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the hesitancy on Gregs part to fully believe in things he know he's not completely worked through makes him all the more trustworthy and a great person to do this kind of research. This was very interesting, hope this becomes a multi part series of interviews with him
What an interesting bloke Jeff. Still today, in 2022, I get people who dismiss my NDE experience as "nonsense". It used to depress me and so I stopped talking about it for years, until the internet came into our lives and BINGO thousands of people have had similar. Now I just shrug and think, "your loss". Work like Gregory's is just amazing for me. Thank you, both.
I liked very much hearing from Dr. Shushan, who exhibited the kind of reasonable skepticism so many PhDs lack, especially in their area of expertise. He said he continues to find areas to be investigated, which, again, points to an intellect who knows how little he really knows.
Dr. Mishlove thank you for for another informative interview. I’ve had 3 different types of OBEs experiences all involving people who have passed over except one. Sometimes I interact ( just watch) spirits in a grey color zone. Usually they’ll walking down the street. I’ve interacted (communicating but with out speech) on another level where it looks just like this world). And once in a black space setting where Spirits where flying around as spheres. One sphere was a good friend of my who had passed over months ago. The front of the sphere had here face she was beautiful the colors of her face were bright and colorful. She called my name and ask how I was doing. Sounds nuts but it’s all true.
Great interview on such a fascinating, intriguing subject. I find NDEs and OBEs endlessly compelling because they appear to be the foundational experiences of most of our world religions. I’ve been trying to make sense of them for years, but am often troubled by the more fringe contemporary accounts - the overtly religious, the hellish etc. B W Melvin says he met entities who masqueraded as relatives in order to deceive people. Also, there are numerous accounts from Pentecostals, usually those in the holiness traditions, which reveal horrific scenes of post-mortem tortures. Reading such things can be very disturbing, and I find myself not knowing what to trust. If there is deception and external manipulation I don’t know how we could reliably recognise it. Do many NDEers ever ‘test the spirits?’ I wonder if anyone else has similar concerns?
Extraordinaria entrevista. En el año de 1985 estando recién casado con mi mujer rentamos un pequeño apartamento en una comunidad rural , siento totalmente escepticos tuvimos los dos una variedad de experiencias espirituales fascinantes : cierta noche intentando dormir " algo " se me echó sobre el cuerpo mientras que ella en el mismo instante sentía como si algo le jalara el alma hacia afuera , la siguiente noche clara y realmente ese " algo " nos atravesó a los dos pasando en medio justo de nuestros cuerpos , informamos a la arrendadora y recuerdo que solo sonrió y me dijo ,no tenga miedo nosotros somos spiritas practicantes y las noches anteriores un hermano les hizo una visita , desde entonces y a partir de estos maravillosos sucesos soy creyente de la existencia de otra realidad , no la entiendo , no la comprendo porque jamás y nunca he profundizado más es ello , nadie me convence que no exista otra realidad espiritual yo lo viví y más que asustarme reconocí humildemente que no somos solo este cuerpo . Gracias .
Always incredible stories on Jeffrey's channel an always a good feeling about hearing from guests about the afterlife after having OBE's myself it makes a difference 🙌
Some part of me wants the term "afterlife" to be changed, since if we exist after we die, then we likely existed before this life as well. The term implies that our human birth is when we came into existence, and I'm pretty sure that's not the case.
Hmm, Interesting language. World building. A thousand people working together to create a world. The afterlife sounds more like a video game development project than paradise.
Good conversation, thanks. I have a few nde experiences and the part about creating the afterlife to our own beliefs and life experience seems to have some effect but I think there is manipulation on the other side as things aren't always as they seem.
Great story of a young boy, 9/11 and the reincarnation of a New York City firefighter who perished in one of the Twin Towers. The full story as told by the boy's mother on (and off) a popular Reincarnation Forum starting in 2007 up to the present day. The book is titled, Fire in the Soul: Reincarnation from Antietam to Ground Zero.
It's *heavily* influenced by cultural expectations. The whole idea of journeying through a tunnel towards a light takes its root from the Underworld pilgrimage of the newly deceased soul, who had to travel through a 'strait passage' in order to reach her/his spiritual destination, along with the 'Bridge of the Separator' which was kind of like the tunnel and the judging process (life review) combined. We've forgotten all this, and believe naively that our experiences speak with "no accent."
