My son bought a Tacoma in 2020, it has 40,000 street miles on it. It had it's 12 month inspection last month and the tires, (Ko2s), were measured at a 10. The 10 was the measurement when they were put on new. They've been driven in all types of weather without fault.
I only offroad my wrangler about four times a year but I always buy AT tires for the extra puncture resistance. Whether its freeway, parking lots, or offroad, getting flat tires suck.
I love the KO3 in the snow so far, but you are correct, your main concern should be if you need a durable tire. On the trail to my home I bashed the new tires against rocks and it didn’t blow out like the Falkens or Goodyears, so it’s a 10/10 in my book. Very good in the snow, I’d say 70% as good as a Nokian snow tire to be real. Still a dedicated snow tire is better - but the KO specifically is very good in the snow, especially slush
After 5 years and in the bush almost every month, I can attest to KO2s mainly allowing peace of mind regarding punctures. Capabilities compared to on-road tyres is honestly very marginal. Cost wise, 19inch KO2s costs the same as on-road 21inch high-speed SUV rated P Zeros I had on the, so might as well leave the KO2s on permanently.
I totally agree that the point of AT is toughness, not tread. I've put almost 20k on the Michelin all-seasons from the factory and have been fine off-road with them for most of it, including this weekend on muddy trail with 2-6" of crusty snow. We travel on gravel roads known for popping tires, and I'm looking forward to getting some KO2s or KO3s if these get shredded (or once they go their full tread life). Tahoe area is known for some gnarly potholes, too, and my KO2s never let me down on my last rig, even hitting some gnarly holes at full-speed. I have a buddy with a Tacoma who really loves the MT Baja Boss, and has been trying to convince me to try them out, too. From what I've read, they also have some pretty tough construction.
@Tindurbox I'm sure you already know BFG us owned by Michelin.. our OEM Michelin Lattitudes were bashed offroad... never had a blowout or any dryrot.. quality tire
thanks, we waited until we got to like 30k on both the KO2s and Falken Widpeak AT3ws before doing this review... the trashed Falkens got replaced with Firestone Destination AT2s... so far, so good... all tires are offroad 365... it was frustrating to see AT "reviews" primarily being "on road" focused... ✌️ ❤️ 🙇♂️
@@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD Whats even crazyier is to hear someone tell it how it is, if you want a rain tyre there are products just for this application. The push in the marketing is clearly these tyres can do anything and everything and they "educate" the reviewers on that.
Cubicle rated nonsense😂!! Almost good as locked, triple locked, and quadruple locked!!😂 I love the highway message “slaves”😂🎉. Mall rated tires lol😂😂😂😂 keep up the great work!!! ❤
Let’s look at the OEM’s…and what vehicles get the BFG!….Ford F150 Raptor, Ineos Grenadier in Trailmaster trim, Jeep Wrangler Rubicon, and others probably too that I can’t remember. Why are the BFG installed at the factory? For the reasons stated in the video. They are high quality and enhance the vehicle’s capabilities. 🎤
indeed 😃.. there are so many a/t choices these days many forget the are all bfg clones basically... with some just mimicking the look while abandoning the durability aspect
I killed my BFG K02's in 3 1/2 years going to Lake Tahoe, Big Bear, Anza Borrego, Joshua Tree, and Arizona multiple times. My new KO3's arrived yesterday. Getting them installed on Thursday. Hopefully, they're just as good, if not better, and last a bit longer. 🤞
Putting those KO3s on tomorrow and here in Tahoe we are supposed to get 2ft of snow the next couple of days. Hopefully they do great in the snow... I know they'll be perfect for Nevada mountains and desert.
The LX570 I’ve recently acquired came with a fresh set of Firestone Dest. AT2. Never had a set of ATs before but they’ve been great on and offroad which is surprising given how non aggressive the design is.
The new K03s are designed to handle the higher torques on the newer vehicles. They also have higher tolerances so should balance easier. My problem is my GX has the "Sport Package" which means I have 19" wheels. No offroad, not even a/t fits that i can find. So i need wheels and tires! Should i get 17" rims?
From a Canadian perspective, I’m curious to know what type of R&D would go into this tire to grant it the (three peak)snow and ice rating which in parts of Canada is required by law when driving in the winter months. Wouldn’t a tire company be sure as hell it’s somewhat designed for winter temps and snow before giving it this specific designation? Love your content btw, it’s blunt, humorous and very accurate.
basically the 3-peak symbol is a _minimum_ standard meant to help some A/T tires AND _all-season tires_ masquerade as winter/snow tires (yes A/S tires have the 3P symbol too)... a genuine snow tire is a truly thing to behold... Basically the 3peak symbol is a bs marketing certification (self certified by "various tire associations)... the test requires a 3P tire to accelerate 10% better than an _all season_ tire in snow... a genuine snow tire is at least 50% more traction... add studs and/or chains ⛓️ and ya even better...
