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11:20 don't make yourself look like an ass when you made an otherwise good video. If you have to turn off something your children are using when you've told them not to? You haven't raised your kids right. Maybe that's a bigger problem than a home power panel.
18:50 ... Nobody ever discusses whether or not you need to have an inverter generator to get clean power to this thing. I wish everybody online would discuss how clean the power has to be.
20:55 when you connect to the PROTRAN, slow down. DO A LITTLE BIT BETTER AT TRANSITIONS. Show the type of connection on each cord. Step back and give a "finger-flow demonstration" of how the panel is transferring from the Eco flow to the protran to the protected loads panel. Let the finger show the way. ... I'm an engineer and even I need to go back and make sure I grasped it. For example, I'm presuming that the umbilical passes from the male receiver of the protran up to the transfer switch, then down to the traditional breakers. The point is that the power flows from the umbilical up and then back towards the center section. Non-technical types would need to understand. Call it oldmani-itis from an engineer who transitioned into industrial training and teaching shop.
25:14 ... You said you "could run a stove, air conditioning and dryer." ... I think you meant STOVE, OR AIR CONDITIONER, OR DRYER ... AND WHILE IT'S A LONG VIDEO, YOU SHOULD HAVE SHOWN TWO STOVE TOP BURNERS.
Wow, that's a super cool setup. They've made it so easy for the average user and I like the many different connectivity options. An average person would pretty much just need an electrician for that panel install, then can manage everything else themselves. Easy!
Really appreciate your videos because you are articulate, funny, very knowledgeable and passionate about solar energy and technology. The explanations are spot on and enable anyone to follow your advice and directions. Lastly, the music you put at the end of the video is tasteful. Thank you very much for sharing your knowledge with us.
Thanks for the review, you have answered my questions on what I need for a home back up power system. I want to have my gas boiler, internet router, fridge, freezer and sump pump to always have power; especially when we are not home. The EcoFlow Smart Home Panel 2 with Delta Pro Ultra is what I have been considering, and your video has answered all my questions....thank you.
Incredible video! Best one on RUclips for the DPU and SH2. Running a 4 ton AC (with soft start) was amazing, but essentially running that oven blows my mind 🤯. Granted you won’t be able to do either for very long, but at least you could if you wanted to. Thank you for demonstrating the capabilities in such a well organized way. Nice work! 💪🏼
So if I understand correctly, you can’t power the main panel with the sub panel but only power the breakers that are in the sub panel? Seems like the 50a generator plug will power more if the house?
Good stuff. I got a good laugh at the stovetop segment. "And look at that, all of the"....poof! All of those burners on high had to be pulling a huge load. "Ultra" that! Still, that's pretty impressive how the residential side of solar generators is improving so quickly. I seems that EcoFlow has about the best remote software on the market as well...incredibly functional although it probably takes some time to sort all of the choices out.
I have 2 of these DPUs with 3 batteries each totaling 36kWh. I'm running them to the EF 50amp Hub then 50 amp cable into inlet with interlock on main and manually managing loads. I love having the option of using these at night and then gennie during the day. I have had a cpl of weather related outtages and we've had no issues at all. Love these monsters. What screws me is the location of our service panel. Our basement is originally finished, and they stuck our service panel in the corner of our laundry room. Of all places, it sits above and to the left of our dryer. Anytime you open the panel, you are looking at it in a weird angle. Eventually, I may get it relocated out of the laundry room to another area and make it a more direct purpose utility room so I can get the SHP2 installed and take full advantage of these capabilities.
Am I able to run off the grid and my generator still kick in, but still have ecoflow powered for only certain devices all the time like it’s on the grid?
Its a nice setup for people who dont want to build there own system. Its like legos all plug and play i like it for that. Also fir emergencies like hurricane or earthquake these would be easy to roll out to scale in these kind of emergencies
I’d like to know just one thing. How long will one battery last powering 1 refrigerator that is rated at 724kwh a year. Eco flow said 8 hours. That doesn’t even sound close
One thing I can’t seem to find is any information on the 50amp hub…why has no one really talked about it? Can you install it and charge your DPU’s with it? Or is it discharge only? Can I hook 2 DPU’s up to it and connect to my generator switch to my electric panel? Do I need to have an alternative charge source for the DPU’s? Like a dual fuel generator? Or solar? I can’t seem to find that information
Thanks Joe for sharing your knowledge and experience with these plug-and-play batteries systems. I am following your videos, and over the years I see undoubtedly how Ecoflow, Anker, … are expanding their line up to new side products (Ecoflow Powerstream, Smart Home panels,….) I would like to begin somewhere with home PV installation and power backup, but I am still torn between these new fancy App-friendly systems (Ecoflow, Anker, Hyawei, BYD,…) and good old school systems (Victron, Growatt, SMA,…) which started to build their wired systems around rock-solid inverter/converter units. The new brands are less expensive at the beginning and allow the end user with a smartphone to carry on many changes himself, the old school model allows for a much longer expected life expectancy (25 years for a complete Victron based home backup system with PV panels and ev-charger and ….) but requires an electrician to come for each tiny modification of the wiring or even new setup of a single unit. What is your take on life expectancy of these new brand products ? and since they are releasing new products line up almost every year, what is your take on inter-compatibility between the yearly line up (e.g. have you seen limitations due to their proprietary plugs and socket systems) ? Thanks and keep up with your good stuff 👍 Edit: I was Youtubbing a little further and I found already an answer about an example of backwards compatibility issue: the new Ecoflow Delta Pro 3 is not compatible with the first series of Delta Pro 1 battery and Smart Home Panel 1, I guess many owners are now trapped
So did the inverter stop due to overload? If so, zero explanation if you had stopped the AC units or anything else in the house to test the ovens a second go around. Was it too much for the system to handle?
This is the most concise to the point no hype tutorial I have ever seen. Sir so the Delta pro Ultra can also be recharged via an inverter LP gas generator? TY
I have watched a few videos and yours, by far, is the most detailed. I am guessing that there is no way to implement this with solar and still do net metering? Not being able to do that would be the only deal breaker for me.
Thank you and appreciate that. Yeah this one cant do net metering BUT I think they are working on a system that does. Dont know the timeline on that yet tho.
@@AveRage_Joe Hope that not-too-distant net metering version is backwards compatible with the DPU. They might have some very unhappy existing customers if it doesn't (me being one). Too, they've got homework to do if and when so, because in this region we are beholden to Duke Energy where battery and/or systems must be approved by their "Power Pair" department... I am told (by a local solar integrator) the approval process moves at a speed slower than cold molasses. The SHP2 is a slick unit but EcoFlow should quickly launch an SHP3 (or whatever it would called) that is at least 200 amp service and offer many more breaker slots. If they really want to knock it out of the park, they should also go after SPAN.
A complicated question Using the DP3 and DPU on the smart panel together I want to connect my 4000 EF new generator to the DP3 and program it when the battery drops to 20% to automatically start the DP3 up to 100% is there any way to have the DPU charging has well or only the DP3 will DC direct charge ? I tried to get answer from EF no luck so far.
That is a great question and since I dont have the generator I cannot say for sure BUT just thinking about it I would say no unless it allows equalization between the 2 different models.
Great great video. Thank you. You are doing an awesome job , Question 1 Generator with the smart panel When batteries are low and I start the generator will the gen recharge the DP and take the house load at the same time ? Question 2 Generator with out the smart panel . Can I use the generator 220 v to charge the DPU and use the 220v ate the same time ? or am I limited to charge with 110 only ? Thanks
Yes on the generator. Will need to flip the interlock from "grid" to "generator". Yes also on #2 Others have shown an adapter that plugs into the side of the DPU, then your 240v generator cord to that.
@captmichel8035 let me clarify on question 1 after rereading. When you say house load, are you referring to grid power or the circuits in the panel? If the former you can't use grid power and the generator to power your circuits at the same time. The interlock makes it so it's one or the other, not both. If the latter, my original answer still stands
Here a few more practical questions, Question 1 Generator with the smart panel When batteries are low and I start the generator will the gen recharge the DPU and take the house load at the same time ? Question 2 Generator with out the smart panel . Can I use a generator 220 v to charge the DPU and use the 220v ate the same time ? or am I limited to charge with 110 only Question 3 Will you come out with a automatic generator connection like the DP that starts automatically when batteries are low. 4- Will My smart generator be able to have a special connection to start automatically and charge the DPU? 5- Are the batteries UL compliant to make installation in the house ? 6- It appears that We can remotely install the DPU in the garage and have the connection box with it then run the 110/110/N/G (4) wires and the data cable to the house inside where we could mount the SHP close tho the main home panel? Am I correct ?
@captmichel8035 1. Yes. As long as the interlock is flipped from "grid" to " generator". 2. Yes. Full 220v/240v. 3. I don't work for ecolflow so can't answer that. Sorry. 4. No. They've show that the DPU can only 120v charge from the front AC plug. No smart charging unless they come up with an answer to question 3. 5. I honestly can't find anything to confirm they are UL listed. 6. Yes. The lower black part can be removed and mounted elsewhere. Panel can even be mounted outside.
Question, when connecting the device through the dedicated cable to the Smart Home Panel, does it retain a 30amp max draw as if you were using the 240v 30amp plug on the front without the panel?
@@AveRage_Joe that’s what I thought. What about when you add the second and third inverter? Does it increase respectively by 30amps for each inverter? I can’t seem to find that information online or I am overlooking it one. Thanks in advance!
