behind bars.
I think her bigger problem was Jackson being a California lawyer. East coast people are funny that way.
You could have a point there. In addition to this, this judge is stuffy and annoying. Unclear to me how she ever got a position like this.
@@billyc3772 Auntie Beverage, Trooper Proctologist, Knuckles Albert, Higgins, BA, Snaggletooth, Squirmy Guardino... all need to be locked up.
DA Morrissey's wife worked closely with judge Bev's mother for years. A proven fact.
@@JennyLouLou Auntie Beverage is a deadly cocktail of corruption.
Leave this poor woman alone and go after the real criminals, the corrupt cops and judge!
Who had motive to kill John? Who are the real criminals that committed this murder? Where is the evidence that there was another killer besides KR who had a motive? Crime scene was outside immediately before KR drove away from the premises. Who else could it be?? I think no one.
@@wildroses3040yep. These people are like leaches. They stick to a story that they are fed early days and look at nothing else. I came in open minded. Conspiracy after conspiracy w were washed away. I thought how was that stuff even aloud in court? Google searches lol. Dog bites haha. I was a breeder of hunting dogs and those marks are not dogs. Didn’t know canines had no DNA lol. Their mouths are so wet it would be saturated in DNA. Went up
Stairs? Where in Karen’s car? It goes on and on. He didn’t move once she stopped reversing. Then her actions. Before , the prior morning and arvo ? You are setting me up to fail John. She’s setting herself up. Victim blaming all day before she killed him then victim blames him again straight after in msgs voicemails. Guilty as it gets. Cold killer
LOL. Watch the trial. Science + common sense are amazing things!! Karen is innocent! And Judge Bev tried a fast move (well many moves actually) but got caught.
@@bonnienelson7373 that’s what all you conspirators and drama sensationalists may think but you have no logic or answers about corrupt family, friends and fellow officers who wanted John dead and for what reason?? Hard evidence points to KR regardless of all the opinionated, so called “science”. Lol, how absurd. She’s going to prison for the death of an admired police officer, loved by all, except KR “I HATE YOU JOHN!!”
@@bonnienelson7373 your a physco
“They’ve gone through everything but my sock drawer, but they won’t go through Brian Albert’s front door"!
Good point!
He’s the president right now but after he’s out of the office I’m sure he’ll be in court.
This is why the defense's request to have not guilty / guilty checkboxes next to each charge was relevant.
The defense knew the verdict forms were confusing. And look what happened
We will get to see the hearing regarding this new motion to dismiss?
@@TroyJScottthe defence are trying to pull shiftys like they have for 18 months. Won’t work.
Justice for John Okeefe starts with Justice for Karen Read first
Yep!
@@josephsarahvlahos9528 amen!
Nothing but a slogan.
‼️✊🏾
@@bbmtge Be patient. No one is giving up on justice for *both* KR and JO.
Karen needs to cleared of charges to steer the focus onto the prosecution of the killers and framers. It’s coming.
The only reason it's an extraordinary case is because of the corruption and negligence involved. When tampering with evidence is involved and unprofessionalism there's going to be a lot of confusion.
proctor should just be fired he is not competant to be a detective, his testamony in the case proves it
Proctor needs to be prosecuted
Seen bad cop on stand before. Mark Furman!
@@user-cb6mp1lx2chow was Furman a bad witness?
The collusion runs deep in this courtroom. The judge should have recused herself. Seems her momma worked for the commissioners wife for over 20 years.
These judges need to be sanctioned because they aren’t following federal law
The judge in this case was Gutter Filth!
She was obviously biased and was upset for the mistrial
I heard that Gary Busey with a blonde wig was playing her in the TV movie.
Not " was" always has been💩
How was there a mistrial that judge is corrupt
100%!
She is FACTUALLY INNOCENT
I think factually not guilty would be the preferable term
The physical evidence shows that Johns shoe and hat were found outside at the crime scene. Time line shows he would have had to be killed immediately by his family friends and fellow officers if he entered the home at all. Broken taillight fragments found embedded in his shirt. KR behavior, motive and admittance did I hit him? I HATE YOU JOHN! The rest is a convoluted mess put forth by the defence with opinionated expert conclusions that should not be considered hard evidence. The case should be tried again as KR is definitely involved in his murder, intentional or not. That’s why the jury chose to convict on the lesser counts. 8 to 4 that she was guilty.
@@wildroses3040 let’s say you guessed right and she is guilty. What about next time? What about the next time we let cops lie and plant evidence and they convict an innocent person. What about next time?
where was his winter coat? Probably inside the alberts house??
@@wildroses3040totally not true, it was 12-0 on counts 1 & 3 of not guilty & count 2 votes from jurors were unknown so you’re full of shit.
I have seen other Trials.. , and if there are 3 counts that a defendants is Charged with .. the Judge is asking for Jury's decision on Each one of those count. Count 1, then Count 2, then Count 3. That is Exactly what Judge Bev needed to do here ..But Did Not. Dirty Games of Canton Ma. The world is still watching..