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Thanks for subscribing 🙏 ❤️ 🙇♂️... sorry no XP with those tires and we hate to bs with fake tire reviews... we like to put 30k min of daily offroad use on a tire out here in the Mojave before offering our "opinion"... just so it's real and not fake. ✌️ ❤️
Nice review. I stopped buying ko2s due to them being over 350$. Ive picked up the Falken wildpeaks at3s for 248$ a tire. I run my tires till they are bald. Idc lol... 60k miles on the falken. Im in FL and i can attest to the dry rot cracks but they didnt appears till 50k miles. But than again we dont have 120 degree weather.
you throw shade at the open country at3s saying its a vanity tire. But mine have taken me to the same places as you with 0 issue. It sounds like you want a mud terrain tire.
@@Tindurbox I’ve had 4 sets of Duratracs in various sizes, a set of Geolandar G003’s in a 37x12.5, KO2’s in a 285/70 and 315/70, some half worn KM2’s in a 33x10.5 I got when I bought my 95 4Runner, and now 2 sets of 315/70 Goodyear Territory MT’s. Living in the mountains of UT I do tend to appreciate snow performance and the KO2’s and KM2’s were pretty bad. The KM2’s were straight up scary. I also found the KO2 to be kinda loud on pavement for both being a particularly aggressive tire. I never had any problems with them, but was never blown away. Especially for the price. Duratracs were the best in snow, almost like a snow tire. But they tend to be a bit soft and so you have to be super diligent about rotating them. Like 3000 miles. They also were a little squishy on road so I tended to have to run them a little higher pressure to get them to handle better. But they did well offroad being a bit softer. Surprisingly the Geolandars were pretty well behaved for how aggressive a tire they were. They were no louder than my KO2’s and were monsters in deep snow snow wheeling. I would pick them over KO2’s even on a daily driver. Better offroad with no worse manners on road. But overall, for a tire used daily in all sorts of conditions, I actually really like the Goodyear Territory MT. They are a narrow 315/70, more like a 285 in width, and are pretty light so they don’t kill your mpg. I use them to tow a 5500 lb trailer, offroad, daily, drive in snow, etc. they seem to do pretty well in all conditions. The only downside I’ve heard is they may wear fast. The best part is the price. Got a set of 5 brand new for $900. Even if I had to replace them every 30k miles, it wouldnt be a big deal at that price. Also, since they come on the Bronco Sasquatch, they are pretty easy to find cheap with a couple hundred miles.
lol. You’re confusing ATs with MTs. MTs are the ones designed to be spending all the time off-road. ATs are meant for . . . all terrains. They’re designed to balance off-roading with rain, snow, and pavement traction. If you only care about durability, you should purchase MTs. They’re generally much stronger and more puncture resistant.
@tyeetamer nah.. you're confusing all-terrains with mall-terrains... these are literally desert tires... all legit ATs will have Baja something or other stamped all over them... when the cubicle-dwellers decided that they liked the "aggressive looks" then they "became" associated with rain/snow/road performance. Mud tires are great.. for _mud_ lol... which is why they don't use mud tires or KM3s for the Baja 1000 😉 ... there's literally people "snow wheeling" in Desert tires because the mall-terrain marketing has distorted the history of a/t tires
@@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD Have you ever looked at a cross section of a K02? They’re really not that strong. Any decent MT will have better durability. I take my ATs off and put on MTs when off-roading in more remote places like the Arctic circle or towing heavy loads on rough non-maintained roads. Also, to imply that all terrains are primarily designed for desert conditions is comical. Yes, they will do better in sand than beefier treads, but as you mentioned in the video, AT tires are designed to be a compromise and reasonably good in a wide variety of conditions. Case in point, BFG sacrificing durability and off-road performance for improved wet weather and snow handling. Falken went the opposite direction with the AT4W. Only MTs are primarily designed for durability and off-road performance. MTs also do better in loose terrain like gravel or dirt so if you’re spending all your time off the highway it doesn’t make sense to run ATs. Completely agree that a winter tire is far superior than an AT tire with all-season compound.