Nice Video Joe! I do have a question for you on the transfer from grid to battery operation. In the video you said it takes a couple of seconds for the smart panel to sync with the grid. By this do you mean it looks to match phase with the grid and then makes the transfer? One of the big issues we all have with the Delta Pro is when going from inverting from battery to grid pass through, the DP doesn't make sure it's in phase / frequency sync with the previos state. This can and does cause rotor lock in refrigerator and air conditioner compressors. If your mostly off grid like us and use the grid as a charging backup we have to be super careful when we make the transition from running on battery to running on grid. I currently look at my Delta Pro output to see if the fridge and freezer are off before switching grid charging on to my delta pros. If I don't I sometimes get rattling from the compressors and then they are in rotor lock which draws a big wattage until the overloads click out on their start relays. People who do RVs have the same issue when connecting to shore power when arriving at the campsite. I sooooo hope EcoFlow has corrected this issue with the Ultra and Smart Home Panel 2. "All" this would take is for the software to make sure the sine wave from the DPU and Grid match each other before the transfer relay clicks over. Do you have any input on this? Thanks!
Tell me, do you put any UPS connections to your refrigerators, as I noticed that every time I switched from grid to off grid manually, the refrigerators would demand a huge amount of wattage for around 10 to 20 minutes. It wasn’t until I added some cheap UPS’s to each refrigerator, that that stopped happening.
I havent but should cause I try out and test many systems. I need to put one on the cable modem and router as well cause if there is am app. I usually have to wait lol
Thank you for sharing the information. I am trying to figure out the solar panel part. I have an existing solar system on my roof connected to a SolarEdge Inverter. Is it possible to connect my existing roof solar system to the ECOFLOW Delta Pro Ultra as an input? Thanks.
It's always exciting to watch your videos. They're inspiring and encouraging that anyone (with some common sense to ask for help) can do this. I have a couple projects lined up based on your inspiration. Thank you for your time and creativity. I know it takes work to produce a video like these.
Thank you and 100% Appreciate that! Yes it really is getting easier and easier these days. Thats what makes it so great. Just about anyone can do this! Thanks again!💥💁♂️
Thanks! I see you name says Husker Fan. You in Nebraska? I am in Omaha btw😆 Anyway, if your generator is 240v, you can direct wire it to the SHP2 generator breaker. If going to the Ultra, you would need the input/output to generator adapter cable. If your generator is only 120v, you coulr only use the regular 120AC charging like it was plugged into a wall outlet.
@@AveRage_Joe That's really cool! Yes, I'm also in Omaha. Small world. I haven't bought the generator yet but will be buying a 240v. My thinking is, in case of a power grid outage and no sun(cause I have solar panels) I'd recharge the DPU's using a generator. Just have to figure a method to do this the best way. You have more videos on how this process could work best?
Thank You! This is what I do! Gotta show it in action to see if it works! Also, I did not get paid for this BUT they did obviously send everything. Thanks for the comment BTW, I appreciate that!!🤘
So the smart panel will auto trigger ecoflow backup when the power is out? Which do you prefer for recharging the ecoflow? Generator on the main panel or smart panel 2? Once the generator kicks in it will supply power to the whole house at the same time charge ecoflow?
Yeah it will auto turn on and continue powering your stuff. I actually havent tried the gen port on the SHP2 yet but yes, once the generator kicks on it will charge and power stuff at the same time as long as the generator is powerful enough.
What a fantastic review, thank you! Question: So, the only way you can power your whole (existing) panel is to use the generator hub and the lockout switch? Seems like the smart panel 2 limits you to only a few breakers. What are your thoughts on this?
Thanks! Yeah the only way to power the whole home would be to do as I did and go through the 50a hub and lockout and backfeed the main panel. The smart panel could also accept the single slot breakers but have 2 breakers on them so you could get up to 24 circuits BUT you will still only have control of the 12 slots. I think the main goal is to take all the critical loads off the main panel and move them to the smart panel. If you have any room left then add more loads. It really depends on what you would want to do or what your goal is. If you want auto switching if the power goes out or time of use features. Then you would want the smart panel. If you want to start your journey going off grid, go without the panel first. One ultra is good for 30a out the front 240v outlet. If you get the 50a hub then you can connect 2 ultras in parallel for the 50a output OR if you have 2 delta pro's then you could use those as well. If thats not enough then you would need the panel to parallel 3. If you parallel 3 together, you better cram as much as you can in that panel to include the BIG draw items. Oh and solar too😉
Great informative video. Can you use the 240v outlet in the front and charge at the same time using the 240 on the side by using a generator or a 240v wall say during off peak hours?
if I ever get a place of my own, I would be utilising a setup like this, due to the fact that when you get a power outage it would switch over to the backup system and at the same time so you can fully charge the ecoflow unit via the grid and solar pannels to maintain the levels of the charge from solar and grid, or one or the other....a very good setup, but can understand why you would need a licence electrician to setup the system.
Yeah its a really nice system and can do everything you want. The electrician part for most is installing the panel and running or transfering all the wiring. I did everything myself.
So far two questions, they have a trade in program and i already have a delta pro, should i keep that and just use it with the ultra? Will the ecoflow smart generator work in the generator port? Great video
Excellent video, thank you! Did you get a chance to check out the Time of Use mode? I'm curious whether this is something SHP2 does automatically via the app or if you need to come down and manually disconnect the main breaker every time (like you were doing to simulate a power outage).
Thanks! TOU mode works fine. You just need to setup the times ect to go on battery. I only disconnected to show that it will go to battery if grid goes out. You can also just manually go off grid when you want and everything is done throught the app.🤘
Question- so you have several circuits from your main panel going into the EcoFlow smart home panel 2.. what circuits does the delta pro ultra pull from when you go to charge the battery from the grid?
Any idea if you can safely aggregate circuits from your main panels? 12 breaker bays (let alone 100A) feels very low to me if it's to be a whole home backup in 2024.
Great video. After Helene I have been researching systems like these and this is the one that looks to be the best option versus putting all of the components together yourself. Thank you for this video. Is there a way to charge this system with a non-inverter generator like the Predator 13000W?
Thanks! How did you fair after Helene? I have been watching videos NON STOP! I wish I could be there to help!! Yeah this is a great system, easy to setup and expand when you want. It is generator ready with transfer switch/lockout. I have an old military 5kw diesel genny that I still need to test out on this but dont see why it wouldnt work. My genny is still in my driveway which is far away from panel and that is the only reason I havent tried it yet. I would Love to hear about your situation there and my heart goes out to ALL! Only if you wanted to share, my email is averagejoestuff@gmail can also help if you have questions.🤘
Great video! If you had two Ecoflow inverters, you can plug both into the Ecoflow hub and get more power, right? Then you would have more power for the stove and or to run more higher wattage items at one time. Or is this too much for the Generator Hub? Thanks.
Yep, that is correct. Adding the 2nd inverter to the generator hub would allow for 14.4kw worth of inverter output which would get us moar for the stove plus other stuff at the same time.
Did I miss the price? When I click the link in your description it goes to the ecoflow page, but there's something wrong on the page and shows nothing for me. I'm on mobile though.
This is really interesting. Thanks for explaining it so clearly. I saw the various breaker sizes you mentioned. Could I add a 60 amp breaker out to another sub panel and add 2 more 30 amp breakers to the second sub panel ? Thinking there are 12 breakers to use but I’d like to add a couple 30 amp for a stove oven and for a dryer. But don’t want to take up the space for 15/20 amp breakers that are important in an outage. My main panel is currently 200 amp service. Thanks
It is interesting! Its mind boggling too lol. Yeah you could add a 60a breaker and then out to another sub panel. Just remember that you would only have control of that 60a breaker (on the smart panel) and not the 30a breakers on the other panel. For the 15/20 breakers places and not wanting to take up space, in my other sub panel( furthest to the right) I use a few breakers that have 2 15a or 2 20a breakers in them and they fit in the single slot. From your main 200a panel, you would install 100a double pole then run to a 100a double pole in the smart panel. Then add all the stuff you want to add for you off-grid or outage enjoyment.
@@AveRage_Joe i wonder how the smart panel would react to putting a double 20 amp breaker into one slot? Is it the slot that’s controlled by the app, or the breaker ?
@Barc7580 Yeah its the slot that is smart so both would be shut off/on. Another side note to that now that Im thinking of it is the current draw would show for both as well.
I already have solar panels on my house that power my home during the day and sell back the used electricity that I send back to the grid. Can I charge the EcoFlow system with my existing solar panel setup? I keep hearing that there is a limit to the amount of solar charge the EcoFlow will accept. I am just not clear what that really means.
It wont accept AC coupled solar systems so all you need to do is plug the units into the wall to charge or if you have the SHP2, then charge from grid. Any excess solar you make would be used to charge. If you wanted to add more solar, you would direct wire to the Ultra and not use any inverters. Hope that helps
I would like to see a set up like this that could be topped off with a standard gas/propane generator during use. This would be handy to run the generator during the day to charge for a few hours then use the battery over night. We need one with the 30 amp generator inlet for charging, lol. That's true back up power. During a hurricane and stormy weather your not going to have much any solar or grid power. Will the smart panel allow charging from a generator and provide power to the home at the same time?
I could make this happen with my old military 240v 5kw diesel generator. All Id need to do is run some wire and install the breaker at the top of the panel. Once on gen power it should power the panel as the grid would and also charge. You would need a 240v gen to do this if I didnt mention that. I will also mention the gen is in my driveway at the moment. Waiting for some snow to melt so I can move it to the back yard and closer to the panel.😄 Only way to charge from a regular 120v gen would be like plugging the ultra into a wall and up to 1800w charging. I dont think the panel would be powered at this time but can check to make sure.