Fake news😂
NO the judge had no idea that they came up with any verdict it was said a week after the the mistrial
@@Joh605it was her job to make sure. It’s the Judges job to ensure a clear record. She failed.
@lynn2574 No, she didn't fail. The jurors are adults with instructions they did not fill out anything on the verdict sheet. They said they can NOT come to a unanimous verdict and since NOTHING was filled out, the judge took that as they COULDNT come to a verdict on ALLLLLLLL COUNTS!!!! WHAT DOMT U GET!?!?!?!
@@Joh605 oh, I get your argument. I simply disagree with you. This is a huge issue for appeal. Particularly since the defense objected to the verdict form, and potential co fusion it may be in regards to a split verdict. There are plenty of legal experts out there dissecting this case that have provided commentary on this issue with precedent and cited laws that I have watched. I simply agree with them.
Nbc 10 Boston Thumbs up you are doing so well and inviting Attorney Bederow is fantastic !! - ps.. you need to give him longer segment..
I agree he is fantastic.
Always has something of value to add to the conversation!
In a significant development in the Karen Read case, the 4th juror has come forward, confirming what the other three jurors allegedly told the defense: the jury unanimously agreed on her innocence for counts 1 and 3. This breaking news raises crucial questions about the future of this legal saga. Stay tuned for more updates on this unfolding story.
Biased Bevs own brother defended the Alberts the last time Chris Albert killed a man... Massachusetts is a wreck
how many times are u all gonna say this? what do u honestly expect anyone to do or say when seeing it for the 8,000th time? write your local politicians. file a complaint. DO something besides posting the same $H1T over & over & over &over.
@@BoxerClover, Freedom of Speech. No matter how many times you hear it.
I have no clue what you're bitching about, but there's this thing called Our Constitutional Right. . . . just saying......
@@BoxerCloverDon't read it then!!!
@bartonbella3131….. I love your comment… keep commenting.
BEDEROWWWWW!
He’s a very smart man. Love that dude.
How could anyone say there was enough reasonable doubt to convict. Ridiculous
The entire case was reasonable doubt.
@@laurenurban3942 the entire case was a convoluted mess created and orchestrated by the defence to save their client from going to prison. Hard evidence shows she’s guilty. Jury decided well 8-4. Next time around it will be unanimous guilty verdict.
If only there was a home camera watching the driveway
There was, across the street. Another police officer's house .. supposedly it was not working. Aidan Carney knocked on the door, no answer. There was a car in the driveway when he knocked. Canton's finest!! 🤔
Atty Bederow should always be on your news
They can't prove anything! Then why isn't she free? Is this the American way?
No, this is the corrupt way because freedom allows that.
@@laurenurban3942 A broken system?
They railroaded that woman
Actually she railroaded her bf
That’s not true.
John O’Keefe sustained injuries that are not consistent with being struck by her SUV and her SUV did not collide with John O’keefe.
If it had, there would have been more severe damage to the vehicle and more/different injuries to Officer O’keefe’s body.
Not only does she STILL maintain the presumption of innocence, but she is also factually innocent of the charges against her.
@@realhousewifeoftransylvania1.0then where did all the blood go?
@@islandthrifts809 Blood from his head, what blood his arm? Are you seriously asking that question? Lol!
@JRay.R Oh please, you have no odea how he got side swiped knocked down. Being drunk makes you very unstable. Ever think about that and he fell and whacked his head. Duh! Its quite clear if you have any common sense or logic. Im not going to argue with you weird Karens. I'm good!😂🤣
The only life lost is John O’Keefe’s,justice for JOHN O’Keefe .
Massachusetts is so bad at ensuring our rights
You might want to add why there is a trial.
Framing it as being suspended for the text messages only is disingenuous. He is getting fired for A LOT more than the text messages and it is well deserved. His superiors should also be facing AT LEAST demotions and some form of other sanctions / retraining.
Told yall the judge was corrupt
The police union would back a rattlesnake if it wore a badge.
I can’t figure out the mistrial
Is this the first case for this judge?
Why didn’t she make sure they understood ?
Unclear jury instructions, unclear verdict forms and a judge seemingly unwilling to clarify communications between the court and the jury. Finally, I decided there were "problems" with this judge.
She didn't want them to!!
Collin Albert killed John
But why would he? John never entered the house according to the timeline. KR was present at the crime scene. Appears she rammed into John with her SUV in an angered rage. She called him 53 times after she hit him, first proclaiming she HATED him, then as she sobered up, started covering her tracks. Her behaviour is questionable, she’s kinda psycho I would say.
@@wildroses3040 Did you not listen to the Experts/Science? There is NO way OJO was hit by a vehicle!