Love you facted based reviews. Falken states that the 3W from the AT3W Wildpeak. comes from. the 3 parameters they tried to improve, this is Wear( most likely highway wear ) , Wet traction and Wnter performance. Definitely not a desert tire on any metric. I believe as well. that the main function of the AT tire is durability . If that is good, you look for what you need in your situation, if you live in a 4 season climate, if there are options to get something less compromised on road, where they will spend most of their life .. why not something less compromised in other areas. I used to have Yokohama Geolanders and people made fun of them , looked more like a road tire. Most asked question was how do they do off road, they do not look aggressive. Well I am on the same trail you are, what do you think, ? I did not care, I could run low pressures fine when need it and I never had a puncture. Like half price of a KO2, from a decent company . In my book that was good enough. I used them many years. For sure not as puncture resistant as a KO2. I always look at it as bang for buck type thing. Is the kO2 a tougher tire than a Wildpeak or a Geolandar ? sure. Is it woth it for my application ? Not really. If I did not manage. to puncture a Geolandar ....a KO2 would be little value. Where I live rains 220 days /year, dry rot. is not a factor., but traction in the wet is. . If I go on a trip in Sahara, or even in the US in the deserts there, would a KO2 or something similar be my first choice. ? Of course.
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I live in the Arizona desert, and you're 100% correct about the dry rot of the at3w. They have great traction but are not built to last
@Mandingobull thank you for your data... Wildpeak fans acted like I made up 12 punctures and rapid dryrot 😆... they just aren't a KO2
@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD I would like to try the newer ko3. They look more robust
I don’t off road enough to need ATs but I’m glad the Overtrail comes with them because they are snow rated.😂😂😂
Just drove through Mojave, up the 14 to 395. Good to visit my d stomping grounds. Thanks for the videos
My son bought a Tacoma in 2020, it has 40,000 street miles on it. It had it's 12 month inspection last month and the tires, (Ko2s), were measured at a 10. The 10 was the measurement when they were put on new. They've been driven in all types of weather without fault.
I only offroad my wrangler about four times a year but I always buy AT tires for the extra puncture resistance. Whether its freeway, parking lots, or offroad, getting flat tires suck.
Same here.
I love the KO3 in the snow so far, but you are correct, your main concern should be if you need a durable tire. On the trail to my home I bashed the new tires against rocks and it didn’t blow out like the Falkens or Goodyears, so it’s a 10/10 in my book. Very good in the snow, I’d say 70% as good as a Nokian snow tire to be real. Still a dedicated snow tire is better - but the KO specifically is very good in the snow, especially slush
Thank you for your real-world feedback on the KO3s it is appreciated 😀 🙏 🙇♂️
After 5 years and in the bush almost every month, I can attest to KO2s mainly allowing peace of mind regarding punctures. Capabilities compared to on-road tyres is honestly very marginal. Cost wise, 19inch KO2s costs the same as on-road 21inch high-speed SUV rated P Zeros I had on the, so might as well leave the KO2s on permanently.
I’m in Colorado and I can say that these BFG KO2’s are good in the snow as well
I totally agree that the point of AT is toughness, not tread. I've put almost 20k on the Michelin all-seasons from the factory and have been fine off-road with them for most of it, including this weekend on muddy trail with 2-6" of crusty snow. We travel on gravel roads known for popping tires, and I'm looking forward to getting some KO2s or KO3s if these get shredded (or once they go their full tread life). Tahoe area is known for some gnarly potholes, too, and my KO2s never let me down on my last rig, even hitting some gnarly holes at full-speed. I have a buddy with a Tacoma who really loves the MT Baja Boss, and has been trying to convince me to try them out, too. From what I've read, they also have some pretty tough construction.
@Tindurbox I'm sure you already know BFG us owned by Michelin.. our OEM Michelin Lattitudes were bashed offroad... never had a blowout or any dryrot.. quality tire
Nice to hear someone talk about the reality of these tyres and what its really like to live with them.
thanks, we waited until we got to like 30k on both the KO2s and Falken Widpeak AT3ws before doing this review... the trashed Falkens got replaced with Firestone Destination AT2s... so far, so good... all tires are offroad 365... it was frustrating to see AT "reviews" primarily being "on road" focused... ✌️ ❤️ 🙇♂️
@@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD Whats even crazyier is to hear someone tell it how it is, if you want a rain tyre there are products just for this application. The push in the marketing is clearly these tyres can do anything and everything and they "educate" the reviewers on that.