Thanks! This is awesome info! Question if you know: can you install double 110v breakers (2 in single size) to maximize space in the panel, and configure them in the app?
Thanks for watching. I was just mentioning this to @Barc7580 in a comment above(or below). The slot is smart so the 2 in 1 would turn on/off both. It would also show the current/watts for the 2 as well.
Do you have a plan in case the SHP2 fails electronically? Is there a way to bypass the smarts and make it "dumb" again without having to swap the entire subpanel out?
@average_joe thanks, I really want to get this panel, but I need a guarantee that I’m not left without any of my critical circuits in case of any failure.
Curious on the code requirement for DC PV Cables to be in metal conduit. Maybe a dumb question but how do you connect to the High V PV input and maintain the metal conduit code requirement?
Right.....By code any DC solar entering a structure needs to be in a metal raceway. If you needed it to be up to code for an inspection, You could use the liquid tight flexable metal clad or even regular metal conduit to a metal box and attach the box to the inverter or something similar. If your not getting the ultra inspected, I would just run metal conduit down the wall to a box with MC4 connections, then short cables to the ultra.
Nah gloves are not electrical gloves. I just wear them for Everything. I only have the SHP2 at this time. I am interested in electrical work and I just cant seem to pay someone else to do work for me if I am fully capable. Some information you learn or pickup over time.🤘
@AveRage_Joe, SO based on your Vids and Suggestions i bit the bullet on the Ultras and the SHP2... I have a question about the SHP2 and within the App itself. Since the SHP2 has the ability for 2 single pole breakers, if i have 2x20amp would i need to tell the SHP2 in the App that this is a 40amp Circuit, and 2x15 would be 30amp... etc.. Cant seem to get the correct answer or find that anywhere. Also assuming there is no way to have that separated in the APP to tell it what each breaker is, only the circuit so would have to do a Fridge/Office type naming convention... Thanks, seriously enjoy all your vids.
Awesome! Yeah in the app if you have singles then set them up as single 120v 20a since they are singles. Same for the 15a. 2 seperate circuits. If you put in a double pole 20a, then set it up as a 240v 20a, not a 40. Does that help or answer your question.
Great Job Joe, Since the HP2 has only 12 addressable circuits, it limits the number of 240 Volt options. Would it be possible to create a separate 240 switch with multiple 240 circuits (e.g. Dryer, AC, Oven etc.) that could turned on separately? Maybe connected via the 240 outlet to a transfer switch. That way in a power out situation they could be separately powered by the battery. The other question would be could the HP2 also work if the 240 Volt plug is connected simultaneously to the transfer switch (Protrans et. al.)?
Yeah thats an option. Id run a sub panel off the SHP2 then you could run that panel with the other items and at least monitor and turn on/off the panel when needed. For the protran, yeah you can use that at any time weather grid is there or not.
It does not send power back to grid. It does not do AC coupling. Yeah you can charge from solar and grid and you can also power your loads with grid, solar and battery. Or did I misunderstand your question?
Imagine a high rise building built horizontal instead of straight up. Space is key and weights 120lbs. Easier to pick something up that’s 2-4ft off the ground instead of the floor.
My home has two electrical panels which are not near each other. So, does that mean I need to have two EcoFlow smart panels and two sets of inverter/batteries - one for each electrical panel? Thank you.
Is it possable to just run a gas generator, 240v to the DPU for charging on cloudy days. Then run a 240v out from the DPU to a small breaker box for distributing small loads for off grid living? This is just for a single DPU unit. And if so , how?
Excellent video. The price point concerns me for what it can actually do when a power outage occurs. Some questions I have though is: 1. If 7200W is all it can handle, why are they claiming this to be a whole home backup solution? If I have a two story home, wouldn’t I need a traditional standby generator like Generac that can handle 26kW to maintain power for the whole house during a power outage/storm? 2. What’s the benefit of adding a second battery as part of the DPU? Will it still only handle 7200W but just stay on for a longer period of time (than a single battery)? 3. If I wanted to power entire downstairs of a two story house (including furnace, AC), how many of these DPU would I need to buy? Noise, taking up yard space and maintenance costs with traditional Generac generators are cons for sure but would this DPU really be better investment long term? DPU seems more expensive and handles less power requirements in a house. Appreciate your thoughts/feedback on these questions.
1, 2, or 3 story doesn't matter. Your electrical load is what matters. You're electrical panel is most definitely NOT divided by floors. I have a single story house with a main panel on one end and a subpanel on another. 7200 watts would power almost anything in a traditional house. Add 2 more inverters and your at 21.6kw. Just a bit lower than the 26kw generac. It's marketed as whole home backup because it is. Back up being the keyword here. You should only be using essential loads during a blackout. The generac will no doubt power the whole house at once but at 15k-20k for install, it's about the cost of 3 DPU's with an SHP2 professionally I stalled. That's 21.6kw of inverter power, but also 18kw of battery power. Plus smart functionality to turn on/off individual circuits. Adding solar, while an additional cost, would allow you to lower your dependence on the grid. Which in turn lowers your light bill, which put money back in your pocket. The generac will never do that. Adding batteries doesn't change the inverter. It's the equivalent of putting a bigger gas tank on your car. It won't change its power output but it will run longer. Add solar and you have a day to night source for filling your "tank".
@@JohnSmith-wt3mwI’ll rephrase for our house situation… there’s a panel in the garage which has lighting for rooms, furnaces, refrigerator, microwave, etc and then another panel outside of the house for larger loads like air conditioners, oven, and cooktop. Would the smart home panel plus DPU be able to connect to circuits that are on the panel on the outside of the house for the larger load appliances or would it only be able to connect to the panel in the garage for the lower load items? Also in total this can only provide 7200W, correct? Thanks in advance.
@@eyewatchsports5549 You seem to have large loads on both panels. I'm assuming the one that is outside is your main 200amp panel? And the garage is a 100amp subpanel? The short and dirty is yes, and SHP2 can be connected to either 1 or both. You can even connect just a DPU to either 1 or both. Although it would lose the backup functionality and individual circuit control, it would be a much simpler install. Cheaper too. It all really depends on what you wanna back up and how much money you wanna throw at it. 7200 watts is correct. Even with 5 batteries under it. But add a 2nd or 3rd DPU to the SHP2, and that goes up to 14.4k-21.6kw. Equivalent to some large whole home NG/propane generators. That being said, a single DPU is not gonna last you very long if the power goes out. Especially If your goal is to run all those heavy loads, unless you have means to charge the batteries. Solar, wind, a gas generator, etc.. Are you looking to back up every circuit in your whole house? Or just the essentials to make it through an outage? Do you have any solar? Or means other than the grid to charge them?
You also need to remember is with this system, you use it everyday which can save you money everyday. Plus you will use it in an emergency. The big generator you would use only at random events/emergency. Also a generator that size is pretty big to be honest. Generators should be ran at 80% load. I am not saying generators are bad and shouldnt be used but do you need or use that much power during those times. I have a 5kw and can get by just fine. You can install this panel near either panel and can add any circuit you want to take off grid or use in an emergency.
@@JohnSmith-wt3mw Thanks for responding, John. I live in an area that experiences extreme heat in the summer which have led to occasional rolling blackouts and also the last few years have had to deal with multiple power outages in January/February with below freezing temperatures due to power grid issues (pretty sure you can guess where this is in the US). It seems like these grid issues aren’t going away with these swings in temperatures yearly and lot of folks here are opting to go the route of spending big on gas generators like the Generac 26kW to not have to worry about grid issues and keep everything running at their home. I personally can’t see myself paying that amount for a Generac 26 kW generator (that sits in my yard and makes noise) for emergency usage only so that’s why I was intrigued when I watched this video about this DPU and SHP2. I also like the idea of being able to occasionally power some circuits in my house at peak times from the DPU rather than paying the energy company. I also like that this isn’t noisy. I don’t have solar, wind or any kind of generator currently. The only way I would charge this would be through the grid (could possibly look at connecting solar to this but that’s more money I would have to spend down the road). The panel I have outside of the house is the main panel (I assume it’s 200A) since it has the switch for main on it and has larger loads like two air conditioners, oven and cooktop. The panel in the garage is for everything else (I assume it’s 100A). I think my goal would be to keep power on everything downstairs (and not worry about upstairs) in the event of a power outage for as long as possible. So that would mean one air conditioner from outside main panel, oven from outside main panel, cooktop from outside main panel, furnace for downstairs in garage panel, one water heater, kitchen, and other rooms downstairs from garage panel. How many DPU plus SHP2 would I need to accomplish that and where would they physically need to be installed at the house? And could I even install/connect/setup a DPU plus SHP2 outside next to the main panel (because they’re not rainproof/weatherproof are they)? Thanks in advance for taking the time to answer my questions and explain this. I really am genuinely interested but want to know what the setup, cost and how long this backup power solution could power on the downstairs portion of the house for. Appreciate your help/feedback.
@thedabbler2753 Sure it is. It's not rocket science. It looks like the middle panel is his main. Probably 200amp service. Probably put two 100amp 240v breakers in there. One wired to the subpanel on the right and one wired to the SHP2 on the left. 4 wires each breaker. Red-hot, black-hot, white-neutral, and green-ground. Neutrals and grounds seperated in each sub panel. Pretty simple stuff actually.