Despite the universal interest in the after-life dating back as the ancient-Egyptians, it's kind of surprising that it's not better understood. Regarding how the after-life may be similar to a (lucid) dream-world, where a collective-soul-group is authoring the terrain... it makes wonder if this physical reality doesn't have some element of that, similar to Rupert Sheldrake 100 monkeys, especially if one lives as if this is a dream/simulation. Regarding the strength of the evidence (Spontaneous-Reincarnation , NDE followed not so closely by medium-ship and past-life regression), has Gregory compared the best evidence against the detailed after-life descriptions of Emanuel Swedenborg, Tom Campbell, Luis Minero, Matías De Stefano, Tsuruhiko Kiuchi.. or even (the late Robin Foy's) Scole Experiments? BTW, I highly recommend the video "5 Reasons Why People Become Ghosts After Death"!
I for one get tired of asking what the skeptics will think. The answer is they will not think a new thought because they are committed to their own orthodoxy which is backwards looking. The truth is such that there will always be more to be revealed, to find out and the so-called skeptics are not willing to find out anything new. Only a deep-seated fear I would suggest would make someone that rigid , Fear and a deep need to belong to an intellectual community which gives them their sense of identity.
Interestingly you omitted ADC’s..After death communications as a source of evidence…I have had more than a few of these from my deceased parents…They were anything but subtle…I’m a skeptic by nature…need proof…these experiences have confirmed for me the existence of an afterlife…
Disappointed to learn that the life review is rare, because that's something I really look forward to (whether painful or not), and something that seems right and just for everyone to have. Still hoping to get it, preferably with a lot of statistics like in an RPG. I reflect a lot on my life anyway, including deep mistakes, and how cool wouldn't it be with perfect recall and full understanding. And I want to learn as much as possible. I want this cold and dark life to be good for at least something, know what I mean, lol. Could be that everyone eventually get one but (a) some with NDEs didn't go far enough into the afterlife, or (b) they did a review but don't remember it.
If we hold that our expectations create our afterlives, and that a therapist's expectations can influence what a client sees or experiences, then does that make assessing a medium's readings any more suspect? We should also probably imagine that every scientific experimental outcome, however rigorous, is influenced or created by the experimenter--which would explain why there have been diametrically opposite findings in some experiments that use the same protocols.
If that theory is true, then any religion that proposes that hell exists is pure evil and ought to be destroyed. Because that religion would literally bring hell into existence.
Funny synchronicity happened as I was listening to this video. I got a Facebook friend request from a dead person. Before I reported them and blocked them, I did message them and as them if they remembered that they died. I was pretty sure the friend requester was a scammer though, and not my friend.
The thing is, hypothetically, if the dying brain creates a fiction to ease a person into death is a valid explanation, why dont humans have more experiences with just regular old trauma? Humans suffer a lot. The best solution to suffering would be a brain just turning off, not creating one last fantastical fiction. And if nature is indifferent, that explanation just doesn’t pan out for me.
The brain uses much of its energy keeping the brain cells in homeostasis, a state of dynamic equilibrium. When energy is lost, these processes are no longer able to maintain this state, releasing neurotransmitters in bulk. This creates the release of memories and sensations, especially the euphoria of serotonin and dopamine release. It is not a structured, designed event. It is the result of loss of energy that keeps the brain cells in equilibrium. This is why it doesn’t happen with trauma, and this is why dysregulation during imbibing of psychotropics does cause it. While the person may become brain dead later, it’s thought that this extreme activity at the moment of death causes these experiences.
@@jamessonne Well, sure, I suppose if you want to stick with materialistic view that we are meat zombies, completely regulated by structure and movement of ingredients. There is very good evidence, previously only in rats, and now in one human being, that prior to death the brain wave show an extremely energetic burst of coherent activity in gamma if I am not mistaken. I assume you follow Doctor Mishlove, and are aware of the award presented by Bigelow, for evidence that consciousness may be non-local, and not ultimately dependent on the brain, which doesn't dismiss correlation between brain activity, just that, there are other explanations. I suspect a better angle for an argument/response to my question would be to suggest Fear Death Experiences, which per PMH Atwater is the same as a NDE, only without the dying part; apparently just believing one is dying can result in all the same artifacts of NDEs, and that would be evidence that people with severe trauma-real or imaginary- do get 'hallucinations.' I have had a FDE, though. I have had an hallucinations. I have never experienced a hallucination as brilliant as the FDE. I have never had a regular dream as solid as the FDE. I lucid dream, and even my lucid dreams are not as profound as the FDE. Out of body experiences are just a degree different that I can distinguish between that and lucid dreaming- I can do things in LD that I can't in OBEs. Maybe these are all just different states, but the fact that we know these states exist and medical science ignores them, that's really kind of sad, considering how many inventions came from dreams, and Carl Jung's primary preferred interaction was shadow work and active imagination... If placebos are a mind thing, and hypnosis can cure with a rate better than placebo, on par with most medication without side effects, I could see why pharmaceuticals may not want that information shared. I think my argument against your explanation would be, then please explain all the people who had near death experiences and didn't have substantial instability of brain functioning resulting in NDE artifacts. We do agree they all lose neural coherence, right?
