Having my first set Favero for 7 years and never had any issues or dropped data. They survived even a pretty hard crash at 25mph and battery life is still top notch. Of course no issues with set 2 or 3 and set 4 about to be ordered for my current build project.
Bought the Favero Assioma duos last year and they have been great. Connected to Garmin head unit first time. Get all the cycling dynamics too. I only need to charge them once a month. Half the price if garmin pedals and these Look ones too
I use the Assioma DUO-Shi with Ultegra bodies. They must be coming up to 3 years old and I'm barely having to charge my pedals once a month. Some months I'm only charging them because the DI2, lights, etc are all being put on charge at the same time. I'm doing plenty of mileage/hours in the summer months without issue or concern so not sure where your battery life concern comes from....
I have got the Garmin pedals and must say that they have never given me any problems whatsoever. I do like the rechargeable batteries on the Look pedals though as it takes the whole battery replacement issue out of the equation. That said I have a little wooden box with spare batteries for car keys, motorbike keys, chest strap HRM, shifters, and of course the power meter pedals. The advantage of sticking with Garmin power meter pedals (in my case anyway) is that they of course are fully integrated into the Garmin platform so you get all the very extensive data but also firmware updates, and battery warnings right there on your head unit, watch, phone app, or computer screen, and no need to download any additional apps, and open additional accounts. I also like that Garmin offers conversion kits so you can swap between e.g. SPD, SPD-SL, or Look Keo pedals for use with the same power meter spindles (maybe Look offers that too?).
You're lucky. I've filed dozens of warranty claims for Garmin pedals. I'm looking forward to getting tye SPD assiomas since my personal Garmin pedals are extremely problematic too but I'm done sending them back
On Garmin head units and wristwatches you get low-battery alarms for everything that’s connected, even if it’s not from Garmin. Same for Connect, their website, which displays all sensors and their last battery status.
@@EditioCastigata That is convenient. I got the impression from the video that a lot of features were not available on the Garmin head unit but it is good to know that the low battery is covered.
Owning Favero and after watching this. It looks like Look has exactly same function in the app as Favero. Favero has little bit less battery life but for me still good 50h. In Favero you can replace bearings plus after quick check Favero is like €300 cheaper. Then for me Favero it is. Look has to be test for next 1 year and the we see if it is solid construction 😎 but €999 for Look to expensive! Good video👍🏻
I have Assioma DUO and, to be honest, I can't see a reason to spend an additional £450 on these. Spare parts for the Assioma range is really good, and the customer service is excellent. I had an issue with calibration and, after opening a support case, the pedals upload data to Assioma which allowed them to diagnose a problem with the strain gauge in the right pedal. This was confirmed by 'uncoupling' the right pedal in the App (to turn them into UNO), where they calibrated straight away. Despite being three years out of warranty, they gave me a good discount on a replacement spindle too.
I've had Garmin pedals for four years. Never had my battery cover come off. Batteries are double stacked LR44 which are available at just about any shop. Hype up your new pedals, but leave out bogus complaints. Not a good look.
Yes and my critique remains the same. Look pedals are nice, don't get me wrong. I use them on my road bike. I feel your criticisms of Garmin and Assiona detracted from the quality of your product overview since they are largely not the experience of most people who use those very popular power meter pedals. One thing I didn't see you note was that Look doesn't provide cycling dynamics metrics like Garmin and Assiona do, so they are in at least one way, less feature rich than the others.
@@mg6263 No cycling dynamics was one of the first things mentioned. I’ve had Garmin pedals since they came out and had loads of problems with them initially, but they work flawlessly these days. As for feature richness, I don’t think I’ve ever looked at the cycling dynamics stuff. It’s basically useless. However, having to install the Look pedals with a torque wrench would be my biggest concern.
I’m glad to see something that actually looks fit for purpose. I had two pairs of power tap pedals - neither lasted a year and I’m a long way from doing elite - or even semi elite mileage. So the durability of these on Lake District roads will be interesting. I also have a broad foot and use spacing washers to keep my right foot from rubbing on the crank. Would this affect performance?
I feel Assioma makes a better choice in terms of serviceability/maintenance. Any movable parts ie bearings will need to be replaced after long term use, am glad Favero provide such options w/o burning a hoile in pocket. 6yrs of usage, it never fails on me except worn bearings that ive just replaced.
I am not a user of a powermeter yet but always thought pedals is the way to go and have considered the MAVIC ones being that I am old school from that generation when the market had only a few brands ! Now that these are out, will have to update my wishlist but will wait until the big boys start discounting them a bit.