For mine I have the center as my main. The right subpanel is wired from the main. The SHP2 is wired from the subpanel. Main reason I did it this way atm is I could power all 3 panels from the 50a generator inlet plug. I also have other systems so having it wired this way allows me to have multiple layers of backup options. Also cause I test out systems😄
Smart Home Panel 2 is rated 100 amp. So if running simultaneously you probably could if your AC doesn't exceed 50A but if other household functions are wired to breakers in the SHP2 you're going to have a problem. That's my issue with the SHP2... not enough capacity. Am hoping they release ASAP a 200A version with more breaker slots and net metering capability too.
@@bobedsall5625 My house isn't that big and is only a 2 ton unit and new so it doesn't draw a ton of watts. Actually my house is on a 100 amp box and I have no issues charging my car and the AC running and doing whatever I want in my house. Thank you for the response
Amazing video, man, thanks! Just a question: can I use the battery as my primary source and the grid as a backup? (and say, keep using the grid until the battery is fully charged)
Thanks! Yeah you can do that for sure. Just put it in self-powered mode which takes you off grid. It will switch back to grid when you reach the min %SOC you have set.
I just have 1 question that ecoflow didn’t. I’m interested in purchasing this as emergency back up only. One of the three appliances has a power usage of 724kwh a year. I’m wanting to know how long will the one battery last just powering the one refrigerator
My fridge shows in the app that it draws an average of 1.7kWh in 24hrs. Some days a little more and some days a little less. Out of a 6000wh battery, that equals 3.5 days but well say its just 3 days.
Great video. I keep missing if this can function like a true grid tied battery bank. Can this output to the main panel based on power usage? For example cover all power usage at night if it is below the inverter output rate and the battery capacity?
Nope, this unit cannot backfeed the main panel. It supplies output power to the load that you connect only. The smart panel is just a fancy subpanel that has transfer switches in it that "turn on" if the power goes out to continue powering the load OR if you give it a "command" or "task". Hope that helps clear up any confusion.
@@AveRage_Joe so it can sectionalize itself from the main panel to supply only the critical loads from the battery? I guess maybe it can be programmed to switch to running on battery on its panel at a certain time of day when solar stops generating enough.
Yes, it has a transfer switch inside to power the panel from battery if grid goes down OR if you select off grid mode. You can also select certain breakers(loads) to go on battery whenever you want and vice versa.
@@AveRage_Joe totally interested to see what settings the app has to control this. Essentially the main loads of your house can be split to run off the battery at night when you're not generating with solar and swap back when battery charge state is low. And the loads not on the smart panel would remain fed from the grid.
I am getting a condo and I work from home. If I lost power during work hours, I would need to power my refrigerator and office (overhead light, computer, router, and monitor). Everything else I could get by without. Would this type of setup be overkill or should I just get a Delta Pro 3 and wheel it out when I lose power? I should also mention that I work 9 hours a day, I could need it to be on battery for all that time.
I just did a vid on the D3 (so its fresh in my mind) and my house load was avg 800w. If I draw 800w from it, I would get about 4-1/2hrs run time which included my big pc. You would need to figure out your load but guessing it would be similar. Either system would be great. I would get at least 1 expansion battery if you get the D3.
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I am looking at this setup, with 2 Batteries (12kw storage). hooking a 2500W array up to it, and using it as my "Shore" power on my RV to connect through the 30A 240V plug. My question, could this be used to power my whole RV, and would i be able to recharge this battery with a gas Generator should solar be lacking?
Yes you could power your entire RV as long as the MAX rated power is 7200w or surge to 10kw. As for gen charging. If it is 120v, then you would use the supplied AC cable and plug it into the generator just like a wall outlet. Charge up to 1800w. If its a 240v gen, then I believe all that is needed is the generator adapter cable that plugs into the side of the inverter(input/output port). I dont think you need the 50a generator hub but can make sure if you have a 240v gen. Let me know
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Very good video, excellent information and demonstration, panel is killer! What solar panels do you recommend and what is the manufacturer for the panel ground mount brackets?
@AveRage_Joe, Question, if i have a generator and i want to Charge this and not go directly to an inlet, can i plug a Genie Directly into the unit and charge while the home is on Bat Backup? If so am i limited to the just the 110 AC input for charging? Thanks
If you hire an electrician, they usually take care of permits. There is no backfeeding the grid with this system BUT you can do time of use for the high electric rate or just keep those breakers off grid if you have enough solar.
@@AveRage_Joe Another question for you.... What if the main breaker panel is outside? Would they be able to install the lower half of smart home panel(Where delta pro ultra plugs into panel)inside the garage(wall opposing the main breaker panel)?
@@jbrockskill You bet! The lower box is designed for that and can be removed and reinstalled anywhere! With longer wire of course that the electrician would install.
That would be cool if we could but no. The batteries inside are higher voltage and I am not sure on the battery cable. I think it needs the data lines in order to read if connected.
Could you not use the low power pv port to input your diy LPF battery bank, it definitely falls within the range of the low power pv port. I do this with the Delta pros.
Yeah you could extend the runtime this way for sure. If thats what Ben was asking, I 100% misunderstood lol. I was thinkin he ment more of just adding a diy battery🤦♂️😆
Is there a way to get the Smart Home Panel 2 to power everything in the house? The way im understanding this is that you would only be able to power the 12 circuits actually on that panel from the Delta Pro Ultra and then if the grid was down the other circuits would be unpowered, correct?
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11:20 don't make yourself look like an ass when you made an otherwise good video. If you have to turn off something your children are using when you've told them not to? You haven't raised your kids right. Maybe that's a bigger problem than a home power panel.
Stop the herky-jerky editing particularly on the "three ways to use it." Give people a chance to process the information. Teachers call it WAIT TIME.
18:50 ... Nobody ever discusses whether or not you need to have an inverter generator to get clean power to this thing. I wish everybody online would discuss how clean the power has to be.
20:55 when you connect to the PROTRAN, slow down. DO A LITTLE BIT BETTER AT TRANSITIONS. Show the type of connection on each cord.
Step back and give a "finger-flow demonstration" of how the panel is transferring from the Eco flow to the protran to the protected loads panel. Let the finger show the way. ... I'm an engineer and even I need to go back and make sure I grasped it.
For example, I'm presuming that the umbilical passes from the male receiver of the protran up to the transfer switch, then down to the traditional breakers. The point is that the power flows from the umbilical up and then back towards the center section. Non-technical types would need to understand.
Call it oldmani-itis from an engineer who transitioned into industrial training and teaching shop.
25:14 ... You said you "could run a stove, air conditioning and dryer." ... I think you meant STOVE, OR AIR CONDITIONER, OR DRYER ... AND WHILE IT'S A LONG VIDEO, YOU SHOULD HAVE SHOWN TWO STOVE TOP BURNERS.
Presentation is well done and easy to understand. Ecoflow doesn’t need salespeople with videos like this.
Great job 👍
Thanks! Appreciate that!🤘
this is probably the best video i've seen on this SHP2 yet! nicely done!
Thank You! Much appreciated!🤘
Agreed! You do a great job of showing how it would be used in most home grid scenarios. Thanks for this.
Thank you for watching!
Best ecoflow ultra setup video I have found so far. Thank you. Just got my Ultra yesterday and this answered my questions.
Awesome and Thank you for that!🤘
Wow, that's a super cool setup. They've made it so easy for the average user and I like the many different connectivity options. An average person would pretty much just need an electrician for that panel install, then can manage everything else themselves. Easy!
100% have made it super easy! You can just plug in whatever you want! CRAZY! Smart panels are crazy cool too!🤯
Really appreciate your videos because you are articulate, funny, very knowledgeable and passionate about solar energy and technology. The explanations are spot on and enable anyone to follow your advice and directions. Lastly, the music you put at the end of the video is tasteful. Thank you very much for sharing your knowledge with us.
Thank You and 100% Appreciate that!💥🤘
Would’ve been nice to see how long the one battery would’ve lasted with the AC running or just the dryer running.
Two words, very nice. One word, expensive. Nicely done video.
The last one was 3 words🤭🤪Thanks for watching!🤘
Thanks for the review, you have answered my questions on what I need for a home back up power system. I want to have my gas boiler, internet router, fridge, freezer and sump pump to always have power; especially when we are not home. The EcoFlow Smart Home Panel 2 with Delta Pro Ultra is what I have been considering, and your video has answered all my questions....thank you.
Thanks and thanks for watching. It can do all of those things!💥🤘
Incredible video! Best one on RUclips for the DPU and SH2. Running a 4 ton AC (with soft start) was amazing, but essentially running that oven blows my mind 🤯.
Granted you won’t be able to do either for very long, but at least you could if you wanted to. Thank you for demonstrating the capabilities in such a well organized way. Nice work! 💪🏼
Thank you and 100% Appreciate the comment. Seemed like most of the other vids I watched just kinda glossed over everything🤷♂️
So if I understand correctly, you can’t power the main panel with the sub panel but only power the breakers that are in the sub panel?
Seems like the 50a generator plug will power more if the house?
Can you connect another battery to this. Like a 5kw rack battery that only costs 1500
I dont think so on these. I think the actual battery voltage on these are different then the standard 48v battery range (42-58v).
Nice demo. Do you have step by step installing the smart panel 2?
Good stuff. I got a good laugh at the stovetop segment. "And look at that, all of the"....poof! All of those burners on high had to be pulling a huge load. "Ultra" that! Still, that's pretty impressive how the residential side of solar generators is improving so quickly. I seems that EcoFlow has about the best remote software on the market as well...incredibly functional although it probably takes some time to sort all of the choices out.
Great video. One question - using this hub 19:17 can you connect 2 DP on AC1 and 1 DPU on AC2 and have the 50amp out to the inlet box?