@@jamessonne The problems with this argument is as follows: I.) Many NDEs happen when people are not in such a brain condition during their NDE. Obviously those NDEs were not caused by this explanation II:) NDEs have a coherent structure such as a belief in leaving the body, going to another realm of existence, encountering deceased loved ones, some sort of judgement and then a return to the body. A memory dump wouldn't be so structured and why would a memory dump create a unified experience? III) NDEs during cardiac arrest would not be explained by this as cardiac arrest removes consciousness. IV.) While people considering hallucinations or dreams to be realm during the event, afterwards people realize it was just a hallucination or dream. Yet over 99 percent of NDErs are adamant that their NDE was " more real than real" and not a hallucination. Why this departure from the norm? V.) Peek in Darien cases. This is where some reports seeing someone during the NDE who had died but they were not aware of their death until after the experience. VI.) Life Reviews. Often times people report during life reviews that they feel the thoughts and perceptions of others, in particular those that they had hurt. How can a memory dump produce another persons thoughts and feelings. VII.) This fails to explain NDE cases where NDErs accurately described their surroundings including their surgeries. Lastly how do know a brain outside of a dynamic equilibrium will experience memories and sensations, even with the chemical releases you mention?. It is out of equilibrium and therefore not working properly. You cannot postulate a misfunctioning brain will correctly have any form of consciousness emergent from it via the chemical methods you mentioned. Remember it is no longer function properly. Off my head that seems a few problems with this type of explanation which is why it is not accepted as an explanation for NDEs. This argument is not new basically.
21:45 - That's a funny thought, ie. bureaucratic / union heaven. Where I could see that coming from though, conscious agents have needs and wants and I've always wondered how it is that game theory would vanish at death when game theory arises from the competition of conscious agents. Seems like the Chinese and a few other cultures might have been thinking about those problems and assumed they'd need similar solutions such as full employment, official office-chair movers, NIH, etc. to keep everyone happy.
This was a good interview. Although, I have serious disagreement with your guest’s interpretation of NDE. For me, NDE accounts are a source for learning and I think we should not impose our prejudices on these reports. This experience is truly otherworldly and beyond our material logic. If someone reports that he/she has seen a being and sensed (understood) them as a saint or angle, that person is absolutely truthful in his/her observation. We cannot argue that they are mistaken just because we live in a secular time.
Thanks for your comment. This is a good point. I would absolutely agree with you that NDEs are a source of learning, and that's one of the main points of my research: that they inform afterlife beliefs around the world. I would certainly not want to impose any prejudices on NDE accounts, or say make the determination that they're mistaken. I hope I didn't give that impression. But culture does clearly influence the experience, and it's difficult to untangle what's cultural and what's not....
Consciousness creates its own reality, as it does in dreams. The afterlife may be similar to when we go to sleep and dream. The answer may be much closer. We experience a form of it every day.
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the hesitancy on Gregs part to fully believe in things he know he's not completely worked through makes him all the more trustworthy and a great person to do this kind of research. This was very interesting, hope this becomes a multi part series of interviews with him
What a sharp, level-headed, guy. Looks like he truly enjoys the topic.
What an interesting bloke Jeff. Still today, in 2022, I get people who dismiss my NDE experience as "nonsense". It used to depress me and so I stopped talking about it for years, until the internet came into our lives and BINGO thousands of people have had similar. Now I just shrug and think, "your loss". Work like Gregory's is just amazing for me. Thank you, both.
Some people simply cannot listen to views that outside their perception of reality. Just how things are.
@@kristheobserver yep. As Byron Katie says, If you argue with reality, you're going to lose. But only 100%of the time.
I liked very much hearing from Dr. Shushan, who exhibited the kind of reasonable skepticism so many PhDs lack, especially in their area of expertise. He said he continues to find areas to be investigated, which, again, points to an intellect who knows how little he really knows.