Cubicle rated nonsense😂!! Almost good as locked, triple locked, and quadruple locked!!😂 I love the highway message “slaves”😂🎉. Mall rated tires lol😂😂😂😂 keep up the great work!!! ❤
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@ anytime keep up the good work!! we’re common sense is not common. It’s nice to see someone cut through all the bullshit.! Thank you
Good points!!! Keep Grinding!!! 👍🏾✌🏾
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Let’s look at the OEM’s…and what vehicles get the BFG!….Ford F150 Raptor, Ineos Grenadier in Trailmaster trim, Jeep Wrangler Rubicon, and others probably too that I can’t remember. Why are the BFG installed at the factory? For the reasons stated in the video. They are high quality and enhance the vehicle’s capabilities. 🎤
indeed 😃.. there are so many a/t choices these days many forget the are all bfg clones basically... with some just mimicking the look while abandoning the durability aspect
Ive ran KO2'a all over Death Valley-good tire!
any dryrot issues there???
I killed my BFG K02's in 3 1/2 years going to Lake Tahoe, Big Bear, Anza Borrego, Joshua Tree, and Arizona multiple times.
My new KO3's arrived yesterday. Getting them installed on Thursday. Hopefully, they're just as good, if not better, and last a bit longer. 🤞
@@e5toro7008 keep us updated on the KO3s!! time will tell ✌️ ❤️
@@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD Yessir!
Putting those KO3s on tomorrow and here in Tahoe we are supposed to get 2ft of snow the next couple of days. Hopefully they do great in the snow... I know they'll be perfect for Nevada mountains and desert.
The LX570 I’ve recently acquired came with a fresh set of Firestone Dest. AT2. Never had a set of ATs before but they’ve been great on and offroad which is surprising given how non aggressive the design is.
@@2URLex we have Firestone Destinations on our Sienna:
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The new K03s are designed to handle the higher torques on the newer vehicles. They also have higher tolerances so should balance easier. My problem is my GX has the "Sport Package" which means I have 19" wheels. No offroad, not even a/t fits that i can find. So i need wheels and tires! Should i get 17" rims?
I believe 18" wheels were the original Landcruiser Prado 150 design/standard... perhaps start there??
Do you have any experience with Mickey Thompson tires?
sorry no 😞
Off topic questions. How many miles your gx460? And do you use regular or premium gasoline?
like 32k or something... it's still under warranty 😆
From a Canadian perspective, I’m curious to know what type of R&D would go into this tire to grant it the (three peak)snow and ice rating which in parts of Canada is required by law when driving in the winter months. Wouldn’t a tire company be sure as hell it’s somewhat designed for winter temps and snow before giving it this specific designation? Love your content btw, it’s blunt, humorous and very accurate.
basically the 3-peak symbol is a _minimum_ standard meant to help some A/T tires AND _all-season tires_ masquerade as winter/snow tires (yes A/S tires have the 3P symbol too)... a genuine snow tire is a truly thing to behold... Basically the 3peak symbol is a bs marketing certification (self certified by "various tire associations)... the test requires a 3P tire to accelerate 10% better than an _all season_ tire in snow... a genuine snow tire is at least 50% more traction... add studs and/or chains ⛓️ and ya even better...
@ thanks dude
So... how do these handle in the rain?
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I thought calling things Mickey Mouse was a Miami thing lol. Did you ever live over here ?
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P265/70R17 (OEM) to Nitto All Terrain G3 LT275/70R17... this tire is
approx. 10lbs. lighter than BFG KO3.
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Thanks for subscribing 🙏 ❤️ 🙇♂️... sorry no XP with those tires and we hate to bs with fake tire reviews... we like to put 30k min of daily offroad use on a tire out here in the Mojave before offering our "opinion"... just so it's real and not fake. ✌️ ❤️
Nice review. I stopped buying ko2s due to them being over 350$. Ive picked up the Falken wildpeaks at3s for 248$ a tire. I run my tires till they are bald. Idc lol... 60k miles on the falken. Im in FL and i can attest to the dry rot cracks but they didnt appears till 50k miles. But than again we dont have 120 degree weather.
on road is part of the selection process for all terrain tires as much as you wish it wasnt. You want mud terrains
for mall-terrain tires yes... for all terrain tires no
you throw shade at the open country at3s saying its a vanity tire. But mine have taken me to the same places as you with 0 issue. It sounds like you want a mud terrain tire.
you are not under any circumstances offroad 365 days a year for 30k miles... that is clearly explained in this video 😉 ✌️
Of the 5 or so A/T and M/T tires I’ve had, KO2’s have been my least favorite.
Which did you like most?
@@Jay-me7gw what do you recommend the most 🤔 👀?