Thanks! Yes I am pretty sure I have done this in a video or I posted the video on the EcoFlow RUclips channel.
I have 2 of these DPUs with 3 batteries each totaling 36kWh. I'm running them to the EF 50amp Hub then 50 amp cable into inlet with interlock on main and manually managing loads. I love having the option of using these at night and then gennie during the day. I have had a cpl of weather related outtages and we've had no issues at all. Love these monsters. What screws me is the location of our service panel. Our basement is originally finished, and they stuck our service panel in the corner of our laundry room. Of all places, it sits above and to the left of our dryer. Anytime you open the panel, you are looking at it in a weird angle. Eventually, I may get it relocated out of the laundry room to another area and make it a more direct purpose utility room so I can get the SHP2 installed and take full advantage of these capabilities.
can you use the panel to supplement what is being used with solar? So only pull what you need from grid while using solar as much as possible?
Was there ever an update on your usage of the Ecoflow Delta Pro Ultra?
Am I able to run off the grid and my generator still kick in, but still have ecoflow powered for only certain devices all the time like it’s on the grid?
How many man-hours will it take to have a certified electrician installing the two sub panels to the left of the standard circuit board?
Its a nice setup for people who dont want to build there own system. Its like legos all plug and play i like it for that. Also fir emergencies like hurricane or earthquake these would be easy to roll out to scale in these kind of emergencies
Awesome smart home panel. Works very well. I like it
I’d like to know just one thing. How long will one battery last powering 1 refrigerator that is rated at 724kwh a year. Eco flow said 8 hours. That doesn’t even sound close
Yeah it is a pretty sweet panel. Seems like endless possibilities.
This was an awesome review, thank you for sharing.
Thanks for Watching!💥🤘
One thing I can’t seem to find is any information on the 50amp hub…why has no one really talked about it? Can you install it and charge your DPU’s with it? Or is it discharge only? Can I hook 2 DPU’s up to it and connect to my generator switch to my electric panel? Do I need to have an alternative charge source for the DPU’s? Like a dual fuel generator? Or solar? I can’t seem to find that information
Thanks Joe for sharing your knowledge and experience with these plug-and-play batteries systems.
I am following your videos, and over the years I see undoubtedly how Ecoflow, Anker, … are expanding their line up to new side products (Ecoflow Powerstream, Smart Home panels,….) I would like to begin somewhere with home PV installation and power backup, but I am still torn between these new fancy App-friendly systems (Ecoflow, Anker, Hyawei, BYD,…) and good old school systems (Victron, Growatt, SMA,…) which started to build their wired systems around rock-solid inverter/converter units. The new brands are less expensive at the beginning and allow the end user with a smartphone to carry on many changes himself, the old school model allows for a much longer expected life expectancy (25 years for a complete Victron based home backup system with PV panels and ev-charger and ….) but requires an electrician to come for each tiny modification of the wiring or even new setup of a single unit.
What is your take on life expectancy of these new brand products ? and since they are releasing new products line up almost every year, what is your take on inter-compatibility between the yearly line up (e.g. have you seen limitations due to their proprietary plugs and socket systems) ?
Thanks and keep up with your good stuff 👍
Edit: I was Youtubbing a little further and I found already an answer about an example of backwards compatibility issue: the new Ecoflow Delta Pro 3 is not compatible with the first series of Delta Pro 1 battery and Smart Home Panel 1, I guess many owners are now trapped
So did the inverter stop due to overload? If so, zero explanation if you had stopped the AC units or anything else in the house to test the ovens a second go around. Was it too much for the system to handle?
This is the most concise to the point no hype tutorial I have ever seen.
Sir so the Delta pro Ultra can also be recharged via an inverter LP gas generator?
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Thank You! Yeah you can use a genny as backup power AND recharge at the same time!😀🤘
Can this be grid tied? Send power to the grid?
Nope. Off grid only
Great video!!!!!!! Joe you are the best
Thank You!💥🤘
I have watched a few videos and yours, by far, is the most detailed. I am guessing that there is no way to implement this with solar and still do net metering? Not being able to do that would be the only deal breaker for me.
Thank you and appreciate that. Yeah this one cant do net metering BUT I think they are working on a system that does. Dont know the timeline on that yet tho.
@@AveRage_Joe Hope that not-too-distant net metering version is backwards compatible with the DPU. They might have some very unhappy existing customers if it doesn't (me being one). Too, they've got homework to do if and when so, because in this region we are beholden to Duke Energy where battery and/or systems must be approved by their "Power Pair" department... I am told (by a local solar integrator) the approval process moves at a speed slower than cold molasses. The SHP2 is a slick unit but EcoFlow should quickly launch an SHP3 (or whatever it would called) that is at least 200 amp service and offer many more breaker slots. If they really want to knock it out of the park, they should also go after SPAN.
A complicated question Using the DP3 and DPU on the smart panel together I want to connect my 4000 EF new generator to the DP3 and program it when the battery drops to 20% to automatically start the DP3 up to 100% is there any way to have the DPU charging has well or only the DP3 will DC direct charge ?
I tried to get answer from EF no luck so far.
That is a great question and since I dont have the generator I cannot say for sure BUT just thinking about it I would say no unless it allows equalization between the 2 different models.
I have a Delta pro ultra with one battery. I installed a 30 amp inlet and connected it directly and it works fine. Curious why you did a 50 amp inlet?
Great great video. Thank you. You are doing an awesome job , Question 1 Generator with the smart panel When batteries are low and I start the generator will the gen recharge the DP and take the house load at the same time ? Question 2 Generator with out the smart panel . Can I use the generator 220 v to charge the DPU and use the 220v ate the same time ? or am I limited to charge with 110 only ? Thanks
Yes on the generator. Will need to flip the interlock from "grid" to "generator".
Yes also on #2
Others have shown an adapter that plugs into the side of the DPU, then your 240v generator cord to that.
that's great news to be able to do that thanks. @@JohnSmith-wt3mw
@captmichel8035 let me clarify on question 1 after rereading. When you say house load, are you referring to grid power or the circuits in the panel?
If the former you can't use grid power and the generator to power your circuits at the same time. The interlock makes it so it's one or the other, not both. If the latter, my original answer still stands
Here a few more practical questions, Question 1 Generator with the smart panel When batteries are low and I start the generator will the gen recharge the DPU and take the house load at the same time ?
Question 2 Generator with out the smart panel . Can I use a generator 220 v to charge the DPU and use the 220v ate the same time ? or am I limited to charge with 110 only
Question 3 Will you come out with a automatic generator connection like the DP that starts automatically when batteries are low.
4- Will My smart generator be able to have a special connection to start automatically and charge the DPU? 5- Are the batteries UL compliant to make installation in the house ? 6- It appears that We can remotely install the DPU in the garage and have the connection box with it then run the 110/110/N/G (4) wires and the data cable to the house inside where we could mount the SHP close tho the main home panel? Am I correct ?
@captmichel8035 1. Yes. As long as the interlock is flipped from "grid" to " generator".
2. Yes. Full 220v/240v.
3. I don't work for ecolflow so can't answer that. Sorry.
4. No. They've show that the DPU can only 120v charge from the front AC plug. No smart charging unless they come up with an answer to question 3.
5. I honestly can't find anything to confirm they are UL listed.
6. Yes. The lower black part can be removed and mounted elsewhere. Panel can even be mounted outside.
Convection has a fan in it. It's kind of like an air fryer, except it's super easy to dry out anything you're cooking.
Oh lol thats it...just a fan. Convection makes it sound so francy🤷♂️😆
That's what marketing departments do. They sell you convection, which basically means radiate, and just slap a shop fan in the back of it 🤭
Can you do one if you are fully off gid no grid power hooked up?
Yeah I dont see why you couldnt. All you need to do is supply the panel with power like an inverter.
Great Video! Very insightful I will be installing one on my home now!
Thank You! Its a great system! Tons of options and can keep track of everything!
Question, when connecting the device through the dedicated cable to the Smart Home Panel, does it retain a 30amp max draw as if you were using the 240v 30amp plug on the front without the panel?
It will do what the inverter is capable to do which is 7.2kw or 30a.
@@AveRage_Joe that’s what I thought. What about when you add the second and third inverter? Does it increase respectively by 30amps for each inverter? I can’t seem to find that information online or I am overlooking it one. Thanks in advance!
Yep, each inverter will add 7.2kw to the total output. So 2 would be 14.4kw and 3 would be 21.6kw. 🤘
Thanks you Joe for your Smat Panel 2 demo. I enjoyed it and learned a lot from it.
Glad to hear it!
Nice Video Joe! I do have a question for you on the transfer from grid to battery operation. In the video you said it takes a couple of seconds for the smart panel to sync with the grid. By this do you mean it looks to match phase with the grid and then makes the transfer? One of the big issues we all have with the Delta Pro is when going from inverting from battery to grid pass through, the DP doesn't make sure it's in phase / frequency sync with the previos state. This can and does cause rotor lock in refrigerator and air conditioner compressors. If your mostly off grid like us and use the grid as a charging backup we have to be super careful when we make the transition from running on battery to running on grid. I currently look at my Delta Pro output to see if the fridge and freezer are off before switching grid charging on to my delta pros. If I don't I sometimes get rattling from the compressors and then they are in rotor lock which draws a big wattage until the overloads click out on their start relays. People who do RVs have the same issue when connecting to shore power when arriving at the campsite. I sooooo hope EcoFlow has corrected this issue with the Ultra and Smart Home Panel 2. "All" this would take is for the software to make sure the sine wave from the DPU and Grid match each other before the transfer relay clicks over. Do you have any input on this? Thanks!