It is pretty good. I have 2 sets for 2 bikes. Be aware though, if you leave your Assioma's without use or charging for extended months, it will degrade battery performance. During the pandemic, I left a bike in another country with the Assioma's for 2 years unused. When I came back the pedals would only allow about 25 hrs of use. Favero confirmed this issue and the info supplied with the pedals also notes to charge them at least every 3-4 months if not in use.
I enjoy looking at the power output on the turbo, but on the road? Can anyone explain to me what I get from that? The road generally determines what power is required. What am I missing?
I have just started serious training again to prepare for a season of gravel racing/events after a 14 year break from competitive cycling. I have taken the decision to start using a power meter for the first time after using HR for years. All my training is outside on the road and I find using a power meter a revelation. No more chasing your HR to get back into your training zones. The power meter allows me to get the most from my training. I especially like how it helps you use feel and sensation to ride with the training zone for the session you are riding. @@Mapdec
@@Mapdec Google Look Keo creak / squeak. The Internet is full of complaints. I have never rated Look bearings either - always seem to develop play. Shimano pedals are silent, but their cleats wear quickly 🤷♂️
It's cool to see some new blood in the PM pedal market, but I do see one minor concern with them (which obviously may only affect a handful of people). The placement of the charge port will automatically make this a NO GO for anyone that uses pedal extenders... unless of course those folks want to mess around with removing the pedal(s) whenever they need a change. I could see this becoming a bit of an annoyance.
The title lightest powermeter pedals. Hmm, that theyre fit for purpose is surely the primary function. Weight is not that important even though its on a revolving component ie cranks. Most of my cycing mates could easily lose 5 kg bodyfat and im at the top of the list. A decent product at an expensive price point. Good descriptive video as always.
I have had mine for over 4 years and do 10-15k a year and the battery is still great. I have changed the bearings yearly as it’s a simple and cheap job but that’s it. Assiomas are the goat
@@tomaxxxx536 nice. You are doing well. We only see the broken ones I guess, but 18 months is usual for a drop in battery life. Sometime charging every ride.
@@8rk The pod is really the thing many ppl make a fuss about and not being able to have normal q-factor on shimano because of it. Which has basically been fixed with the pro-mx
Yes. I saw. We have some MTB ones on long term test. I’ll let you know how they go in a few months. This is just a first look feature thing really. Hopefully just a neutral review of features.
@@Mapdec But they are more of a midcleat position so depends on what use. Midcleat are probably not the best when you need to have many fast surges. Midcleat more for steady efforts.
Unfortunately I really can’t see these lasting for long. Not personally a massive fan of power meter pedals anyways simple due to how specific everything has to be in order for them to report properly, not being in the exact torque range is enough to throw off the strain gauge. In terms of the Look pedals, the fact everyone’s having accuracy issues is a major issue for me, especially if you compare it to the reliability and accuracy of spindle based power meters. And I’m sorry the fact that these pedals are falling apart in customers hands in just unacceptable for a power meter at such a premium price. I know you guys work closely with Look but I think this first look was doing them quite a few favours
I’m with you. For ease and reliability I still thank spindle based are best, and quarq probably the best of the sensibly priced options. One thing for sure though is that this is still not quite a mature market. Still lots of faults and reliability issues across all brands.
Having my first set Favero for 7 years and never had any issues or dropped data. They survived even a pretty hard crash at 25mph and battery life is still top notch. Of course no issues with set 2 or 3 and set 4 about to be ordered for my current build project.
just wanna say big thumbs up for great improvments to the microphone quality over time! reaching almost broadcast quality levels!
Much appreciated! Audio is really hard.
Bought the Favero Assioma duos last year and they have been great. Connected to Garmin head unit first time. Get all the cycling dynamics too. I only need to charge them once a month. Half the price if garmin pedals and these Look ones too
I use the Assioma DUO-Shi with Ultegra bodies. They must be coming up to 3 years old and I'm barely having to charge my pedals once a month. Some months I'm only charging them because the DI2, lights, etc are all being put on charge at the same time. I'm doing plenty of mileage/hours in the summer months without issue or concern so not sure where your battery life concern comes from....
I have got the Garmin pedals and must say that they have never given me any problems whatsoever. I do like the rechargeable batteries on the Look pedals though as it takes the whole battery replacement issue out of the equation. That said I have a little wooden box with spare batteries for car keys, motorbike keys, chest strap HRM, shifters, and of course the power meter pedals. The advantage of sticking with Garmin power meter pedals (in my case anyway) is that they of course are fully integrated into the Garmin platform so you get all the very extensive data but also firmware updates, and battery warnings right there on your head unit, watch, phone app, or computer screen, and no need to download any additional apps, and open additional accounts. I also like that Garmin offers conversion kits so you can swap between e.g. SPD, SPD-SL, or Look Keo pedals for use with the same power meter spindles (maybe Look offers that too?).