@@bonnienelson7373 when hard evidence clashes with circumstantial, opinionated “Expert” failures, it becomes appropriate to rely on the hard evidence when seeking out the truth. The laws of physics shows that an individual can get hit by a vehicle without sustaining injuries until that individual is thrown (btw, at the same speed of the moving vehicle), thrown into the air until gravity forces impact that individual as he lands on the ground causing blunt force trauma, in this case, to the head which caused internal brain bleeding that caused Mr. O’Keefes death.
Anyone else remember when the defense went around with Auntie Bev about instructions and checkboxes when they first started deliberations?? Had Auntie Bev listened, maybe this crap wouldn’t be happening! She is about worthless.
These cops are crooks ..Katen did not kill her husband
Thank you for your coverage. Been watching for about a month now from Dallas, Texas.😀
Same here in Fort Worth ;)
@@TroyJScott Howdy neighbor!
Young Jerks streamed it. CA "apologized" for his actions towards TB.
Can they prove jurors called the defense?
Action Jackson will not be denied.
Judge would have to speak with these jurors in person for proof that it was actually the jurors and not some Joe Blows fighting for Reads freedom!
@@wildroses3040 Or a Whack Job that supports the McAlberts.
She is innocent...Totally...the policeman living in the house killed him and they framed her badly
She should have gotten off..they not guilty her....
I bet "the family"blackmailing the referee
Keystone cops and a bunch of drunks 😊 its Massachusetts people .
awful report.
Ikr I heard lut board meeting
@@grandnewton9887 What does lut mean?
We all know the real reason for suspending Proctor.
Two words... WHACK JOB.
The jurors did NOT inform the judge they came to a unanimous verdict of any of the counts. It was said by a juror a week after the mistrial
This case can’t be proven. According to law there has to be no doubt when convicting someone of a crime…and no one can be 100 percent certain in this case…the evidence itself doesn’t prove who did it. Video evidence would have to show exactly what happened…that’s the only way to know for sure in this case.
There’s enough hard evidence. KR was at the crime scene at the time John was killed. No one could have killed him except her. And she also had motive.
@@wildroses3040you serious?
The jury doesn't believe she is 100 percent innocent
No the only thing they were divided on is the DUI charge. They ALL agreed she didn't hit Officer O'Keefe with her vehicle.
@@bonnienelson7373 okay physco the police killed one of there own and threw him on his own lawn to frame poor old Karen Reed Lol. Ridiculous
@@bonnienelson7373 if she is innocent so is The Juice
@@tyriesmcghee1462 Spell check "psycho". Did I say that? Nope! Science didn't prove that but sure did prove Officer O'Keefe wasn't hit by a vehicle!
@@tyriesmcghee1462 I don't know what science says about The Juice but we all know what the Experts/Science said about Officer O'Keefe NOT being hit by a vehicle!
LISTEN UP everyone, respectfully more so torwds the Judge. This kind of stuff doesn't just happens right? So thats what everyone and their moms & dads grandmas, grandpas, brothers, a lot of lawyers and even other judges say hell, international, everyone this has to be a sign or something from the Univers, God, HECK IDK, whatever it is that YOU choose to believe in!!! IT HAS TO BE A SIGN FOR HER INNOCENT's. Hey someone had to say it, and sound F N cray cray 🤪😅. No, I do mean it though😊
GUILTY OF MANSLAUTER 8 TO 3.
Karen is till out on bond. Has she violated her bond conditions? should she be incarcerated until the next trial?
We are to believe the ppl inside dumped his body exactly where Karen believed she hit him…think about that. And she went to her dad in the middle of the night, discussing she may have hit something. Right when she dropped him off. Her dad made the revelation of their private talk in an interview. So take away all the other stuff in the trial, this alone shows who hit John.
Karen OJ Adelson. I think she got hold of Charlie Adelsons hand book when thinking up these conspiracies 😁
I think that's crazy that the jury let her get away with murder if that was your brother your husband your nephew or whatever I want you want Justice
Sham! They should have put this horrible murderer in prison a long time ago! Everyone knows she’s guilty!
Oh have you spoken to EVERYONE? are you just going to ignore the fact that No Not EVERYONE thinks she's guilty?
Total cover up by the pigs
Karen Read the murderess and sociopath will be guilty forever despite bad juries and the Canton mob.
Dang you just don’t get it. Must have been watching some other trial!
Agreed on one of those.... after hearing her scream I'm like I'd go insane running down the road yelling for help. No wonder dude stepped out for another warm welcoming woman.
@@Suzanne7ib Dang. Your ZERO IQ is obvious. Karen Read murderess forever.
Hahaha. None of that statement is true. Just a BOOTLICKER mouthing off.
@@rodderick1983 you don’t know what you would do if you were as piss drunk as all of the cops there that night
Who would want Proctor looking for evidence of their murdered, child. At any age? 🥹 Deleted evidence... Not securing the area, consistent manipulation.