Thanks for the great working review.
Thanks and Appreciate that!💥🤘
Hey Joe why is red light on smart panel 2 when your off grid
Just an indicator showing grid is not there.
Tell me, do you put any UPS connections to your refrigerators, as I noticed that every time I switched from grid to off grid manually, the refrigerators would demand a huge amount of wattage for around 10 to 20 minutes.
It wasn’t until I added some cheap UPS’s to each refrigerator, that that stopped happening.
I havent but should cause I try out and test many systems. I need to put one on the cable modem and router as well cause if there is am app. I usually have to wait lol
@@AveRage_Joe
Yeah, I only caught it because I have Victron connect app, which lets me see any surges.
Thank you for sharing the information.
I am trying to figure out the solar panel part.
I have an existing solar system on my roof connected to a SolarEdge Inverter. Is it possible to connect my existing roof solar system to the ECOFLOW Delta Pro Ultra as an input?
Thanks.
I am investigating that very question on existing AC Coupled solar.
@@AveRage_Joe Curious if you got around to answering that question - I'll dig through your videos to see if you have :)
If you emailed me I resopnded. If not, I dont think its possible for an existing AC coupled system to be wired directly to ecoflow.
Can you charge the ecoflow with the generator from the panel 2?
It's always exciting to watch your videos. They're inspiring and encouraging that anyone (with some common sense to ask for help) can do this. I have a couple projects lined up based on your inspiration. Thank you for your time and creativity. I know it takes work to produce a video like these.
Thank you and 100% Appreciate that! Yes it really is getting easier and easier these days. Thats what makes it so great. Just about anyone can do this! Thanks again!💥💁♂️
I watched this many times! you did an awesome job! Question: If I have an outside propane generator running, how can I hook that up to the SHP2?
Thanks! I see you name says Husker Fan. You in Nebraska? I am in Omaha btw😆 Anyway, if your generator is 240v, you can direct wire it to the SHP2 generator breaker. If going to the Ultra, you would need the input/output to generator adapter cable.
If your generator is only 120v, you coulr only use the regular 120AC charging like it was plugged into a wall outlet.
@@AveRage_Joe That's really cool! Yes, I'm also in Omaha. Small world. I haven't bought the generator yet but will be buying a 240v. My thinking is, in case of a power grid outage and no sun(cause I have solar panels) I'd recharge the DPU's using a generator. Just have to figure a method to do this the best way. You have more videos on how this process could work best?
Great video Joe! You made it again👍👍
Thank You! You have some Amazing Gear!💥🤘
Awesome video Joe! This is the only video on this that seems to show anything that didn’t just look like a paid advertisement! Well done!
Thank You! This is what I do! Gotta show it in action to see if it works! Also, I did not get paid for this BUT they did obviously send everything. Thanks for the comment BTW, I appreciate that!!🤘
So the smart panel will auto trigger ecoflow backup when the power is out? Which do you prefer for recharging the ecoflow? Generator on the main panel or smart panel 2? Once the generator kicks in it will supply power to the whole house at the same time charge ecoflow?
Yeah it will auto turn on and continue powering your stuff. I actually havent tried the gen port on the SHP2 yet but yes, once the generator kicks on it will charge and power stuff at the same time as long as the generator is powerful enough.
What a fantastic review, thank you! Question: So, the only way you can power your whole (existing) panel is to use the generator hub and the lockout switch? Seems like the smart panel 2 limits you to only a few breakers. What are your thoughts on this?
Thanks! Yeah the only way to power the whole home would be to do as I did and go through the 50a hub and lockout and backfeed the main panel. The smart panel could also accept the single slot breakers but have 2 breakers on them so you could get up to 24 circuits BUT you will still only have control of the 12 slots. I think the main goal is to take all the critical loads off the main panel and move them to the smart panel. If you have any room left then add more loads.
It really depends on what you would want to do or what your goal is. If you want auto switching if the power goes out or time of use features. Then you would want the smart panel. If you want to start your journey going off grid, go without the panel first. One ultra is good for 30a out the front 240v outlet. If you get the 50a hub then you can connect 2 ultras in parallel for the 50a output OR if you have 2 delta pro's then you could use those as well. If thats not enough then you would need the panel to parallel 3. If you parallel 3 together, you better cram as much as you can in that panel to include the BIG draw items. Oh and solar too😉
Great informative video. Can you use the 240v outlet in the front and charge at the same time using the 240 on the side by using a generator or a 240v wall say during off peak hours?
if I ever get a place of my own, I would be utilising a setup like this, due to the fact that when you get a power outage it would switch over to the backup system and at the same time so you can fully charge the ecoflow unit via the grid and solar pannels to maintain the levels of the charge from solar and grid, or one or the other....a very good setup, but can understand why you would need a licence electrician to setup the system.
Yeah its a really nice system and can do everything you want. The electrician part for most is installing the panel and running or transfering all the wiring. I did everything myself.
So far two questions, they have a trade in program and i already have a delta pro, should i keep that and just use it with the ultra? Will the ecoflow smart generator work in the generator port? Great video
Excellent video, thank you!
Did you get a chance to check out the Time of Use mode? I'm curious whether this is something SHP2 does automatically via the app or if you need to come down and manually disconnect the main breaker every time (like you were doing to simulate a power outage).
Thanks! TOU mode works fine. You just need to setup the times ect to go on battery. I only disconnected to show that it will go to battery if grid goes out. You can also just manually go off grid when you want and everything is done throught the app.🤘
Will this support Well and Furnace at the same time?
If its a gas furnace I would say yes for sure. If its an electric heat furnace. I am unsure. I know those can use some POWER!
Question- so you have several circuits from your main panel going into the EcoFlow smart home panel 2.. what circuits does the delta pro ultra pull from when you go to charge the battery from the grid?
Circuits are moved over from the right sub panel. That sub panel also powers the SHP2. SO It will charge from the same sub panel.
Any idea if you can safely aggregate circuits from your main panels? 12 breaker bays (let alone 100A) feels very low to me if it's to be a whole home backup in 2024.
Great video. After Helene I have been researching systems like these and this is the one that looks to be the best option versus putting all of the components together yourself. Thank you for this video. Is there a way to charge this system with a non-inverter generator like the Predator 13000W?
Thanks! How did you fair after Helene? I have been watching videos NON STOP! I wish I could be there to help!! Yeah this is a great system, easy to setup and expand when you want. It is generator ready with transfer switch/lockout. I have an old military 5kw diesel genny that I still need to test out on this but dont see why it wouldnt work. My genny is still in my driveway which is far away from panel and that is the only reason I havent tried it yet. I would Love to hear about your situation there and my heart goes out to ALL! Only if you wanted to share, my email is averagejoestuff@gmail can also help if you have questions.🤘
Great video! If you had two Ecoflow inverters, you can plug both into the Ecoflow hub and get more power, right? Then you would have more power for the stove and or to run more higher wattage items at one time. Or is this too much for the Generator Hub? Thanks.
Yep, that is correct. Adding the 2nd inverter to the generator hub would allow for 14.4kw worth of inverter output which would get us moar for the stove plus other stuff at the same time.
Did I miss the price? When I click the link in your description it goes to the ecoflow page, but there's something wrong on the page and shows nothing for me. I'm on mobile though.
I didnt have the pricing when I was making the video sadly but I just checked the link and it does show pricing. I tried on pc and android phone.
$5799
This is really interesting. Thanks for explaining it so clearly.
I saw the various breaker sizes you mentioned.
Could I add a 60 amp breaker out to another sub panel and add 2 more 30 amp breakers to the second sub panel ?
Thinking there are 12 breakers to use but I’d like to add a couple 30 amp for a stove oven and for a dryer.
But don’t want to take up the space for 15/20 amp breakers that are important in an outage.
My main panel is currently 200 amp service.
Thanks
It is interesting! Its mind boggling too lol.
Yeah you could add a 60a breaker and then out to another sub panel. Just remember that you would only have control of that 60a breaker (on the smart panel) and not the 30a breakers on the other panel.
For the 15/20 breakers places and not wanting to take up space, in my other sub panel( furthest to the right) I use a few breakers that have 2 15a or 2 20a breakers in them and they fit in the single slot.
From your main 200a panel, you would install 100a double pole then run to a 100a double pole in the smart panel. Then add all the stuff you want to add for you off-grid or outage enjoyment.
@@AveRage_Joe outstanding.
Many thanks for the reply
@@AveRage_Joe i wonder how the smart panel would react to putting a double 20 amp breaker into one slot?
Is it the slot that’s controlled by the app, or the breaker ?
@Barc7580 Yeah its the slot that is smart so both would be shut off/on. Another side note to that now that Im thinking of it is the current draw would show for both as well.
I already have solar panels on my house that power my home during the day and sell back the used electricity that I send back to the grid.
Can I charge the EcoFlow system with my existing solar panel setup? I keep hearing that there is a limit to the amount of solar charge the EcoFlow will accept. I am just not clear what that really means.
It wont accept AC coupled solar systems so all you need to do is plug the units into the wall to charge or if you have the SHP2, then charge from grid. Any excess solar you make would be used to charge.
If you wanted to add more solar, you would direct wire to the Ultra and not use any inverters. Hope that helps
Very slick! It really seems to simplify things for the average person. Just plug it in and go... Thanks for sharing!