Great to see you back in studio!
Dr. Mishlove thank you for for another informative interview.
I’ve had 3 different types of OBEs experiences all involving people who have passed over except one.
Sometimes I interact ( just watch) spirits in a grey color zone. Usually they’ll walking down the street.
I’ve interacted (communicating but with out speech) on another level where it looks just like this world).
And once in a black space setting where Spirits where flying around as spheres.
One sphere was a good friend of my who had passed over months ago. The front of the sphere had here face she was beautiful the colors of her face were bright and colorful. She called my name and ask how I was doing. Sounds nuts but it’s all true.
What wonderful experiences! Thank you for sharing :)
Thanks to you both.
New Thinking allowed is always interesting, fascinating and instructive. Love this channel.
Illuminating and engaging!
Jeff you are a real blessing to so many, your lifelong catalogue of work is so valuable.
Thank you Jeffrey for all of your considerate observations and discussions!
I so much enjoyed this interview...
Great interview on such a fascinating, intriguing subject.
I find NDEs and OBEs endlessly compelling because they appear to be the foundational experiences of most of our world religions.
I’ve been trying to make sense of them for years, but am often troubled by the more fringe contemporary accounts - the overtly religious, the hellish etc.
B W Melvin says he met entities who masqueraded as relatives in order to deceive people. Also, there are numerous accounts from Pentecostals, usually those in the holiness traditions, which reveal horrific scenes of post-mortem tortures.
Reading such things can be very disturbing, and I find myself not knowing what to trust. If there is deception and external manipulation I don’t know how we could reliably recognise it. Do many NDEers ever ‘test the spirits?’
I wonder if anyone else has similar concerns?
Interesting conversation...
Great stuff
That was an interesting chat, thanks.
Thank you both!
Fantastic. Thank you!
great interview! great guest!!
So fascinating! Melds with so many of my beliefs from studying Jung, mystics, etc. Thank you!
Extraordinaria entrevista. En el año de 1985 estando recién casado con mi mujer rentamos un pequeño apartamento en una comunidad rural , siento totalmente escepticos tuvimos los dos una variedad de experiencias espirituales fascinantes : cierta noche intentando dormir " algo " se me echó sobre el cuerpo mientras que ella en el mismo instante sentía como si algo le jalara el alma hacia afuera , la siguiente noche clara y realmente ese " algo " nos atravesó a los dos pasando en medio justo de nuestros cuerpos , informamos a la arrendadora y recuerdo que solo sonrió y me dijo ,no tenga miedo nosotros somos spiritas practicantes y las noches anteriores un hermano les hizo una visita , desde entonces y a partir de estos maravillosos sucesos soy creyente de la existencia de otra realidad , no la entiendo , no la comprendo porque jamás y nunca he profundizado más es ello , nadie me convence que no exista otra realidad espiritual yo lo viví y más que asustarme reconocí humildemente que no somos solo este cuerpo . Gracias .
Fascinating
Always incredible stories on Jeffrey's channel an always a good feeling about hearing from guests about the afterlife after having OBE's myself it makes a difference 🙌
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Some part of me wants the term "afterlife" to be changed, since if we exist after we die, then we likely existed before this life as well. The term implies that our human birth is when we came into existence, and I'm pretty sure that's not the case.
Agreed. The "widerlife" maybe
love the red jacket!
Hmm, Interesting language. World building. A thousand people working together to create a world. The afterlife sounds more like a video game development project than paradise.
Good conversation, thanks. I have a few nde experiences and the part about creating the afterlife to our own beliefs and life experience seems to have some effect but I think there is manipulation on the other side as things aren't always as they seem.
Great story of a young boy, 9/11 and the reincarnation of a New York City firefighter who perished in one of the Twin Towers. The full story as told by the boy's mother on (and off) a popular Reincarnation Forum starting in 2007 up to the present day. The book is titled, Fire in the Soul: Reincarnation from Antietam to Ground Zero.
It's *heavily* influenced by cultural expectations. The whole idea of journeying through a tunnel towards a light takes its root from the Underworld pilgrimage of the newly deceased soul, who had to travel through a 'strait passage' in order to reach her/his spiritual destination, along with the 'Bridge of the Separator' which was kind of like the tunnel and the judging process (life review) combined. We've forgotten all this, and believe naively that our experiences speak with "no accent."
Despite the universal interest in the after-life dating back as the ancient-Egyptians, it's kind of surprising that it's not better understood.
