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Best Windsurf Gear For Beginner's | WHAT TO BUY?
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- Опубликовано: 14 авг 2024
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00:00 - 00:31 Intro
00:31 - 01:50 Explaining different boards/disciplines
01:50 - 03:05 Board Volume
03:05 - 03:38 Board Width
03:38 - 04:30 The Goal
04:30 - 06:05 Check Your Level
06:05 - 08:13 Be wary of old gear
08:13 - 08:54 Outro
I taught my friend to sail on my Viper 80. He learned on a 4.5, and moved up to a 6.7. After a year with it, he moved up to my 152 liter Bic Techno that he sails with my 6.0 and 6.7.
Agreed on the 'don't get old gear', even if it is for free. Take a few lessons, rent, borrow, ask advise (from Nils of course) and then buy (second hand possibly, but NOT ancient). When you progress (depends on how many hours you are able to spend on the water) you sell your first gear and buy something back with a little less volume. Good video Nils. Hope to see more tutorials again :)
Really depends how old. I agree if we talk about that narrow nineties stuff. However, there are boards from around 2005 that already have a suitable wide outline (~160l with less than 260 length and more than 80cm width). For example, I got a Hifly Madd 162 from that era which I learned on.
II did exactly that mistake. Bought a whole package for $1000 New zealand $ and find the board (165 l) super wobbly and the sails to heavy to get out of the water. Despite having done some lessons I feel I am not going anywhere and still having trouble just staying on the board when there are small waves. And there are always waves where i live... I wish I would have seen your video earlier. Thanks for the content.
Thank you for that helpful Video. One thing I'd like to add: When you start planing, you'll do some catapults. Then, quite often the mast crashes the board. For that reason I would recommend a used board (not an old one as you explained; but a used one). I myself bought a new one. And the first ding broke my heart.
I do not agree with you about old gear. While its true that in the 70 and early 80, windsurfs brands were trying to sort out what shape works and what doesn't, starting from the 90 boards are pretty descent and fully working. A lot of people were windsurfing back then, probably more than today despite of the boards being supposedly "easier". I learnt from scratch at age 43 on a 1990 bic metal rock, 139 liters and maybe 65 cm wide. Took me about 5 sessions on my own to be able to sail and come back to where I started without walking. So its totally doable although many people nowadays would consider it nearly impossible :) Still today this board is one of my favorite boards. I litterally hate wide modern boards because they essentially push the water, they have 0 glide until you put them on the plane, which requires good technique and big sails. Old, long and narrow gear transitions smoothly from 0 speed to planing, with less technique and smaller sails. Yes lateral balance is a bit more demanding but that's not nearly as big a deal than most people like to make out.
So my advice is: for $200 you can find a full, complete equipment (that's 1 or 2 boards + 4 sails + 3 masts + harness + boom + ...) so do not get fooled by marketing; save money, get on the water and practice practice practice !
I (kind of re-) started with a board and sails from about 1990something, and I liked it. But it was physical hard. Our child started after a course on the same gear with me and had less fun than me, because my frustation tolerance is much higher. Now with a better board and cheap but "new" sail for both of us it's much more fun! But It was worth it (the old stuff), because it brought me to windsurfing and our son too.
very true, the main point is just to get started, but as you say people who don't have a high frustration tolerance can get put off by choosing difficult gear, I learned myself on a Fanatic Bee and Mistral Equipe II Raceboard, which also wasn't ideal but still good enough to start the spark ;)
I rode this AV Chubby you recommend. But it likes put its nose in the wind very extreme Its a difficult strange board for starters... But when you kicked the nose in the right direction and plane its a beast. But no beginner board
Really helpful content for less highly specialized windsurfers :D looking forward to more " beginner" videos
Your videos are getting better and better. Looking forward for more to come 👍
thumb up as always ;) i like the idea of a how-to series for beginners. please dont forget the protectors part. not every beginner have to completely smash their 1500€ board in the first month with catapults while learning planing like i did :/
While planing is great, not all places have great wind so don’t forget longboards.