You're lucky. I've filed dozens of warranty claims for Garmin pedals. I'm looking forward to getting tye SPD assiomas since my personal Garmin pedals are extremely problematic too but I'm done sending them back
On Garmin head units and wristwatches you get low-battery alarms for everything that’s connected, even if it’s not from Garmin. Same for Connect, their website, which displays all sensors and their last battery status.
@@EditioCastigata That is convenient. I got the impression from the video that a lot of features were not available on the Garmin head unit but it is good to know that the low battery is covered.
Owning Favero and after watching this. It looks like Look has exactly same function in the app as Favero. Favero has little bit less battery life but for me still good 50h. In Favero you can replace bearings plus after quick check Favero is like €300 cheaper. Then for me Favero it is. Look has to be test for next 1 year and the we see if it is solid construction 😎 but €999 for Look to expensive! Good video👍🏻
That makes me appreciate the simplicity of my Quarq power meter. Slap a new CR2032 once or twice a year and all good.
I have Assioma DUO and, to be honest, I can't see a reason to spend an additional £450 on these. Spare parts for the Assioma range is really good, and the customer service is excellent. I had an issue with calibration and, after opening a support case, the pedals upload data to Assioma which allowed them to diagnose a problem with the strain gauge in the right pedal. This was confirmed by 'uncoupling' the right pedal in the App (to turn them into UNO), where they calibrated straight away. Despite being three years out of warranty, they gave me a good discount on a replacement spindle too.
7:50 Oy! Torque wrench vor insert tools is where it’s at.
I've had Garmin pedals for four years. Never had my battery cover come off. Batteries are double stacked LR44 which are available at just about any shop.
Hype up your new pedals, but leave out bogus complaints. Not a good look.
Did you watch the rest of the video?
Yes and my critique remains the same.
Look pedals are nice, don't get me wrong. I use them on my road bike. I feel your criticisms of Garmin and Assiona detracted from the quality of your product overview since they are largely not the experience of most people who use those very popular power meter pedals. One thing I didn't see you note was that Look doesn't provide cycling dynamics metrics like Garmin and Assiona do, so they are in at least one way, less feature rich than the others.
@@mg6263 No cycling dynamics was one of the first things mentioned. I’ve had Garmin pedals since they came out and had loads of problems with them initially, but they work flawlessly these days. As for feature richness, I don’t think I’ve ever looked at the cycling dynamics stuff. It’s basically useless. However, having to install the Look pedals with a torque wrench would be my biggest concern.
@@mg6263 lol. You defo don’t watch the vid then. 😂
I’m glad to see something that actually looks fit for purpose. I had two pairs of power tap pedals - neither lasted a year and I’m a long way from doing elite - or even semi elite mileage. So the durability of these on Lake District roads will be interesting. I also have a broad foot and use spacing washers to keep my right foot from rubbing on the crank. Would this affect performance?
I feel Assioma makes a better choice in terms of serviceability/maintenance. Any movable parts ie bearings will need to be replaced after long term use, am glad Favero provide such options w/o burning a hoile in pocket. 6yrs of usage, it never fails on me except worn bearings that ive just replaced.
I am not a user of a powermeter yet but always thought pedals is the way to go and have considered the MAVIC ones being that I am old school from that generation when the market had only a few brands ! Now that these are out, will have to update my wishlist but will wait until the big boys start discounting them a bit.
I’m sure it won’t be long. They are probably £120 too expensive
@@Mapdec Where did the figure of £120 come from ? I have already seen them at £899 by the way nut would like to see them drop to around £750
@@aljaliah6868 just me thinking where they compare against Garmin, Favero, Wahoo,
“favero battery life isn’t great” 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Lol it literally is great
It is pretty good. I have 2 sets for 2 bikes. Be aware though, if you leave your Assioma's without use or charging for extended months, it will degrade battery performance. During the pandemic, I left a bike in another country with the Assioma's for 2 years unused. When I came back the pedals would only allow about 25 hrs of use. Favero confirmed this issue and the info supplied with the pedals also notes to charge them at least every 3-4 months if not in use.
He obviously knows nothing of power meters...he only guessed what the offset is😂
This next level shilling and smells like dishonesty, it’s a recurring pattern on this channel.