Regarding how the after-life may be similar to a (lucid) dream-world, where a collective-soul-group is authoring the terrain... it makes wonder if this physical reality doesn't have some element of that, similar to Rupert Sheldrake 100 monkeys, especially if one lives as if this is a dream/simulation.
Regarding the strength of the evidence (Spontaneous-Reincarnation , NDE followed not so closely by medium-ship and past-life regression), has Gregory compared the best evidence against the detailed after-life descriptions of Emanuel Swedenborg, Tom Campbell, Luis Minero, Matías De Stefano, Tsuruhiko Kiuchi.. or even (the late Robin Foy's) Scole Experiments?
BTW, I highly recommend the video "5 Reasons Why People Become Ghosts After Death"!
I for one get tired of asking what the skeptics will think. The answer is they will not think a new thought because they are committed to their own orthodoxy which is backwards looking. The truth is such that there will always be more to be revealed, to find out and the so-called skeptics are not willing to find out anything new. Only a deep-seated fear I would suggest would make someone that rigid , Fear and a deep need to belong to an intellectual community which gives them their sense of identity.
well nice would have been nice to hear accounts at least a few but i guess ill have to buy the book .darn it
Interestingly you omitted ADC’s..After death communications as a source of evidence…I have had more than a few of these from my deceased parents…They were anything but subtle…I’m a skeptic by nature…need proof…these experiences have confirmed for me the existence of an afterlife…
Disappointed to learn that the life review is rare, because that's something I really look forward to (whether painful or not), and something that seems right and just for everyone to have. Still hoping to get it, preferably with a lot of statistics like in an RPG. I reflect a lot on my life anyway, including deep mistakes, and how cool wouldn't it be with perfect recall and full understanding. And I want to learn as much as possible. I want this cold and dark life to be good for at least something, know what I mean, lol. Could be that everyone eventually get one but (a) some with NDEs didn't go far enough into the afterlife, or (b) they did a review but don't remember it.
The extent to which it is reported does not reflect the extent to which it might actually happen, remember that :)
If we hold that our expectations create our afterlives, and that a therapist's expectations can influence what a client sees or experiences, then does that make assessing a medium's readings any more suspect? We should also probably imagine that every scientific experimental outcome, however rigorous, is influenced or created by the experimenter--which would explain why there have been diametrically opposite findings in some experiments that use the same protocols.
If that theory is true, then any religion that proposes that hell exists is pure evil and ought to be destroyed. Because that religion would literally bring hell into existence.
Funny synchronicity happened as I was listening to this video. I got a Facebook friend request from a dead person. Before I reported them and blocked them, I did message them and as them if they remembered that they died. I was pretty sure the friend requester was a scammer though, and not my friend.
Don't you love synchronicity like that? Are you by any chance related to the famous remote viewer, Pat Price?
@@kimcollie283 No relation that I know of. Originally my surname was Preis but changed around WWI to the English spelling.
I've experienced this.
But if hypnotic regression can yield specific details that can then be checked/verified, doesn't that rule out psychic contamination by the hypnotist?
The thing is, hypothetically, if the dying brain creates a fiction to ease a person into death is a valid explanation, why dont humans have more experiences with just regular old trauma? Humans suffer a lot. The best solution to suffering would be a brain just turning off, not creating one last fantastical fiction. And if nature is indifferent, that explanation just doesn’t pan out for me.
Good points…
I really like that question. My question is why does a Dying Brain do this instead of trying to solve the problem of dying.
The brain uses much of its energy keeping the brain cells in homeostasis, a state of dynamic equilibrium. When energy is lost, these processes are no longer able to maintain this state, releasing neurotransmitters in bulk. This creates the release of memories and sensations, especially the euphoria of serotonin and dopamine release. It is not a structured, designed event. It is the result of loss of energy that keeps the brain cells in equilibrium. This is why it doesn’t happen with trauma, and this is why dysregulation during imbibing of psychotropics does cause it. While the person may become brain dead later, it’s thought that this extreme activity at the moment of death causes these experiences.