It is SLICK!! 100% plug in and go. Sure there are some setup stuff but thats the fun part lol!!🤘
@@AveRage_Joe Now I have to try and get them to send me one! 😁
Maybe I can put in a good word for ya. Im headed to CES and will be stopping in at the EcoFlow Booth!💥
@@AveRage_Joe that would be great! Have fun at CES! I’ll have to go one of these years…
How long will that 4 ton ac run for on battery?
I would like to see a set up like this that could be topped off with a standard gas/propane generator during use. This would be handy to run the generator during the day to charge for a few hours then use the battery over night. We need one with the 30 amp generator inlet for charging, lol. That's true back up power. During a hurricane and stormy weather your not going to have much any solar or grid power. Will the smart panel allow charging from a generator and provide power to the home at the same time?
Good question. I was wondering the same thing. I’m thinking it won’t do it at the same time. I bet it’s one or the other
I could make this happen with my old military 240v 5kw diesel generator. All Id need to do is run some wire and install the breaker at the top of the panel. Once on gen power it should power the panel as the grid would and also charge.
You would need a 240v gen to do this if I didnt mention that.
I will also mention the gen is in my driveway at the moment. Waiting for some snow to melt so I can move it to the back yard and closer to the panel.😄
Only way to charge from a regular 120v gen would be like plugging the ultra into a wall and up to 1800w charging. I dont think the panel would be powered at this time but can check to make sure.
Thanks! This is awesome info! Question if you know: can you install double 110v breakers (2 in single size) to maximize space in the panel, and configure them in the app?
Thanks for watching. I was just mentioning this to @Barc7580 in a comment above(or below). The slot is smart so the 2 in 1 would turn on/off both. It would also show the current/watts for the 2 as well.
It may be to much current for the relay that energizes the breaker
Do you have a plan in case the SHP2 fails electronically? Is there a way to bypass the smarts and make it "dumb" again without having to swap the entire subpanel out?
If the electronics fail, it should work as a dumb panel. When I first connected it up it was basically a dumb panel and it supplied power to the Buss.
@average_joe thanks, I really want to get this panel, but I need a guarantee that I’m not left without any of my critical circuits in case of any failure.
Great video thanks from Canada. 👌
Thanks for watching!💥🤘
Curious on the code requirement for DC PV Cables to be in metal conduit. Maybe a dumb question but how do you connect to the High V PV input and maintain the metal conduit code requirement?
Right.....By code any DC solar entering a structure needs to be in a metal raceway. If you needed it to be up to code for an inspection, You could use the liquid tight flexable metal clad or even regular metal conduit to a metal box and attach the box to the inverter or something similar. If your not getting the ultra inspected, I would just run metal conduit down the wall to a box with MC4 connections, then short cables to the ultra.
Brother Joe your gloves are they protected for electric?
Joe do you have smart home panels.
How did u learn all of this information
Nah gloves are not electrical gloves. I just wear them for Everything. I only have the SHP2 at this time. I am interested in electrical work and I just cant seem to pay someone else to do work for me if I am fully capable. Some information you learn or pickup over time.🤘
@AveRage_Joe, SO based on your Vids and Suggestions i bit the bullet on the Ultras and the SHP2... I have a question about the SHP2 and within the App itself. Since the SHP2 has the ability for 2 single pole breakers, if i have 2x20amp would i need to tell the SHP2 in the App that this is a 40amp Circuit, and 2x15 would be 30amp... etc.. Cant seem to get the correct answer or find that anywhere. Also assuming there is no way to have that separated in the APP to tell it what each breaker is, only the circuit so would have to do a Fridge/Office type naming convention...
Thanks, seriously enjoy all your vids.
Awesome! Yeah in the app if you have singles then set them up as single 120v 20a since they are singles. Same for the 15a. 2 seperate circuits. If you put in a double pole 20a, then set it up as a 240v 20a, not a 40. Does that help or answer your question.
I have a 7000w inverter generator , will the TT30 outlet support that? If not what’s the max please
Great Job Joe, Since the HP2 has only 12 addressable circuits, it limits the number of 240 Volt options. Would it be possible to create a separate 240 switch with multiple 240 circuits (e.g. Dryer, AC, Oven etc.) that could turned on separately? Maybe connected via the 240 outlet to a transfer switch. That way in a power out situation they could be separately powered by the battery. The other question would be could the HP2 also work if the 240 Volt plug is connected simultaneously to the transfer switch (Protrans et. al.)?
Any Thoughts?
Yeah thats an option. Id run a sub panel off the SHP2 then you could run that panel with the other items and at least monitor and turn on/off the panel when needed. For the protran, yeah you can use that at any time weather grid is there or not.
@@AveRage_Joe Thanks
Does the connector cable come with the panel or the battery and inverter
The Longer connector cable(inverter to panel) comes with the panel. In the video I might have said it comes with the inverter but I misspoke.
Does it do AC support? Using grid and Solar powered Ecoflow equip?
It does not send power back to grid. It does not do AC coupling. Yeah you can charge from solar and grid and you can also power your loads with grid, solar and battery. Or did I misunderstand your question?
Does this smart panel allow you to grid tie (sell power back to the electrical company).
No
Why would someone stack vs go horizontal?
Imagine a high rise building built horizontal instead of straight up. Space is key and weights 120lbs. Easier to pick something up that’s 2-4ft off the ground instead of the floor.
Love your video, so what happen if two different sources are powering at the same time?
Thank You! If 2 different sources are connected and they dont talk...💥💥💥💥🫠😄
My home has two electrical panels which are not near each other. So, does that mean I need to have two EcoFlow smart panels and two sets of inverter/batteries - one for each electrical panel? Thank you.
Nope, all that is needed is a main feed from the main or sub panel and then run the circuits you want powered offgrid, TOU or as a backup.
Is it possable to just run a gas generator, 240v to the DPU for charging on cloudy days. Then run a 240v out from the DPU to a small breaker box for distributing small loads for off grid living? This is just for a single DPU unit. And if so , how?
Excellent video.
The price point concerns me for what it can actually do when a power outage occurs.
Some questions I have though is:
1. If 7200W is all it can handle, why are they claiming this to be a whole home backup solution? If I have a two story home, wouldn’t I need a traditional standby generator like Generac that can handle 26kW to maintain power for the whole house during a power outage/storm?
2. What’s the benefit of adding a second battery as part of the DPU? Will it still only handle 7200W but just stay on for a longer period of time (than a single battery)?
3. If I wanted to power entire downstairs of a two story house (including furnace, AC), how many of these DPU would I need to buy?
Noise, taking up yard space and maintenance costs with traditional Generac generators are cons for sure but would this DPU really be better investment long term? DPU seems more expensive and handles less power requirements in a house.
Appreciate your thoughts/feedback on these questions.
1, 2, or 3 story doesn't matter. Your electrical load is what matters. You're electrical panel is most definitely NOT divided by floors. I have a single story house with a main panel on one end and a subpanel on another.
7200 watts would power almost anything in a traditional house. Add 2 more inverters and your at 21.6kw. Just a bit lower than the 26kw generac.
It's marketed as whole home backup because it is. Back up being the keyword here. You should only be using essential loads during a blackout.
The generac will no doubt power the whole house at once but at 15k-20k for install, it's about the cost of 3 DPU's with an SHP2 professionally I stalled. That's 21.6kw of inverter power, but also 18kw of battery power. Plus smart functionality to turn on/off individual circuits.
Adding solar, while an additional cost, would allow you to lower your dependence on the grid. Which in turn lowers your light bill, which put money back in your pocket. The generac will never do that.
Adding batteries doesn't change the inverter. It's the equivalent of putting a bigger gas tank on your car. It won't change its power output but it will run longer. Add solar and you have a day to night source for filling your "tank".
@@JohnSmith-wt3mwI’ll rephrase for our house situation… there’s a panel in the garage which has lighting for rooms, furnaces, refrigerator, microwave, etc and then another panel outside of the house for larger loads like air conditioners, oven, and cooktop. Would the smart home panel plus DPU be able to connect to circuits that are on the panel on the outside of the house for the larger load appliances or would it only be able to connect to the panel in the garage for the lower load items?
Also in total this can only provide 7200W, correct? Thanks in advance.
@@eyewatchsports5549 You seem to have large loads on both panels. I'm assuming the one that is outside is your main 200amp panel? And the garage is a 100amp subpanel? The short and dirty is yes, and SHP2 can be connected to either 1 or both. You can even connect just a DPU to either 1 or both. Although it would lose the backup functionality and individual circuit control, it would be a much simpler install. Cheaper too. It all really depends on what you wanna back up and how much money you wanna throw at it.
7200 watts is correct. Even with 5 batteries under it. But add a 2nd or 3rd DPU to the SHP2, and that goes up to 14.4k-21.6kw. Equivalent to some large whole home NG/propane generators.
That being said, a single DPU is not gonna last you very long if the power goes out. Especially If your goal is to run all those heavy loads, unless you have means to charge the batteries. Solar, wind, a gas generator, etc..
Are you looking to back up every circuit in your whole house? Or just the essentials to make it through an outage? Do you have any solar? Or means other than the grid to charge them?
You also need to remember is with this system, you use it everyday which can save you money everyday. Plus you will use it in an emergency. The big generator you would use only at random events/emergency. Also a generator that size is pretty big to be honest. Generators should be ran at 80% load. I am not saying generators are bad and shouldnt be used but do you need or use that much power during those times. I have a 5kw and can get by just fine.
You can install this panel near either panel and can add any circuit you want to take off grid or use in an emergency.