@@Tindurbox I’ve had 4 sets of Duratracs in various sizes, a set of Geolandar G003’s in a 37x12.5, KO2’s in a 285/70 and 315/70, some half worn KM2’s in a 33x10.5 I got when I bought my 95 4Runner, and now 2 sets of 315/70 Goodyear Territory MT’s.
Living in the mountains of UT I do tend to appreciate snow performance and the KO2’s and KM2’s were pretty bad. The KM2’s were straight up scary. I also found the KO2 to be kinda loud on pavement for both being a particularly aggressive tire. I never had any problems with them, but was never blown away. Especially for the price.
Duratracs were the best in snow, almost like a snow tire. But they tend to be a bit soft and so you have to be super diligent about rotating them. Like 3000 miles. They also were a little squishy on road so I tended to have to run them a little higher pressure to get them to handle better. But they did well offroad being a bit softer.
Surprisingly the Geolandars were pretty well behaved for how aggressive a tire they were. They were no louder than my KO2’s and were monsters in deep snow snow wheeling. I would pick them over KO2’s even on a daily driver. Better offroad with no worse manners on road.
But overall, for a tire used daily in all sorts of conditions, I actually really like the Goodyear Territory MT. They are a narrow 315/70, more like a 285 in width, and are pretty light so they don’t kill your mpg. I use them to tow a 5500 lb trailer, offroad, daily, drive in snow, etc. they seem to do pretty well in all conditions. The only downside I’ve heard is they may wear fast. The best part is the price. Got a set of 5 brand new for $900. Even if I had to replace them every 30k miles, it wouldnt be a big deal at that price. Also, since they come on the Bronco Sasquatch, they are pretty easy to find cheap with a couple hundred miles.
lol. You’re confusing ATs with MTs. MTs are the ones designed to be spending all the time off-road. ATs are meant for . . . all terrains. They’re designed to balance off-roading with rain, snow, and pavement traction. If you only care about durability, you should purchase MTs. They’re generally much stronger and more puncture resistant.
@tyeetamer nah.. you're confusing all-terrains with mall-terrains... these are literally desert tires... all legit ATs will have Baja something or other stamped all over them... when the cubicle-dwellers decided that they liked the "aggressive looks" then they "became" associated with rain/snow/road performance. Mud tires are great.. for _mud_ lol... which is why they don't use mud tires or KM3s for the Baja 1000 😉 ... there's literally people "snow wheeling" in Desert tires because the mall-terrain marketing has distorted the history of a/t tires
@@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD Have you ever looked at a cross section of a K02? They’re really not that strong. Any decent MT will have better durability. I take my ATs off and put on MTs when off-roading in more remote places like the Arctic circle or towing heavy loads on rough non-maintained roads.
Also, to imply that all terrains are primarily designed for desert conditions is comical. Yes, they will do better in sand than beefier treads, but as you mentioned in the video, AT tires are designed to be a compromise and reasonably good in a wide variety of conditions. Case in point, BFG sacrificing durability and off-road performance for improved wet weather and snow handling. Falken went the opposite direction with the AT4W. Only MTs are primarily designed for durability and off-road performance. MTs also do better in loose terrain like gravel or dirt so if you’re spending all your time off the highway it doesn’t make sense to run ATs.
Completely agree that a winter tire is far superior than an AT tire with all-season compound.
Love you facted based reviews.
Falken states that the 3W from the AT3W Wildpeak. comes from. the 3 parameters they tried to improve, this is Wear( most likely highway wear ) , Wet traction and Wnter performance. Definitely not a desert tire on any metric. I
believe as well. that the main function of the AT tire is durability . If that is good, you look for what you need in your situation, if you live in a 4 season climate, if there are options to get something less compromised on road, where they will spend most of their life .. why not something less compromised in other areas. I used to have Yokohama Geolanders and people made fun of them , looked more like a road tire. Most asked question was how do they do off road, they do not look aggressive. Well I am on the same trail you are, what do you think, ?
I did not care, I could run low pressures fine when need it and I never had a puncture. Like half price of a KO2, from a decent company . In my book that was good enough. I used them many years. For sure not as puncture resistant as a KO2.
I always look at it as bang for buck type thing. Is the kO2 a tougher tire than a Wildpeak or a Geolandar ? sure. Is it woth it for my application ? Not really. If I did not manage. to puncture a Geolandar ....a KO2 would be little value. Where I live rains 220 days /year, dry rot. is not a factor., but traction in the wet is. . If I go on a trip in Sahara, or even in the US in the deserts there, would a KO2 or something similar be my first choice. ? Of course.