@@jamessonne Well, sure, I suppose if you want to stick with materialistic view that we are meat zombies, completely regulated by structure and movement of ingredients. There is very good evidence, previously only in rats, and now in one human being, that prior to death the brain wave show an extremely energetic burst of coherent activity in gamma if I am not mistaken. I assume you follow Doctor Mishlove, and are aware of the award presented by Bigelow, for evidence that consciousness may be non-local, and not ultimately dependent on the brain, which doesn't dismiss correlation between brain activity, just that, there are other explanations. I suspect a better angle for an argument/response to my question would be to suggest Fear Death Experiences, which per PMH Atwater is the same as a NDE, only without the dying part; apparently just believing one is dying can result in all the same artifacts of NDEs, and that would be evidence that people with severe trauma-real or imaginary- do get 'hallucinations.' I have had a FDE, though. I have had an hallucinations. I have never experienced a hallucination as brilliant as the FDE. I have never had a regular dream as solid as the FDE. I lucid dream, and even my lucid dreams are not as profound as the FDE. Out of body experiences are just a degree different that I can distinguish between that and lucid dreaming- I can do things in LD that I can't in OBEs. Maybe these are all just different states, but the fact that we know these states exist and medical science ignores them, that's really kind of sad, considering how many inventions came from dreams, and Carl Jung's primary preferred interaction was shadow work and active imagination... If placebos are a mind thing, and hypnosis can cure with a rate better than placebo, on par with most medication without side effects, I could see why pharmaceuticals may not want that information shared. I think my argument against your explanation would be, then please explain all the people who had near death experiences and didn't have substantial instability of brain functioning resulting in NDE artifacts. We do agree they all lose neural coherence, right?
@@jamessonne The problems with this argument is as follows:
I.) Many NDEs happen when people are not in such a brain condition during their NDE. Obviously those NDEs were not caused by this explanation
II:) NDEs have a coherent structure such as a belief in leaving the body, going to another realm of existence, encountering deceased loved ones, some sort of judgement and then a return to the body. A memory dump wouldn't be so structured and why would a memory dump create a unified experience?
III) NDEs during cardiac arrest would not be explained by this as cardiac arrest removes consciousness.
IV.) While people considering hallucinations or dreams to be realm during the event, afterwards people realize it was just a hallucination or dream. Yet over 99 percent of NDErs are adamant that their NDE was " more real than real" and not a hallucination. Why this departure from the norm?
V.) Peek in Darien cases. This is where some reports seeing someone during the NDE who had died but they were not aware of their death until after the experience.
VI.) Life Reviews. Often times people report during life reviews that they feel the thoughts and perceptions of others, in particular those that they had hurt. How can a memory dump produce another persons thoughts and feelings.
VII.) This fails to explain NDE cases where NDErs accurately described their surroundings including their surgeries.
Lastly how do know a brain outside of a dynamic equilibrium will experience memories and sensations, even with the chemical releases you mention?. It is out of equilibrium and therefore not working properly. You cannot postulate a misfunctioning brain will correctly have any form of consciousness emergent from it via the chemical methods you mentioned. Remember it is no longer function properly.
Off my head that seems a few problems with this type of explanation which is why it is not accepted as an explanation for NDEs. This argument is not new basically.
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21:45 - That's a funny thought, ie. bureaucratic / union heaven. Where I could see that coming from though, conscious agents have needs and wants and I've always wondered how it is that game theory would vanish at death when game theory arises from the competition of conscious agents. Seems like the Chinese and a few other cultures might have been thinking about those problems and assumed they'd need similar solutions such as full employment, official office-chair movers, NIH, etc. to keep everyone happy.
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This was a good interview. Although, I have serious disagreement with your guest’s interpretation of NDE. For me, NDE accounts are a source for learning and I think we should not impose our prejudices on these reports. This experience is truly otherworldly and beyond our material logic. If someone reports that he/she has seen a being and sensed (understood) them as a saint or angle, that person is absolutely truthful in his/her observation. We cannot argue that they are mistaken just because we live in a secular time.
Thanks for your comment. This is a good point. I would absolutely agree with you that NDEs are a source of learning, and that's one of the main points of my research: that they inform afterlife beliefs around the world. I would certainly not want to impose any prejudices on NDE accounts, or say make the determination that they're mistaken. I hope I didn't give that impression. But culture does clearly influence the experience, and it's difficult to untangle what's cultural and what's not....
I don't think it would matter how many levels of England they had , they still couldn't play cricket .
@Amanda Jane 🌹 lol
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@Amanda Jane 🌹 thanks Amanda lol , where are you from ?
Jeffrey Mishlove reminds me of Dee Dee Ramone with the voice of David Lee Roth except smarter,
Dude in red looks like jeff bezos LOL
Consciousness creates its own reality, as it does in dreams. The afterlife may be similar to when we go to sleep and dream. The answer may be much closer. We experience a form of it every day.
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