@@JohnSmith-wt3mw Thanks for responding, John. I live in an area that experiences extreme heat in the summer which have led to occasional rolling blackouts and also the last few years have had to deal with multiple power outages in January/February with below freezing temperatures due to power grid issues (pretty sure you can guess where this is in the US). It seems like these grid issues aren’t going away with these swings in temperatures yearly and lot of folks here are opting to go the route of spending big on gas generators like the Generac 26kW to not have to worry about grid issues and keep everything running at their home.
I personally can’t see myself paying that amount for a Generac 26 kW generator (that sits in my yard and makes noise) for emergency usage only so that’s why I was intrigued when I watched this video about this DPU and SHP2. I also like the idea of being able to occasionally power some circuits in my house at peak times from the DPU rather than paying the energy company. I also like that this isn’t noisy.
I don’t have solar, wind or any kind of generator currently. The only way I would charge this would be through the grid (could possibly look at connecting solar to this but that’s more money I would have to spend down the road).
The panel I have outside of the house is the main panel (I assume it’s 200A) since it has the switch for main on it and has larger loads like two air conditioners, oven and cooktop. The panel in the garage is for everything else (I assume it’s 100A).
I think my goal would be to keep power on everything downstairs (and not worry about upstairs) in the event of a power outage for as long as possible. So that would mean one air conditioner from outside main panel, oven from outside main panel, cooktop from outside main panel, furnace for downstairs in garage panel, one water heater, kitchen, and other rooms downstairs from garage panel.
How many DPU plus SHP2 would I need to accomplish that and where would they physically need to be installed at the house?
And could I even install/connect/setup a DPU plus SHP2 outside next to the main panel (because they’re not rainproof/weatherproof are they)?
Thanks in advance for taking the time to answer my questions and explain this. I really am genuinely interested but want to know what the setup, cost and how long this backup power solution could power on the downstairs portion of the house for. Appreciate your help/feedback.
is 1 400w solar panel good?
I would get a few more then 1!
I was trying to figure out how the wiring was laid out between the Eco-flow and the other two breaker panels. Evidently it's *boom* proof.
Not much different than any other panel install with a subpanel and transfer switch...
@@JohnSmith-wt3mw that's not a helpful answer, John.
@thedabbler2753 Sure it is. It's not rocket science.
It looks like the middle panel is his main. Probably 200amp service. Probably put two 100amp 240v breakers in there. One wired to the subpanel on the right and one wired to the SHP2 on the left. 4 wires each breaker. Red-hot, black-hot, white-neutral, and green-ground. Neutrals and grounds seperated in each sub panel.
Pretty simple stuff actually.
For mine I have the center as my main. The right subpanel is wired from the main. The SHP2 is wired from the subpanel. Main reason I did it this way atm is I could power all 3 panels from the 50a generator inlet plug. I also have other systems so having it wired this way allows me to have multiple layers of backup options. Also cause I test out systems😄
What is the max amps if you use three with the home smart panel 2? Can I charge my EV at 48 amps and still run my AC?
Smart Home Panel 2 is rated 100 amp. So if running simultaneously you probably could if your AC doesn't exceed 50A but if other household functions are wired to breakers in the SHP2 you're going to have a problem. That's my issue with the SHP2... not enough capacity. Am hoping they release ASAP a 200A version with more breaker slots and net metering capability too.
@@bobedsall5625 My house isn't that big and is only a 2 ton unit and new so it doesn't draw a ton of watts. Actually my house is on a 100 amp box and I have no issues charging my car and the AC running and doing whatever I want in my house. Thank you for the response
Amazing video, man, thanks! Just a question: can I use the battery as my primary source and the grid as a backup? (and say, keep using the grid until the battery is fully charged)
Thanks! Yeah you can do that for sure. Just put it in self-powered mode which takes you off grid. It will switch back to grid when you reach the min %SOC you have set.
how can I connect 10 solar panels in parallel to an Ecoflow Delta pro Ultra?
I just have 1 question that ecoflow didn’t. I’m interested in purchasing this as emergency back up only. One of the three appliances has a power usage of 724kwh a year. I’m wanting to know how long will the one battery last just powering the one refrigerator
My fridge shows in the app that it draws an average of 1.7kWh in 24hrs. Some days a little more and some days a little less. Out of a 6000wh battery, that equals 3.5 days but well say its just 3 days.
Great video.
I keep missing if this can function like a true grid tied battery bank. Can this output to the main panel based on power usage? For example cover all power usage at night if it is below the inverter output rate and the battery capacity?
Nope, this unit cannot backfeed the main panel. It supplies output power to the load that you connect only. The smart panel is just a fancy subpanel that has transfer switches in it that "turn on" if the power goes out to continue powering the load OR if you give it a "command" or "task". Hope that helps clear up any confusion.
@@AveRage_Joe so it can sectionalize itself from the main panel to supply only the critical loads from the battery? I guess maybe it can be programmed to switch to running on battery on its panel at a certain time of day when solar stops generating enough.
Yes, it has a transfer switch inside to power the panel from battery if grid goes down OR if you select off grid mode. You can also select certain breakers(loads) to go on battery whenever you want and vice versa.
@@AveRage_Joe totally interested to see what settings the app has to control this. Essentially the main loads of your house can be split to run off the battery at night when you're not generating with solar and swap back when battery charge state is low. And the loads not on the smart panel would remain fed from the grid.
Yeah you can do that😄🤘
I am getting a condo and I work from home. If I lost power during work hours, I would need to power my refrigerator and office (overhead light, computer, router, and monitor). Everything else I could get by without. Would this type of setup be overkill or should I just get a Delta Pro 3 and wheel it out when I lose power? I should also mention that I work 9 hours a day, I could need it to be on battery for all that time.
I just did a vid on the D3 (so its fresh in my mind) and my house load was avg 800w. If I draw 800w from it, I would get about 4-1/2hrs run time which included my big pc. You would need to figure out your load but guessing it would be similar. Either system would be great. I would get at least 1 expansion battery if you get the D3.
Hi! Might sound like a stupid question... but if it is a sub-panel, how does it know the whole house consumption?
Thanks!
It only knows the consumption of the circuits installed on it. Not the entire house unless the entire house is crammed into it.
Are those electrician gloves you're wearing and if so, which brand?
They are not but I wear them for electrical stuff and everything else. They are activwear from amazon or menards. I did find a cheaper pair from lowes that are klien brand and look and feel the same.
@@AveRage_Joe Thanks!
Does it care whats plugged into it , Ir the Delta Pro or an Anker F3800? or does it only work with the Ecoflow products
I think you could use any 240v device as long as you use either the generator hub or generator adapter cable to power loads. Not sure on charging yet.
I am looking at this setup, with 2 Batteries (12kw storage). hooking a 2500W array up to it, and using it as my "Shore" power on my RV to connect through the 30A 240V plug. My question, could this be used to power my whole RV, and would i be able to recharge this battery with a gas Generator should solar be lacking?
Yes you could power your entire RV as long as the MAX rated power is 7200w or surge to 10kw. As for gen charging. If it is 120v, then you would use the supplied AC cable and plug it into the generator just like a wall outlet. Charge up to 1800w. If its a 240v gen, then I believe all that is needed is the generator adapter cable that plugs into the side of the inverter(input/output port). I dont think you need the 50a generator hub but can make sure if you have a 240v gen. Let me know
Very good video, excellent information and demonstration, panel is killer! What solar panels do you recommend and what is the manufacturer for the panel ground mount brackets?
@AveRage_Joe, Question, if i have a generator and i want to Charge this and not go directly to an inlet, can i plug a Genie Directly into the unit and charge while the home is on Bat Backup? If so am i limited to the just the 110 AC input for charging? Thanks
I just replied in the other video😀. The ecoflow allows generator charging with the adapter. Or through the regular wall charge port.
Would I need a permit for this to be installed? Also, would the system then be able to support net metering?
If you hire an electrician, they usually take care of permits. There is no backfeeding the grid with this system BUT you can do time of use for the high electric rate or just keep those breakers off grid if you have enough solar.
@@AveRage_Joe thanks for the info!
@@AveRage_Joe Another question for you.... What if the main breaker panel is outside? Would they be able to install the lower half of smart home panel(Where delta pro ultra plugs into panel)inside the garage(wall opposing the main breaker panel)?
@@jbrockskill You bet! The lower box is designed for that and can be removed and reinstalled anywhere! With longer wire of course that the electrician would install.
@@AveRage_Joe Thanks for the Info!
Could you DC couple this with your diy LFP battery bank? Best of both worlds?
That would be cool if we could but no. The batteries inside are higher voltage and I am not sure on the battery cable. I think it needs the data lines in order to read if connected.
Could you not use the low power pv port to input your diy LPF battery bank, it definitely falls within the range of the low power pv port. I do this with the Delta pros.
Yeah you could extend the runtime this way for sure. If thats what Ben was asking, I 100% misunderstood lol. I was thinkin he ment more of just adding a diy battery🤦♂️😆
@@AveRage_Joe no worries, yeah extend the run time is what I was thinking.
Is there a way to get the Smart Home Panel 2 to power everything in the house?
The way im understanding this is that you would only be able to power the 12 circuits actually on that panel from the Delta Pro Ultra and then if the grid was down the other circuits would be unpowered, correct?
I think you are correct on this
Are you able to sell electricity back to the utility company with this battery/panel during peak time?
No, it is not capable to send power to grid however the idea is you take yourself off grid during those times or alltogether.
Thank you for this! How would I find a list of local electricians who are familiar with Eco Flow?
Its more of getting a hold of a local electrician and having them install a sub panel. Thats roughly it. It should be a regular day for them.