My parents sailed the original Windsurfer and we upgraded to Equipes, Malibu's, Explosions, Eruptions, Edges, Tiga boards, F2 boards, went to the Gorge every summer of the 90's and now I'm foiling a Slingshot Dialer in addition to having lots of free ride gear and a few beginner boards for my kids (START, Viper).
My first planing experience was on my Klepper S5 back in 1982, first board was Dufour Wing in 1981.
Thank you for advices -- much appreciated!
Hi just watch your video, I strongly agree on do not buy beginner gear (sails/board...) but it depends a lot on your sailing experience. I started windsurfing 2 years ago with foiling (sailing teacher in catamaran) and then in november 2022 buy a 73 isonic as my first fin board. In my opinion you should focus more on the shape (program) and width of the board than on the liter. For beginner I advise no cam sport sails ( e pace, speedster,...) to help with lighter handling and fast planning. Regarding the board you can go easily on freerace board (futura, rocket +, blast....) to have more fun
I bought new gear and get completely stucked and nearly stopped windsurfing. What you really need to progress fast is a spot with constant wind! I wanted to learn on bavarian lakes, but the wind there is so inconsistent that, when you use new gear, you need to have 5 sails and 2 boards and then find the right combination for the current conditions. That was exhausting. I got blown away downwind several times, so no fun at all! That's why I selled nearly everything after two years. I think modern stuff is only made to make money! The boards are so crappy, if you hit it a little bit, then it brakes (Look at Nico Prien's surftrip from Kiel to Denmark).
Now I do only wingfoiling and sometimes windsurfing with my retro Windsurfer LT, if the conditions are too light or inconsistent.
this high end boards really need to be treat like a raw egg.
Habe letztens auch meine alte Fanatic Bee bei 25 bis 30 Knoten wind raus geholt - War schon ein sehr besonderes Erlebnis.
Super video! But: I started back up after 30 years off the board with a free Mistral Bermuda, and have passed it on to others who are just beginning as well. I also got an ancient, free, Fanatic Viper that I teach people on and have take out on light wind days. I have been on new stuff like the Starboard Go and the new Viper and while they are wider, they are shorter and therefore not as stable as the Mistral Barge (Bermuda). lots of people who buy old gear to learn are getting boards well above their ability and get frustrated and quit.
I agree. If your beginner board is too small, you may get frustrated and stop learning. You can still have fun with a big old board even when you have learned the basics. I don't agree that a beginner should buy a board 50 liters over body weight. I would go at least 100 liters over body weight if not more. Unfortunately professionals forget how difficult it was to learn.
The beginners in my family are using a 2017 RRD Firemove 135. I havent seen a wider board with this volume. 85cm wide.
Hi Nils...Really helpful piece of advice..but i would suggest to coeemtna little about boards fitted with daggerboards...Wich i consider important for beginners as well...and guidelines on where to buy all the stuff...All happiness.
Thx Nils great video
great video!
Hi, my weight is similar to yours. What do you think about the Starboard Carve 139/149 for windsurfing and foiling (they have foilbox ready)? I feel like I'm a beginner or slightly beyond. I currently use the JP 115 FreeFoil for both windsurfing and foiling, but it's difficult to pump up the sail in low wind conditions to take off on foiling. The board tends to sink, and sailing with the fin is also challenging. The wind conditions are very irregular, ranging from 10 to 20 knots, and I always end up in the water. For example, sinking with the entire board, experiencing a catapult, or landing on my back, depending on the wind speed in a few seconds. That's why I thinking about other board for foiling and windsurfing together.
Thank you for this video. - Can you recommend any gloves for winter windsurfing?
Informative
6:50 LOL! The era of no harness allowed in world windsurfing championships…
you're wrong : there are old offers also for beginners, as far as there were some beginners boards too - ok not that easy- If you had lessons in a club or school on a wide 160 litersX90cm board, you can purchase a 160 board X 65 that was the medium "allround" funoard back in the days.. it costs 50 bucks on ebay, then the next year you can change for en 130 liters X60 at the same price etc...
Beginner: Singular. Beginners: Plural. What the f*** is that apostrophe for?
Great informative video, bro 👍 you got a new subscriber too
hi Nils, I wrote you on Messenger for advice, thanks.