I enjoy looking at the power output on the turbo, but on the road? Can anyone explain to me what I get from that? The road generally determines what power is required. What am I missing?
Training zones, pacing, nutrition thing.
I have just started serious training again to prepare for a season of gravel racing/events after a 14 year break from competitive cycling. I have taken the decision to start using a power meter for the first time after using HR for years. All my training is outside on the road and I find using a power meter a revelation. No more chasing your HR to get back into your training zones. The power meter allows me to get the most from my training. I especially like how it helps you use feel and sensation to ride with the training zone for the session you are riding. @@Mapdec
Do Look Keo pedals/cleats still creak like mad? I had to ditch them for SPD-SL pedals due to the incessant noise.
I can’t say I have come across this. What do think was causing the movement?
@@Mapdec Google Look Keo creak / squeak. The Internet is full of complaints. I have never rated Look bearings either - always seem to develop play. Shimano pedals are silent, but their cleats wear quickly 🤷♂️
It's cool to see some new blood in the PM pedal market, but I do see one minor concern with them (which obviously may only affect a handful of people). The placement of the charge port will automatically make this a NO GO for anyone that uses pedal extenders... unless of course those folks want to mess around with removing the pedal(s) whenever they need a change. I could see this becoming a bit of an annoyance.
Good point.
The title lightest powermeter pedals. Hmm, that theyre fit for purpose is surely the primary function. Weight is not that important even though its on a revolving component ie cranks. Most of my cycing mates could easily lose 5 kg bodyfat and im at the top of the list. A decent product at an expensive price point. Good descriptive video as always.
Thanks. Help me out here. What would you have titled the video?
What price are the bearings for them? User replaceable? Or complete new spindles from Look?
They are just regular iso bearings pressed in the pedal body. As you saw, the spindle has no moving parts.
definitely off the mark assisoma, battery life is crazy good, you can go probably 2 months depending on riding hrs
How long have you had them?
I have had mine for over 4 years and do 10-15k a year and the battery is still great. I have changed the bearings yearly as it’s a simple and cheap job but that’s it. Assiomas are the goat
@Mapdec believe about 4 years not, I don't think I would ever change brands they work flawlessly
@@tomaxxxx536 nice. You are doing well. We only see the broken ones I guess, but 18 months is usual for a drop in battery life. Sometime charging every ride.
@lohkalcustoms
15K a year for 4 years and no drop in battery life? I’ll call complete BS on that! 😀😀😀
You have to take the pedals off the bike to charge them??
No. Its easy to charge on the bike.
Does connect with Wahoo Roam v2?
Yes. I have one.
Unless you race or into date do we need them and the price
Go back to school
The price is ridiculous, can't wait for the favero update to make them obsolete
favero already makes these obsolete
LOL
@@8rk The pod is really the thing many ppl make a fuss about and not being able to have normal q-factor on shimano because of it. Which has basically been fixed with the pro-mx
Can't see them shifting many of these. Too expensive relative to their competition.
DC Rainmaker’s pedals went tits up after riding his through water…just sayin
Yes. I saw. We have some MTB ones on long term test. I’ll let you know how they go in a few months. This is just a first look feature thing really. Hopefully just a neutral review of features.
Maybe yout chain was dirty? :)
Yeah. Maybe.
They are however not the lightest. Favero assioma duo Shi with patrocleat bodies will have a overall lower system weight.
Oh. 😮
@@Mapdec But they are more of a midcleat position so depends on what use. Midcleat are probably not the best when you need to have many fast surges. Midcleat more for steady efforts.
Unfortunately I really can’t see these lasting for long. Not personally a massive fan of power meter pedals anyways simple due to how specific everything has to be in order for them to report properly, not being in the exact torque range is enough to throw off the strain gauge. In terms of the Look pedals, the fact everyone’s having accuracy issues is a major issue for me, especially if you compare it to the reliability and accuracy of spindle based power meters. And I’m sorry the fact that these pedals are falling apart in customers hands in just unacceptable for a power meter at such a premium price. I know you guys work closely with Look but I think this first look was doing them quite a few favours
Garmin makes the only pedals that are inconsistent. Assioma, Wahoo and SRM are outstanding and you just install and ride them
I’m with you. For ease and reliability I still thank spindle based are best, and quarq probably the best of the sensibly priced options. One thing for sure though is that this is still not quite a mature market. Still lots of faults and reliability issues across all brands.
Looks like they learnt from the Exakt… dual sided pm but one cable and an absolute pig to set up. Product looks good otherwise.
Lol Assiomas have 50hours which is not very good? And these have 60 which is “really impressive”? Wait.. what?